Hey guys,
My friend just bought a HTC Sensation for T mobile from the states, (we are from Canada) and he wants to connect it on his Telus contract. Yes he does have a sim card, and he had it unlocked already. The problem is he is not getting any service and when he goes into settings and tries to register his network it only comes up with Rogers? Now I know that T mobile runs at 1700 MHz/2100 MHz and Telus at 1900MHz, but from what I have read else where it should work? If not, would changing to possibly a Bell modem work for his handset, or is he SOL?
thanks guys!
Since Telus only uses "4G" for their network, (ie. no EDGE/2g) a Sensation from T-Mobile will not work on Telus at all. Tell him to sell it and buy the Bell version and unlock it.
Haugrud said:
Since Telus only uses "4G" for their network, (ie. no EDGE/2g) a Sensation from T-Mobile will not work on Telus at all. Tell him to sell it and buy the Bell version and unlock it.
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Do you mean T-Mobile only uses 4G? The HTC Sensation is a 4G phone? Hence the name HTC Sensation "4g"??
Galaxy19000M said:
Do you mean T-Mobile only uses 4G? The HTC Sensation is a 4G phone? Hence the name HTC Sensation "4g"??
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Different 3G/4G frequencies (1700 aka AWS for T-Mobile and 850/1900 for Telus).
bachviet said:
Different 3G/4G frequencies (1700 aka AWS for T-Mobile and 850/1900 for Telus).
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So like he said there is no way of getting this phone to run on Telus lol? That kinda sucks, I told him he should have bought the SGS II like I did
Galaxy19000M said:
So like he said there is no way of getting this phone to run on Telus lol? That kinda sucks, I told him he should have bought the SGS II like I did
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Yeap there is no way. Sell the phone to a WIND user and buy the unlocked Bell one.
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Hi everyone,
I'm currently in the USA for an internship and I'm tempted to buy an Inspire since it's so much cheaper than what it would cost back in the Netherlands. However I've searched a lot now and I can't figure this out.
Will the Inspire work on my network back in the Netherlands? I'm on T-mobile. I'm sure GSM will work and so on, but I would really like to know if 3G and even 4G will work back at home?
So, bottomline, buy or don't buy ?
,Jordy
Frixxion said:
Hi everyone,
I'm currently in the USA for an internship and I'm tempted to buy an Inspire since it's so much cheaper than what it would cost back in the Netherlands. However I've searched a lot now and I can't figure this out.
Will the Inspire work on my network back in the Netherlands? I'm on T-mobile. I'm sure GSM will work and so on, but I would really like to know if 3G and even 4G will work back at home?
So, bottomline, buy or don't buy ?
,Jordy
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Yes it will work but, if you want to use it on another gsm network in the Netherlands you will need to unlock it. I suggest you root it using the ace hack kit. I tested this method and I can say my phone is unlocked.
4G on the Inspire is HSDPA+ its just a upgraded 3g network. If your network in the Netherlands supports this you will have the same speeds or faster. Just check the freq for you home network with the inspire tech spec. I suspect it will work since its the same phone as the Desire HD sold in Europe.
Frixxion said:
Hi everyone,
I'm currently in the USA for an internship and I'm tempted to buy an Inspire since it's so much cheaper than what it would cost back in the Netherlands. However I've searched a lot now and I can't figure this out.
Will the Inspire work on my network back in the Netherlands? I'm on T-mobile. I'm sure GSM will work and so on, but I would really like to know if 3G and even 4G will work back at home?
So, bottomline, buy or don't buy ?
,Jordy
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Not if T-Mobile is your provider, T-Mobiles 3G/HSPA+ network uses different frequencies than the Inspire operates on. T-Mobile uses 1700/2100 for their 3G/HSPA+. ATT and the Inspire use 850/1900 (which T-Mobile uses for Edge). So with T-Mobile you'll get voice and Edge data, but no 3G/4G
Inspire Specs
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homeslice976 said:
Not if T-Mobile is your provider, T-Mobiles 3G/HSPA+ network uses different frequencies than the Inspire operates on. T-Mobile uses 1700/2100 for their 3G/HSPA+. ATT and the Inspire use 850/1900 (which T-Mobile uses for Edge). So with T-Mobile you'll get voice and Edge data, but no 3G/4G
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T-Mobile in Europe uses different frequencies than T-Mobile in the US (probably 900MHz or 2100MHz), but regardless, the Inspire won't support them.
yg17 said:
T-Mobile in Europe uses different frequencies than T-Mobile in the US (probably 900MHz or 2100MHz), but regardless, the Inspire won't support them.
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Good point. Looks like T-Mobile in the netherlands uses GSM1800 and WCDMA2100 - which won't give you high speed data on the Inspire
The Inspire does not suppprt 3g bands that are commonly used outside of north america, so while the phone will generally work, you can only get 2g (edge) data in Europe/Asia/etc..
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I am pretty sure it will only be 2G but just wanted to check...
ekerbuddyeker said:
I am pretty sure it will only be 2G but just wanted to check...
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they will NEVER release a T-Mobile branded phone that will work on both 3G networks before the merger is complete. There is a HTC Sensation that will be released in Canada that will have the same bands as AT&T so you might want to check that one.
nccu_eagles said:
they will NEVER release a T-Mobile branded phone that will work on both 3G networks before the merger is complete. There is a HTC Sensation that will be released in Canada that will have the same bands as AT&T so you might want to check that one.
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Well the Samsung Vibrant works on AT&T 3G...
aNYthing24 said:
Well the Samsung Vibrant works on AT&T 3G...
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vibrant works on at&t EDGE not 3g/4g
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vibrant works on at&t EDGE not 3g/4g
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Well i have 3g speeds on Att with my vibrant ... Guess the speed test are lying to me
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If you are in an area that supports AT&T's 1900MHz frequency for 3G, you may me able to get 3G speeds on AT&T with an unlocked Sensation 4G. At least according to the box the phone supports the 1900MHz frequency. No one has reported using an unlocked Sensation 4G on AT&T's network yet, as far as I know.
Yes it
nccu_eagles said:
vibrant works on at&t EDGE not 3g/4g
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The vibrant definitely gets 3g on at&t. I have an unlocked vibrant in loui
sville and it almost never goes to edge. Google it and see the bands for the vibrant. Its a well known fact.
Hi everyone,
sorry for a noob question.
I have a HTC HD2 running an android rom (Typhonn), and tomorrow, i'm going to buy a new HTC, the Htc Sensation. The store says it is a HTC Sensation 4G (T-MObile version).
I have been reading a lot of stuff about, but untill now i'm still unable to distinguish a 4G model from other sensation ( i don't know how it used to be named - maybe vanilla whatelse).
Is there a specific serial number or a simple test or any sign or place in settings or configurations i can go to confirm if it is the genuine 4G model?
Once again, sorry for my bad english, for my noob question, and thanks in advance for your attention.
p.s. yes, i've already googled for it, but find lots of confusing pictures and reviews.
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Hi everyone,
sorry for a noob question.
I have an HTC HD2 running an android rom (Typhonn), and tomorrow, i'm going to buy a new HTC, the Htc Sensation. The store says it is a HTC Sensation 4G (T-MObile version).
I have been reading a lot of stuff about, but untill now i'm still unable to distinguish a 4G model from other sensation ( i don't know how it used to be named - maybe vanilla whatelse).
Is there a specific serial number or a simple test or any sign or place in settings or configurations i can go to confirm if it is the genuine 4G model?
Once again, sorry for my bad english, for my noob question, and thanks in advance for your attention.
p.s. yes, i've already googled for it, but find lots of confusing pictures and reviews.
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Youll probably see the T-Mobile logo on it somewhere near the top front of the screen. Also, if this is any sort of reputable dealer, they ought know what they have.
Matt
Easy, the unbranded one has HTC logo in the middle, and 4G version has HTC logo on the left and T-mobile logo on the right (below the top speaker)
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
As both are HSPA+ capable, they are both "4G."
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Youll probably see the T-Mobile logo on it somewhere near the top front of the screen. Also, if this is any sort of reputable dealer, they ought know what they have.
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idavid_ said:
Easy, the unbranded one has HTC logo in the middle, and 4G version has HTC logo on the left and T-mobile logo on the right (below the top speaker)
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
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Thank you guys. But i've already read about 4G distributted by canadian Bell, then this 4G model comes with a Bell logo in the upper right instead of T-Mobile logo?
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As both are HSPA+ capable, they are both "4G."
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Thank you Rod3, so the only difference is the T-Mobile (or Bell) logo in the right side, just below speaker? Because there are some sites talking sensation is 3G dual band, and 4G is 3G triband. This all based on this comparation.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3922&idPhone2=3875
look at both 3G network line, 4G additional 1700 Mhz capable. This is right?
Maybe it has a sign in the battery like HTC HD2. Can u tell me if your sensatio battery has the model of phone type printed?
Once again thanks.
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Thank you guys. But i've already read about 4G distributted by canadian Bell, then this 4G model comes with a Bell logo in the upper right instead of T-Mobile logo?
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I've never seen a Bell version, but I think it looks the same as unbranded
Edit: I just found pics of Bell version, and yes, it looks the same as unbranded
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
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I've never seen a Bell version, but I think it looks the same as unbranded
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You are correct. Just the HTC logo under the speaker.
Done.
T-Mobile 4g model bought.
Everything is ok. Actualy no real difference from sensation unbranded (technical specs), just only the T-Mo logo.
Thanks you all.
See you on Sensations subforum.
p.s. Time to read a lot about starting rooting, s-off , mods, roms and other things about this beauty.
There is a difference that is more than cosmetic and that as you already mentioned is the data bands. Where are you and what bands does your provider use for 3G/4G data?
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moto211 said:
There is a difference that is more than cosmetic and that as you already mentioned is the data bands. Where are you and what bands does your provider use for 3G/4G data?
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Bands are the same on both
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Bands are the same on both
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
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Really? They might be the same on the tmo and the bell mobility versions but the OP didn't mention bell mobility. And I could be mistaken, but doesn't the tmo version have different bands then say the unbranded european version?
moto211 said:
Really? They might be the same on the tmo and the bell mobility versions but the OP didn't mention bell mobility. And I could be mistaken, but doesn't the tmo version have different bands then say the unbranded european version?
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Bell and tmobile are different bands.
The bell version has support for 850/1900 wcdma.
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Bands are the same on both
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
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Sorry to raise this again, but, really? I bought a T-Mobile unlocked Sensation 4G, and on the website I bought it from (newaci.com) the UMTS bands were listed as 900, 1700, 2100. The box, however, had the following on it - 1700, 2100, 1900 (in that order). Now I am using this beauty on Wind Mobile, with is UMTS 1700, so that's fine, but what I'd like to ascertain is whether my phone will work AS 3G (that's crucial) on Bell or Rogers (they both use UMTS 1900 as 3G band).
I don't even know how I can check it. I have a Bell SIM, but as I ported my number, it is no longer able to log on to Bell network (and the plan that came with it didn't have data anyway). HOWEVER, when I put this Bell SIM card into the phone and ask it to search for WCDMA-only networks, it _does_ detect Bell network. But again, as my SIM is not registered at Bell anymore, I cannot register and so I cannot check properly.
Thanks for clarifying in advance.
EDIT: I just checked newayci.com, and it used to be listed on newayci.com as 900-1700-2100 two weeks ago, but now they've corrected the specs to 1900-1700-2100. _However_, again, in the carrier chart them guys claim that the phone, as far as mobile internet browsing is concerned, will only work as 2G on Rogers, and that it won't work on Bell at all - which doesn't add up at all, if UMTS 1900 band is really in the phone (for both Bell and Rogers use it for 3G).
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Sorry to raise this again, but, really? I bought a T-Mobile unlocked Sensation 4G, and on the website I bought it from (newaci.com) the UMTS bands were listed as 900, 1700, 2100. The box, however, had the following on it - 1700, 2100, 1900 (in that order). Now I am using this beauty on Wind Mobile, with is UMTS 1700, so that's fine, but what I'd like to ascertain is whether my phone will work AS 3G (that's crucial) on Bell or Rogers (they both use UMTS 1900 as 3G band).
I don't even know how I can check it. I have a Bell SIM, but as I ported my number, it is no longer able to log on to Bell network (and the plan that came with it didn't have data anyway). HOWEVER, when I put this Bell SIM card into the phone and ask it to search for WCDMA-only networks, it _does_ detect Bell network. But again, as my SIM is not registered at Bell anymore, I cannot register and so I cannot check properly.
Thanks for clarifying in advance.
EDIT: I just checked newayci.com, and it used to be listed on newayci.com as 900-1700-2100 two weeks ago, but now they've corrected the specs to 1900-1700-2100. _However_, again, in the carrier chart them guys claim that the phone, as far as mobile internet browsing is concerned, will only work as 2G on Rogers, and that it won't work on Bell at all - which doesn't add up at all, if UMTS 1900 band is really in the phone (for both Bell and Rogers use it for 3G).
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I meant that Sensation 4G and unbranded Sensation have the same bands. The Bell version has different bands from both
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Hello, I recently bought the HTC sensation in asia but now that Im back in Canada, I put in my telus Sim card and I get no signal from anywhere. I tried putting in a rogers sim card in and it works fine. So does Telus not support the sensation?
Your 3g band might not match telus. Reason why you are getting a signal in Rogers is because rogers has the old GSM system..so you are stuck with a Gsm signal only. 3g bands are different than the tmobile and Bell sensation. Sorry dude.
does that mean I cant use 3g in canada no matter what? ;(
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does that mean I cant use 3g in canada no matter what? ;(
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You can use asian sensation with wind mobile and mobilicity too, I think. I have the asian sensation with 3G and HSPA working with wind mobile.
Thanks, I guess Ill be heading down wind today.
Hey guys I came across a few brand new in box Fido One s's for about 400$ each
Would this model be compatible with the custom roms in this forum?
I was also considering the Canadian Wind SGS 3 but there is practically no development for that phone since it has different baseband than the T-mobile version
If the fido variant is compatible with the custom roms I might just have to flag down the first seller; tell them to shut up and take my money!!
he he
I bought a Fido version a week ago on Kijiji for 400 to use on Wind. An amazing deal for sure. I thought I would want an S3 but the price, $650, and the size were too much for me. Haven't regretted it one bit and am running CM9 on it. Can't wait for Jelly Bean.
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Definitely a good deal! (for those looking for a One S........)
The Fido One S is compatible to all custom ROMs and, once unlocked, run fine on AWS bands (T-Mobile, Wind, Mobilicity, Videotron).
Wait, the Fido One S supports AWS bands? Do all Canadian One S'? I did not know that One S' were pentaband.
ShensMobile said:
Wait, the Fido One S supports AWS bands? Do all Canadian One S'? I did not know that One S' were pentaband.
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I don't think its Pentaband and I can't test it.
But I can use my Videotron (AWS) SIM in it and it show Videotron unlike other incompatible phones that go on Rogers' network since Videotron don't have GSM antennas. (I don't have data on this account tho)
There was a thread about this last month and it listed all Canadian FCC numbers and supported bands.
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Yes. As I said in my previous post.
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ShensMobile said:
Wait, the Fido One S supports AWS bands? Do all Canadian One S'? I did not know that One S' were pentaband.
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Yea. As I said in my previous post.
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what!
Rodsky11 said:
Yea. As I said in my previous post.
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I can't get mine to work on mobilicity, i've got a fido htc one s that i picked up for a whopping $250... i am pissed.
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Yea. As I said in my previous post.
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Here's a link showing the specs. See for your self.
http://www.telusmobility.com/en/ON/htc_one_s/index.shtml
century mblower
The One S from Fido works on Wind for sure, it's what I use. I have also used a mobilicity sim in it. I unlocked it, set the APNs and it was good to go.
tempted said:
I can't get mine to work on mobilicity, i've got a fido htc one s that i picked up for a whopping $250... i am pissed.
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I have same problem as you.
I have a VirginMobile HTC One S (FCC ID: PJ40110) which is penta-band and includes AWS. The phone is SIM unlocked and was successfully tested with Bell, Rogers and Wind. IT DOES NOT WORK WITH MOBILICITY.
Looking for some ideas. Would re-flashing radio only help? TIA.
mike.tfc said:
I have same problem as you.
I have a VirginMobile HTC One S (FCC ID: PJ40110) which is penta-band and includes AWS. The phone is SIM unlocked and was successfully tested with Bell, Rogers and Wind. IT DOES NOT WORK WITH MOBILICITY.
Looking for some ideas. Would re-flashing radio only help? TIA.
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According to the Virgin Mobile site, it's a triband 3G device, which excludes the 1700mhz frequency that Mobilicity uses. I just purchased a Mobilicity one. Got it unlocked and it works fine on Rogers. I'm guessing Mobilicity got the same version as T-Mobile in the US which includes the 850mhz frequency.
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I can't get mine to work on mobilicity, i've got a fido htc one s that i picked up for a whopping $250... i am pissed.
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Wirelessgirl said:
According to the Virgin Mobile site, it's a triband 3G device, which excludes the 1700mhz frequency that Mobilicity uses. I just purchased a Mobilicity one. Got it unlocked and it works fine on Rogers. I'm guessing Mobilicity got the same version as T-Mobile in the US which includes the 850mhz frequency.
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The facts that it works fine on WIND and the same FCC ID as T-mobie phones clearly show that it is an AWS phone. According to the HTC letter posted on thread 1673378, Mobilicity could lock AWS bands for unlocked phones.
mike.tfc said:
The facts that it works fine on WIND and the same FCC ID as T-mobie phones clearly show that it is an AWS phone. According to the HTC letter posted on thread 1673378, Mobilicity could lock AWS bands for unlocked phones.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Mobilicity did that. IMO, Mobilicity is worse than the Big 3. I have had my fair share of problems with Mobi.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Mobilicity did that. IMO, Mobilicity is worse than the Big 3. I have had my fair share of problems with Mobi.
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I need to apologize for the false alarm.
I have tried again with an active Mobilicity SIM card and I can confirm that the Virgin branded, SIM unlocked, HTC One S it is working indeed. It will not authenticate automatically but if you do a network search and select the network manually it will work. I've noticed the same behavior on WIND as well.
Thank you everyone.
mike.tfc said:
I need to apologize for the false alarm.
I have tried again with an active Mobilicity SIM card and I can confirm that the Virgin branded, SIM unlocked, HTC One S it is working indeed. It will not authenticate automatically but if you do a network search and select the network manually it will work. I've noticed the same behavior on WIND as well.
Thank you everyone.
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I'm glad you got it working! I was certain the One S worked with all 3G carriers. The Virgin Mobile site is a bit confusing though. When I popped my Rogers sim in, I just had to put the Rogers APN in. I will evidentally pop my Moblicity sim back in since I already paid for the first month. I just wanted to make sure everything was working well on the Rogers network.