i searched a bit but couldnt find a clear answer.. I read somewhere that when a dev posts a stock rooted rom based off an ota that it might not contain all the chipset and firmware updates that a ruu has.. just wondering what the main difference is between a ruu and an ota (other than obviously it comes over the air) and if its better to flash a ruu and root it rather than a pre rooted rom based on ota..
If I am correct it's that ruu is standalone full rom. Where ota is a addon for the 2.3.3 ROM.
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thanks, but do you know if when a dev posts a stock rooted rom based on an ota if it contains all the upgrades and benefits that a ruu would
mattdub1 said:
thanks, but do you know if when a dev posts a stock rooted rom based on an ota if it contains all the upgrades and benefits that a ruu would
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Most of them are based on the OTA as it was available before the ruu. I don't know if there is any difference between the quality.
anyone have any input? i was looking in insertcoin rom OP and noticed that the dev flashed the ruu and then wiped and flashed his own rom and now its faster
He re-did the ROM based on the full RUU as opposed to a patched 1.35 ROM with the OTA file applied. It's cleaner and should be better as a result
thank you, ok so if i just want to go back to stock would i be better off flashing the tmo us 2.3.4 ruu when its available or installing one of the 2.3.4 stock rooted roms that came out after the ota since they are based on the ota?
I'd flash the 1.29.531.2 RUU, then get the OTA files when presented with them
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Okay, right now I am running Insertcoin 3.4.6 (Gingerbread 2.3.5) and the first ICS RUU leak. Is there any point of me to flash the latest RUU (leaked yesterday?) since I am running GB? Will it affect the performance negative or positive?
And just to throw another question in, should I flash a new RIL too when I update the firmware, or is it updated automaticly?
Thanks
Sigg1996 said:
Okay, right now I am running Insertcoin 3.4.6 (Gingerbread 2.3.5) and the first ICS RUU leak. Is there any point of me to flash the latest RUU (leaked yesterday?) since I am running GB? Will it affect the performance negative or positive?
And just to throw another question in, should I flash a new RIL too when I update the firmware, or is it updated automaticly?
Thanks
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Hi,
The best radio is the one that works.
If it's working fine at the moment,then leave it alone.
If you intend to install ICS 4.0.3,then you WILL need the latest firmware and radio.
When the OTA update for ICS drops, will there be a way to root and S-OFF with Revolutionary like there is for Gingerbread? Or will flashing the currently available firmwares be necessary? I'm not sure how the update process will work, as far as these things. I guess my question is: How would I root and S-OFF when ICS drops for Sensation 4g users? Thanks in advance.
Prob not right away.
Remember if you do choose to recieve the stock ics ota that you need to flash the stock recovery or you will end with a brick. Someone please correct me if i am wrong.
But with upgraded FW 3.30 and roms such as virtuous and ARHD ICS theres really no need to update to the official ics. I do understand if you want the official ics though.
Hope this helps.
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Virtuous 3.0
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Prob not right away.
Remember if you do choose to recieve the stock ics ota that you need to flash the stock recovery or you will end with a brick. Someone please correct me if i am wrong.
But with upgraded FW 3.30 and roms such as virtuous and ARHD ICS theres really no need to update to the official ics. I do understand if you want the official ics though.
Hope this helps.
Sent From My Ice Cream Sensation
Virtuous 3.0
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Yeah, I've been trying to decide whether to go back to full stock (S-ON, etc.) and go the OTA way or just do it with the user-friendly firmwares, but I'm pretty hesitant to do the latter because of the chance of bricking. How likely is the chance of a mistake somehow being made, even if the appropriate steps are taken? I mean, I've seen all these threads with people seemingly doing it right but still ending up with bootloops, so I'm quite apprehensive about the whole thing.
Edit: Also, is the final ICS firmware backwards compatible with Gingerbread ROMs, by any chance?
Na. Ics has to run on 3.24 fw and up
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Virtuous 3.0
vabeachfc3s said:
Prob not right away.
Remember if you do choose to recieve the stock ics ota that you need to flash the stock recovery or you will end with a brick. Someone please correct me if i am wrong.
But with upgraded FW 3.30 and roms such as virtuous and ARHD ICS theres really no need to update to the official ics. I do understand if you want the official ics though.
Hope this helps.
Sent From My Ice Cream Sensation
Virtuous 3.0
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You shouldn't end up with a brick if you don't have the stock recovery. I had the real stock experience Rom android 2.3.3 and when I did the software search it found the android 2.3.4 update. I downloaded it but all it says is you have made modifications to your phone...the update won't work.
Also. There is currently NO information whatsoever if revolutionary will update, and if it will support the sensation at all. If it did though I could fix my phone. Personally I'd go for the newest arhd although I can't. It's better than the official will be, I'm guessing that after a week or two sense will start to crash again. No matter what HTC have said.
I did the same as Sensation Lover. Coming from a stock 2.3.4, S-OFF and rooted. After the update completed it just stuck at the HTC splash screen upon reboot.
I just ended up reflashing the 1.50 TMO RUU and then did the update. I was S-OFF before the update via HTC Dev and that stayed.
If you are soff dont go back to son for the update. Like others have already said. You can flash the stock recovery then just use ota with soff. If you decide you want to root it'll be pretty simple
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Hello Guys
First i was on Android Revolution but now i have to send my phone back,
So i reinstalled the Stock Rom directly through the 4ext recovery, but there is still 4ext recovery ?
Does it belong to the stock rom or is it still a part of android revoultion hd 6.5. ?
Shall i keep it or erase it ? (I need the phone realy totally on stock)
thanks for help
hoodygfx said:
Hello Guys
First i was on Android Revolution but now i have to send my phone back,
So i reinstalled the Stock Rom directly through the 4ext recovery, but there is still 4ext recovery ?
Does it belong to the stock rom or is it still a part of android revoultion hd 6.5. ?
Shall i keep it or erase it ? (I need the phone realy totally on stock)
thanks for help
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Hmm I think its better to keep it stock for warranty purposes
Here is the link to the guide for removing recovery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1201773
PS: don't forget to hit thanks if this post is helpful
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Thank you, that is what i was looking for but now i got a new problem....
i downloaded the matching ruu , but when i want to install it , there is a error...
i think because the programm says that its already on that version...
what should i do now?
when i installed an old android revolution hd version with gingerbread, there is a bootloop... i think because of the wrong firmware package... but i dont know which fits to that gingerbread rom
hoodygfx said:
when i installed an old android revolution hd version with gingerbread, there is a bootloop... i think because of the wrong firmware package... but i dont know which fits to that gingerbread rom
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get the matching rom from this thread
here
the matching rom would be
RUU_Pyramid_HTC_<country/carrier>_<firmware version>_Radio_<radio>_release_<xxxx>_signed
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oops sorry you want to know which firmware supports gingerbread right?
brief description of each firmware:
3.32 Unlocked is the latest/stable release ICS 4.0.3 FW for Sensation (sense 3.6 Version) that has the Unlocked bootloader (posted by Mike1986)
3.30 Unlocked is ICS 4.0.3 FW for Sensation (sense 3.6 Version) that has the Unlocked bootloader (posted by Mike1986)
3.24 Unlocked is ICS 4.0.3 FW for Sensation (sense 3.6 Version) that has the Unlocked bootloader (posted by Mike1986)
3.12 is ICS 4.0.3 FW before that (Sense 3.5 Version)
1.17 This is the original Revolutionary 1.17.1111 Firmware with a completed Gingerbread Firmware v 1.45 package (Radio 10.14.9035.01_M)
Also the firmware thread
fclick here for firmwares
Hm i tried it but when i was on gingerbread and wanted to update with a RUU to a clean stock rom, EVERY RUU i tried was "Wrong" and wasnt working...
So i keept the stock ics rom, without superuser and s-off, but 4ext is still there....
so i think i have to keep it, it should "damage" my warranty , or am i wrong ?
Pull the recovery from the ruu and package into a PG58IMG to flash through bootloader...
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Pull the recovery from the ruu and package into a PG58IMG to flash through bootloader...
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But how ?
How can i get the stock recovery and the other files for the pg58img ...?
aaah got it !
Thanks everyone!
So, the official ICS RUU upgrade is here. I've had some experience with various custom ICS roms, and I found that I love Sense (3.6) and ICS.
Reading the prerequisites and other documentation got me thinking. I hope you guys can answer my questions, or some of them.
1. What does the ICS RUU have over custom ICS roms? I can't imagine anything, except for an updated radio perhaps?
This will help me determine whether I may get the ICS RUU or stay on a custom rom.
2. The prerequisite is having the HBOOT 2.00.2002 bootloader. Plenty links and instructions for backupping and flashing that, that will work.
However, *why* is is necessary to update it? Something to do with the size of the ICS RUU, which leads me to believe that the HBOOT 2.00.2002 is much smaller than my current alpharev 6.98.1002 HBOOT. But AFAIK (in general) bootloaders are quite small..
3. Are the any advantages to the HBOOT 2.00.2002 bootloader? Besides being to install the ICS RUU.
4. Since I'm thinking of updating other parts of my phone besides the OS itself (HBOOT, see point 2) I got thinking about the radio too.
My radio is version RADIO-3805.06.02.03_M
I have very poor reception in some parts of the country where I regurarly am (many weekends per year). Updating to the latest official Radio may give me better reception. Updating to what HTC considers the best radio firmware seems like a good idea, right?
Is this the wrong forum to ask these questions?
Quark^2 said:
1. What does the ICS RUU have over custom ICS roms? I can't imagine anything, except for an updated radio perhaps?
This will help me determine whether I may get the ICS RUU or stay on a custom rom.
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WiFi Hotspot is working.
Not everybody cares, I know, but I do.
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3. Are the any advantages to the HBOOT 2.00.2002 bootloader? Besides being to install the ICS RUU.
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Let's see... no need to go the X-Clip route to root your phone, just do an unlock and that's it.
You should do your research first as almost all has already been answered.
1. ICS that came out is official from HTC. That means its more stable, faster, and less buggy from their eyes. And may also be true if compared to other Custom ROMs. Its a matter of preference and ROM testing to see the differences.
2. The untouched ICS ROM also works for HBOOT v2.00.002 (came from Sense 3.0 release, Gingerbread). The HBOOT v2.02.002 (came from Sense 3.6 release, Ice Cream Sandwich) is an updated version of the latter. There maybe great changes, or maybe not. I have not seen any changelog from the net. Based on my experience, HBOOT from ICS does not want the System/Lib partition to be formatted via ROM flash from recovery. But the HBOOT from the GB can.
3. Not known yet. See number 2.
4. Yes and no. Yes, because HTC wants you to use the radio that is included from the RUU as they see fit that that is the best for its ROM. No, because some ROMs or its developers, same as HTC, prefers certain radios to be used, that is if you plan to use custom ROMs. Regarding your reception, the Desire S has already been found to have a lesser or weaker reception compared to other phones. Even older Nokia phones sometimes are better from it. Depends on your area as well.
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HBOOT Upgrade for HTC Desire CDMA ?
Hi,
Just wondering if its possible to Upgrade the HBoot version of HTC Desire CDMA
I am currently on HBoot ver 6.06.1002
Plz let me know
Regs,
Praveen
Skanob said:
You should do your research first as almost all has already been answered.
1. ICS that came out is official from HTC. That means its more stable, faster, and less buggy from their eyes. And may also be true if compared to other Custom ROMs. Its a matter of preference and ROM testing to see the differences.
2. The untouched ICS ROM also works for HBOOT v2.00.002 (came from Sense 3.0 release, Gingerbread). The HBOOT v2.02.002 (came from Sense 3.6 release, Ice Cream Sandwich) is an updated version of the latter. There maybe great changes, or maybe not. I have not seen any changelog from the net. Based on my experience, HBOOT from ICS does not want the System/Lib partition to be formatted via ROM flash from recovery. But the HBOOT from the GB can.
3. Not known yet. See number 2.
4. Yes and no. Yes, because HTC wants you to use the radio that is included from the RUU as they see fit that that is the best for its ROM. No, because some ROMs or its developers, same as HTC, prefers certain radios to be used, that is if you plan to use custom ROMs. Regarding your reception, the Desire S has already been found to have a lesser or weaker reception compared to other phones. Even older Nokia phones sometimes are better from it. Depends on your area as well.
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praveenrv said:
Hi,
Just wondering if its possible to Upgrade the HBoot version of HTC Desire CDMA
I am currently on HBoot ver 6.06.1002
Plz let me know
Regs,
Praveen
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Emm, im afraid this is the wrong thread, this is in the "Desire S" forum.
Hello I want update my android version from 4.0.1 to latest my phone is att one x and firmware is 2.20 rooted.I don't want to install or flash any ROM just want to update android version. Additional info. My CID is SUPER CID because I changed it while root process. Another question do I get auto update? Thanks.
From what I understand there is great risk flashing the OTA when you're Cid is changed. You can try manually changing the Cid back and flashing.. I have not done this myself. May or may not work. I would wait for your rom of choice to incorporate the latest update changes..
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exad said:
From what I understand there is great risk flashing the OTA when you're Cid is changed. You can try manually changing the Cid back and flashing.. I have not done this myself. May or may not work. I would wait for your rom of choice to incorporate the latest update changes..
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The problem is that i have never flashed a ROM. Because I like sense interface. As far as I know due to the discussions on forum there is no
substitute for sense in aspect of camera. And there is always bugs on ROMs.
A majority of our roms are sense jb with no bugs at all ..go. check out viper xl or clean Rom jb or hatka or the other great roms we have
I'm using UrDroid JellyBean, which is as close to a stock JellyBean ROM as it gets. I'm not even sure he modified anything, to be honest.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2066023