Running Liquid 3.2, Have an unlimited plan(grandfathered in). If i tether using an app (Open garden Wifi Tether" to my tablet will they know im tethering and charge me or and im still 007(as in in the clear)
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From what I understand, they can't monitor what tethering app you are using. All they can see is that your data usage is going up. Depending on how much you use they may send you a notice about the dramatic increase. But screw them you just been downloading a lot of music, and YouTube videos. Lol
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mann75 said:
From what I understand, they can't monitor what tethering app you are using. All they can see is that your data usage is going up. Depending on how much you use they may send you a notice about the dramatic increase. But screw them you just been downloading a lot of music, and YouTube videos. Lol
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I hope so, I just installed a new radio on my TB, and now have 4G with 15mbps. Tethering to my new tablet is faster then i thought.. but i dont wanna pay for it =)
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I only ask one thing...don't advise it or you'll kill it for the rest of us
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Ive been tethering since my OG, i just want to know if its free lol.
David522d said:
Ive been tethering since my OG, i just want to know if its free lol.
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The tethering apps are free, but the data being used depends on your data plan. if you have unlimited data then you have no worries. But if you are on a plan that has data limits be very mindful of how much you have been using.
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I tether to my xbox to watch Netflix last month I used 35 gigs. I also have unlimited data and they haven't said anything or slowed it down any
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I've used about 15gb at the most tethering to my ps3 and they never did anything to me. Unlimited plans rule.
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I didn't think a 3g signal would be able to handle a video game system online.
Is there any lag when playing?
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I get no lag on 3g. It's actually more laggy on 4g oddly enough. I think its the tethers fault but I haven't figured it out yet.
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disconnecktie said:
I get no lag on 3g. It's actually more laggy on 4g oddly enough. I think its the tethers fault but I haven't figured it out yet.
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Wow would have never thought it would handle it. Good to know. Lol
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I actually got rid of my home Internet and just tether. Been almost a year now with no issues.
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mann75 said:
I didn't think a 3g signal would be able to handle a video game system online.
Is there any lag when playing?
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I can't play online cuz its laggy well i can for a Lil bit then i get kicked. I need to be able to change my NAT settings to open Barnical tether has changeable NAT settings but I can't seem to get it to be open
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I can get 30mbps down while tethering, but my pings ANYWHERE are always like 100ms+, making gaming impossible.
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So i recently checked my account for data usage and im at 10gb of data in about 2 weeks of usage. Could this be a problem for me later. Im waiting for vzw to say that im using too much data.
Really? Cool story Bro.
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I just checked and I'm at almost 60 gigs for the month, no throttle yet.
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How do you guys use so much
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The thunderbolt has a data usage problem that it incorrectly reads data and Verizon knows about it and are trying to fix it.
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bajabubz said:
I just checked and I'm at almost 60 gigs for the month, no throttle yet.
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60GB? ROFL.
I find that tough to believe.
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60GB? ROFL.
I find that tough to believe.
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Eh its possible...as I am at 45gb with 7 days left
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6GB but I don't tether at all or do very much streaming.
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How on earth are you using so much data?
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I've used 20gb in just 6 days.I hook up my phone to my xbox to watch netflix in HD.
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So i recently checked my account for data usage and im at 10gb of data in about 2 weeks of usage. Could this be a problem for me later. Im waiting for vzw to say that im using too much data.
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I just got my bolt, and in about 3 hrs of use, i have used about 147mb. All I did so far was download 5 apps [about 30megs total] and setup my primary gmail, and thats it. No tether, no streaming.
I wonder what the phone is doing in the background...
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How on earth are you using so much data?
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uhh... lte is faster than my comcast economy internet service, so just tether and use the computer as you normally would?
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How on earth are you using so much data?
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Emails. I do a lot of uploading and downloading. Some work related.
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what25 said:
I just got my bolt, and in about 3 hrs of use, i have used about 147mb. All I did so far was download 5 apps [about 30megs total] and setup my primary gmail, and thats it. No tether, no streaming.
I wonder what the phone is doing in the background...
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IMAP(gmail default) pulls all your emails and folders. When I set up my gmail that's automatically 50mb in email downloads without attachments. Are some of the apps use your data connection for updating? Like backgrounds. What do you have sending?
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Tidbits said:
IMAP(gmail default) pulls all your emails and folders. When I set up my gmail that's automatically 50mb in email downloads without attachments. Are some of the apps use your data connection for updating? Like backgrounds. What do you have sending?
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No I don't have apps for updating. Infact, I used titanium backup to restore all my apps, however, the market updated some of them. All in all, its basically the same apps I had on my Nexus1, as well as my same usage habits. I would peg my voluntary usage at about 230mbs. On my N1, my daily data usage would be between 60-100mbs.
After 24hrs of use with my bolt, Im at 740mb. I have no idea why that big. (My guess is the Sense bloat is doing something, but thats a guess. I removed all the VZ bloat) And about 95mbs of it was during my sleep. (on my n1, that number would be about 8mbs).
goodthing for unlimited data.
After rooting why would anyone worry over data usage?
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After rooting why would anyone worry over data usage?
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Because root has nothing to do with data...?
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You have unlimited presumably, don't worry about it.
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These 20gb+ data usages are a big factor in companies changing their data packages. "Sigh"
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Hopefully my tbolt and current data package is good for the next ten years so I can be grandfathered into the unlimited data.
ahhhh the aliens took my brain!!
Do you use the wifi feature on your thunderbolt and if so have you used it in your gaming console and do you get lag on it?
I'm assuming you mean mobile hotspot feature and I have tried it and yes I do get lag. The mobile hotspot does not give great constant signal so there are many breaks and drop outs. I would not recommend using this but give it a shot if you want.
Hope this helps
The factory mobile hotspot app has a cap on the speed. I get better results from other tether apps.
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The factory mobile hotspot app has a cap on the speed. I get better results from other tether apps.
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Agreed, you will get better results from additional tether apps that are offered.
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The factory mobile hotspot app has a cap on the speed. I get better results from other tether apps.
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+1
even using other tether apps, things like online gaming and streaming video are not exactly ideal
Tried xbox live through it and was disconnected while searching for any online games. I would say that it's probably not the best idea.
I play wow, with vent and sometimes pandora on 2-3 bars of 3g with low pings...
Edit: using easytether (wired)
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I played some games and downloaded so songs with PDA net on my desktop. It was really fast on 4G. But you have to pay for PDA net aftrler awhile. I use wireless tether to connect my xoom when I need it
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Haven't messed with the wireless to much I'd go with a third party app for it. Or USB tether. Can run xbox live with usb tether even without much problems. Atleast in my experience
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Hi everyone,
Wondering what apps people use for wireless tether that hide data usage from carriers. I currently use PDANET and also have wireless tether installed, but are there settings in wireless tether I can set so it will hide the usage? I did find some hits from other devices that had specific changed to the wireless tether source to do this, but nothing for the Charge. Any suggestions? Thank you!
Tom
It's impossible. YOU CANT HIDE FROM THE COMPANY MAN!
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AFAIK, if you're running the Gingerbread leak, hiding your usage is pretty much impossible.
crap, thanks for the info guys. Can't hide from the man
yes you can
You can hide man just keep diggin and you will see.
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crap, thanks for the info guys. Can't hide from the man
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You worry too much!
Verizon can tell when your tethering, can't really hide it, just don't go crazy
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Verizon can tell when your tethering, can't really hide it, just don't go crazy
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No they can't. They can only see your traffic-for instance, logging on to Xbox Live will raise some suspicion because it wouldn't make sense for a phone to be logging in. Just don't use ridiculous amounts of data and don't go to any stupid sites.
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No they can't. They can only see your traffic-for instance, logging on to Xbox Live will raise some suspicion because it wouldn't make sense for a phone to be logging in. Just don't use ridiculous amounts of data and don't go to any stupid sites.
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Actually, it shouldn't be too hard for them to capture a packet and check the headers, which should tell them if the traffic is valid phone traffic or tether traffic. That is unless your tether software is re-shaping packets that flow through it.
But with all of their customers as long as you don't stand out, they won't look
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No they can't. They can only see your traffic-for instance, logging on to Xbox Live will raise some suspicion because it wouldn't make sense for a phone to be logging in. Just don't use ridiculous amounts of data and don't go to any stupid sites.
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If they want to, they can tell when you're tethering and when you aren't, regardless of how good the app you're using claims to be.
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But with all of their customers as long as you don't stand out, they won't look
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That would assume that they have individual people scanning packets, rather than a piece of software monitoring packets and throwing flags. If you have software watching information, it doesn't matter how many sources it's coming from.
Well just set up my tether at the airport. Guess I will see when the bill comes it.
I have been tethering since I got my first incredible and haven't seen anything bad come of it, and I'm torrenting blu rays, on psn, streaming video etc.
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Right now i. Am up to 41gigs and I used 34 last month (netflix and playing swtor and downloading stuff)
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Right now i. Am up to 41gigs and I used 34 last month (netflix and playing swtor and downloading stuff)
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So far in 3 months I've used 165 GB. I do most of the bandwidth heavy stuff at night after 11 PM or 12 AM.
The thing is Verizon really doesn't care what you do. If a tower is congested they will throttle you, but that almost never happens except during peak hours. So if you're torrenting at 7 PM, your data may be (very temporarily) throttled to less than 1 mbps. But wait until 10 or 11 PM and you can consume data to your heart's delight.
Verizon's network is relatively robust (not nearly as good as European carriers though), so they could easily offer unlimited LTE to everyone, with throttling only during peak hours (4-10 PM). They don't do it though because they'd rather sell you 22 GB for $180, or just catch people with overage charges.
Yep I use all my data during night (10pm-6am) I work at that time and use my laptop at work with my phone. Verizon never said anything to me or slowed my connection
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Is there any way for me to disguise my usage so they can not see that I'm tethering or am I busted and should give up?
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jdbeitz said:
Is there any way for me to disguise my usage so they can not see that I'm tethering or am I busted and should give up?
Thanks!
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How much data were you using?
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You do the crime, you pay the time.
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How much data were you using, what APN, and in what location?
Switch to sprint?
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Is there any way for me to disguise my usage so they can not see that I'm tethering or am I busted and should give up?
Thanks!
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Hard to do! The data usage patterns of a mobile device n that of a computer vary a lot. The bandwidth used within a period of time is a sure shot indicator of the same. Best would be to get a home internet.
It seems like they are wising up --- or determined some new way of detecting it. Give us more information.
I also tether a lot and now im concerned! I was just discussing this on the Captivate forum. Another user recently got caught: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1269283
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How much data were you using, what APN, and in what location?
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Im using the s7 rom with the new ki modem. So whatever the default apn is for that.
I've used 8gb this week
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I am not sure if they do it off data usage or mac address. I know when I stream Siruis radio that is uses the same data that my laptop does. I have hit 5mb of usage in a month with I play about 6-7 hours of Siruis each day at work.
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Im using the s7 rom with the new ki modem. So whatever the default apn is for that.
I've used 8gb this week
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8GB this WEEK???? Give up and pay for tethering. There's no way you're going to be able to play that off as phone usage.
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AT&T has the ability to do deep packet inspection to determine what OS is sending the packets - there are some fingerprints they can use to tell that it isn't an Android device.
This is a resource-intensive process so they normally don't do it.
But if you use 8GB in a WEEK, you can be sure they're going to investigate if that usage actually came from just the phone.
So I should be OK tethering for my kids infuses when we are away from wifi?
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So I should be OK tethering for my kids infuses when we are away from wifi?
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How did you reach that conclusion from this thread?
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So I should be OK tethering for my kids infuses when we are away from wifi?
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Maybe. I haven't gotten a nastygram yet and I tether my tablet all the time, but that's it.
I'm responsible about data usage though - even with moderate tethering I've never gone more than 500-700 MB per month.
I haven't gotten anything yet either (knock on wood) but I did get one of those "you are in the top 5%" emails this month. So I will be watching my usage a lot more considering multiple, members on various forms here are recently reporting this from AT&T.
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OMG. 8 gigs in a week. Lulz. How? No torrents on teathering. My 2 cents
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I know this seems like a joke, but really, switch to Sprint. Unlimited means UNLIMITED, on 3G or 4G (although you're much safer tethering on 4G since they don't give a damn how you use it). That, and we have the GSII.
All carriers have a teathering plan in the works, even sprint. Soon teathering will only work with the proper plan. People have taken this for granted and abused the unlimited data which was not designed for 8gb a week usage. I know that is extreme. Think about it. The unlimited was made when the average person had no idea a phone could do it. Hell I ran my whole shop off a teathered connection to my tilt when our internet went down. But that was rare. Now every kid in the world has a phone that can do it, do they use it responsibily? Nope they are streaming movies in class, music.....you get the point lol. I can't blame the carriers. As more and more people live their lives with their faces buried in a phone or tablet, the data network that runs these device will need to be changed from what we are used to. With the new system you will not be able to hide what device is using the connection. So now its time to man/woman up and either get home internet or pay for the teathering.
I got the email ....i dont tether.
I tethered 1 time last week to test functionality on gtgs new thrill rom....
Is there maybe an apn issue where they think i am tethering when i am not????
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Tethering a infuse thru a infuse would make it look as though I'm not tethering at all, no? No Pc or different operating system involved.
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I'm thinking Of increasing My cell package to LTE and tethering My laptop to My phone.
My current cell package Is 6G/month With the LTE it jumps to 10G/month. I typically use 6G on My cell and 2 to 3G at home per month
has anybody done this? if So can you offer some feedback and any pitfalls.
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All I could see is if you're flashing ROMs on your phone and it suddenly messes up then you can't go online to troubleshoot but if you don't flash on a daily basis then everything should be fine. I personally haven't done tethering on a regular basis (even though my plan allows me to).
no I don't ever put custom ROMs
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FWIW, tethering kills your battery life. You use a fair bit of internet at home, but not really a "power user" per se, so you're kind of in the gray area where this type of thing could work for you but still isn't a great idea IMO.
Sounds like a good idea if it saves cash at the end of the month. At home I easily blow through 200 gigs per month, but if my usage resembled yours, I'd do it.
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FWIW, tethering kills your battery life. You use a fair bit of internet at home, but not really a "power user" per se, so you're kind of in the gray area where this type of thing could work for you but still isn't a great idea IMO.
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Ya I'm thinking that's gonna be a con. but the phone will basically be plugged in once I'm home. do you thing because I'll be on LTE for a prolonged time it will affect the phone, because Of increased heat
Ya I'm right on that edge. that's why this Is still in the analysis phase.
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Sounds like a good idea if it saves cash at the end of the month. At home I easily blow through 200 gigs per month, but if my usage resembled yours, I'd do it.
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200G/month. dude what are you downloading?
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Lots, and lots, of ...... jk.
Mostly TV! Netflix, hulu, crackle, youtube. Still have the og dvr but I hardly touch it anymore. Always have something streaming. I am fearful of imminent tiered data, hopefully Time Warner holds out.
My dad is doing this its saving him a lot of money and his lte is actually faster then his old network, the only downfall is make sure you plug it in because it drains your battery quick.
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My dad is doing this its saving him a lot of money and his lte is actually faster then his old network, the only downfall is make sure you plug it in because it drains your battery quick.
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If you use pdanet to tether it will charge while you are tethering....
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My dad is doing this its saving him a lot of money and his lte is actually faster then his old network, the only downfall is make sure you plug it in because it drains your battery quick.
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My savings would only be about $22/month but I'd get faster sppeds. My home connection is 6Mbps my friends are getting 20 to 40Mbps on their LTE phones.
The only thing holding me back is what if my needs change and I need more internet at home? Especially now that winter is arrving a lot more time indoors/at home.
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If you use pdanet to tether it will charge while you are tethering....
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what is pdanet? I just googled it and it's just an app that let's you tether and we can already do that stock with our Skyrockets. I wanted to tether using wifi very rare I'll use the USB plug, because I find plugging into the computer takes forever to charge.
Jamolah said:
I'm thinking Of increasing My cell package to LTE and tethering My laptop to My phone.
My current cell package Is 6G/month With the LTE it jumps to 10G/month. I typically use 6G on My cell and 2 to 3G at home per month
has anybody done this? if So can you offer some feedback and any pitfalls.
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Who's your provider if you got 6 gigs and with LTE 10? AT&T doesn't have those plans.
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Who's your provider if you got 6 gigs and with LTE 10? AT&T doesn't have those plans.
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I'm With ROGERS (in Canada)
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