When the OTA update for ICS drops, will there be a way to root and S-OFF with Revolutionary like there is for Gingerbread? Or will flashing the currently available firmwares be necessary? I'm not sure how the update process will work, as far as these things. I guess my question is: How would I root and S-OFF when ICS drops for Sensation 4g users? Thanks in advance.
Prob not right away.
Remember if you do choose to recieve the stock ics ota that you need to flash the stock recovery or you will end with a brick. Someone please correct me if i am wrong.
But with upgraded FW 3.30 and roms such as virtuous and ARHD ICS theres really no need to update to the official ics. I do understand if you want the official ics though.
Hope this helps.
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Virtuous 3.0
vabeachfc3s said:
Prob not right away.
Remember if you do choose to recieve the stock ics ota that you need to flash the stock recovery or you will end with a brick. Someone please correct me if i am wrong.
But with upgraded FW 3.30 and roms such as virtuous and ARHD ICS theres really no need to update to the official ics. I do understand if you want the official ics though.
Hope this helps.
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Virtuous 3.0
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Yeah, I've been trying to decide whether to go back to full stock (S-ON, etc.) and go the OTA way or just do it with the user-friendly firmwares, but I'm pretty hesitant to do the latter because of the chance of bricking. How likely is the chance of a mistake somehow being made, even if the appropriate steps are taken? I mean, I've seen all these threads with people seemingly doing it right but still ending up with bootloops, so I'm quite apprehensive about the whole thing.
Edit: Also, is the final ICS firmware backwards compatible with Gingerbread ROMs, by any chance?
Na. Ics has to run on 3.24 fw and up
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vabeachfc3s said:
Prob not right away.
Remember if you do choose to recieve the stock ics ota that you need to flash the stock recovery or you will end with a brick. Someone please correct me if i am wrong.
But with upgraded FW 3.30 and roms such as virtuous and ARHD ICS theres really no need to update to the official ics. I do understand if you want the official ics though.
Hope this helps.
Sent From My Ice Cream Sensation
Virtuous 3.0
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You shouldn't end up with a brick if you don't have the stock recovery. I had the real stock experience Rom android 2.3.3 and when I did the software search it found the android 2.3.4 update. I downloaded it but all it says is you have made modifications to your phone...the update won't work.
Also. There is currently NO information whatsoever if revolutionary will update, and if it will support the sensation at all. If it did though I could fix my phone. Personally I'd go for the newest arhd although I can't. It's better than the official will be, I'm guessing that after a week or two sense will start to crash again. No matter what HTC have said.
I did the same as Sensation Lover. Coming from a stock 2.3.4, S-OFF and rooted. After the update completed it just stuck at the HTC splash screen upon reboot.
I just ended up reflashing the 1.50 TMO RUU and then did the update. I was S-OFF before the update via HTC Dev and that stayed.
If you are soff dont go back to son for the update. Like others have already said. You can flash the stock recovery then just use ota with soff. If you decide you want to root it'll be pretty simple
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I Need some help.. I'm a bit confused. I Want to try 3.24 firmware based ROMS, but i see i need to upgrade firmware. My question is, can i run GB ROMS on that firmware version?
Thanks!
nope, you can't run GB on that firmware, you'll have to revert back to your old hboot/firmware to run GB again. I was skeptical at first, but couldn't resist. Decided to try ICS, no regrets so far! GB? Hell no, not going back!
Not only can you not run GB roms, but you can't run ICS roms based on the 3.12 firmware. You can always reflash your firmware and downgrade if things don't work out, though.
Hmm.. thanks for answers. I recently became a fan of MIUI (was using 3
.12 ICS Sense before), but Sense 3.6 and the reports that its even more smooth makes me want to try it.
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That 3.24 firmware apparently causes some problems with one of the Sensation LCD panels and makes it have a blue tint.
And you can do some 3.24 ROMS on 3.12.
Virtuous Quattro is 3.24 based and I'm running it just fine on 3.12.
Hello Friends
I am a bit cunfused If I am reading experiences and problems from people using new ICS for HTC Sense.
My question is simple, flash ICS or wait until all bugs will be solved?
I am new in android so I have not any experiences to help developers somehow
and I don´t want to reinstall telephone so offen.
Thank you in advance for your help in this decision.
Why dont u give it a try then u'll know urself?
With me the leak ICS is stable enough.
I've used ARHD, and IC, both work great, and I didn't have any issues... fast, stable and great battery life. I'm currently on VI 3.5 since the lock screen caller ID issues has been fixed, and it's a great AOSP rom.
+1 on Virtuous Inquisition.
Official HTC ICS is coming out in March I believe. What isn't known is what HBOOT version it'll have. If might become hard/impossible to S-OFF if applying official ICS.
If you haven't already done so, s-off via revolutionary.io now, then it's done.
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+1 for Virtous.... just amazing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1408351
You won't regret it
Thank you to everybody for their answer, just for information I prefer Rom with Sense, so VI is nice, but probably not for me.
check this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849
i use it and it works great! with sense and beats on all headsets
Johan Kraczmar said:
Thank you to everybody for their answer, just for information I prefer Rom with Sense, so VI is nice, but probably not for me.
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Elegancia ICs is the one for you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1429953
Big theaming as well for the rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1444235
Steve
Try it
You can always go back if you don't like it
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Strange... I looked at Elegancia ROM ICS ant there is nothing about CID, Firmware, Radio.Just copy and flash over CWM. Why is so big difference between installation process or just autor of this ROM to forget to tell us.....
I know, Every time is possibility to go back, but need a time......
Thank for answers.
Using hypersensation 0.4 ics with no problems and excellent battert life.
Would not go back to gingerbread now.
Johan Kraczmar said:
Strange... I looked at Elegancia ROM ICS ant there is nothing about CID, Firmware, Radio.Just copy and flash over CWM. Why is so big difference between installation process or just autor of this ROM to forget to tell us.....
I know, Every time is possibility to go back, but need a time......
Thank for answers.
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You will need to super cid, and flash firmware. All the instructions are on the Elegance 1st page.
Steve
Thank you to all for their time and opinion.Now I am on Android 4.0.3 (Ice Cream Sandwich) + Sense UI 3.6 + Beats Audio
Johan Kraczmar said:
Thank you to all for their time and opinion.Now I am on Android 4.0.3 (Ice Cream Sandwich) + Sense UI 3.6 + Beats Audio
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How are you getting on with that ROM?
Johan Kraczmar said:
Thank you to all for their time and opinion.Now I am on Android 4.0.3 (Ice Cream Sandwich) + Sense UI 3.6 + Beats Audio
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Which rom did you flash
Steve
Flash ICS its good.
I personally like the look of stock ICS so i went with Virtuous Inquisition because nothing was really broken and is pretty stable. However, before I used Android Revolution HD 6.x.x for a while. It is also very stable. It all comes down to if you want stock or with HTC Sense. Also to mention, I never went back to Gingerbread. It's not optimized for dual core.
ICS is the only way to go Bro! It rocks and is progressive!
Can I S-Off now and still get ICS OTA in March?
Sorry for the n00b question but I was wondering if I can and should S-Off now or will that mess me up to get the ICS OTA in March?
I was actually using ARHD for GB but went back to stock since it was announced that ICS would come to the Sensation in March. I figured I could wait until my phone was "officially" updated before re-rooting. I didn't want to mess up the OTA update.
Is my thinking flawed? Will S-Off and rooting mess up the OTA or will it be okay?
ARHD was okay but some things didn't work correctly (Plants vs. Zombies kept restarting, another app got stuck, etc.). Does anyone know why? Is it the overclocking?
If you guys remember we got the sense 3 update leaked long before we expected it. I wonder if this will be the same for the ICS update. Anyone wonder if we will get a stable rom before the official release
It depends. We need people to leak the ruu
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I rooted my DS and am running Lowveld's excellent Reaper rom, when the HTC ICS update comes out, will I be able to get it over the air or will I need to wait for someone to upload it here........?
Andy3105 said:
I rooted my DS and am running Lowveld's excellent Reaper rom, when the HTC ICS update comes out, will I be able to get it over the air or will I need to wait for someone to upload it here........?
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You won't get an official HTC OTA update on a rooted phone with a Custom ROM... and if somehow you do manage to get one while on a Sense ROM, DO NOT flash it... you'll end up in a bootloop.
As far as getting to use it, you'll get it on XDA much before people on stock ROMs (if history is anything to go by...). Hell, I think you might be running Sense 4 before HTC decides to give you Sense 3.6 officially.
Google search for details.
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You won't get an official HTC OTA update on a rooted phone with a Custom ROM... and if somehow you do manage to get one while on a Sense ROM, DO NOT flash it... you'll end up in a bootloop.
As far as getting to use it, you'll get it on XDA much before people on stock ROMs (if history is anything to go by...). Hell, I think you might be running Sense 4 before HTC decides to give you Sense 3.6 officially.
Google search for details.
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Yeah I think we will get 4.0 before 3.6!
I'm sure the RUU for the One V will be out before our RUU for ICS.
Can't wait
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So, the official ICS RUU upgrade is here. I've had some experience with various custom ICS roms, and I found that I love Sense (3.6) and ICS.
Reading the prerequisites and other documentation got me thinking. I hope you guys can answer my questions, or some of them.
1. What does the ICS RUU have over custom ICS roms? I can't imagine anything, except for an updated radio perhaps?
This will help me determine whether I may get the ICS RUU or stay on a custom rom.
2. The prerequisite is having the HBOOT 2.00.2002 bootloader. Plenty links and instructions for backupping and flashing that, that will work.
However, *why* is is necessary to update it? Something to do with the size of the ICS RUU, which leads me to believe that the HBOOT 2.00.2002 is much smaller than my current alpharev 6.98.1002 HBOOT. But AFAIK (in general) bootloaders are quite small..
3. Are the any advantages to the HBOOT 2.00.2002 bootloader? Besides being to install the ICS RUU.
4. Since I'm thinking of updating other parts of my phone besides the OS itself (HBOOT, see point 2) I got thinking about the radio too.
My radio is version RADIO-3805.06.02.03_M
I have very poor reception in some parts of the country where I regurarly am (many weekends per year). Updating to the latest official Radio may give me better reception. Updating to what HTC considers the best radio firmware seems like a good idea, right?
Is this the wrong forum to ask these questions?
Quark^2 said:
1. What does the ICS RUU have over custom ICS roms? I can't imagine anything, except for an updated radio perhaps?
This will help me determine whether I may get the ICS RUU or stay on a custom rom.
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WiFi Hotspot is working.
Not everybody cares, I know, but I do.
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3. Are the any advantages to the HBOOT 2.00.2002 bootloader? Besides being to install the ICS RUU.
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Let's see... no need to go the X-Clip route to root your phone, just do an unlock and that's it.
You should do your research first as almost all has already been answered.
1. ICS that came out is official from HTC. That means its more stable, faster, and less buggy from their eyes. And may also be true if compared to other Custom ROMs. Its a matter of preference and ROM testing to see the differences.
2. The untouched ICS ROM also works for HBOOT v2.00.002 (came from Sense 3.0 release, Gingerbread). The HBOOT v2.02.002 (came from Sense 3.6 release, Ice Cream Sandwich) is an updated version of the latter. There maybe great changes, or maybe not. I have not seen any changelog from the net. Based on my experience, HBOOT from ICS does not want the System/Lib partition to be formatted via ROM flash from recovery. But the HBOOT from the GB can.
3. Not known yet. See number 2.
4. Yes and no. Yes, because HTC wants you to use the radio that is included from the RUU as they see fit that that is the best for its ROM. No, because some ROMs or its developers, same as HTC, prefers certain radios to be used, that is if you plan to use custom ROMs. Regarding your reception, the Desire S has already been found to have a lesser or weaker reception compared to other phones. Even older Nokia phones sometimes are better from it. Depends on your area as well.
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HBOOT Upgrade for HTC Desire CDMA ?
Hi,
Just wondering if its possible to Upgrade the HBoot version of HTC Desire CDMA
I am currently on HBoot ver 6.06.1002
Plz let me know
Regs,
Praveen
Skanob said:
You should do your research first as almost all has already been answered.
1. ICS that came out is official from HTC. That means its more stable, faster, and less buggy from their eyes. And may also be true if compared to other Custom ROMs. Its a matter of preference and ROM testing to see the differences.
2. The untouched ICS ROM also works for HBOOT v2.00.002 (came from Sense 3.0 release, Gingerbread). The HBOOT v2.02.002 (came from Sense 3.6 release, Ice Cream Sandwich) is an updated version of the latter. There maybe great changes, or maybe not. I have not seen any changelog from the net. Based on my experience, HBOOT from ICS does not want the System/Lib partition to be formatted via ROM flash from recovery. But the HBOOT from the GB can.
3. Not known yet. See number 2.
4. Yes and no. Yes, because HTC wants you to use the radio that is included from the RUU as they see fit that that is the best for its ROM. No, because some ROMs or its developers, same as HTC, prefers certain radios to be used, that is if you plan to use custom ROMs. Regarding your reception, the Desire S has already been found to have a lesser or weaker reception compared to other phones. Even older Nokia phones sometimes are better from it. Depends on your area as well.
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praveenrv said:
Hi,
Just wondering if its possible to Upgrade the HBoot version of HTC Desire CDMA
I am currently on HBoot ver 6.06.1002
Plz let me know
Regs,
Praveen
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Emm, im afraid this is the wrong thread, this is in the "Desire S" forum.
Hi Folks! I am completely new to XDA as well as all the android stuff, I used to be on Nokia before Forgive me if I have posted in the wrong section...
Basically I managed to upgrade my HTC Desire S to ICS 4.0.4 using the RUU on HTCDev.com. Having used it for about a month now, I want to go back to Gingerbread 2.3.5 Sense 2.1 as it is much easier on the battery as well as being much smoother to run. My problem is that from the shippedromes.com site, there are several gingerbread ruu's available, so out of this list (these are all europe), which one do i choose for Gingerbread 2.3.5 with Sense 2.1?:
1. RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.5_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_219480_signed.exe
2. RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.8_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_225161_signed.exe
3. RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.1_Radio_20.28b.30.0805U_38.03.02.11_M_release_177977_signed.exe
4. RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.9_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_234765_signed.exe
5. RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.47.401.4_Radio_20.28I.30.085AU_3805.06.02.03_M_release_199410_signed.exe
To me they all look the same but obviously there is some difference as they have different numbers in their file names.
Thanks in advance!
The trouble is you can't just flash a ruu version lower than the one running on your device (downgrade), because by default you can just upgrade.
See this thread for the procedure to downgrading.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318919
Be careful as you will probably lose your warranty doing this!
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totalnoob34 said:
The trouble is you can't just flash a ruu version lower than the one running on your device (downgrade), because by default you can just upgrade.
See this thread for the procedure to downgrading.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318919
Be careful as you will probably lose your warranty doing this!
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Thnx for your quick reply,
My phone is already over 1 year, so warrenty is is gone anayway I think!
I understand the procedure to downgrade my phone, such as changing the HBOOT, unlock bootloader, S-off, revolutionary, clockwork recovery etc. But when it comes to actually installing/flashing the Gingerbread RUU, which RUU should I used? I wan to downgrade to Gingerbread 2.3.5 (the one that shipped with the phone originally) with Sense 2.1. I'm in the U.K, and my phone is unbranded. It is also currently running Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0.4 with Sense 3.6. If you could inform me which RUU I should use from the list in my first post I will be very grateful.
Thnx again
The ruus with 2.10 at the beginning are definitely sense 3.0, I don't know which sense version 1.47 and 1.28 ruus are, but 1.28 will be the oldest.
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The ruus with 2.10 at the beginning are definitely sense 3.0, I don't know which sense version 1.47 and 1.28 ruus are, but 1.28 will be the oldest.
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Thanks alot! I think I will flash 1.28 first and see what it is. If not, I will probably flash 1.47 instead, which should be possible without anymore tinkering as it's a higher RUU.
And I definitely don't want Sense 3.0, I would rather stay on ICS then!
Thanks again for the quick answers!
There was never Sense 2.1 for this phone to begin with. Sense 3.0 is the earliest you can get.
This makes your question, well, void.
Any Gingerbread RUU will be fine.
1.28 is Sense 2.1.
1.47 is the same but with some fixes. I suggest to go with this.
The rest higher versions are with Sense 3, except the ICS RUU of course
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make sure u get the lowest version to get Hboot 0.98.0000 in order to proceed with the revolutionary to root ur device , if u have problem with scanoob post with the misc version let me know , his one doesnt work , i got working misc to downgrade the hboot.