Hi everyone,
Wondering what apps people use for wireless tether that hide data usage from carriers. I currently use PDANET and also have wireless tether installed, but are there settings in wireless tether I can set so it will hide the usage? I did find some hits from other devices that had specific changed to the wireless tether source to do this, but nothing for the Charge. Any suggestions? Thank you!
Tom
It's impossible. YOU CANT HIDE FROM THE COMPANY MAN!
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AFAIK, if you're running the Gingerbread leak, hiding your usage is pretty much impossible.
crap, thanks for the info guys. Can't hide from the man
yes you can
You can hide man just keep diggin and you will see.
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crap, thanks for the info guys. Can't hide from the man
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You worry too much!
Verizon can tell when your tethering, can't really hide it, just don't go crazy
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ronot said:
Verizon can tell when your tethering, can't really hide it, just don't go crazy
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No they can't. They can only see your traffic-for instance, logging on to Xbox Live will raise some suspicion because it wouldn't make sense for a phone to be logging in. Just don't use ridiculous amounts of data and don't go to any stupid sites.
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No they can't. They can only see your traffic-for instance, logging on to Xbox Live will raise some suspicion because it wouldn't make sense for a phone to be logging in. Just don't use ridiculous amounts of data and don't go to any stupid sites.
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Actually, it shouldn't be too hard for them to capture a packet and check the headers, which should tell them if the traffic is valid phone traffic or tether traffic. That is unless your tether software is re-shaping packets that flow through it.
But with all of their customers as long as you don't stand out, they won't look
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No they can't. They can only see your traffic-for instance, logging on to Xbox Live will raise some suspicion because it wouldn't make sense for a phone to be logging in. Just don't use ridiculous amounts of data and don't go to any stupid sites.
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If they want to, they can tell when you're tethering and when you aren't, regardless of how good the app you're using claims to be.
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But with all of their customers as long as you don't stand out, they won't look
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That would assume that they have individual people scanning packets, rather than a piece of software monitoring packets and throwing flags. If you have software watching information, it doesn't matter how many sources it's coming from.
Well just set up my tether at the airport. Guess I will see when the bill comes it.
I have been tethering since I got my first incredible and haven't seen anything bad come of it, and I'm torrenting blu rays, on psn, streaming video etc.
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Right now i. Am up to 41gigs and I used 34 last month (netflix and playing swtor and downloading stuff)
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icebear8 said:
Right now i. Am up to 41gigs and I used 34 last month (netflix and playing swtor and downloading stuff)
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So far in 3 months I've used 165 GB. I do most of the bandwidth heavy stuff at night after 11 PM or 12 AM.
The thing is Verizon really doesn't care what you do. If a tower is congested they will throttle you, but that almost never happens except during peak hours. So if you're torrenting at 7 PM, your data may be (very temporarily) throttled to less than 1 mbps. But wait until 10 or 11 PM and you can consume data to your heart's delight.
Verizon's network is relatively robust (not nearly as good as European carriers though), so they could easily offer unlimited LTE to everyone, with throttling only during peak hours (4-10 PM). They don't do it though because they'd rather sell you 22 GB for $180, or just catch people with overage charges.
Yep I use all my data during night (10pm-6am) I work at that time and use my laptop at work with my phone. Verizon never said anything to me or slowed my connection
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Is there any way for me to disguise my usage so they can not see that I'm tethering or am I busted and should give up?
Thanks!
jdbeitz said:
Is there any way for me to disguise my usage so they can not see that I'm tethering or am I busted and should give up?
Thanks!
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How much data were you using?
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You do the crime, you pay the time.
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How much data were you using, what APN, and in what location?
Switch to sprint?
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Is there any way for me to disguise my usage so they can not see that I'm tethering or am I busted and should give up?
Thanks!
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Hard to do! The data usage patterns of a mobile device n that of a computer vary a lot. The bandwidth used within a period of time is a sure shot indicator of the same. Best would be to get a home internet.
It seems like they are wising up --- or determined some new way of detecting it. Give us more information.
I also tether a lot and now im concerned! I was just discussing this on the Captivate forum. Another user recently got caught: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1269283
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How much data were you using, what APN, and in what location?
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Im using the s7 rom with the new ki modem. So whatever the default apn is for that.
I've used 8gb this week
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I am not sure if they do it off data usage or mac address. I know when I stream Siruis radio that is uses the same data that my laptop does. I have hit 5mb of usage in a month with I play about 6-7 hours of Siruis each day at work.
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Im using the s7 rom with the new ki modem. So whatever the default apn is for that.
I've used 8gb this week
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8GB this WEEK???? Give up and pay for tethering. There's no way you're going to be able to play that off as phone usage.
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AT&T has the ability to do deep packet inspection to determine what OS is sending the packets - there are some fingerprints they can use to tell that it isn't an Android device.
This is a resource-intensive process so they normally don't do it.
But if you use 8GB in a WEEK, you can be sure they're going to investigate if that usage actually came from just the phone.
So I should be OK tethering for my kids infuses when we are away from wifi?
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carhigh said:
So I should be OK tethering for my kids infuses when we are away from wifi?
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How did you reach that conclusion from this thread?
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So I should be OK tethering for my kids infuses when we are away from wifi?
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Maybe. I haven't gotten a nastygram yet and I tether my tablet all the time, but that's it.
I'm responsible about data usage though - even with moderate tethering I've never gone more than 500-700 MB per month.
I haven't gotten anything yet either (knock on wood) but I did get one of those "you are in the top 5%" emails this month. So I will be watching my usage a lot more considering multiple, members on various forms here are recently reporting this from AT&T.
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OMG. 8 gigs in a week. Lulz. How? No torrents on teathering. My 2 cents
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I know this seems like a joke, but really, switch to Sprint. Unlimited means UNLIMITED, on 3G or 4G (although you're much safer tethering on 4G since they don't give a damn how you use it). That, and we have the GSII.
All carriers have a teathering plan in the works, even sprint. Soon teathering will only work with the proper plan. People have taken this for granted and abused the unlimited data which was not designed for 8gb a week usage. I know that is extreme. Think about it. The unlimited was made when the average person had no idea a phone could do it. Hell I ran my whole shop off a teathered connection to my tilt when our internet went down. But that was rare. Now every kid in the world has a phone that can do it, do they use it responsibily? Nope they are streaming movies in class, music.....you get the point lol. I can't blame the carriers. As more and more people live their lives with their faces buried in a phone or tablet, the data network that runs these device will need to be changed from what we are used to. With the new system you will not be able to hide what device is using the connection. So now its time to man/woman up and either get home internet or pay for the teathering.
I got the email ....i dont tether.
I tethered 1 time last week to test functionality on gtgs new thrill rom....
Is there maybe an apn issue where they think i am tethering when i am not????
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Tethering a infuse thru a infuse would make it look as though I'm not tethering at all, no? No Pc or different operating system involved.
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I've been testing... Although the newest 3.1 Beta 7 may have fixed the need to reboot between tether sessions, 3.0 pre-12 Experimental is still better. Not only does it not have the reboot issue, it also gives me 4G speed on tether. The latest Beta has me limited to 3G.
Although I feel the user opinions available are better in Beta 7, in my opinion, WiFi Tether 3.0 pre-12 Experimental is the best application available for EP4D tethering at this time. No reboots + 4G tethering speed.
Opinions?
That's what I use. It rocks...when I don't have data drops. I've tried other versions but they were problematic, even though speed was marginally faster on newer builds.
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nycghost said:
That's what I use. It rocks...when I don't have data drops. I've tried other versions but they were problematic, even though speed was marginally faster on newer builds.
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My speed on Beta 7 was less than HALF the speed I got on pre-12, FWIW.
I use Open Garden, free off the market. I am on the road all day every weekday in my truck and I never have any issues with it. My laptop is online all day long ...
Ok, stupid question. Are these alternatives that bypass Verizon charging for wi-fi hot spot?
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Ok, stupid question. Are these alternatives that bypass Verizon charging for wi-fi hot spot?
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Yup. Since the phone is capable of becoming a wireless access point, being rooted means you're able to do it. Whereas, unrooted, you need Verizon's permission.
Honestly, it's BS. I pay for my data plan (ha, OK, I'm unlimited) and should be allowed to use that data as I see fit. If I'm paying $30 extra per month of what amounts to "internet services" who cares if it's on my phone or on my iPad?
Aside from Sprint and the smaller carriers (Metro PCS, etc), all of these companies are greedy like Wall St.
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I use Open Garden, free off the market. I am on the road all day every weekday in my truck and I never have any issues with it. My laptop is online all day long ...
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I've tried out what seems to be all the available wifi tether apps. can't tell you how many "pre" appsI've tried. I agree Open Garden is the best app, minus the fact encryption doesn't work.
3.0 pre 12 works great but is a complete battery drainer.
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Yup. Since the phone is capable of becoming a wireless access point, being rooted means you're able to do it. Whereas, unrooted, you need Verizon's permission.
Honestly, it's BS. I pay for my data plan (ha, OK, I'm unlimited) and should be allowed to use that data as I see fit. If I'm paying $30 extra per month of what amounts to "internet services" who cares if it's on my phone or on my iPad?
Aside from Sprint and the smaller carriers (Metro PCS, etc), all of these companies are greedy like Wall St.
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Rooted you say, for people who aren't rooted this fine tethering program has been released. It's a USB tether but hey, not everyone is rooted and this works perfect. http://www.bgr.com/2012/01/03/clock...tethering-to-android-phones-no-root-required/
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I've been testing... Although the newest 3.1 Beta 7 may have fixed the need to reboot between tether sessions, 3.0 pre-12 Experimental is still better. Not only does it not have the reboot issue, it also gives me 4G speed on tether. The latest Beta has me limited to 3G.
Although I feel the user opinions available are better in Beta 7, in my opinion, WiFi Tether 3.0 pre-12 Experimental is the best application available for EP4D tethering at this time. No reboots + 4G tethering speed.
Opinions?
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Would you happen to have the .apk for 3.0 pre-12?
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DirgeExtinction said:
Would you happen to have the .apk for 3.0 pre-12?
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http://code.google.com/p/android-wi...tail?name=wifi_tether_v3_0-pre12.apk&can=4&q=
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http://code.google.com/p/android-wi...tail?name=wifi_tether_v3_0-pre12.apk&can=4&q=
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Thanks
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I use barnacle wifi tether or wireless tether.
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Not sure if the one from svtp works on rooted devices but mine is not rooted and it works flawlessly! Every time! Best $6 I've spent on the market!
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3.0 pre-12 is the best version for me as well... love it.
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Not sure if the one from svtp works on rooted devices but mine is not rooted and it works flawlessly! Every time! Best $6 I've spent on the market!
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I'm rooted and it works fine for me, but I paid $10.
Id pay 20 for it!
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Running Liquid 3.2, Have an unlimited plan(grandfathered in). If i tether using an app (Open garden Wifi Tether" to my tablet will they know im tethering and charge me or and im still 007(as in in the clear)
Thanks!
From what I understand, they can't monitor what tethering app you are using. All they can see is that your data usage is going up. Depending on how much you use they may send you a notice about the dramatic increase. But screw them you just been downloading a lot of music, and YouTube videos. Lol
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mann75 said:
From what I understand, they can't monitor what tethering app you are using. All they can see is that your data usage is going up. Depending on how much you use they may send you a notice about the dramatic increase. But screw them you just been downloading a lot of music, and YouTube videos. Lol
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I hope so, I just installed a new radio on my TB, and now have 4G with 15mbps. Tethering to my new tablet is faster then i thought.. but i dont wanna pay for it =)
I only ask one thing...don't advise it or you'll kill it for the rest of us
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I only ask one thing...don't advise it or you'll kill it for the rest of us
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Ive been tethering since my OG, i just want to know if its free lol.
David522d said:
Ive been tethering since my OG, i just want to know if its free lol.
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The tethering apps are free, but the data being used depends on your data plan. if you have unlimited data then you have no worries. But if you are on a plan that has data limits be very mindful of how much you have been using.
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I tether to my xbox to watch Netflix last month I used 35 gigs. I also have unlimited data and they haven't said anything or slowed it down any
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I've used about 15gb at the most tethering to my ps3 and they never did anything to me. Unlimited plans rule.
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I didn't think a 3g signal would be able to handle a video game system online.
Is there any lag when playing?
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I get no lag on 3g. It's actually more laggy on 4g oddly enough. I think its the tethers fault but I haven't figured it out yet.
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I get no lag on 3g. It's actually more laggy on 4g oddly enough. I think its the tethers fault but I haven't figured it out yet.
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Wow would have never thought it would handle it. Good to know. Lol
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I actually got rid of my home Internet and just tether. Been almost a year now with no issues.
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I didn't think a 3g signal would be able to handle a video game system online.
Is there any lag when playing?
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I can't play online cuz its laggy well i can for a Lil bit then i get kicked. I need to be able to change my NAT settings to open Barnical tether has changeable NAT settings but I can't seem to get it to be open
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I can get 30mbps down while tethering, but my pings ANYWHERE are always like 100ms+, making gaming impossible.
So I did a quick search (phone searching is b never as good as on a computer) and didn't find much so I thought I'd ask... what's the difference between the two apps wireless tether and WiFi tether and which one works better on our phone?
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If you root your phone, you can use the built-in hotspot application.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801886
In regards to the two apps above, WiFi Tether worked very well for me before I patched the above.
gkrules said:
If you root your phone, you can use the built-in hotspot application.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801886
In regards to the two apps above, WiFi Tether worked very well for me before I patched the above.
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Im using Foxfi.....no root needed.
I'm using WiFi Tether and it works great.
I used FoxFi as well with good results.
taihard said:
So I did a quick search (phone searching is b never as good as on a computer) and didn't find much so I thought I'd ask... what's the difference between the two apps wireless tether and WiFi tether and which one works better on our phone?
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Only difference that I can tell is Wireless tether for Root Users doesn't work and Wifi Tether for Root Users does. They both look the same but the latter has an additional option to change device profile and switching that to Galaxy Nexus (CDMA/LTE) allows it to work.
Use the built in tether, they don't charge anymore, no app needed
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Use the built in tether, they don't charge anymore, no app needed
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They don't charge for tiered/share data plans... Speculation is they do charge for unlimited users.
We don't know what the op is on.
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I'm on unlimited and can't use the native tethering. It just gives the the same pop up window with a number to call to purchase it. Just sharing this as confirmation.....I worked around it.
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tank you...nice post
If I'm not mistaken from a convo with Mr Verizon Store Guy, they stopped charging for tethering because of the rediculous amount of workarounds for close to every device that render their paid service pointless.
However, I heard somewhere online theres a clause for abusing the network in you end user contract associated with fees, but I'm not sure and didn't look into it too much. I don't use it too much and am not worried about my limits (cue wifi), so it'd prolly be wise to check yourself.
Long story short: search around as there are a number of ways as previously outlined. But should you choose to go bananas and over indulge in torrents or roms via 3g/4g, be aware of a potential bill the size of congressional legislation. Tether responsibly as bandwidth is shared by all network users. Don't be THAT guy
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. Don't be THAT guy
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Lol, you mean that DB who has it in his avatar that he used over 100 gigs in a month??
I'm thinking Of increasing My cell package to LTE and tethering My laptop to My phone.
My current cell package Is 6G/month With the LTE it jumps to 10G/month. I typically use 6G on My cell and 2 to 3G at home per month
has anybody done this? if So can you offer some feedback and any pitfalls.
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All I could see is if you're flashing ROMs on your phone and it suddenly messes up then you can't go online to troubleshoot but if you don't flash on a daily basis then everything should be fine. I personally haven't done tethering on a regular basis (even though my plan allows me to).
no I don't ever put custom ROMs
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FWIW, tethering kills your battery life. You use a fair bit of internet at home, but not really a "power user" per se, so you're kind of in the gray area where this type of thing could work for you but still isn't a great idea IMO.
Sounds like a good idea if it saves cash at the end of the month. At home I easily blow through 200 gigs per month, but if my usage resembled yours, I'd do it.
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FWIW, tethering kills your battery life. You use a fair bit of internet at home, but not really a "power user" per se, so you're kind of in the gray area where this type of thing could work for you but still isn't a great idea IMO.
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Ya I'm thinking that's gonna be a con. but the phone will basically be plugged in once I'm home. do you thing because I'll be on LTE for a prolonged time it will affect the phone, because Of increased heat
Ya I'm right on that edge. that's why this Is still in the analysis phase.
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Sounds like a good idea if it saves cash at the end of the month. At home I easily blow through 200 gigs per month, but if my usage resembled yours, I'd do it.
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200G/month. dude what are you downloading?
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Lots, and lots, of ...... jk.
Mostly TV! Netflix, hulu, crackle, youtube. Still have the og dvr but I hardly touch it anymore. Always have something streaming. I am fearful of imminent tiered data, hopefully Time Warner holds out.
My dad is doing this its saving him a lot of money and his lte is actually faster then his old network, the only downfall is make sure you plug it in because it drains your battery quick.
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My dad is doing this its saving him a lot of money and his lte is actually faster then his old network, the only downfall is make sure you plug it in because it drains your battery quick.
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If you use pdanet to tether it will charge while you are tethering....
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seanci said:
My dad is doing this its saving him a lot of money and his lte is actually faster then his old network, the only downfall is make sure you plug it in because it drains your battery quick.
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My savings would only be about $22/month but I'd get faster sppeds. My home connection is 6Mbps my friends are getting 20 to 40Mbps on their LTE phones.
The only thing holding me back is what if my needs change and I need more internet at home? Especially now that winter is arrving a lot more time indoors/at home.
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If you use pdanet to tether it will charge while you are tethering....
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what is pdanet? I just googled it and it's just an app that let's you tether and we can already do that stock with our Skyrockets. I wanted to tether using wifi very rare I'll use the USB plug, because I find plugging into the computer takes forever to charge.
Jamolah said:
I'm thinking Of increasing My cell package to LTE and tethering My laptop to My phone.
My current cell package Is 6G/month With the LTE it jumps to 10G/month. I typically use 6G on My cell and 2 to 3G at home per month
has anybody done this? if So can you offer some feedback and any pitfalls.
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Who's your provider if you got 6 gigs and with LTE 10? AT&T doesn't have those plans.
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specter07 said:
Who's your provider if you got 6 gigs and with LTE 10? AT&T doesn't have those plans.
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I'm With ROGERS (in Canada)
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