[Q] Dock mode..... I know another.. - HTC Sensation

Has anyone tried to trick our phone into thinking its in a htc dock to get the dock mode to kick in? i was thinking maybe trying to bridge a few pins on the usb. anyone think/heard of something like this working?

Yes there is a thread on this. Involves placing a particular ohm resistor across certain lines of the the cable

What was the thread called?
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I dunno about you, but I have a dock mode icon in my app drawer, and when I click that, it turns on.

I do not have a dock mode icon in my tray. Tmo sensation, idk, but maybe that's why.
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Finland_2_Cupertino said:
I do not have a dock mode icon in my tray. Tmo sensation, idk, but maybe that's why.
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You need a third party launcher to be able to see it. Rosie hides the shortcut.
Install launcher pro or adw and you'll see it show up in the app drawer.

Finland_2_Cupertino said:
What was the thread called?
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To build a usb cable that will place your phone in dock mode (either car or desk) see these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1133956&page=14
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820275 (for Samsung but the resistor values might be applicable)

I just use Dock Simulator to launch Home Dock. I have it setup to launch automatically when connected to a charging source. Don't need it with the oem car dock since it has the pin outs.
US T-Mo Sensation - stock not rooted.

Thanks for the help guys. I'm really trying for the inline usb trick. If I get it going expect a write up.
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Finland_2_Cupertino said:
Thanks for the help guys. I'm really trying for the inline usb trick. If I get it going expect a write up.
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Please!
"ID Pin Resistance on Mini B-plugs and Micro B-plugs Increased to 1 Mohm
Mandate: Required
Effective Date: December, 2009
The resistance to ground on ID pin 4 for mini B-plugs and micro B-plugs has been increased to 1,000,000 Ohms minimum. The Engineering Change Notice is part of the download of the USB 2.0 Specification."
http://compliance.usb.org/index.asp?UpdateFile=Cables and Connectors&Format=Standard
Also: http://www.kineteka.com/microusb-b.aspx
I think you connect pin 4 to pin 5. Not sure if a resistor is required between them.

I just bought the Seidio dock from their site and it works great. Phone does into dock mode as soon as you put it on the dock, whether a power source is plugged in or not. For $40 it was a pretty good purchase.

CyberStorm98 said:
I just bought the Seidio dock from their site and it works great. Phone does into dock mode as soon as you put it on the dock, whether a power source is plugged in or not. For $40 it was a pretty good purchase.
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Open it and take a picture of the connector. I need to know what makes it go into that mode! Please!
A resistor? Diode? Just some wire?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16961401#post16961401

Dock mode - 70 kOhms resistor between pin4 and ground (pin 5)
Car mode - 9.1 kOhms resistor between pin4 and ground (pin 5)

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dock ?

anyone found a decent dock for the desire ?
I intend to use my G1 dock at least initially, but will have to see how the Desire fits with it. There aren't any currently available on eBay which is odd given they usually have floods of stuff before the actual phones come out.
The Desire has the other kind of micro USB connection to the G1 so not cross compatible
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FoleyIsGood said:
The Desire has the other kind of micro USB connection to the G1 so not cross compatible
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My dock, along with most unofficial ones has the non-HTC micro USB connector.
Obviously, with the desire being somewhat slimmer than its ancestor I am not sure this will work, but if not I shall just use the USB cable till I can get one that does.
Easydevices have four versions on preorder - standard, with second battery slot, with second slot and spare battery and with second slot and extended battery.
great find norm....hope they are available soon!
Please bear in mind that the G1 uses HTC proprietary ExtUSB connector which is based on MiniUSB, not MicroUSB which is the standard, and the one the Desire uses.
Please see this image:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Types-usb_new.svg/220px-Types-usb_new.svg.png
norm2002 said:
Easydevices have four versions on preorder - standard, with second battery slot, with second slot and spare battery and with second slot and extended battery.
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Perfect - just what I'm after. The dock with spare battery.
Zappza said:
Please bear in mind that the G1 uses HTC proprietary ExtUSB connector which is based on MiniUSB, not MicroUSB which is the standard, and the one the Desire uses.
Please see this image:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Types-usb_new.svg/220px-Types-usb_new.svg.png
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Yes, my bad. I have had to chuck my G1 Dock into the draw with my G1, will wait an see if anything else becomes available.
looks good but the battery is bigger? bet the backing case would be well ugly lol
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anyone tried this :
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/desk-genie-non-slip-charging-desk-stand-p22432.htm
seriously looking for a dock for htc desire....
anyone seen any?
i've been looking everywhere.....
please psot here if you found any...
i can't buy it from mobiefun because they don't send to Aus.
@ mrdo
got mine today but from play.com (same kit better price...) very pleased and am typing on my desire while it charges. for some reason it slips a bit with the charger plugged in but then the charger stops it slipping right off. without the charger only thing that's making it slide a bit is having the vibrating keyboard turned on! will probably also get the basic easy devices one too (for overnight charging/alarm duties) if the free delivery offer works.
hope this helps
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I take it the nexus one dock wont work on the Desire then? Why would google want seperate dock pins when they could just use the micro usb?!?
http ://www.google .com/support/android/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=167603
Because it is very convenient to just drop the phone in the charging cradle, and it makes it much easier to charge the phone while in a dock.
I totally understand why the Nexus have them, but not why the Desire does not.
yeah i suppose but also seems like quite an overhead in terms of manufacturing + something else to go wrong whether interally or when contacts get dirty vs the millisecond difference between drop or push?
Plus doesn't it negate the ability to sync/have Aux out for music/handfree. Ive also heard its quite loose and people knock the phone on the floor trying to snooze the alarm
http ://www.google .com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=25980aeec5970c4f&hl=en
Cant wait for the easydevices one with second battery slot!
bridgstfer said:
Plus doesn't it negate the ability to sync/have Aux out for music/handfree.
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Their solution to aux out was to use bluetooth AD2P from the phone to the dock and then aux out on the dock to your stereo system.
I bought one from mopeth mobiles.. http://www.morpethmobiles.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=/A11/_AD_HTC_Desire_USB_Cradle&cat=627
Come this morning with a spare 1200 battery.. I may buy a seidio one next week and give my 1200 to my mate.. but it fits nice and snug perfectly, got a lot of LED indicators and also charges a spare battery!
Could you take a couple of photos? would it fit with a skin?
has anyone purchased this dock?
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/htc-desire-dual-desktop-charging-cradle-p24217.htm

[Q] Docking station?

Does anyone know if the HTC Desire Z support a proper docking station like the Motorola Milestone does?
I've bought some cheapo dock off Amazon, and it charges the phone fine, but there doesn't seem to be a special dock mode like the Milestone had (it used to know it was in the dock by rotating the screen and acting like a Desk Clock). Strangely, the desire Z has a desk clock app, but the app doesn't automatically start, nor does it use landscape mode unless you open the keyboard.
This could either be because its a cheapo dock or the desire Z just lacks the magnetic switch to tell the phone that it's in a dock. Anyone know?
Which dock did you purchase? I haven't been able to find any on Amazon specifically for the Desire Z (tried searching as the G2 also). I have seen a few different ones on Ebay but they all look cheap and are coming from overseas...
It's this one:
w w w . a m a z o n . c o . u k /gp/product/B004AH22NC/ref=oss_product
(sorry, newbies can't post proper links)
It has one captive USB cable that goes to your computer, then a micro-USB socket that connects to your charger. It looks pretty cheap and nasty and doesn't completely surround the side of the Desire Z, so you have to 'aim' it onto the USB connector that sticks out of the base.
It's ok, but not great.
That looks just like the ones that are being sold on Ebay. Price is about the same but they are shipping from Hong Kong...
Tbh, it's a bit rubbish. I just found out that if I have it plugged into both a computer (for syncing) and the charger (for charging when my computer is off at night), it will get confused and won't send any power to the phone (the amber/green LED isn't turned). It also causes my computers bios to hang for 10-15 seconds when it boots.
I wouldn't recommend getting it. Hopefully someone makes a better dock
Thanks for the heads up as I was considering ordering one for myself (would take 2-3 weeks to get here anyhow). I'm sure its only a matter of time until someone makes a more official one for the G2 or the Desire Z.
yesterday i recieved the docking station from Ebay
: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250725370529 :
Quality is awesome, long cable.. fits perfect on my desk.. if you search for a dockingstation i recomen this 1.
Ordered the one in Roachie's post.
Now waiting for it
some pics:
@sergioka: Are you satisfied with build quality and overall impression?
It has a good quality,
but it was a little bit hard to put the device on it, because of the usb connector.
You should put the docking station on a higher place to look on the display, the device looks only to one direction, to the front.
bye,
sergioka
here, with the Zee on it:
added info:
The LEDs are very bright
Got mine today and I'm satisfied with it, too. Looks good, usb fits nicely into the Z, no wiggle or shaking. I just wish stock sense would landscape the home screen without having to open the keyboard.
BlackMountainCow said:
Got mine today and I'm satisfied with it, too. Looks good, usb fits nicely into the Z, no wiggle or shaking. I just wish stock sense would landscape the home screen without having to open the keyboard.
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is there not an option in the setting menu when you click on display
(eg.
Settings>Display>Auto Rotation)
BlackMountainCow said:
Got mine today and I'm satisfied with it, too. Looks good, usb fits nicely into the Z, no wiggle or shaking. I just wish stock sense would landscape the home screen without having to open the keyboard.
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I had the same problem with stock rom. Now, with CM, there's no problem
MacaronyMax said:
is there not an option in the setting menu when you click on display
(eg. Settings>Display>Auto Rotation)
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The option is there, but to no avail. If I uncheck it, Sense won't turn to landscape at all. If I turn to landscape first and then uncheck it, Sense will return to vertical as well. I just don't see why Sense doesn't landscape when all lists, menus and apps do so automatically.
@sergioka A few questions about the dock:
1) I noticed on the back there is a micro USB as well as the USB lead comming out the unit. To charge the G2/DZ can you just plug the USB into the plug adaptor or do you have to use the supplied plug?
2) I noticed the spare battery port on the back, do you have to have a battery in there for the unit to charge or can you leave that unused?
3) Do you have to have the device open with the keyboard on show or will be work in the closed position?
4) And my long shot question, Does it automaticly start the clock app when you plug it in? (I can dream!)
Sorry to ask so many questions, its just I'm after a dock to put beside my bed so that i can use my G2 as my alarm clock etc.
Thanks in advance
Here are my answers
KarlosTheJackal said:
@sergioka A few questions about the dock:
1) I noticed on the back there is a micro USB as well as the USB lead comming out the unit. To charge the G2/DZ can you just plug the USB into the plug adaptor or do you have to use the supplied plug?
1) I only use USB
2) I noticed the spare battery port on the back, do you have to have a battery in there for the unit to charge or can you leave that unused?
2)You can leave it unused
3) Do you have to have the device open with the keyboard on show or will be work in the closed position?
3) You can close it, I only opened it for marketing reasons
4) And my long shot question, Does it automaticly start the clock app when you plug it in? (I can dream!)
4) Hmm, is there a menu where I can config such a thing? At this moment : no
Sorry to ask so many questions, its just I'm after a dock to put beside my bed so that i can use my G2 as my alarm clock etc.
Thanks in advance
No Problem mate! Hope it helps
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sergioka said:
Here are my answers
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Looks like I'm ordering one of these! Thank you so much
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KarlosTheJackal said:
@sergioka A few questions about the dock:
4) And my long shot question, Does it automaticly start the clock app when you plug it in? (I can dream!)
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I use "Kaloer clock" for this purpose. You can configure it to automatically start upon charge and much more:

5 Metal Spots running down Rear Right Side

Just wondering what the 5 metal spots running down the lower rear right side of the phone are for? A rapid charging dock??
I believe that's the dock charging contacts
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Pogopin docking
On a related note... I noticed that the HTC Car Dock does not have the contacts for the pogopin. How does it know to automatically launch Car mode when it's inserted into the dock? Are there embedded magnets or something?
rushwal said:
On a related note... I noticed that the HTC Car Dock does not have the contacts for the pogopin. How does it know to automatically launch Car mode when it's inserted into the dock? Are there embedded magnets or something?
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No there's something in the usb cable that triggers it, like an extra lead or something.
The car dock will not use those pins.
The car mode is trigged probably by an resistor between pins 4 and 5 in the USB cable.
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Dock pins? anyone know the pinout?

Just wondering if anyone knows the pinout for the 5 contacts on the back so i could make myself a speaker/charger dock until an official one becomes more available.
I've wondered this myself. After running a meter across the pins. Pins 2&4 seem to accept a voltage pin 5 is a ground I think. I feel through a guesstament that it follows the USB pinout in flat lateral form.
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Usually I would literally just test each pin to see what was what but obviously being an expensive phone and canceling my insirance I do not want to short anything out, and yes it seems logical for one of the end contacts to be a ground, did you put a voltage into pin 2 & 4? If so how much?
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I've been getting read to cut an older USB cable and test that way. But I used 4.4 volts. I to don't want to kill the warranty by ripping the phone apart. After I cut the USB I'm going to make a jig and do tests. If I find anything out I'll post here.
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It's the micro USB pinout in pogo form..
1. 5vcc
2. Data -
3. Data +
4. Audio out mono
5. Ground.
Left to right pinout with the camera facing your left shoulder.
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Thank you, I shall post a pic of homemade dock when I have the time to make one.
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Ok. I tested. Connected HTC ONE X to lab power supply (5V 1A limit) and after a while (2-3 seconds) is started charging and 0.44A was flowing into phone. It was almost fully charged at the time.
Does anybody know how to get audio out on audio out pin?
And why Data - pin has 1,8V in reference to ground at all times?
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Ok. I measured again. 0.44A and phone goes to charging (USB). I don't have time today to see what happens if you connect Data + adn - pins...
But still no luck with audio.
dkirchik said:
It's the micro USB pinout in pogo form..
1. 5vcc
2. Data -
3. Data +
4. Audio out mono
5. Ground.
Left to right pinout with the camera facing your left shoulder.
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can you do USB OTG out via POGO?
z0bug33 said:
can you do USB OTG out via POGO?
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i wonder that too, "4. Audio out mono" is this really correct ? or is it the yellow identifier in a normal micro usb
Vcek said:
i wonder that too, "4. Audio out mono" is this really correct ? or is it the yellow identifier in a normal micro usb
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hey guys you can check this site out http://techno-fix.com/ . i found my pinout searches there. there are very usefull things
hey guys i just had this thing in mind...many a times my hands get a bit sweaty or its very habitual for me to kinda use the phone wid wet hands..
can the contact with the docking pins cause any issue?

Hyperion Dock

Got mine off amazon. Does not activate dock mode.
Is it defective?
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No I think it is the way it was designed. Doesn't use the pins on the back and you have a microusb nub that sticks up for you to connect to.
Hd04 said:
No I think it is the way it was designed. Doesn't use the pins on the back and you have a microusb nub that sticks up for you to connect to.
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Well...It doesn't necessarily have to use the pogo pins to activate dock mode. For example the official car dock will launch the Car application when the phone is docked even though it uses usb. It's all in how the connector is pinned out.
Having two of these I can say neither activate dock mode.
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I'm sure you could get an nfc tag, stick it to the dock and have the phone launch the dock mode when it detects the tag. Of course, this solution leaves the phone in dock mode when you undock it and I'm not sure what happens if you just kinda leave the phone sitting on top of the tag like that and try to do other stuff.
If the tag is too low for the phone to detect I'm sure you could jury rig something to raise the tag closer to the center of the phone.
H4x the cable or order one already modded. I just ordered two cables. 1 for car and 1 for night stand.
id10terrordfw said:
Having two of these I can say neither activate dock mode.
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Install "any cut" from the play store, open it and pick new shortcut. The find HTC Dock mode and select that. Now at least you have a icon on your home screen to get into dock mode even though your dock doesn't automatically trip it.
nugzo said:
H4x the cable or order one already modded. I just ordered two cables. 1 for car and 1 for night stand.
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can you give a link to what this is?
nugzo said:
H4x the cable or order one already modded. I just ordered two cables. 1 for car and 1 for night stand.
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Does the dock mode turn off the soft key lights? That's my issue right now because using my phone as an alarm clock at night, the dang soft key buttons are way too bright!
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