Hi everyone, i am new to android devices and to this forum as well. My cousin sent me a ROGERS DREAM from canada, i am using it in PAKISTAN, its got android 1.6
i want to be able to use a diffrent 3rd party rom's, i went through a lot of forums and blogs and found out there are diffrent methods to root thr rogers dream and tmobile G1!!
Which one should i follow ?!!
Waiting for your quick reply... Thanks
It will work if the other network is GSM but you will get EDGE unless it uses the same 3G frequencies as the Rogers Dream which ATT does.
Ace42 said:
It will work if the other network is GSM but you will get EDGE unless it uses the same 3G frequencies as the Rogers Dream which ATT does.
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Thnx for the reply ace42,
3G is not the issue, as 3G service is not yet available in pakistan!!
Yeah, it does feel like living in stone age!!
My question is still un-answered, which method of rooting should i use?? The tmobile g1 method or rogers dream method???
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Good day to you all,
I would like to know if there's any way at all that a T-Mobile G1 can access the Rogers 3G network. Radio update, etc?
I have posted this question in the Dream and Dream Q&A section with no responses. I'm sure this isn't specifically a development question, but you guys might know the answer.
Thanks!
no it is a hardware not a software limitation sorry
Not what I wanted to hear, but it makes sense.
So on the Rogers network, I'll be stuck with the EDGE data?
cursordroid said:
Not what I wanted to hear, but it makes sense.
So on the Rogers network, I'll be stuck with the EDGE data?
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yep sorry you could always but a tmobile sim for 3g use if you need it badly
JJbdoggg said:
yep sorry you could always but a tmobile sim for 3g use if you need it badly
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The radio in the phone dictates the frequency, not the SIM right?
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The radio in the phone dictates the frequency, not the SIM right?
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yes but the normal g1 can not utilise these frequencies unless it falls between a specific range which the rogers 3g network does not. However the t-mobile ones do
correct - its a frequency thing, which is dictated by the radio hardware, not the sim or a software setting.
JJbdoggg said:
yes but the normal g1 can not utilise these frequencies unless it falls between a specific range which the rogers 3g network does not. However the t-mobile ones do
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So the T-Mobile G1 is able to use the Rogers 3G network, but only if it has a T-Mobile SIM?
Am I understanding this correctly?
cursordroid said:
So the T-Mobile G1 is able to use the Rogers 3G network, but only if it has a T-Mobile SIM?
Am I understanding this correctly?
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nope it is only able to use a t-mobile 3g network with a tmobile sim. I meant you should buy a t-mobile sim for use with the t-mobile network if you really needed it.
JJbdoggg said:
nope it is only able to use a t-mobile 3g network with a tmobile sim. I meant you should buy a t-mobile sim for use with the t-mobile network if you really needed it.
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Damn... My imagination got my hopes up...
Thanks for the info!
cursordroid said:
Damn... My imagination got my hopes up...
Thanks for the info!
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no problemo
i got a tmobile g1 , and im on gogers network , i get up to 2g , as far as i knew rogers doesn't supply full 3g yet
maek_it_happen said:
i got a tmobile g1 , and im on gogers network , i get up to 2g , as far as i knew rogers doesn't supply full 3g yet
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Rogers definitely supports full 3G, it's 3.5G (HSDPA) as a matter of fact.
The G1 runs on a different frequency and can't access the Rogers 3G, only EDGE data network.
The point of this thread was to see if the G1 radio was capable of using the Rogers frequencies... Guess not...
Doesnt rogers carry the dream? Why get a Tmobile G1 when the Rogers Dream is the same phone except it uses the correct frequencies for 3G?
Dharkaron said:
Doesnt rogers carry the dream? Why get a Tmobile G1 when the Rogers Dream is the same phone except it uses the correct frequencies for 3G?
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I bought a 'bricked' G1 on eBay for $40. I fixed it in a matter of minutes. I figured it was a hell of a deal, but I didn't think about the fact that I would be missing 3G here in Canada.
I already own the HTC Magic 32A (Rogers), this G1 is just to play around with.
No idea why anyone brought up SIM cards or whatever. That's utterly irrelevant, and only served to confuse people. Thanks.
The radio in the TMO G1 only supports UMTS Band I (2100) and Band IV (AWS). The Rogers G1 supports Band II (1900).
My recommendation is to resell that fixed G1, and find yourself a Rogers Dream.
You can convert your HTC Dream to 3G in Canada by replacing the antenna. Here's a link to a (probably) T-Mobile antenna as an example. But if you can find one for Canadian frequencies... Good luck!
Ive had the g1 before the dream came out , if I were to get a dream do I root the same way with the downgrade then flash new Rom , I m running hero Rom right now on my g1 .
maek_it_happen said:
Ive had the g1 before the dream came out , if I were to get a dream do I root the same way with the downgrade then flash new Rom , I m running hero Rom right now on my g1 .
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what are you talking about they are the same thing
JJbdoggg said:
what are you talking about they are the same thing
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i remember reading ppl having trouble rooting roger dreams , but maybe its cuz they didn't know ,,,, thanks for the heads up
hey everybody. if this question is in the wrong place, mods/admins please move to correct thread section.
i am i need of phones that will work on the Rogers hspa 3g network in canada. i right now have a tmobile hd2 running android 2.3 and i got my wife a tmobile mytouch 3g running android 2.2. but from the information i found we will not get the 3g band because the phones 3g frequencies are wrong. can anybody help me confirm that? we right now use them but they are only on the 2g band and our reception is pretty terrible right now. if that is the case can anybody tell me if at&t phones operate 3g on the right frequency for rogers? thanks allot.
im specifically wanting to know if the Samsung Captivate S will work on rogers 3g. thanks!(but if somebody can tell me if most at&t 3g phones will work on rogers that would be greatly appreciated. thanks!)
chk Nexus S
Check out Nexus S ...might be available soon in canada for rogers
yeah the nexus s looks nice, but i still need to know if at&t and rogers operate on the same 3g band. because the tmobile phones we have do not work on the rogers 3g.....
Hi all, im very new to XDA & have no knowledge of bandwidths. I just recently bought a HTC Sensation (not sure what model, but it was from a local guy). Had it unlocked so i can use it with my ATT plan. every thing was working fine except i had no data & couldnt send/recieve MMS. When first turned on, there was no APN settings on the phone, so i applied the settings stated in the thread APN settings for unlocked Sensation on ATT by mekajt7 on 09/05/11. Now i have data & MMS is working fine execpt my data is only 2G??
If there's anyone out there with more extensive knowledge regarding this topic, or how to get my phone to pick up 3G?? pleeeeeese leave a reply.
ive spent hours online reading about the bandwidths & ive been getting mixed results.... some said yes, it should work & most said no.
I'm in need of some answers
thanks for reading
the only way an sensation can pick up att 3g signals is if you buy one from canada made for their bell carrier. other then that all you can get is edge. if you want 3g or even better, 4g and be in the usa, you need tmobile
thanks for the reply kpholmes. yea, that's the same thing ive been getting from reading online for 4 hours. do you or anyone else reading know the model number for T-Mo's version vs. Bell's version???
i know it's 710a or 710e. but which is which??
DMX804 said:
thanks for the reply kpholmes. yea, that's the same thing ive been getting from reading online for 4 hours. do you or anyone else reading know the model number for T-Mo's version vs. Bell's version???
i know it's 710a or 710e. but which is which??
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The Z710a is the North American (NAM) version sold by Canadian carriers and it supports the 850/1900/2100 3G bands that AT&T uses.
The Z710e supports the European and T-Mobile 3G bands.
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The Z710a is the North American (NAM) version sold by Canadian carriers and it supports the 850/1900/2100 3G bands that AT&T uses.
The Z710e supports the European and T-Mobile 3G bands.
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so, T-Mo's is neither of these?? or is it the Z710e??
im just trying to get the model's correctly identified
thanks for the reply
T-mo is the same as european and asian version, it wont work with at&t 3G which is probably what you have. You need to get the canadian sensation from bell or virgin mobile model number z710a. If you look at settings>>about phone>>phone identity, the model number of your phone should be there. If it is z710e, then you are out of luck.
So the Canadian version can use 3G on AT&T? And 4G?
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So the Canadian version can use 3G on AT&T? And 4G?
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Yes the Canadian version can use AT&T 3G and HSPA+ network.
anyone here use a euro Sensation in the US? what carrier are you using and do you get 3G?
thank you in advance!
The US and EU are the same so you shouldn't have any issues and it will run at 4G.
And btw, Welcome to USA
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If it uses the same bands as the US version it should work for T-Mobile and Simple Mobile(prepaid mvno that uses t-mobiles tower).
Both gets 4G where its available.
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yup tmobile sells z710e and from your signature i can tell yours is z710e so there you have it!
Europe has GSM band. Don't think they use that in USA. But I heard att and T-Mobile should work though.
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I took my EU Sensation to Florida in Septemeber - bought a tmobile SIM and had it up and running within a few hours. The initial problem that I had was that my phone was registered with tmobile in the UK - so the tmobile apps didn't work in the US with the help of tech support they registered the phone with themselves and I was able to use the tmobile apps including the $1.34 for internet per day which you have to activate daily.
Of course, now that I'm back in the UK - my tmobile apps don't work here but I don't need them here.
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Europe has GSM band. Don't think they use that in USA. But I heard att and T-Mobile should work though.
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I believe that T-Mobile US is the same as Euro based phones, i.e. uses the same bands, 900Mhz, and AWS. Bell Canada and AT&T US use 850MHz which isn't compatible. They're both GSM for Voice, the data frequencies are different though.
Please correct if I've got that wrong. I know I looked up some of this and it all got scary.
There are various posts on the subject.
I found this so you can plug the county in and see what's compatibile.
(850MHz) http://www.gsmnation.com/htc-sensation-z710a-3g-850-1900-mhz.html
(900MHz) http://www.gsmnation.com/htc-sensation.html
EDIT: Why is life so complicated ? I thought we had it simple now, guess again. At least Pan Europe there is one standard (or so I believe).
Have fun.
thanks for all your input guys! i guess T-Mo is the way to go. my wife said that when she was back in the US (Hawaii and NY), she was not getting 3G on T-Mo while she was there.
could that just be that we don't have a 3G plan?
Hey guys, I have a question and hopefully you can answer and point me into the right direction.
I recently moved from England where i purchased my HTC sensation, and i moved too Canada, British Columbia. My phone is S-off and everything, so i was just wondering if i can get it to work in Canada, and what i would need to download and change or w.e else for it to be able to work on canadian simcards?
any information is greatly appreciated
Thankyou
Jas_932 said:
Hey guys, I have a question and hopefully you can answer and point me into the right direction.
I recently moved from England where i purchased my HTC sensation, and i moved too Canada, British Columbia. My phone is S-off and everything, so i was just wondering if i can get it to work in Canada, and what i would need to download and change or w.e else for it to be able to work on canadian simcards?
any information is greatly appreciated
Thankyou
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have you tried a canadian sim? your phone may already be unlocked...did you 'buy' it or did it come with a plan?
to unlock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232107
what bands do they use in canada? in the uk?
the sensation comes with
3G 900/2100
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3G 850/1900/2100
you need to find out which one you have, and then go with the telephone company that supports it
sorry, i don't know how to find out what you have, i'm sure other people do though
Hey man, thanks for the reply, i found out the in Canada, it is 3G 850/1900 MHz them two bands for 3G which i am not too bothered about, i would just rather keep my phone instead of having to buy a new one altogether. I got my unlock code from the guide posted above which is awesome, but when ever i put in my friends Canadian simcard it just comes up with no service.. it allows me to look at his messages etc however. I will try some other carriers today and see if anything else works
I was/still am on a Vodafone Contract, which is what the phone got shipped with.
This may sound like a really nooby question, but does flashing a different radio help at all? The main carrier where i am is TELUS, so i dont know if any of these; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1202867 would help at all?
Thanks for your help!
Your UK Vodafone 3G frequencies are 900/2100. You would therefore not get 3G there. You need to check whether Telus operate 2G at all. Bear in mind that some operators, like "3"in the UK use only 3G .
For your UK Sensation to work there, you need to find a GSM operator that uses 2G. This is you only option.
or you could purchase mobile wifi 3G (if they do that in canada) and use that to access the internet from your phone
...it's a shame, but your best bet would be to sell the sensation...you simply won't be able to access anything other than GSM in Canada
edited to add: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
International z710e works in Canada with Wind and Mobilicity. The 3G frequency of z710e is 900/AWS/2100. Wind and mobilicity operates on AWS.
For 2G connectivity, it's either Fido, Chatr, or Rogers.
You can confirm phone (850 or 900) country/carrier compatibility from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364100
I did try to post this info yesterday but seem to have completely failed to get it from the laptop to XDA.
For the Z710e it shows the following for Canada:
Thankyou so much Colin thats awesome will give it a deeper look after the weekend when im not working.
Cheers man
Jas_932 said:
Thankyou so much Colin thats awesome will give it a deeper look after the weekend when im not working.
Cheers man
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NP, hope it helps.
to find out if you have the Z710e or Z710a
goto settings>>About phone>>Phone identity. Look at the model number at the top
I believe European models are the same as Asian models which is Z710e. You can get 3G with Wind or Mobilicity networks only. I recommend Wind, they have $29 no contract with unlimited data, unlimited texts including international and unlimited calls Canada wide within wind home zone. Your phone will still work with rogers, bell, fido, kodoo etc. but only 2G