So, the official ICS RUU upgrade is here. I've had some experience with various custom ICS roms, and I found that I love Sense (3.6) and ICS.
Reading the prerequisites and other documentation got me thinking. I hope you guys can answer my questions, or some of them.
1. What does the ICS RUU have over custom ICS roms? I can't imagine anything, except for an updated radio perhaps?
This will help me determine whether I may get the ICS RUU or stay on a custom rom.
2. The prerequisite is having the HBOOT 2.00.2002 bootloader. Plenty links and instructions for backupping and flashing that, that will work.
However, *why* is is necessary to update it? Something to do with the size of the ICS RUU, which leads me to believe that the HBOOT 2.00.2002 is much smaller than my current alpharev 6.98.1002 HBOOT. But AFAIK (in general) bootloaders are quite small..
3. Are the any advantages to the HBOOT 2.00.2002 bootloader? Besides being to install the ICS RUU.
4. Since I'm thinking of updating other parts of my phone besides the OS itself (HBOOT, see point 2) I got thinking about the radio too.
My radio is version RADIO-3805.06.02.03_M
I have very poor reception in some parts of the country where I regurarly am (many weekends per year). Updating to the latest official Radio may give me better reception. Updating to what HTC considers the best radio firmware seems like a good idea, right?
Is this the wrong forum to ask these questions?
Quark^2 said:
1. What does the ICS RUU have over custom ICS roms? I can't imagine anything, except for an updated radio perhaps?
This will help me determine whether I may get the ICS RUU or stay on a custom rom.
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WiFi Hotspot is working.
Not everybody cares, I know, but I do.
Quark^2 said:
3. Are the any advantages to the HBOOT 2.00.2002 bootloader? Besides being to install the ICS RUU.
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Let's see... no need to go the X-Clip route to root your phone, just do an unlock and that's it.
You should do your research first as almost all has already been answered.
1. ICS that came out is official from HTC. That means its more stable, faster, and less buggy from their eyes. And may also be true if compared to other Custom ROMs. Its a matter of preference and ROM testing to see the differences.
2. The untouched ICS ROM also works for HBOOT v2.00.002 (came from Sense 3.0 release, Gingerbread). The HBOOT v2.02.002 (came from Sense 3.6 release, Ice Cream Sandwich) is an updated version of the latter. There maybe great changes, or maybe not. I have not seen any changelog from the net. Based on my experience, HBOOT from ICS does not want the System/Lib partition to be formatted via ROM flash from recovery. But the HBOOT from the GB can.
3. Not known yet. See number 2.
4. Yes and no. Yes, because HTC wants you to use the radio that is included from the RUU as they see fit that that is the best for its ROM. No, because some ROMs or its developers, same as HTC, prefers certain radios to be used, that is if you plan to use custom ROMs. Regarding your reception, the Desire S has already been found to have a lesser or weaker reception compared to other phones. Even older Nokia phones sometimes are better from it. Depends on your area as well.
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HBOOT Upgrade for HTC Desire CDMA ?
Hi,
Just wondering if its possible to Upgrade the HBoot version of HTC Desire CDMA
I am currently on HBoot ver 6.06.1002
Plz let me know
Regs,
Praveen
Skanob said:
You should do your research first as almost all has already been answered.
1. ICS that came out is official from HTC. That means its more stable, faster, and less buggy from their eyes. And may also be true if compared to other Custom ROMs. Its a matter of preference and ROM testing to see the differences.
2. The untouched ICS ROM also works for HBOOT v2.00.002 (came from Sense 3.0 release, Gingerbread). The HBOOT v2.02.002 (came from Sense 3.6 release, Ice Cream Sandwich) is an updated version of the latter. There maybe great changes, or maybe not. I have not seen any changelog from the net. Based on my experience, HBOOT from ICS does not want the System/Lib partition to be formatted via ROM flash from recovery. But the HBOOT from the GB can.
3. Not known yet. See number 2.
4. Yes and no. Yes, because HTC wants you to use the radio that is included from the RUU as they see fit that that is the best for its ROM. No, because some ROMs or its developers, same as HTC, prefers certain radios to be used, that is if you plan to use custom ROMs. Regarding your reception, the Desire S has already been found to have a lesser or weaker reception compared to other phones. Even older Nokia phones sometimes are better from it. Depends on your area as well.
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praveenrv said:
Hi,
Just wondering if its possible to Upgrade the HBoot version of HTC Desire CDMA
I am currently on HBoot ver 6.06.1002
Plz let me know
Regs,
Praveen
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Emm, im afraid this is the wrong thread, this is in the "Desire S" forum.
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Hi All,
I am looking to jump into ICS and am wondering how stable is the lastest 3.24 version or 3.25 vers RUU from HTC?
Can I run the 3.25 LE version on a standard Sensation (non-XE)?
What bugs have been discovered so far?
I dont want to go to a modded version yet, just looking at the original RUUs.
Yes, I have S-Off, unlocked boot etc.
Cheers
Trev.
I am running Android Revolution HD 6.2.1 XE on my TMO US Sensation. Its worked exceptionally well, and I think it is more than stable enough for daily use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14192842&postcount=4
if you choose to try it out, make sure you use the XE version, as the Reg version's browser has some weird flicker going on (they patched the XE one already)
tlgerdes said:
Hi All,
I am looking to jump into ICS and am wondering how stable is the lastest 3.24 version or 3.25 vers RUU from HTC?
Can I run the 3.25 LE version on a standard Sensation (non-XE)?
What bugs have been discovered so far?
I dont want to go to a modded version yet, just looking at the original RUUs.
Yes, I have S-Off, unlocked boot etc.
Cheers
Trev.
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Yes you could Trev.
However do keep in mind that 3.25 ver RUU only only supports Sense 3.6 And above ROMs. Some say even 4.0.3 ASOP roms are not supported.
For bug wise, I don't remember there being bugs in any RUU firmware packages.
As for the above mentioned ARHD 6.2.1,
If you install the Radio, Firmware, Super Wipe & the ROM correctly,
I can guarantee you that it will be smooth like butter.
However I AM facing a particular bug which is me being unable to connect to any other WiFi Spots other than my WiFi Spot that I have used in the first Boot
Configuration. And also, the WiFi Hotspot problem, which can be solved using the Barnacle WiFi Tether From the Android Market.
Cheers
When the OTA update for ICS drops, will there be a way to root and S-OFF with Revolutionary like there is for Gingerbread? Or will flashing the currently available firmwares be necessary? I'm not sure how the update process will work, as far as these things. I guess my question is: How would I root and S-OFF when ICS drops for Sensation 4g users? Thanks in advance.
Prob not right away.
Remember if you do choose to recieve the stock ics ota that you need to flash the stock recovery or you will end with a brick. Someone please correct me if i am wrong.
But with upgraded FW 3.30 and roms such as virtuous and ARHD ICS theres really no need to update to the official ics. I do understand if you want the official ics though.
Hope this helps.
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Virtuous 3.0
vabeachfc3s said:
Prob not right away.
Remember if you do choose to recieve the stock ics ota that you need to flash the stock recovery or you will end with a brick. Someone please correct me if i am wrong.
But with upgraded FW 3.30 and roms such as virtuous and ARHD ICS theres really no need to update to the official ics. I do understand if you want the official ics though.
Hope this helps.
Sent From My Ice Cream Sensation
Virtuous 3.0
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Yeah, I've been trying to decide whether to go back to full stock (S-ON, etc.) and go the OTA way or just do it with the user-friendly firmwares, but I'm pretty hesitant to do the latter because of the chance of bricking. How likely is the chance of a mistake somehow being made, even if the appropriate steps are taken? I mean, I've seen all these threads with people seemingly doing it right but still ending up with bootloops, so I'm quite apprehensive about the whole thing.
Edit: Also, is the final ICS firmware backwards compatible with Gingerbread ROMs, by any chance?
Na. Ics has to run on 3.24 fw and up
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Virtuous 3.0
vabeachfc3s said:
Prob not right away.
Remember if you do choose to recieve the stock ics ota that you need to flash the stock recovery or you will end with a brick. Someone please correct me if i am wrong.
But with upgraded FW 3.30 and roms such as virtuous and ARHD ICS theres really no need to update to the official ics. I do understand if you want the official ics though.
Hope this helps.
Sent From My Ice Cream Sensation
Virtuous 3.0
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You shouldn't end up with a brick if you don't have the stock recovery. I had the real stock experience Rom android 2.3.3 and when I did the software search it found the android 2.3.4 update. I downloaded it but all it says is you have made modifications to your phone...the update won't work.
Also. There is currently NO information whatsoever if revolutionary will update, and if it will support the sensation at all. If it did though I could fix my phone. Personally I'd go for the newest arhd although I can't. It's better than the official will be, I'm guessing that after a week or two sense will start to crash again. No matter what HTC have said.
I did the same as Sensation Lover. Coming from a stock 2.3.4, S-OFF and rooted. After the update completed it just stuck at the HTC splash screen upon reboot.
I just ended up reflashing the 1.50 TMO RUU and then did the update. I was S-OFF before the update via HTC Dev and that stayed.
If you are soff dont go back to son for the update. Like others have already said. You can flash the stock recovery then just use ota with soff. If you decide you want to root it'll be pretty simple
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Hi Folks! I am completely new to XDA as well as all the android stuff, I used to be on Nokia before Forgive me if I have posted in the wrong section...
Basically I managed to upgrade my HTC Desire S to ICS 4.0.4 using the RUU on HTCDev.com. Having used it for about a month now, I want to go back to Gingerbread 2.3.5 Sense 2.1 as it is much easier on the battery as well as being much smoother to run. My problem is that from the shippedromes.com site, there are several gingerbread ruu's available, so out of this list (these are all europe), which one do i choose for Gingerbread 2.3.5 with Sense 2.1?:
1. RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.5_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_219480_signed.exe
2. RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.8_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_225161_signed.exe
3. RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.1_Radio_20.28b.30.0805U_38.03.02.11_M_release_177977_signed.exe
4. RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.9_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_234765_signed.exe
5. RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.47.401.4_Radio_20.28I.30.085AU_3805.06.02.03_M_release_199410_signed.exe
To me they all look the same but obviously there is some difference as they have different numbers in their file names.
Thanks in advance!
The trouble is you can't just flash a ruu version lower than the one running on your device (downgrade), because by default you can just upgrade.
See this thread for the procedure to downgrading.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318919
Be careful as you will probably lose your warranty doing this!
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totalnoob34 said:
The trouble is you can't just flash a ruu version lower than the one running on your device (downgrade), because by default you can just upgrade.
See this thread for the procedure to downgrading.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318919
Be careful as you will probably lose your warranty doing this!
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Thnx for your quick reply,
My phone is already over 1 year, so warrenty is is gone anayway I think!
I understand the procedure to downgrade my phone, such as changing the HBOOT, unlock bootloader, S-off, revolutionary, clockwork recovery etc. But when it comes to actually installing/flashing the Gingerbread RUU, which RUU should I used? I wan to downgrade to Gingerbread 2.3.5 (the one that shipped with the phone originally) with Sense 2.1. I'm in the U.K, and my phone is unbranded. It is also currently running Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0.4 with Sense 3.6. If you could inform me which RUU I should use from the list in my first post I will be very grateful.
Thnx again
The ruus with 2.10 at the beginning are definitely sense 3.0, I don't know which sense version 1.47 and 1.28 ruus are, but 1.28 will be the oldest.
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The ruus with 2.10 at the beginning are definitely sense 3.0, I don't know which sense version 1.47 and 1.28 ruus are, but 1.28 will be the oldest.
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Thanks alot! I think I will flash 1.28 first and see what it is. If not, I will probably flash 1.47 instead, which should be possible without anymore tinkering as it's a higher RUU.
And I definitely don't want Sense 3.0, I would rather stay on ICS then!
Thanks again for the quick answers!
There was never Sense 2.1 for this phone to begin with. Sense 3.0 is the earliest you can get.
This makes your question, well, void.
Any Gingerbread RUU will be fine.
1.28 is Sense 2.1.
1.47 is the same but with some fixes. I suggest to go with this.
The rest higher versions are with Sense 3, except the ICS RUU of course
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make sure u get the lowest version to get Hboot 0.98.0000 in order to proceed with the revolutionary to root ur device , if u have problem with scanoob post with the misc version let me know , his one doesnt work , i got working misc to downgrade the hboot.
Whoops what sounded like a success story ended in a brick story.
Lets wait and see if anyone can downgrade on their on accord without bricking before I put this back up.
Yeah, would be interesting to see if anyone does this and succeeds where I failed and see what procedural differences there were.
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Umm I downgraded from jelly bean back down to the 4.04 version of viper Rom with no problems ?
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The_Zodiac said:
Umm I downgraded from jelly bean back down to the 4.04 version of viper Rom with no problems ?
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That sounds like you had some random cooked ROM on your phone and not one of the official HTC 3.17 updates that delivered official JB 4.1 to the One XL.
Some random cooked ROM can be changed whenever, there is no story in that.
A phone that has a full 3.17 update including updated firmwares like hboot 2.14 etc is an entirely different story.
Many many users are on official HTC 3.17(JB 4.1) which severely impacts their ability to customize things.
Many are looking for a downgrade path back to previous HTC builds from the 4.0.4 era.
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That sounds like you had some random cooked ROM on your phone and not one of the official HTC 3.17 updates that delivered official JB 4.1 to the One XL.
Some random cooked ROM can be changed whenever, there is no story in that.
A phone that has a full 3.17 update including updated firmwares like hboot 2.14 etc is an entirely different story.
Many many users are on official HTC 3.17(JB 4.1) which severely impacts their ability to customize things.
Many are looking for a downgrade path back to previous HTC builds from the 4.0.4 era.
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Ah no one ever said out official
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twistedddx said:
That sounds like you had some random cooked ROM on your phone and not one of the official HTC 3.17 updates that delivered official JB 4.1 to the One XL.
Some random cooked ROM can be changed whenever, there is no story in that.
A phone that has a full 3.17 update including updated firmwares like hboot 2.14 etc is an entirely different story.
Many many users are on official HTC 3.17(JB 4.1) which severely impacts their ability to customize things.
Many are looking for a downgrade path back to previous HTC builds from the 4.0.4 era.
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So you are either talking about a JB RUU or a JB OTA right? You are not talking about any of the 3.17 Roms that are in development are you? Just not real clear according to what has been posted so far.
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So you are either talking about a JB RUU or a JB OTA right?
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Members of this website accept OTA's?
Who ever heard of such..
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That sounds like you had some random cooked ROM on your phone and not one of the official HTC 3.17 updates that delivered official JB 4.1 to the One XL.
Some random cooked ROM can be changed whenever, there is no story in that.
A phone that has a full 3.17 update including updated firmwares like hboot 2.14 etc is an entirely different story.
Many many users are on official HTC 3.17(JB 4.1) which severely impacts their ability to customize things.
Many are looking for a downgrade path back to previous HTC builds from the 4.0.4 era.
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That's why you make a full backup. Did it today. Went from 2.4 viper to aokp 4.2.1 and then got tired of it. So I nandroided to viper hahah just saying
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wdkingery said:
Members of this website accept OTA's?
Who ever heard of such..
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Most don't lol
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Kole_Ackerson said:
That's why you make a full backup
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I doubt you have more than a backup of a few partitions(system, data etc) but not the other 30 or so. That is not a "full backup" and would not reverse this issue.
This problem is not caused by the Rom installed on system hence why this is not a simple thing to fix so far. That is why a user that did everything that was previously required to downgrade ended up with a permanently bricked phone that required replacing.
Phones will begin to ship with 3.17 and newer HTC builds everywhere soon enough. Sticking our heads in the sand and thinking this is only an issue to those that accept an ota is very short sighted.
Also HTC is updating firmware things on the phone that could potentially be benefitial to the phone that users avoiding newer ruu and ota will miss. Afaik the dsp firmware is the i/o controller of the phone and has been updated in all HTC updates so far, it is likely more important to the phones correct operation than the radio firmware but is never really mentioned on xda.
hi
after my flashing exploits and managing to brick my htc one xl i am a little weary of messing around with it this time
last time i was trying to achieve s-off and corrupted the boot and image
managed to get it repaired and it has come back with custom recovery and is now s-off
is it true that sense 5 has been officially released?
my htc used to be on Asia htc006
the guy fixing it has installed custom recovery for me
can i run a ruu to take me to sense 5 ? or should i just install a custom rom?
thanks in advance
Sense 5 has been officially released. No need to run an RUU or anything, just flash one of the Sense 5 ROMs from our development section here. There are a few to choose from, ranging from completely stock to custom features. They're all based on the official update though.
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timmaaa said:
Sense 5 has been officially released. No need to run an RUU or anything, just flash one of the Sense 5 ROMs from our development section here. There are a few to choose from, ranging from completely stock to custom features. They're all based on the official update though.
Sent from my Evita
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does it matter what hboot and panel firmware i am on?
ps thanks for the reply
They shouldn't matter. Some users experience signal drops and reboots on those ROMs though, which can be fixed by either flashing the Beastmode kernel or updating the firmware to the 2.15 version.
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emu123 said:
is it true that sense 5 has been officially released?
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It would have taken you about 5 seconds to look in the Development section, and any number of other threads, and answer that question for yourself.
As mentioned, no need to run the RUU, and I'm not even sure RUUs are available for Sense 5 ROMs yet, anyway.