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Using GSM on Telus Touch Pro 2

Hello everyone. I just got my Touch Pro 2 from Telus and got it sim-unlocked. I am using it with Rogers wireless. So far so good. Except that 3G does not work Oh well..

mmmhhh86 said:
Hello everyone. I just got my Touch Pro 2 from Telus and got it sim-unlocked. I am using it with Rogers wireless. So far so good. Except that 3G does not work Oh well..
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Same thing with T-Mobile TP2 on AT&T network. Compare Rogers and Telus 3G bands. It might be different.

not to sound rude, but is the telus 3g (hspa) network even up yet?

slight22 said:
not to sound rude, but is the telus 3g (hspa) network even up yet?
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lol yeah I think so. I think its called 1x or something like that. I'm not very familiar with the CDMA phones but they advertise that you can use the phone to surf 3G speeds on their network so I'm pretty sure they have 3G speeds.

Sorry, but i'm using TELUS and the HSPA network won't be up till next year and trust me, Telus speeds now are NOTHING close to 3G.
I'm not sure how they are advertising these 3G speeds but 1x is actually slower than what Telus is currently using which is EVDO.

slight22 said:
Sorry, but i'm using TELUS and the HSPA network won't be up till next year and trust me, Telus speeds now are NOTHING close to 3G.
I'm not sure how they are advertising these 3G speeds but 1x is actually slower than what Telus is currently using which is EVDO.
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i dont think thats true at all. i get speeds of up to 2.8mg downlink and 500k up.
ive downloaded while tethering upwards up 300kb/s. you might be in an area with 1x coverage, and not EVDO. PLUS make sure the device you are using isnt just EVDO, it has to be EVDO REV A. (touch pro, diamond, touch pro 2, touch, etc). Hope you get better speeds. CHears

Telus EVDO is not slow. Unfortunately the HDPA network is not up yet but it should be online VERY soon as the Olympics are drawing close and this is the reason why Telus is upgrading the network before Feb. 2010 here in Vancouver.

keery458 said:
i dont think thats true at all. i get speeds of up to 2.8mg downlink and 500k up.
ive downloaded while tethering upwards up 300kb/s. you might be in an area with 1x coverage, and not EVDO. PLUS make sure the device you are using isnt just EVDO, it has to be EVDO REV A. (touch pro, diamond, touch pro 2, touch, etc). Hope you get better speeds. CHears
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Where the heck are you located?? I'm using a TP2 with full EV signal and i'm getting 400-600k and that's in the downtown core. And from what telus tells me thats the best they can do till they put the HSPA network up. They said CDMA is only capable of 7-750k max, there is no getting over that. But i'd love to know how your getting 2.8 meg, because technically thats roughly 2100k faster than what telus says we can get.
And Jessie is right Telus has a goal to sell phones during the olympics and they plan to have the HSPA up by then.

Yup I'm pretty sure I saw Telus advertising their high speed somewhere

im using a physical sim-card thingy to allow other sim cards to work in my telus TP2, it works (since it does not give me the regular error and i can see the numbers in it), but how do I stop it from using CDMA and go on GSM only?

Guys
I'm hoping you can help us no CDMA users with this question.
Considering that the CDMA TP2 has both GSM and CDMA radios, can I pop in a GSM SIM CARD and enjoy full GSM coverage including use of Asia and European 3G bands?

leepriestenator said:
Guys
I'm hoping you can help us no CDMA users with this question.
Considering that the CDMA TP2 has both GSM and CDMA radios, can I pop in a GSM SIM CARD and enjoy full GSM coverage including use of Asia and European 3G bands?
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Yes you can use it on GSM networks. If you want to use the phone on a SIM other that the company's provided sim you need to sim-unlock it. The 3G will work in Asia and Europe but not in North AMerica because the bands are different and the TP2 supports those of Asia and Europe only (the North American CDMA version).

julienrl said:
im using a physical sim-card thingy to allow other sim cards to work in my telus TP2, it works (since it does not give me the regular error and i can see the numbers in it), but how do I stop it from using CDMA and go on GSM only?
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Go to Phone Settings and select the Network tab then select GSM only instead of Global or CDMA

mmmhhh86 said:
Yes you can use it on GSM networks. If you want to use the phone on a SIM other that the company's provided sim you need to sim-unlock it. The 3G will work in Asia and Europe but not in North AMerica because the bands are different and the TP2 supports those of Asia and Europe only (the North American CDMA version).
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It is quadband gsm.... works on all continents.... provided it is unlocked or you are paying for global roaming.

hello guys, im going to purchase verizon tp2 cause they say it supports gsm and cheaper than the generic nonbranded version. tmobile's design i dislike. so as im going to use it only with gsm sim, i have such questions, are there any differences in use between gsm and vzw versions except i must select gsm mode? can i flash it with generic tp2 roms?
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okay, seems to be cdma versions cant be flashed to gsm as it is another model id(rhod400 and rhod500)
so i have one more question, will i be able to use internet on vzw tp2 without any restrictions on its stock rom now, when hardspl have not been released yet?

Just to be sure I understand if I want to buy a TP2 in Canada...
The Telus version will not be able to use GSN (Fido/Rogers) 3G network because the 3G bands are not the same as the TP2 from the United-States and Europe?
If so, would this version of the TP2 work with Fido/Rogers GSM 3g ?
http://www.puremobile.ca/HTC/HTC-Touch-Pro2-Black-GSM-Phone/

surbringer said:
Just to be sure I understand if I want to buy a TP2 in Canada...
The Telus version will not be able to use GSN (Fido/Rogers) 3G network because the 3G bands are not the same as the TP2 from the United-States and Europe?
If so, would this version of the TP2 work with Fido/Rogers GSM 3g ?
http://www.puremobile.ca/HTC/HTC-Touch-Pro2-Black-GSM-Phone/
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I dont think so. I dont think there's a PRO 2 that supports our North American 3G bands.. At least not yet.. For the question above. Yes it is GSM quadband but not 3G quadband. This is different. It is 3G dualband and supports those of Asia and Europe only. Unfortunately.

That's a good and clear answer! Thx !

No problem. I think when and if AT&T or some North American GSM carrier releases the TP2, then the 3G will definitely work here in NA. Otherwise the current versions only support Asia and Europe.

Another question, can we install a custom ROM on the worldphone telus Touch Pro 2 like the other GSM phones? (I dont think so but I found two opposite answers on this forum).

Anyone using Captivate on T-Mobile USA?

I like the Captivate better than the Vibrant. Will it allow me to use 3G on the T-Mobile network?

I believe you would only get edge on at&t.
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Technically it's the same type of network...

no, only EDGE. They have different 3G bands.
T-Mobile = 1700 MHz
ATT = 850 and 1900 MHz

we can use captivate in china with unicom

I have a Captivate on Tmobile.
Can confirm it's only Edge

I always snicker when I see these threads. T-Mo GSM =/= AT&T GSM. Yes there are common frequencies that all GSM phones use, but each carrier always has their own 3G frequency. None are shared.

While yes there are different GSM bands and yes T-mobile uses different GSM bands than AT&T, mostly all phones are quadband GSM nowadays and thus support but AT&T and T-mobile's GSM network. Even US triband GSM phones still has both AT&T and T-mobile's bands.
3G is where is it different. Not all phones support both T-mobiles and AT&T's 3g bands. Very few actually do. The Samsung Vibrant (another Galaxy S phone) supports T-mobile's 3G bands and can be changed in the service mode to support AT&T's 3G as well.
The Captivate is not the same. The Captivate can only support AT&T's 3G network and not T-mobile's 3G network. It will work on T-mobile's EDGE network.

amtrakcn said:
Technically it's the same type of network...
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No they have a different bands for 3g, just because they use Sim cards doesnt mean it can run 3g on both networks
opcow said:
I believe you would only get edge on at&t.
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Your wrong, the captivate is AT&T so you can 3G with AT&T and only Edge with tmobile

I'm also using the captivate on T-Mobile but can confirm that it's only on edge.

same situation with the nexus one. cant interchange or you can only get Edge

niceties of 3G
Wrong thread. I apologise!

vette95 said:
I just bought a Motorola Cliq (MB200). In Dominican Republic there are only 2 companies with 3G service. Claro Codetel (850Mhz) and Orange Dominicana (900Mhz)
Claro Codetel sells the Motorola Cliq for 3G usage on their network, branded to them of course.
The Cliq I bought is T-Mobile branded.
Is there ANY known way to debrand and have access to the 850 band for 3G?
I ask this question because I saw how it can be done on the Motorola Defy with a service flash found here, so I believe it should also be possible with my Moto Cliq.
I would really appreciate any input on this subject.
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Shouldn't you really be looking in those forums and not one for a Galaxy S phone?

Sorry, only did it because there were talks about other makes. I didn't realise it was a "Galaxy S Only" thread.
How do I delete my post?

I can get HSPDA over here in Malaysia.
Actually, both T-Mobile and AT&T phones work here. (2100Mhz 3G band)

vette95 said:
Sorry, only did it because there were talks about other makes. I didn't realise it was a "Galaxy S Only" thread.
How do I delete my post?
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Only phone mentioned here was the Captivate. Which is what this fora is for.
Sent from my Captivate

Is EDGE service bad? the reason I ask is that I'm planning a trip from Nova Scotia to British Columbia, and going to be drive through the states. Cheaper Gas/Food/Lodging. you get the picture. I have a Captivate from Rogers which is unlocked and was thinking about getting a T-Mobile SIM card to use the Day Pass unlimited internet. However I don't understand what edge means and if this is a good thing or not. LOL
Thanks

Well at&t just bought t-mobile so maybe there will be a combining of signals?

studacris said:
Well at&t just bought t-mobile so maybe there will be a combining of signals?
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They haven't bought, they are attempting to buy.
DOJ and FCC still have to approve it.
@OP
No, the Captivate was designed to only be supported for AT&T 3G. It does have the 2100 band, which T-Mobile 3G uses, but T-Mobile uses both 1700/2100 for upload/download, so if you don't have both, it locks you into 3G.

Anyone tried to flash a Phone with 1700 enabled?

How hard would it to have the Inspire on TMobile?

What would need to be done to have it on tmo. And would hspa+ and all that work?
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adamtheindien said:
What would need to be done to have it on tmo. And would hspa+ and all that work?
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I actually rooted my Inspire, loaded the Euro DHD ROM and tried it on T-Mobile this morning. It worked, but no 3G, much less 4G.

So what would need to be done to get that type of thing to work fully? Something with the baseband or something right?
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It can't be done, the hardware is different, you won't get anything better that edge

i really need my inspire unlocked?

just wait a few months, the htc incredible S is supposed to coming to Tmobile and that device has same specs as the inspire except smaller screen and has FFC.

Unlock it and you're good to go! That is, if you don't care for 3G/4G
The Inspire's 3G radio is incompatible with the bands used by T-Mobile unfortunately

i want the big screen though lol. I have a g2 right now and I'm really just craving one of those huge screens. What about the Desire HD? would that work on TMO? or is there any other options out there?

adamtheindien said:
i want the big screen though lol. I have a g2 right now and I'm really just craving one of those huge screens. What about the Desire HD? would that work on TMO? or is there any other options out there?
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your option is an hd2 on android

I don't get it. One of the reason I pick Inspire because it has the same 2G/3G band frequency like the Desire Z (G2). If Desire Z works then why not the Inspire?
Quote from GSMArena:
HTC Desire Z
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 2100, HSDPA 850 / 1900 - North America
HTC Inspire 4G
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900
Even the Incredible S is not 1700 band
HTC Incredible S
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 2100

The desire z looks like it does not work on t-mobile either. T-mobile needs 1700/2100 for 3g, which are not listed in the specs yet posted.

Can I use T-Mobile 3G devices on another carrier’s 3G networks?
You will not be able to roam with your T-Mobile 3G device on another carrier's 3G network. T-Mobile devices use the 1700Mhz/2100Mhz frequency band (for 3G) and it is specific to T-Mobile. You can however roam on another carrier's 1900Mhz frequency band using GSM. Likewise, another carrier’s 3G devices will not be able to roam on our 3G network.

r34p3rex said:
Unlock it and you're good to go! That is, if you don't care for 3G/4G
The Inspire's 3G radio is incompatible with the bands used by T-Mobile unfortunately
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yup basically, All you need to do is root the phone using either method. I tried it last night actually with my friends tmo sim. phone worked fine, except only edge service

epicKA8 said:
yup basically, All you need to do is root the phone using either method. I tried it last night actually with my friends tmo sim. phone worked fine, except only edge service
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But his question is specifically asking to use 3g on other carriers. Which the answer is no, even rooting won't help. It's a hardware limitation.

its something i have thought bout but why would you pay that much for a phone tht will only run on the Edge. Wait for the Pyramid to come out or get a Desire HD from ebay. its just the European version and has the bands ability. or like what has been mentioned before about the HD2 and load it with Android. Thats what Im using which is awesome becasue you can use the HSDPA speeds and 3G speeds and have that huge 4.3 inch display and still have a 1ghz snapdragon processor.. another awesome thing about it is that there is SOOO many roms you can load to customize your phone like if you wanted the basic Sense Rom like the inspire or the Evo there are plenty of roms for it, if yo wanted the MyTouch 4G rom then you can load it, if you wanted a Nexus Rom then you can load it, and its much faster with updates so you can even have Gingerbread already on your phone and they are even already gettting the bugs worked out of having Honeycomb on the good ole HD2. its overall a very under rated phone but thats because it had tons of issues with WinMo 6.5 but with ANdroid loaded on it I havent had problem one with it.. Im sure others have thier opinion but thats mine for it.. hopefully any info helps...

RogerPodacter said:
But his question is specifically asking to use 3g on other carriers. Which the answer is no, even rooting won't help. It's a hardware limitation.
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didn't you read the quote i replied too? i said nothing about being able to use 3g, infact, i said quite the opposite, i confirmed like others, 3g will not work. :rollseyes: gotta love ppl who don't read what you actually posted.

Oh I missed the last statement of your post. It was tagged there at the end.

AT&T to Buy T-Mobile for $39 Billion USD
AT&T to Buy T-Mobile for $39 Billion USD
T-Mobile 3G (i think 4G also) Phones Will Require Replacement After AT&T Merger
SO buying this phone and unlocking it will give u a little while to use T-Mobiles services (maybe 2 years AT MOST) after that u will need an AT&T phone
but the trade off to being able to use T-Mobile for a while is that u will be at slower speeds for a while BEFORE AT&T destroys this grate service provider
can you say "Cingular" ?
so this is the best GSM phone as it will be merger proof !!

Internet settings?
hey guys i realize this is an older post but i rooted and unlocked my htc inspire and put in a Tmobile sim card and calls work fine and text messages too the phone automatically detected apn and everything but i cant get it to connect to the internet what should i do is there a way to set to 2g networks only? is that even required?

u will not get 3g on tmobile..ive tried
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[Q] USA to UK network

Hi, I live in the UK and I have just purchased a HTC Inspire from eBay.com
In the description the seller has stated that the device will take worldwide sim cards and should work with my O2 contract sim card.
The following is part of the description from the sellers page:
The Phone is Unlocked to all GSM networks and will work with any SIM card worldwide..But please note that 3G and 4G is only supported on AT&T (or any network that has the AT&T 3G Bands)
I'm just wondering if anyone has been in a similar situation and if they have had problems with things like - connecting to 3G, Wifi etc.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

You will be able to talk and use mobile data anywhere there is GSM coverage. The only 3g band that O2 and the Incite share is 1900, so your 3g performance will be spotty at best. Wifi won't be a problem.
Sent from my Inspire using the power of the dark side.

neosny said:
Hi, I live in the UK and I have just purchased a HTC Inspire from eBay.com
In the description the seller has stated that the device will take worldwide sim cards and should work with my O2 contract sim card.
The following is part of the description from the sellers page:
The Phone is Unlocked to all GSM networks and will work with any SIM card worldwide..But please note that 3G and 4G is only supported on AT&T (or any network that has the AT&T 3G Bands)
I'm just wondering if anyone has been in a similar situation and if they have had problems with things like - connecting to 3G, Wifi etc.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Isn't the desire hd the phone you should get since its the euro based inspire?
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biglittlegato said:
You will be able to talk and use mobile data anywhere there is GSM coverage. The only 3g band that O2 and the Incite share is 1900, so your 3g performance will be spotty at best. Wifi won't be a problem.
Sent from my Inspire using the power of the dark side.
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Thanks for the info! - less worried now lol
1.18.12 said:
Isn't the desire hd the phone you should get since its the euro based inspire?
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ye - I'd been looking for 1 on eBay.co.uk and also Gumtree for a while but the prices were just to much. (and I actually got scammed on 1 using Gumtree!)
So I decided to try eBay.com and found it cheaper

you will not be able to get 3G with the Inspire over there in UK. it only has 3G bands for ATT in the USA. so you will get old GSM, but not 3G.

Htc one s Pentaband

Anyone know of this is real. I didn't think they made a Pentaband one s. I will probably contact them tomorrow. It's also in black.
http://canadagsm.ca/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/
I've bought from SNtraders in the passt
http://sntradersonline.com/HTC/HTC-One-S-Unlocked-OEM-AWS-Penta-Band/

Doubt it, but if it is, I'd love to know. I'd be all in for that one.

As far as I know the HTC One S international version does not have the 1900 3G band for at&t, only the Tmobile version does(pentaband) & this is because tmobile is currently in the process of refarming their network to add the 1900 3G band which has always been the 3G frequency used by at&t in the U.S. This means if you get the tmobile branded One S it will definitely work with the at&t 3G just like the HTC Amaze 4G would also, hope this helps

alc2077 said:
As far as I know the HTC One S international version does not have the 1900 3G band for at&t, only the Tmobile version does(pentaband) & this is because tmobile is currently in the process of refarming their network to add the 1900 3G band which has always been the 3G frequency used by at&t in the U.S. This means if you get the tmobile branded One S it will definitely work with the at&t 3G just like the HTC Amaze 4G would also, hope this helps
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that's correct. using a us tmobile htc one s on ATT right now
however, one issue I have run into is that sometimes data doesnt work. It remains "connected" constantly, but then up/down data is always cutting.. dont know if its a software or hardware problem

UserDemos said:
Doubt it, but if it is, I'd love to know. I'd be all in for that one.
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As would I..