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US Cellular TP2 works with ATT 3G?

As the title reads out, I was wanting to know if the USCC TP2 will ever work on 3G because Edge is getting a little slow... I have seen the "G" up on my bar before but quickly goes away, so that leads me to believe that it could be possible.
Also, I heard that hardware is compatible with the 3G network. So please, could someone that knows more into this tell me if anything will work or even MIGHT work?
Thank you so much!
-Cyanide

i would also like to know because i just unlocked the us cellular touch pro 2 for use on att. but when i try the internet it just says dialed 777 failed

Hey, in order for that dialed 7777 error to go away, you need to add ATT internet settings instead of the original carrier settings.
So do this...
Go to your Data Connection options
Add New Connection
Then Put this in for the info:
wap.cingular for the APN
[email protected] - username
CINGULAR1 - password
That should work, of course there is an ATT data cab somewhere, but thats how you set it up manually, I hope this helped!
Cyanide

thanks man i really appreciate. kinda new to this but not really. last windows mobikle phone i had was a touch pro. and i bought an iphone after. BIGGEST MISTAKE EVER. now ive forgotten everything

for some reason it wont go E to G and i cant use certain att features like being on the phone and internet please help

cyanide77 said:
As the title reads out, I was wanting to know if the USCC TP2 will ever work on 3G because Edge is getting a little slow... I have seen the "G" up on my bar before but quickly goes away, so that leads me to believe that it could be possible.
Also, I heard that hardware is compatible with the 3G network. So please, could someone that knows more into this tell me if anything will work or even MIGHT work?
Thank you so much!
-Cyanide
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G = GPRS
E = EDGE
G = Slower than EDGE and nothing to do with 3G.
You're not going to get that phone to work on ATT 3G/UMTS. The band support simply isn't there.

gamescan said:
G = GPRS
E = EDGE
G = Slower than EDGE and nothing to do with 3G.
You're not going to get that phone to work on ATT 3G/UMTS. The band support simply isn't there.
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Based on phonearena's tech specs though the TP2 cant even reach full 3g on verizon's network. Here is the link to some verizon phones:
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC-Touch-Pro2-CDMA-phone-p_3710.html
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Palm-Pre-Plus-phone-p_4347.html
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Motorola-DROID-phone-p_3853.html
Same shows true for both sprint and AT&T versions as well.

So what is required of the phone to reach 3G at all?

cyanide77 said:
So what is required of the phone to reach 3G at all?
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The phone has 3g capability, it is not accessing the full power of the network due to hardware though. If AT&T nerfs their non-iPhones to EDGE then that is what you will max at. If you look at the palm pixi or pre it has faster data speeds because of the hardware. In other words i'm not really sure if faster speeds are capable (due to hardware restrictions) and on AT&T i'm even more unsure because of how their apple contract is structured.

Ah that sounds really crazy! Lol, I wish things were simple. And now, I am noticing my Multimedia Messages aren't going though, I am not sure what that is from though. Anyone have a clue on that?

burtonsnow8 said:
Based on phonearena's tech specs though the TP2 cant even reach full 3g on verizon's network.
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What are you talking about? The CDMA TP2 can very well reach 3G speed (EVDO Rev A) on Sprint and Verizon. It'll also reach 3G speed on European WCDMA/UMTS networks. The ATT TP will reach 3G speed on ATT and European WCDMA/UMTS networks.
The statement above doesn't make any sense.
cyanide77 said:
So what is required of the phone to reach 3G at all?
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All that's required is that you use a version of the phone on a network with a compatible band. The ATT, TMO, Sprint, VZW, etc. TP2s will all reach 3G ontheir respective networks with no problem. When used on other networks the phones may or may not have support for the 3G band used by the network. If it doesn't have the band support then it's not going to work.
burtonsnow8 said:
The phone has 3g capability, it is not accessing the full power of the network due to hardware though. If AT&T nerfs their non-iPhones to EDGE then that is what you will max at. If you look at the palm pixi or pre it has faster data speeds because of the hardware. In other words i'm not really sure if faster speeds are capable (due to hardware restrictions) and on AT&T i'm even more unsure because of how their apple contract is structured.
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Please stop making stuff up. This is absolutely not true. The TP2 is not "nerfed." You just need to use the correct model (ie ATT version) on ATT if you want 3G on ATT.
cyanide77 said:
Ah that sounds really crazy! Lol, I wish things were simple. And now, I am noticing my Multimedia Messages aren't going though, I am not sure what that is from though. Anyone have a clue on that?
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It is simple. Stupid simple.
If you want 3G you buy the version of the phone that supports the 3G band that your carrier is using.
As far as MMS, you need to make sure that your account is data enabled and that your phone has the data settings for your carrier loaded.

I found a cab that worked for my ATT MMS settings, that was no problem, but like I stated, I have a US Cellular TP2, so it is not a Tilt 2 (ATT) or I would not be posting in the CDMA section of the TP2 forums.
As far as I know the US Cellular device (TP2) has the hardware requirements of ATT 3G network, and I am asking why will it not work up to 3G speeds? Only thing I could think of is that there is not a specific radio for this yet, or something... because the specs of the USC TP2 does in fact work with the 3G bands of ATT.
So what is stopping the device from connecting to it?

cyanide77 said:
I found a cab that worked for my ATT MMS settings, that was no problem, but like I stated, I have a US Cellular TP2, so it is not a Tilt 2 (ATT) or I would not be posting in the CDMA section of the TP2 forums.
As far as I know the US Cellular device (TP2) has the hardware requirements of ATT 3G network, and I am asking why will it not work up to 3G speeds? Only thing I could think of is that there is not a specific radio for this yet, or something... because the specs of the USC TP2 does in fact work with the 3G bands of ATT.
So what is stopping the device from connecting to it?
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According to all of the hardware specs, none of the TP2 CDMA variants support the 3G bands used by ATT. It will not work because it is simply not compatible.
If you want to use it in Europe or Japan, you'll get 3G. But as far as using it in the US on ATT or TMO, you're only going to get EDGE speeds because those are the only US bands that it supports.
The only versions of the TP2 that support ATT's 3G bands are the ATT version and (if launched) the Australian GSM version. The CDMA versions, the Euro version and the TMO US version will not support ATT 3G.

gamescan said:
According to all of the hardware specs, none of the TP2 CDMA variants support the 3G bands used by ATT. It will not work because it is simply not compatible.
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All the specs I read, the Verizon CDMA phone supports Quad band GSM
GSM Quad-band phone capable of global roaming (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
CDMA dual band (1900/800 MHz)
UMTS European/Asian 3G (2100 MHz)
Does this not cover the 3G bands ATT uses? I thought it was 1900?

x51 said:
All the specs I read, the Verizon CDMA phone supports Quad band GSM
GSM Quad-band phone capable of global roaming (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
CDMA dual band (1900/800 MHz)
UMTS European/Asian 3G (2100 MHz)
Does this not cover the 3G bands ATT uses? I thought it was 1900?
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GSM = GPRS (2G) and EDGE (2.5G)
UMTS = 3G
ATT uses GSM 850/1900 for 2G/2.5G and UMTS/WCDMA 850/1900 for 3G.
If you use a CDMA Touch Pro 2 on ATT it'll work on 2G/2.5G (since it is compatible) but it won't work on 3G since the band support isn't there.
If ATT used UMTS 2100 it would work.

so will the US Cellular TP2 ever be able to get 3G from ATT network? or will it always be limited to Edge?

cyanide77 said:
so will the US Cellular TP2 ever be able to get 3G from ATT network? or will it always be limited to Edge?
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Edge.
If you want to use a TP2 on ATT with 3G, get the ATT version.
If you want to use a TP2 on TMO US with 3G, get the TMO US version.

gamescan said:
Edge.
If you want to use a TP2 on ATT with 3G, get the ATT version.
If you want to use a TP2 on TMO US with 3G, get the TMO US version.
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TMo US uses UMTS 2100 for 3G so you should be able to get 3G on TMo but not ATT.

piedra92 said:
TMo US uses UMTS 2100 for 3G so you should be able to get 3G on TMo but not ATT.
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TMO US uses UMTS 1700.
While it technically uses both 1700 and 2100 channels, UMTS 1700 is not the same as UMTS 2100 (used in Europe).
So no, the Sprint TP2 won't use UMTS 2100 on TMO US. It'll just use Edge. Now TMO UK (or anywhere in Europe) it'll get 3G because there they use UMTS 2100.

so there is no way???
i was checking ht cell and in the bands it says umts 850 but nothing happens thats too bad. it lloks like im gonna have to buy a at&t one to be able to work

At&t and T-Mobile HSPA+ can run same device?

I know how At&t are gonna have HSPA+ 4g, I'm confused about the new devices they're gonna have that support HSPA+. Are they going to be able to connect to HSPA+ on T-Mobile's network.
So for example, I buy an unlocked HSPA+ tablet from AT&T, straight from their store. Is it going to be able to use T-Mobile's HSPA+ network if I put a T-Mobile SIM card inside?
Also, one last question, if I use T-Mobile's SIM card, do I have to do some special stuff to get it to work on their cell network? Like how you have to unlock an iPhone for it to work on T-Mobile?
Thanks

xAliceNine said:
I know how At&t are gonna have HSPA+ 4g, I'm confused about the new devices they're gonna have that support HSPA+. Are they going to be able to connect to HSPA+ on T-Mobile's network.
So for example, I buy an unlocked HSPA+ tablet from AT&T, straight from their store. Is it going to be able to use T-Mobile's HSPA+ network if I put a T-Mobile SIM card inside?
Also, one last question, if I use T-Mobile's SIM card, do I have to do some special stuff to get it to work on their cell network? Like how you have to unlock an iPhone for it to work on T-Mobile?
Thanks
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Hello,
Unfortunately you will not be able to use HSPA+. HSPA+ is just an extension/revision of the current 3G. Effectively it is also called 3.5G/3.75G in some reports. They use the same 3G band of each respective company. The At&t tablet would work on 850/1900 band and T-mobile will work on their AWS (1700) band. So if you bought an At&t tablet, you may need to get it unlocked, not sure if they lock the sim on tablets. At best you would get Edge service with a T-mobile sim.

thanks man, argg
do you think it's worth it to change to at&t because I just heard of the Motorola Atrix and it sound PRETTY BAD ASS!
I don't know since people I know are always angry at AT&T for their service either..

xAliceNine said:
thanks man, argg
do you think it's worth it to change to at&t because I just heard of the Motorola Atrix and it sound PRETTY BAD ASS!
I don't know since people I know are always angry at AT&T for their service either..
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NP. I have had every major carrier offered in the US. I have had at&t, t-mobile, and sprint within the last year. I had verizon a while ago and dropped them because they could never get my bill right. Honestly, the service is about the same. The question is how is the service in your area. I mainly stay in my area about 90-98% of the time. I live in a major city so all carries have great service. But I have stayed with At&t for the last few years. Every time I go to another carrier I kept my at&t service, go figure. So I would just look at coverage to where you travel the most and go with a carrier that will give you the best coverage for the best price. Do i prefer a carrier over another, yeah. I like GSM carriers better because I do like to surf and talk at the same time. Sprint can do this if your in a 4G coverage area and have a 4G phone. Verizon is a no go with this feature until they release their LTE phones. But At&t has a better coverage footprint than T-mobile that is why I stick with them. Hope it helps.

Wondering a bit about this too.
I have service through Bendbroadband using a HSPA+ SIM with USB modem Dongle by bandluxe. The service is stellar on the speed, but I can't use the dongle with everything (iPad), so looking for alternate routes before i decide to move to a different provider.
I noticed that the CTO of the company said in a comment regarding their service that any unlocked UE that supports HSPA/HSPA+ in the AWS band could be used, but also had an unclear reponse on cell phones with HSPA+.
I have a Huawei Comet (unlocked), it lists the same AWS Bands compatible, but says HSDPA (which I thought HSDPA + HSUPA = HSPA+ but at higher speeds, correct me if I am wrong), and has hotspot tether that works with tmobile web service no problem.
I plugged the SIM in, and it updates the bar with BendBroadband but I get no data. (might need to provide the IMEI or something)..
Curious if you think it should work, before i go knocking on their doors.
Some other specs:
the mytouch 4g (HSPA+) lists the bands as:850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100)
The comet is listed as: 850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100)
I am fairly sure the comet is HSPA+ but not advertised that way.

According to comments on the site, Bendbroadband technicians do not actually support moving of the SIMs. Bummer.. trying to keep my business local.. Bumping and moving to Tmobile once the month is up.

4g service question

Hey guys,
I am a little lost on this. I was looking on the Infuse and thought about getting it and unlocking it to use with tmobile and was wondering if i would get 4g speeds on it. Here is the bands i pulled off on AT&T's website for the phone:
GSM/EDGE:GSM/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 3G - UMTS/HSDPAHSPA 850/1900/2100 4G*HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul
According to this, it should work. Am i mistaken?
Thanks

sisco22 said:
Hey guys,
I am a little lost on this. I was looking on the Infuse and thought about getting it and unlocking it to use with tmobile and was wondering if i would get 4g speeds on it. Here is the bands i pulled off on AT&T's website for the phone:
GSM/EDGE:GSM/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 3G - UMTS/HSDPAHSPA 850/1900/2100 4G*HSPA+ with enhanced backhaul
According to this, it should work. Am i mistaken?
Thanks
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Um, why would you think it would work? Do you see UMTS1700 in there? I don't.

I thought it used 2100? I don't know much about the bands. Just started reading on who supported what.

tmobile uses mainly the 1700 band for 3g/4g. they also own the 700 band but i dont believe they use it. att is mostly on the 850 and 1900 bands. european and asian bands are typically 900 and 2100 so they dont really use those bands to keep unlocked phones off the network. the infuse does not work for 3g and 4g on tmobiles network, sorry.

ahh ok. that makes sense now. I've mainly stuck with tmobile phones, except tried an iphone a couple of times. but att has some cooler phones that i thougth i might want to try, but guess that won't happen now . I use the net on my phone alot, so it would be an issue.

Actually AT&T's weird bands have nothing to do with keeping unlocked phones off their network, just the fact that 2100 MHz wasn't available in the US for any carrier.
UMTS2100 is for international roaming, as it's the standard UMTS band in almost every other country.

T-Mobile uses 1700 and 2100, and you NEED both for 3G/4G to work.

i though the att bands were the same as rogers, bell, and telus use in canada? and the same as used in some other countries in the americas and in places like new zealand. i wouldnt exactly say att has the weird bands in this case.
maybe in a year or two att will merge networks with t-mo and you will have a huge selection of compatable phones.

its the same as rogers in canada, and telstra in australia. i belive bell and telus are cdma.

The Jack of Clubs said:
its the same as rogers in canada, and telstra in australia. i belive bell and telus are cdma.
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the bell vibrant is an i9000 and the telus fascinate is a t-mo vibrant, the modems all work on the captivate. trust me they are all gsm networks and fully compatable with att phones.

Any Att Phone or Unlock Phone with tmobile 3g?

Ok i have a tmobile s2 and a att unlock lg thrill, i plan to tether with my s2 but tmobile makes you pay a fee each month so i cant do that, recently i put my tmobile sim card in the att lg thrill and i decided to try and tether from the thrill and it was able to work but only with edge speed. So im just wondering if there's any phone out there that can get tmobile 3g but it's not tmobile branded, basically is there any cheap pentaband phones out there?
i would love to get a pentaband phone to tether... i like getting more phones but i would consider to try and root my s2 if i have too, i suck at rooting phones xD

It doesn't matter which phone you use. T-mobile can see how much data you're using and recommend (or force) you to have the tethering plan.
Btw, loved the Thrill, great phone.

KayxGee1 said:
It doesn't matter which phone you use. T-mobile can see how much data you're using and recommend (or force) you to have the tethering plan.
Btw, loved the Thrill, great phone.
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that only happens on my tmobile s2, tmobile directs you to a page to get the tethering plan. When i tether with the thrill, tmobile doesnt direct me to tethering page so basically i can tether with the thrill.

If you use ATT phone on T-Mobile 3G network, you will likely be getting EDGE speed only as most ATT phones only work with dual-band UMTS 850/1900. T-Mobile 3G/4G network operates on UMTS 1700/2100, as I vaguely recalled.
For ATT, UMTS 850 is the dominant band for 3G/4G network. UMTS 1900 only works with a very limited coverage. That is the main reason that most overseas phones failed to obtain 3G+ data speed on ATT network as most of them are dual-UMTS 900/2100 or tri-UMTS 900/1800/2100.
I have never been a customer on T-Mobile, but it has been alleged that UMTS1700 is the dominant band on T-mobile 3G/4G network. If that is indeed true, then it is close to impossible to get any 3rd-party unlocked phones to work with T-mobile 3G/4G network. While UMTS2100 is very common on overseas phones, UMTS1700 is close to non-existance other than the phones subsidized by T-Mobile.
UMTS850 is hard to get by, but not as hard as UMTS1700.
This is the trick for mobile carriers to lock in their customers.

GSM version of the Galaxy Nexus should work. It has 850, 900, 1700, 1900 and 2100 bands.

adelmundo said:
GSM version of the Galaxy Nexus should work. It has 850, 900, 1700, 1900 and 2100 bands.
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yeah the nexus should work but it's too expensive for me haha
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Then the GSM version of the Nexus S...900, 1700, 2100, but then again T-Mo has a version of Nexus S already I believe.

adelmundo said:
Then the GSM version of the Nexus S...900, 1700, 2100, but then again T-Mo has a version of Nexus S already I believe.
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oh my bad, i meant the galaxy nexus, i forgot the galaxy part
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[Q] Verizon Razr Maxx HD LTE in Canada?

Hi Guys,
So I got a new Razr HD from Verizon, and took it to Canada where I live. I travel a lot from the USA to Canada. The phone specs seem to indicate that it has all the bands necessary to support all the GSM and LTE bands as well as CDMA when in the states. I was able to easily get 3G/H+ service from Rogers in Canada by simply changing the Network Mode to GSM/UMTS instead of Global and then adding an APN for Rogers. However, I cannot get LTE service. The LTE choice seems to be bundled with CDMA LTE/CDMA but I don't think that matters, I think its just a radio choice. However, when selecting this, I get an error from the phone saying "No LTE networks could be found" and Do I want to switch to GSM?
This is sad because the phone would be excellent on LTE. Does anyone know how to get a Verizon branded phone to run on Rogers LTE?
If you have any ideas let me know, I will test them.
Thanks,
Blue

BluePlanetMan said:
Hi Guys,
So I got a new Razr HD from Verizon, and took it to Canada where I live. I travel a lot from the USA to Canada. The phone specs seem to indicate that it has all the bands necessary to support all the GSM and LTE bands as well as CDMA when in the states. I was able to easily get 3G/H+ service from Rogers in Canada by simply changing the Network Mode to GSM/UMTS instead of Global and then adding an APN for Rogers. However, I cannot get LTE service. The LTE choice seems to be bundled with CDMA LTE/CDMA but I don't think that matters, I think its just a radio choice. However, when selecting this, I get an error from the phone saying "No LTE networks could be found" and Do I want to switch to GSM?
This is sad because the phone would be excellent on LTE. Does anyone know how to get a Verizon branded phone to run on Rogers LTE?
If you have any ideas let me know, I will test them.
Thanks,
Blue
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Short answer, you can't. Different LTE bands. Rogers is 4 and 17, Verizon is 1, 3, 5, 13, 25. No overlap, and no-one currently makes LTE hardware that supports ALL LTE bands.

EdwardN said:
Short answer, you can't. Different LTE bands. Rogers is 4 and 17, Verizon is 1, 3, 5, 13, 25. No overlap, and no-one currently makes LTE hardware that supports ALL LTE bands.
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Just wanted to add to this... I tested my Samsung Galaxy S3, a generic version that I got from Amazon, works on AT&T in the USA on LTE and in ROGERS in Canada. Too bad the Verizon Droid does not support a similar global LTE band. Or does AT&T and Rogers simply have the same LTE bands???

BluePlanetMan said:
Just wanted to add to this... I tested my Samsung Galaxy S3, a generic version that I got from Amazon, works on AT&T in the USA on LTE and in ROGERS in Canada. Too bad the Verizon Droid does not support a similar global LTE band. Or does AT&T and Rogers simply have the same LTE bands???
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Yes, AT&T and Rogers have maintained the same bands since they were partnered maybe 10 years ago. Fido is owned by Rogers, so it also uses the same, from GSM up to LTE.
Neither AT&T or Verizon use "global" LTE bands, because there aren't any. Almost every country/provider uses different bands. There's some crossover, but with LTE, buy a phone for the market you are in, because you probably couldn't afford the roaming rates abroad anyway.

Hey guys, I think I have a related question.. maybe you guys can help
I live in Toronto and Rogers is my wireless carrier. From my understanding, Rogers operates on band 4 (1700 / 2100 mhz) as well as 2600 Mhz.
I am thinking of gettnig the new DROID MAXX from Verizon. I have tried asking the Verizon / Motorola reps about whether the LTE would work in Canada but wasn't able to get a firm answer.
From the Motorola website, however, as well as from gsmarena.com, it looks like the DROID MAXX will have access to not only LTE 700mhz, but also at 1700 and 2100 mhz.
What are the chances that this phone will work on Rogers LTE?
Really hoping it could work out... let me know if you guys have any ideas..