So I did a quick search (phone searching is b never as good as on a computer) and didn't find much so I thought I'd ask... what's the difference between the two apps wireless tether and WiFi tether and which one works better on our phone?
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If you root your phone, you can use the built-in hotspot application.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801886
In regards to the two apps above, WiFi Tether worked very well for me before I patched the above.
gkrules said:
If you root your phone, you can use the built-in hotspot application.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801886
In regards to the two apps above, WiFi Tether worked very well for me before I patched the above.
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Im using Foxfi.....no root needed.
I'm using WiFi Tether and it works great.
I used FoxFi as well with good results.
taihard said:
So I did a quick search (phone searching is b never as good as on a computer) and didn't find much so I thought I'd ask... what's the difference between the two apps wireless tether and WiFi tether and which one works better on our phone?
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Only difference that I can tell is Wireless tether for Root Users doesn't work and Wifi Tether for Root Users does. They both look the same but the latter has an additional option to change device profile and switching that to Galaxy Nexus (CDMA/LTE) allows it to work.
Use the built in tether, they don't charge anymore, no app needed
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Use the built in tether, they don't charge anymore, no app needed
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They don't charge for tiered/share data plans... Speculation is they do charge for unlimited users.
We don't know what the op is on.
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I'm on unlimited and can't use the native tethering. It just gives the the same pop up window with a number to call to purchase it. Just sharing this as confirmation.....I worked around it.
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tank you...nice post
If I'm not mistaken from a convo with Mr Verizon Store Guy, they stopped charging for tethering because of the rediculous amount of workarounds for close to every device that render their paid service pointless.
However, I heard somewhere online theres a clause for abusing the network in you end user contract associated with fees, but I'm not sure and didn't look into it too much. I don't use it too much and am not worried about my limits (cue wifi), so it'd prolly be wise to check yourself.
Long story short: search around as there are a number of ways as previously outlined. But should you choose to go bananas and over indulge in torrents or roms via 3g/4g, be aware of a potential bill the size of congressional legislation. Tether responsibly as bandwidth is shared by all network users. Don't be THAT guy
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. Don't be THAT guy
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Lol, you mean that DB who has it in his avatar that he used over 100 gigs in a month??
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Few more days now and the mobile hotspost will end.. now my question is. what is the best tethering?
i am rooted and using dasbamf 1.6.3
is there any way to patch the mobile hotspot? i have the barnacle and i preferred the native tethering on TB.
Wireless tether for root users... Perhaps
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It would be better to just pay for it..... Unauthorized tether is the #1 reason for locked bootloaders and such IMHO.
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mcmillanje said:
It would be better to just pay for it..... Unauthorized tether is the #1 reason for locked bootloaders and such IMHO.
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What does tethering have anything to do with the bootloader?
mcmillanje said:
It would be better to just pay for it..... Unauthorized tether is the #1 reason for locked bootloaders and such IMHO.
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LMFAO!!!! Seriously! Wow. The hardware manufacturers that create locked bootloaders could care less about wireless tethering. The dumb pipe cell companies are the only ones that care about it. The locked bootloaders are so you cant screw with their bloated overlay. IMO.
"wireless tether"
I think its no longer on the market. Recently got removed. If u PM me I will send it to you in an email though
You can just download it from their site here.
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
As long as you're rooted you can install it from there by going to the download tab and downloading 2.0.7 or any of the stable build.
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Should be available from the market if you turn on airplane mode, then re-enable WiFi. It is the wireless carriers that are causing gathering apps to be filtered from the market, this should work around it, though.
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Depends on what you are doing. Overall if you are just tethering to your computer PDAnet is your best bet. Xbox or PS3 (Ha if they ever get their network back) I would stay with Wireless Tether for root users.
miketoasty said:
Depends on what you are doing. Overall if you are just tethering to your computer PDAnet is your best bet. Xbox or PS3 (Ha if they ever get their network back) I would stay with Wireless Tether for root users.
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Or you could google and see what everyone else has done on xda before you:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...t=clnk&gl=us&lr=lang_en&source=www.google.com
http://www.google.com/search?q=PdaN...um=50&lr=lang_en&ft=i&cr=&safe=off&tbs=,qdr:y
Note that all of the info is for 3g only phones and may or may not work 100% on ours.
They will be charging for the wireless hotspot app for sure. Does anyone know for sure if wired tether will remain free? I have heard "opinions", but nothing credible. VZ wouldn't tell me either.
turbosrrgood said:
They will be charging for the wireless hotspot app for sure. Does anyone know for sure if wired tether will remain free? I have heard "opinions", but nothing credible. VZ wouldn't tell me either.
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Nope. All tethering will be paid unless you root to get around it.
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Nope. All tethering will be paid unless you root to get around it.
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If that's the case, has anyone been able to get wired tether (better anyway, data remains active on the device) to work? The htc tethering app seems to interfere.
Wireless tether works fine.
When I used "wireless tether for root users" my data was still active? I was able to make calls and reply to an email while being connected with a laptop.
I don't use it very often which is why I can't justify the extra cost per month. I had purchased "tether" while it was 50% for my blackberry for the same reason. They have that for android now to so that is an option for people.
Swyped from my Thunderbolt
If 4g speed can stay the same for the other tethering device. you can almost cancel internet at home, unless you play games
Is that like a cordless extension cord?
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"wireless tether"
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If 4g speed can stay the same for the other tethering device. you can almost cancel internet at home, unless you play games
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This is the sort of logic that will cause unlimited data plans to skyrocket in price or even be abandoned.
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You can just download it from their site here.
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
As long as you're rooted you can install it from there by going to the download tab and downloading 2.0.7 or any of the stable build.
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Avg has this as a virus
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You can just download it from their site here.
As long as you're rooted you can install it from there by going to the download tab and downloading 2.0.7 or any of the stable build.
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Cant go wrong with that advice!
Android central forums has a guy saying Verizon told him the free hotspot was extended.
Be nice if it is true, but you know how these things go.
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Hi everyone,
Wondering what apps people use for wireless tether that hide data usage from carriers. I currently use PDANET and also have wireless tether installed, but are there settings in wireless tether I can set so it will hide the usage? I did find some hits from other devices that had specific changed to the wireless tether source to do this, but nothing for the Charge. Any suggestions? Thank you!
Tom
It's impossible. YOU CANT HIDE FROM THE COMPANY MAN!
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AFAIK, if you're running the Gingerbread leak, hiding your usage is pretty much impossible.
crap, thanks for the info guys. Can't hide from the man
yes you can
You can hide man just keep diggin and you will see.
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crap, thanks for the info guys. Can't hide from the man
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You worry too much!
Verizon can tell when your tethering, can't really hide it, just don't go crazy
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ronot said:
Verizon can tell when your tethering, can't really hide it, just don't go crazy
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No they can't. They can only see your traffic-for instance, logging on to Xbox Live will raise some suspicion because it wouldn't make sense for a phone to be logging in. Just don't use ridiculous amounts of data and don't go to any stupid sites.
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kvswim said:
No they can't. They can only see your traffic-for instance, logging on to Xbox Live will raise some suspicion because it wouldn't make sense for a phone to be logging in. Just don't use ridiculous amounts of data and don't go to any stupid sites.
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Actually, it shouldn't be too hard for them to capture a packet and check the headers, which should tell them if the traffic is valid phone traffic or tether traffic. That is unless your tether software is re-shaping packets that flow through it.
But with all of their customers as long as you don't stand out, they won't look
Charged up post!
kvswim said:
No they can't. They can only see your traffic-for instance, logging on to Xbox Live will raise some suspicion because it wouldn't make sense for a phone to be logging in. Just don't use ridiculous amounts of data and don't go to any stupid sites.
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If they want to, they can tell when you're tethering and when you aren't, regardless of how good the app you're using claims to be.
piizzadude said:
But with all of their customers as long as you don't stand out, they won't look
Charged up post!
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That would assume that they have individual people scanning packets, rather than a piece of software monitoring packets and throwing flags. If you have software watching information, it doesn't matter how many sources it's coming from.
Well just set up my tether at the airport. Guess I will see when the bill comes it.
I have been tethering since I got my first incredible and haven't seen anything bad come of it, and I'm torrenting blu rays, on psn, streaming video etc.
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Right now i. Am up to 41gigs and I used 34 last month (netflix and playing swtor and downloading stuff)
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icebear8 said:
Right now i. Am up to 41gigs and I used 34 last month (netflix and playing swtor and downloading stuff)
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So far in 3 months I've used 165 GB. I do most of the bandwidth heavy stuff at night after 11 PM or 12 AM.
The thing is Verizon really doesn't care what you do. If a tower is congested they will throttle you, but that almost never happens except during peak hours. So if you're torrenting at 7 PM, your data may be (very temporarily) throttled to less than 1 mbps. But wait until 10 or 11 PM and you can consume data to your heart's delight.
Verizon's network is relatively robust (not nearly as good as European carriers though), so they could easily offer unlimited LTE to everyone, with throttling only during peak hours (4-10 PM). They don't do it though because they'd rather sell you 22 GB for $180, or just catch people with overage charges.
Yep I use all my data during night (10pm-6am) I work at that time and use my laptop at work with my phone. Verizon never said anything to me or slowed my connection
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Is there any way for me to disguise my usage so they can not see that I'm tethering or am I busted and should give up?
Thanks!
jdbeitz said:
Is there any way for me to disguise my usage so they can not see that I'm tethering or am I busted and should give up?
Thanks!
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How much data were you using?
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You do the crime, you pay the time.
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How much data were you using, what APN, and in what location?
Switch to sprint?
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jdbeitz said:
Is there any way for me to disguise my usage so they can not see that I'm tethering or am I busted and should give up?
Thanks!
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Hard to do! The data usage patterns of a mobile device n that of a computer vary a lot. The bandwidth used within a period of time is a sure shot indicator of the same. Best would be to get a home internet.
It seems like they are wising up --- or determined some new way of detecting it. Give us more information.
I also tether a lot and now im concerned! I was just discussing this on the Captivate forum. Another user recently got caught: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1269283
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How much data were you using, what APN, and in what location?
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Im using the s7 rom with the new ki modem. So whatever the default apn is for that.
I've used 8gb this week
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I am not sure if they do it off data usage or mac address. I know when I stream Siruis radio that is uses the same data that my laptop does. I have hit 5mb of usage in a month with I play about 6-7 hours of Siruis each day at work.
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Im using the s7 rom with the new ki modem. So whatever the default apn is for that.
I've used 8gb this week
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8GB this WEEK???? Give up and pay for tethering. There's no way you're going to be able to play that off as phone usage.
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AT&T has the ability to do deep packet inspection to determine what OS is sending the packets - there are some fingerprints they can use to tell that it isn't an Android device.
This is a resource-intensive process so they normally don't do it.
But if you use 8GB in a WEEK, you can be sure they're going to investigate if that usage actually came from just the phone.
So I should be OK tethering for my kids infuses when we are away from wifi?
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carhigh said:
So I should be OK tethering for my kids infuses when we are away from wifi?
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How did you reach that conclusion from this thread?
carhigh said:
So I should be OK tethering for my kids infuses when we are away from wifi?
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Maybe. I haven't gotten a nastygram yet and I tether my tablet all the time, but that's it.
I'm responsible about data usage though - even with moderate tethering I've never gone more than 500-700 MB per month.
I haven't gotten anything yet either (knock on wood) but I did get one of those "you are in the top 5%" emails this month. So I will be watching my usage a lot more considering multiple, members on various forms here are recently reporting this from AT&T.
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OMG. 8 gigs in a week. Lulz. How? No torrents on teathering. My 2 cents
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I know this seems like a joke, but really, switch to Sprint. Unlimited means UNLIMITED, on 3G or 4G (although you're much safer tethering on 4G since they don't give a damn how you use it). That, and we have the GSII.
All carriers have a teathering plan in the works, even sprint. Soon teathering will only work with the proper plan. People have taken this for granted and abused the unlimited data which was not designed for 8gb a week usage. I know that is extreme. Think about it. The unlimited was made when the average person had no idea a phone could do it. Hell I ran my whole shop off a teathered connection to my tilt when our internet went down. But that was rare. Now every kid in the world has a phone that can do it, do they use it responsibily? Nope they are streaming movies in class, music.....you get the point lol. I can't blame the carriers. As more and more people live their lives with their faces buried in a phone or tablet, the data network that runs these device will need to be changed from what we are used to. With the new system you will not be able to hide what device is using the connection. So now its time to man/woman up and either get home internet or pay for the teathering.
I got the email ....i dont tether.
I tethered 1 time last week to test functionality on gtgs new thrill rom....
Is there maybe an apn issue where they think i am tethering when i am not????
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Tethering a infuse thru a infuse would make it look as though I'm not tethering at all, no? No Pc or different operating system involved.
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From the good folk over at TmoNews. I changed over via T-Mobile Chat. If you're paying for a 5 or 10 GB plan, might as well add this option. T-Mobile charges $15 to use mobile hotspots and they don't give you any extra data.
I've use the feature with my tablet and was never charged but just in case...
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/01/t-mo...motional-plans-on-january-25th/#disqus_thread
I thought we already had wifi hotspot?
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On any romthat is based on cm has wifi hotspot.
I'm almost positive 2.3.3 roms have it as well, weapon had it for me.
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Okay...
Hey Moe, Larry and Curly! Did you guys bother to read the story on the other side of the link?
Here's the skinny - T-Mobile started charging $14.99 a month for you to use mobile hot spots. The promotion gives you FREE mobile hot spots. And no, I'm not talking about the app.
Hey knows nothing about anything and is for some reason rude, I tether quite often and don't have any extra charges....
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mt3g said:
Hey knows nothing about anything and is for some reason rude, I tether quite often and don't have any extra charges....
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I agree. He doesn't know that wifi tethering is free anyway via practically every custom rom.
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Hey knows nothing about anything and is for some reason rude, I tether quite often and don't have any extra charges....
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Do you know what a T-Mobile hotspot is?
https://selfcare.hotspot.t-mobile.com/services_about.do
It has nothing to do with tethering your phone or even using your data plan. It's actually the opposite, it allows you to connect to a broadband network called "T-Mobile HotSpot".
Ya but we have tether hotspot on our phones meaning my friends tablet works places I am at cause I enable my phone to be a device to connect to via wifi.
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Actually...
1) Yes, you can tether your t-mobile device.
2) Yes, you can do it without paying t-mobile.
HOWEVER
3) If you do it heavily, they will send you a message complaining, and telling you that if you want to continue, you'll need to pay $14.99
I received that message last month... to date they haven't cut off my tethering.. however, technically, they do charge for the service, even though it works without paying.
but...
4) I don't know if they will actually cut anyone off - I wasn't cut off, but YMMV
And, yes, they are now offering a free add-on now that allows you to legitimately tether without paying...
However "to protect revenue stream" they aren't offering it proactively, it's supposed to be offered as a save feature if someone is wanting to cancel.
mt3g said:
Ya but we have tether hotspot on our phones meaning my friends tablet works places I am at cause I enable my phone to be a device to connect to via wifi.
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What your talking about is using sharing your data plan.
"T-Mobile HotSpot" is a service. If you go to a restaurant and scan wireless networks there will be a "T-Mobile HotSpot" and you can connect to it and now you have broadband internet that doesn't count towards your data plan.
I got that bit lol. I guess the difference is more important to some then me.
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Quote from their Add. "Smartphone Mobile Hotspot provides the ability to share a Smartphone's 4G connection and is normally a $14.99 value." Which would be Tethering & portable hotspot in the phones settings.
Just got it activated on my existing 5gb plan. Thanks!
I wonder if you can qualify if you have unlimited data, they would probably force me to choose the 5 or 10th and give that up. I already pay the 15$ a month for the hotspot...
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Going to have to see if I cab get this added to my account. Wifi tether was actually disabled on my account yesterday and I'm not even over limit.
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Is it possible to tether (use wifi hotspot) so that T-Mobile won't know that I am tethering? I have the "unlimited" 2GB per month data plan and would really like to tether without paying for the tethering option. Does anyone know if there is a 3rd party app or some other way around them knowing that I am tethering? I know there have been a couple threads about this but none gives a clear answer. Thanks!
ctowne said:
Is it possible to tether (use wifi hotspot) so that T-Mobile won't know that I am tethering? I have the "unlimited" 2GB per month data plan and would really like to tether without paying for the tethering option. Does anyone know if there is a 3rd party app or some other way around them knowing that I am tethering? I know there have been a couple threads about this but none gives a clear answer. Thanks!
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Root and install a ROM then use the built in tethering with the ROM. Carriers won't know you're tethering but it will show them that you're using a lot of data
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creglenn said:
Root and install a ROM then use the built in tethering with the ROM. Carriers won't know you're tethering but it will show them that you're using a lot of data
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This. I tether from time to time and they've never said anything to me or done anything.
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Twice now I have had trouble with tethering with a t mobile website coming up on my computer saying that I need to pay for the tethering option. Reboot phone reboot computer problem solved.
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creglenn said:
Root and install a ROM then use the built in tethering with the ROM. Carriers won't know you're tethering but it will show them that you're using a lot of data
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So I just have to be rooted and that's it? I'm on the stock 2.3.4 LG and it is rooted so I should be all set?
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ctowne said:
So I just have to be rooted and that's it? I'm on the stock 2.3.4 LG and it is rooted so I should be all set?
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I use it all the time. No issues for me.
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Ok thanks guys!
I think they were saying you'd need a custom ROM?
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I actually DID get fully blocked from Tethering back in January. They'd been warning me for 2 months when it happened. I had gone over my cap by quite a bit in December, if that makes a difference... crawling internet was better than no internet! Had received several warnings. Made user agent and other changes in my browser that was supposed to hide the activity, but they DID cut me off. Tethering stopped working completely.
Thankfully that was right at the time they were offering the free tethering add-on if you upgraded to 5gb data from 2gb so I called up and had them add that. I was already at 5gb, but I told them I'd be dropping my data if they didn't give me the tethering... Don't know if that is still offered.
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I actually DID get fully blocked from Tethering back in January. They'd been warning me for 2 months when it happened. I had gone over my cap by quite a bit in December, if that makes a difference... crawling internet was better than no internet! Had received several warnings. Made user agent and other changes in my browser that was supposed to hide the activity, but they DID cut me off. Tethering stopped working completely.
Thankfully that was right at the time they were offering the free tethering add-on if you upgraded to 5gb data from 2gb so I called up and had them add that. I was already at 5gb, but I told them I'd be dropping my data if they didn't give me the tethering... Don't know if that is still offered.
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Its still included with 5gb. I changed mine from 2gb to 5 last month because I'm not around wifi as much these days
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Well I won't use tethering a ton because I'm usually in wifi range. I got a Xoom off of craigslist last week and I don't feel like paying for Verizon 4G LTE so I figured I could attempt to tether with the G2x cuz I'm cheap
Lol you guys are making this way too complex for the OP. Just get OpenGarden or Barnacle Tether from the Play Store! Just have to be rooted.
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Lol you guys are making this way too complex for the OP. Just get OpenGarden or Barnacle Tether from the Play Store! Just have to be rooted.
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For some reason the wifi from both of those apps show up on my laptop but not on my xoom tablet. Any thoughts on why that would be?
ctowne said:
For some reason the wifi from both of those apps show up on my laptop but not on my xoom tablet. Any thoughts on why that would be?
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Some devices can't connect to an Ad-Hoc connection (which is what those apps create), like the PS3. Perhaps your tablet is like that too.
Ok thanks. I guess I'll just use the built in tethering app. I was using it yesterday for an hour or so and had no problems.