Is there any way for me to disguise my usage so they can not see that I'm tethering or am I busted and should give up?
Thanks!
jdbeitz said:
Is there any way for me to disguise my usage so they can not see that I'm tethering or am I busted and should give up?
Thanks!
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How much data were you using?
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How much data were you using, what APN, and in what location?
Switch to sprint?
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Is there any way for me to disguise my usage so they can not see that I'm tethering or am I busted and should give up?
Thanks!
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Hard to do! The data usage patterns of a mobile device n that of a computer vary a lot. The bandwidth used within a period of time is a sure shot indicator of the same. Best would be to get a home internet.
It seems like they are wising up --- or determined some new way of detecting it. Give us more information.
I also tether a lot and now im concerned! I was just discussing this on the Captivate forum. Another user recently got caught: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1269283
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How much data were you using, what APN, and in what location?
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Im using the s7 rom with the new ki modem. So whatever the default apn is for that.
I've used 8gb this week
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I am not sure if they do it off data usage or mac address. I know when I stream Siruis radio that is uses the same data that my laptop does. I have hit 5mb of usage in a month with I play about 6-7 hours of Siruis each day at work.
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Im using the s7 rom with the new ki modem. So whatever the default apn is for that.
I've used 8gb this week
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8GB this WEEK???? Give up and pay for tethering. There's no way you're going to be able to play that off as phone usage.
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AT&T has the ability to do deep packet inspection to determine what OS is sending the packets - there are some fingerprints they can use to tell that it isn't an Android device.
This is a resource-intensive process so they normally don't do it.
But if you use 8GB in a WEEK, you can be sure they're going to investigate if that usage actually came from just the phone.
So I should be OK tethering for my kids infuses when we are away from wifi?
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So I should be OK tethering for my kids infuses when we are away from wifi?
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How did you reach that conclusion from this thread?
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So I should be OK tethering for my kids infuses when we are away from wifi?
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Maybe. I haven't gotten a nastygram yet and I tether my tablet all the time, but that's it.
I'm responsible about data usage though - even with moderate tethering I've never gone more than 500-700 MB per month.
I haven't gotten anything yet either (knock on wood) but I did get one of those "you are in the top 5%" emails this month. So I will be watching my usage a lot more considering multiple, members on various forms here are recently reporting this from AT&T.
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OMG. 8 gigs in a week. Lulz. How? No torrents on teathering. My 2 cents
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I know this seems like a joke, but really, switch to Sprint. Unlimited means UNLIMITED, on 3G or 4G (although you're much safer tethering on 4G since they don't give a damn how you use it). That, and we have the GSII.
All carriers have a teathering plan in the works, even sprint. Soon teathering will only work with the proper plan. People have taken this for granted and abused the unlimited data which was not designed for 8gb a week usage. I know that is extreme. Think about it. The unlimited was made when the average person had no idea a phone could do it. Hell I ran my whole shop off a teathered connection to my tilt when our internet went down. But that was rare. Now every kid in the world has a phone that can do it, do they use it responsibily? Nope they are streaming movies in class, music.....you get the point lol. I can't blame the carriers. As more and more people live their lives with their faces buried in a phone or tablet, the data network that runs these device will need to be changed from what we are used to. With the new system you will not be able to hide what device is using the connection. So now its time to man/woman up and either get home internet or pay for the teathering.
I got the email ....i dont tether.
I tethered 1 time last week to test functionality on gtgs new thrill rom....
Is there maybe an apn issue where they think i am tethering when i am not????
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Tethering a infuse thru a infuse would make it look as though I'm not tethering at all, no? No Pc or different operating system involved.
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just got the galaxy s and used up my 2 gigs in one day, now the internet is so slow I cant even load the market. Is there anyway to bypass this I need unlimited.
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I believe you can upgrade to a 5 or 10 gig at an extra cost. Curious as to how you burned 2 gigs in one day though.
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just got the galaxy s and used up my 2 gigs in one day, now the internet is so slow I cant even load the market. Is there anyway to bypass this I need unlimited.
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Chances are you have unlimited. But it doesn't matter as soon as you hit your cap you will be throttled. I'm allotted 5gb a month and if I use it all before my next billing cycle I have the same problem as you. My suggestion to you would to use wifi if available or change your data plan.
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Two gigs in one day is insane usage.. he's right use wifi
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I eould use wifi.but I dont have.home internet and I use.my phone as my main internet and I used it in one day by downloading a movie and some music. But isnt there a way to change the apn settings or flashing a differnt radio to bypass the throttling?
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I eould use wifi.but I dont have.home internet and I use.my phone as my main internet and I used it in one day by downloading a movie and some music. But isnt there a way to change the apn settings or flashing a differnt radio to bypass the throttling?
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Sorry but if that was possible we would all tell T-Mobile to suck it and get free data.
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I remember people cheating this on AT&T and they were busted cuz' AT&T found out. My humble suggestion is stay with the 2gb plan and try to get internet for your house. I also use my phone as main internet but I keep it cool. I have only managed to get to 4.3gb in a month using the tv shows apk. Never been able to use more than 5gb.
I know, it s**ks to be throttled. I have 2 friends that always get throttled and they want to die. LOL
hello, this not the case with me. I'm in bay area if that's matter, and im not being throttled now for 4 months in a raw.But i am with one of those grandfathered plans 20 unlimited.I have it with the blackberry 8120 witch bought 2007 it was edge.So right now im doing about 20 gb per month on average , but still not tethering .Im starting to tether tough due to very high prices on Comcast and the speed is comparable with t mobile.But i will try not not being throthled again becouse of a tethering - there is way to hide you from the pc.
Hi everyone,
Wondering what apps people use for wireless tether that hide data usage from carriers. I currently use PDANET and also have wireless tether installed, but are there settings in wireless tether I can set so it will hide the usage? I did find some hits from other devices that had specific changed to the wireless tether source to do this, but nothing for the Charge. Any suggestions? Thank you!
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It's impossible. YOU CANT HIDE FROM THE COMPANY MAN!
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AFAIK, if you're running the Gingerbread leak, hiding your usage is pretty much impossible.
crap, thanks for the info guys. Can't hide from the man
yes you can
You can hide man just keep diggin and you will see.
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crap, thanks for the info guys. Can't hide from the man
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You worry too much!
Verizon can tell when your tethering, can't really hide it, just don't go crazy
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Verizon can tell when your tethering, can't really hide it, just don't go crazy
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No they can't. They can only see your traffic-for instance, logging on to Xbox Live will raise some suspicion because it wouldn't make sense for a phone to be logging in. Just don't use ridiculous amounts of data and don't go to any stupid sites.
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No they can't. They can only see your traffic-for instance, logging on to Xbox Live will raise some suspicion because it wouldn't make sense for a phone to be logging in. Just don't use ridiculous amounts of data and don't go to any stupid sites.
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Actually, it shouldn't be too hard for them to capture a packet and check the headers, which should tell them if the traffic is valid phone traffic or tether traffic. That is unless your tether software is re-shaping packets that flow through it.
But with all of their customers as long as you don't stand out, they won't look
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No they can't. They can only see your traffic-for instance, logging on to Xbox Live will raise some suspicion because it wouldn't make sense for a phone to be logging in. Just don't use ridiculous amounts of data and don't go to any stupid sites.
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If they want to, they can tell when you're tethering and when you aren't, regardless of how good the app you're using claims to be.
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But with all of their customers as long as you don't stand out, they won't look
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That would assume that they have individual people scanning packets, rather than a piece of software monitoring packets and throwing flags. If you have software watching information, it doesn't matter how many sources it's coming from.
Well just set up my tether at the airport. Guess I will see when the bill comes it.
I have been tethering since I got my first incredible and haven't seen anything bad come of it, and I'm torrenting blu rays, on psn, streaming video etc.
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Right now i. Am up to 41gigs and I used 34 last month (netflix and playing swtor and downloading stuff)
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Right now i. Am up to 41gigs and I used 34 last month (netflix and playing swtor and downloading stuff)
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So far in 3 months I've used 165 GB. I do most of the bandwidth heavy stuff at night after 11 PM or 12 AM.
The thing is Verizon really doesn't care what you do. If a tower is congested they will throttle you, but that almost never happens except during peak hours. So if you're torrenting at 7 PM, your data may be (very temporarily) throttled to less than 1 mbps. But wait until 10 or 11 PM and you can consume data to your heart's delight.
Verizon's network is relatively robust (not nearly as good as European carriers though), so they could easily offer unlimited LTE to everyone, with throttling only during peak hours (4-10 PM). They don't do it though because they'd rather sell you 22 GB for $180, or just catch people with overage charges.
Yep I use all my data during night (10pm-6am) I work at that time and use my laptop at work with my phone. Verizon never said anything to me or slowed my connection
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Has anyone else gotten a message that this will be blocked if the service isnt added???
And if anyone can explain how this is something different that can be charged for if it is a feature of the phone... Using the same unlimited data...
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Not sure about that, but if you want wifi tethering, look up barnacle wifi tether in the market.
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Can tmobile detect you using that app? i was using the one in gingerbread under settings when i got the message...
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http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
You want this.
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If it keeps up, go to your apn settings and create a new one with the apn internet2.voicestream.com and you should be able to bypass the tethering message. If you keep it by default, mms will fail with that apn. You should be able to set the epc apn for mms only and the other for internet. something like that.
You can also try internet3.voicestream.com also. Speeds vary for the two apn's based on my experience.
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Has anyone else gotten a message that this will be blocked if the service isnt added???
And if anyone can explain how this is something different that can be charged for if it is a feature of the phone... Using the same unlimited data...
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Yes, Tmobile has an additional package you must purchase to use tethering and hotspot. 15 and 10 per month, respectively.
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I've used Open Garden and never gotten a message, but you can also use USB tethering and avoid any greediness from Tmobile.
Thabks for all thw suggestions everyone. I am currently trying the open garden one.
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I would only see this when using Internet explorer. Use google chrome and you shouldn't have a problem.
I used if on stock Rom and never got charged wierd...
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Two tmobile phones using 5gb data/ month each for over 7 months, 4gb a month from computer using mobile AP....haven't had a warning yet. I read on another thread a long time ago that people where or where not getting notices depending on their type of data use....file sharing etc...not sure if that holds true all of the time though.
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My sisters phone slows down after awile, and she uses netflix for about an hour, she gets a warning but we are no where even close to 5gb download.
I just got the T-mobile $30 5GB "unlimited"/ 100 minute prepaid voice plan.
In a short test the built in wifi hotspot feature in the stock Gingerbread Settings tab seems to work. T-mobile does not offer any add-ons for tethering on this plan.
Is it safe to use this built in feature, or should I be looking for some other app (open garden?) to do this?
nope this is what my dad uses and works great. if you have problems with it then get an alternative wifi tether.
clockworkmod tether is still in beta but I have it on my phone and it works great. google it. the software package you install on your pc installs the apk on your phone.
Me and my wife have been using the mobile AP for over a year and we just upgraded to ginger bread and now when we use it we get a message telling us we have to upgrade our plan and then next time we try to use it the Web will not work it just sends you to Tmobile. We tried downloading pda net from the market but you still can't go to sights that require passwords. It would be nice to find a way around this.
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I actually got that message twice (on stock, never since running custom ROMs), but they never followed through. Of course I don't use my phones data for my laptop often, only on rare occasion and usually not for more than a few minutes.
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Tmobile can kiss my rear end on this one, they certainly did NOT have a tethering plan when I purchased the phone and its rediculouse to try to charge me now for a feature that was on the phone and free for the longest time now
cwm tether hides the fact that you are using a tether from tmobile
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cwm tether hides the fact that you are using a tether from tmobile
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As does PDANet, I've been using that since my Treo 650 and the paid version is worth every penny.
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Is it possible to tether (use wifi hotspot) so that T-Mobile won't know that I am tethering? I have the "unlimited" 2GB per month data plan and would really like to tether without paying for the tethering option. Does anyone know if there is a 3rd party app or some other way around them knowing that I am tethering? I know there have been a couple threads about this but none gives a clear answer. Thanks!
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Is it possible to tether (use wifi hotspot) so that T-Mobile won't know that I am tethering? I have the "unlimited" 2GB per month data plan and would really like to tether without paying for the tethering option. Does anyone know if there is a 3rd party app or some other way around them knowing that I am tethering? I know there have been a couple threads about this but none gives a clear answer. Thanks!
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Root and install a ROM then use the built in tethering with the ROM. Carriers won't know you're tethering but it will show them that you're using a lot of data
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Root and install a ROM then use the built in tethering with the ROM. Carriers won't know you're tethering but it will show them that you're using a lot of data
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This. I tether from time to time and they've never said anything to me or done anything.
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Twice now I have had trouble with tethering with a t mobile website coming up on my computer saying that I need to pay for the tethering option. Reboot phone reboot computer problem solved.
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creglenn said:
Root and install a ROM then use the built in tethering with the ROM. Carriers won't know you're tethering but it will show them that you're using a lot of data
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So I just have to be rooted and that's it? I'm on the stock 2.3.4 LG and it is rooted so I should be all set?
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So I just have to be rooted and that's it? I'm on the stock 2.3.4 LG and it is rooted so I should be all set?
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I use it all the time. No issues for me.
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Ok thanks guys!
I think they were saying you'd need a custom ROM?
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I actually DID get fully blocked from Tethering back in January. They'd been warning me for 2 months when it happened. I had gone over my cap by quite a bit in December, if that makes a difference... crawling internet was better than no internet! Had received several warnings. Made user agent and other changes in my browser that was supposed to hide the activity, but they DID cut me off. Tethering stopped working completely.
Thankfully that was right at the time they were offering the free tethering add-on if you upgraded to 5gb data from 2gb so I called up and had them add that. I was already at 5gb, but I told them I'd be dropping my data if they didn't give me the tethering... Don't know if that is still offered.
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I actually DID get fully blocked from Tethering back in January. They'd been warning me for 2 months when it happened. I had gone over my cap by quite a bit in December, if that makes a difference... crawling internet was better than no internet! Had received several warnings. Made user agent and other changes in my browser that was supposed to hide the activity, but they DID cut me off. Tethering stopped working completely.
Thankfully that was right at the time they were offering the free tethering add-on if you upgraded to 5gb data from 2gb so I called up and had them add that. I was already at 5gb, but I told them I'd be dropping my data if they didn't give me the tethering... Don't know if that is still offered.
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Its still included with 5gb. I changed mine from 2gb to 5 last month because I'm not around wifi as much these days
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Well I won't use tethering a ton because I'm usually in wifi range. I got a Xoom off of craigslist last week and I don't feel like paying for Verizon 4G LTE so I figured I could attempt to tether with the G2x cuz I'm cheap
Lol you guys are making this way too complex for the OP. Just get OpenGarden or Barnacle Tether from the Play Store! Just have to be rooted.
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Lol you guys are making this way too complex for the OP. Just get OpenGarden or Barnacle Tether from the Play Store! Just have to be rooted.
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For some reason the wifi from both of those apps show up on my laptop but not on my xoom tablet. Any thoughts on why that would be?
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For some reason the wifi from both of those apps show up on my laptop but not on my xoom tablet. Any thoughts on why that would be?
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Some devices can't connect to an Ad-Hoc connection (which is what those apps create), like the PS3. Perhaps your tablet is like that too.
Ok thanks. I guess I'll just use the built in tethering app. I was using it yesterday for an hour or so and had no problems.
I'm thinking Of increasing My cell package to LTE and tethering My laptop to My phone.
My current cell package Is 6G/month With the LTE it jumps to 10G/month. I typically use 6G on My cell and 2 to 3G at home per month
has anybody done this? if So can you offer some feedback and any pitfalls.
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All I could see is if you're flashing ROMs on your phone and it suddenly messes up then you can't go online to troubleshoot but if you don't flash on a daily basis then everything should be fine. I personally haven't done tethering on a regular basis (even though my plan allows me to).
no I don't ever put custom ROMs
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FWIW, tethering kills your battery life. You use a fair bit of internet at home, but not really a "power user" per se, so you're kind of in the gray area where this type of thing could work for you but still isn't a great idea IMO.
Sounds like a good idea if it saves cash at the end of the month. At home I easily blow through 200 gigs per month, but if my usage resembled yours, I'd do it.
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FWIW, tethering kills your battery life. You use a fair bit of internet at home, but not really a "power user" per se, so you're kind of in the gray area where this type of thing could work for you but still isn't a great idea IMO.
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Ya I'm thinking that's gonna be a con. but the phone will basically be plugged in once I'm home. do you thing because I'll be on LTE for a prolonged time it will affect the phone, because Of increased heat
Ya I'm right on that edge. that's why this Is still in the analysis phase.
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Sounds like a good idea if it saves cash at the end of the month. At home I easily blow through 200 gigs per month, but if my usage resembled yours, I'd do it.
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200G/month. dude what are you downloading?
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Lots, and lots, of ...... jk.
Mostly TV! Netflix, hulu, crackle, youtube. Still have the og dvr but I hardly touch it anymore. Always have something streaming. I am fearful of imminent tiered data, hopefully Time Warner holds out.
My dad is doing this its saving him a lot of money and his lte is actually faster then his old network, the only downfall is make sure you plug it in because it drains your battery quick.
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My dad is doing this its saving him a lot of money and his lte is actually faster then his old network, the only downfall is make sure you plug it in because it drains your battery quick.
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If you use pdanet to tether it will charge while you are tethering....
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seanci said:
My dad is doing this its saving him a lot of money and his lte is actually faster then his old network, the only downfall is make sure you plug it in because it drains your battery quick.
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My savings would only be about $22/month but I'd get faster sppeds. My home connection is 6Mbps my friends are getting 20 to 40Mbps on their LTE phones.
The only thing holding me back is what if my needs change and I need more internet at home? Especially now that winter is arrving a lot more time indoors/at home.
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If you use pdanet to tether it will charge while you are tethering....
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what is pdanet? I just googled it and it's just an app that let's you tether and we can already do that stock with our Skyrockets. I wanted to tether using wifi very rare I'll use the USB plug, because I find plugging into the computer takes forever to charge.
Jamolah said:
I'm thinking Of increasing My cell package to LTE and tethering My laptop to My phone.
My current cell package Is 6G/month With the LTE it jumps to 10G/month. I typically use 6G on My cell and 2 to 3G at home per month
has anybody done this? if So can you offer some feedback and any pitfalls.
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Who's your provider if you got 6 gigs and with LTE 10? AT&T doesn't have those plans.
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Who's your provider if you got 6 gigs and with LTE 10? AT&T doesn't have those plans.
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I'm With ROGERS (in Canada)
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