Hyperion Dock - AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL

Got mine off amazon. Does not activate dock mode.

Is it defective?
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No I think it is the way it was designed. Doesn't use the pins on the back and you have a microusb nub that sticks up for you to connect to.

Hd04 said:
No I think it is the way it was designed. Doesn't use the pins on the back and you have a microusb nub that sticks up for you to connect to.
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Well...It doesn't necessarily have to use the pogo pins to activate dock mode. For example the official car dock will launch the Car application when the phone is docked even though it uses usb. It's all in how the connector is pinned out.

Having two of these I can say neither activate dock mode.
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I'm sure you could get an nfc tag, stick it to the dock and have the phone launch the dock mode when it detects the tag. Of course, this solution leaves the phone in dock mode when you undock it and I'm not sure what happens if you just kinda leave the phone sitting on top of the tag like that and try to do other stuff.
If the tag is too low for the phone to detect I'm sure you could jury rig something to raise the tag closer to the center of the phone.

H4x the cable or order one already modded. I just ordered two cables. 1 for car and 1 for night stand.

id10terrordfw said:
Having two of these I can say neither activate dock mode.
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Install "any cut" from the play store, open it and pick new shortcut. The find HTC Dock mode and select that. Now at least you have a icon on your home screen to get into dock mode even though your dock doesn't automatically trip it.

nugzo said:
H4x the cable or order one already modded. I just ordered two cables. 1 for car and 1 for night stand.
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can you give a link to what this is?

nugzo said:
H4x the cable or order one already modded. I just ordered two cables. 1 for car and 1 for night stand.
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Does the dock mode turn off the soft key lights? That's my issue right now because using my phone as an alarm clock at night, the dang soft key buttons are way too bright!
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Adding a Magnet to car/desk dock to enable modes?

Our phones have a magnetic sensor and I'm assuming that's how Samsung's docks automatically pull up the car/desk dock apps. So does anyone know what type of magnets (if this is how it works) and where they would need to be placed if you wanted to either mod a 3rd party dock or make your own?
Just do what i did with my old droid. I used the magnet.out of a phone holster, i ran it over the back till it activated, i marked the spot and made a cradle. The opposite side of the magnet should activate the.other mode......,, ie positive turned on car dock, negative turned on desk clock.
justin94 said:
Just do what i did with my old droid. I used the magnet.out of a phone holster, i ran it over the back till it activated, i marked the spot and made a cradle. The opposite side of the magnet should activate the.other mode......,, ie positive turned on car dock, negative turned on desk clock.
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Guessing I need to use a weak one ha
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I tried it this morning and i couldn't find that sweet spot for the magnet to activate
justin94 said:
I tried it this morning and i couldn't find that sweet spot for the magnet to activate
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hmm, maybe it's more to it than that on the galaxy?
Did you have your phone plugged in when you tried? That could be a condition..
There does not appear to be a magnet in the car dock, it seems the dock screen activation is linked to the micro usb connector on the dock. I checked the entire car dock with a paperclip and found no magnet. When you install the phone into the dock it will only activate the dock screen when you slide the top piece into the micro usb connector..
rich1az said:
There does not appear to be a magnet in the car dock, it seems the dock screen activation is linked to the micro usb connector on the dock. I checked the entire car dock with a paperclip and found no magnet. When you install the phone into the dock it will only activate the dock screen when you slide the top piece into the micro usb connector..
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Damn samsung, why you wanna do that? I would have loved to buy both docks if they allowed the phone to be in a case
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Yeah, I just ordered a dock for the express purpose of opening it up and analyzing the special usb connection. I need to make a custom dock/cable for mounting in the dash of my car.
Buji said:
Yeah, I just ordered a dock for the express purpose of opening it up and analyzing the special usb connection. I need to make a custom dock/cable for mounting in the dash of my car.
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cool... please post your findings..
elijahblake said:
cool... please post your findings..
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Will do, but right now I can say this thing's not going to be easy to get into without tearing it up.
Buji said:
Will do, but right now I can say this thing's not going to be easy to get into without tearing it up.
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I believe ya on that... I had the desk dock for a day or two, but took it back since I couldn't keep my case on it... I didn't really inspect it too much for screws though.

Preffered position of USB Port?

I haven't seen a thread about this yet, so I figured I'd make one. Where do you guys prefer your USB ports to be located on your device? I prefer that they're located on the bottom. Tell me what you think.
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I prefer them to be on the bottom as well. Both of my previous phones have had them on the bottom, so I guess what I'm just used to.
beanboy89 said:
I prefer them to be on the bottom as well. Both of my previous phones have had them on the bottom, so I guess what I'm just used to.
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I feel you. I'll be using my friends Galaxy S, and I'd try plugging it into the bottom, only to realize that it's located on the top. -___-
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Why put it anywhere else other than at the bottom, if you buy a dock , hold you device while it's charging, bad design if it's anywhere else
THUDUK said:
Why put it anywhere else other than at the bottom, if you buy a dock , hold you device while it's charging, bad design if it's anywhere else
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Try telling HTC or Samsung that
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Depends, if it's a portrait phone, I like it to be on the bottom. However, if it's more of a landscape phone, I like it to be on the left of the phone. I'm right handed so if I gotta charge it while talking, my palm won't be in an awkward position.
The bottom, but I don't think phone need USB ports, they should just charge through induction
Yeah I still want it to have usb even with induction charge ability.
I have an inspire 4g, the USB is on the bottom next to the 3.5mm Jack. I really wish HTC would have not put the 3.5mm plug on the bottom, it's ridiculous.. the USB is fine on the bottom tho ,helps with docks too if you have one.
I have a Droid incredible 2... leave it up to HTC to have my 3.5 mm on the top and my USB on the left
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thanks a lot
thanks a lot
At the bottom, so you can handle your phone the best while plugged in
At the bottom
I have a Captivate so its on the top, its perfect for when you're charging it on a car cuz you can put it in the cupholder But I prefer it on the side, doesn't bothers when you're gaming and you have to charge your phone.
I have a Milestone and the USB port is on the left side.
It has pros and cons.
On the side is good if I use the phone in landscape while charging but it really sucks when I want to phone.
A phone with only inductive charging would be really bad as I use my phone when it is charging and that would be really hard then.

[Q] Dock mode..... I know another..

Has anyone tried to trick our phone into thinking its in a htc dock to get the dock mode to kick in? i was thinking maybe trying to bridge a few pins on the usb. anyone think/heard of something like this working?
Yes there is a thread on this. Involves placing a particular ohm resistor across certain lines of the the cable
What was the thread called?
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I dunno about you, but I have a dock mode icon in my app drawer, and when I click that, it turns on.
I do not have a dock mode icon in my tray. Tmo sensation, idk, but maybe that's why.
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Finland_2_Cupertino said:
I do not have a dock mode icon in my tray. Tmo sensation, idk, but maybe that's why.
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You need a third party launcher to be able to see it. Rosie hides the shortcut.
Install launcher pro or adw and you'll see it show up in the app drawer.
Finland_2_Cupertino said:
What was the thread called?
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To build a usb cable that will place your phone in dock mode (either car or desk) see these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1133956&page=14
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820275 (for Samsung but the resistor values might be applicable)
I just use Dock Simulator to launch Home Dock. I have it setup to launch automatically when connected to a charging source. Don't need it with the oem car dock since it has the pin outs.
US T-Mo Sensation - stock not rooted.
Thanks for the help guys. I'm really trying for the inline usb trick. If I get it going expect a write up.
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Finland_2_Cupertino said:
Thanks for the help guys. I'm really trying for the inline usb trick. If I get it going expect a write up.
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Please!
"ID Pin Resistance on Mini B-plugs and Micro B-plugs Increased to 1 Mohm
Mandate: Required
Effective Date: December, 2009
The resistance to ground on ID pin 4 for mini B-plugs and micro B-plugs has been increased to 1,000,000 Ohms minimum. The Engineering Change Notice is part of the download of the USB 2.0 Specification."
http://compliance.usb.org/index.asp?UpdateFile=Cables and Connectors&Format=Standard
Also: http://www.kineteka.com/microusb-b.aspx
I think you connect pin 4 to pin 5. Not sure if a resistor is required between them.
I just bought the Seidio dock from their site and it works great. Phone does into dock mode as soon as you put it on the dock, whether a power source is plugged in or not. For $40 it was a pretty good purchase.
CyberStorm98 said:
I just bought the Seidio dock from their site and it works great. Phone does into dock mode as soon as you put it on the dock, whether a power source is plugged in or not. For $40 it was a pretty good purchase.
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Open it and take a picture of the connector. I need to know what makes it go into that mode! Please!
A resistor? Diode? Just some wire?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16961401#post16961401
Dock mode - 70 kOhms resistor between pin4 and ground (pin 5)
Car mode - 9.1 kOhms resistor between pin4 and ground (pin 5)

5 Metal Spots running down Rear Right Side

Just wondering what the 5 metal spots running down the lower rear right side of the phone are for? A rapid charging dock??
I believe that's the dock charging contacts
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Pogopin docking
On a related note... I noticed that the HTC Car Dock does not have the contacts for the pogopin. How does it know to automatically launch Car mode when it's inserted into the dock? Are there embedded magnets or something?
rushwal said:
On a related note... I noticed that the HTC Car Dock does not have the contacts for the pogopin. How does it know to automatically launch Car mode when it's inserted into the dock? Are there embedded magnets or something?
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No there's something in the usb cable that triggers it, like an extra lead or something.
The car dock will not use those pins.
The car mode is trigged probably by an resistor between pins 4 and 5 in the USB cable.
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Switch between USB and ac charge

I am installing a tab 2 7 as a permanent fixture to my car dashboard. I would like to charge the tablet in ac mode when the ignition is on and, trickle (USB) charge while the ignition is off.
As well as saving my car battery, this will also be my trigger for tasker to activate / deactivate the display.
My question is this, if I use a relay to short the two data pins on the USB cable will this switch to ac charge mode.
An alternative may be to use a standard Car charger and use a relay to break the continuity in the middle cores when the ignition is off
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Anyone
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KrisPerry said:
I am installing a tab 2 7 as a permanent fixture to my car dashboard. I would like to charge the tablet in ac mode when the ignition is on and, trickle (USB) charge while the ignition is off.
As well as saving my car battery, this will also be my trigger for tasker to activate / deactivate the display.
My question is this, if I use a relay to short the two data pins on the USB cable will this switch to ac charge mode.
An alternative may be to use a standard Car charger and use a relay to break the continuity in the middle cores when the ignition is off
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OK I'm guessing no one has tried this yet. I have ordered the parts and will post my findings in due course
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27443722&postcount=4
This may help you.
bark777 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27443722&postcount=4
This may help you.
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Yeah thanks I had already read this, although it is still unclear what is actually going on
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I'm going to be attempting the same thing with a Droid X I'm using as a DVR in my car. Any updates? According to this, once AC charging is initiated, removing the short will not revert the charging mode back to the lower rate without interrupting the connection.
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I'm going to be attempting the same thing with a Droid X I'm using as a DVR in my car. Any updates? According to this, once AC charging is initiated, removing the short will not revert the charging mode back to the lower rate without interrupting the connection.
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I haven't had a chance to look at it yet. But this sounds like it may put a spanner in the works. I may have to rethink
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KrisPerry said:
I haven't had a chance to look at it yet. But this sounds like it may put a spanner in the works. I may have to rethink
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I'm still waiting on the boat from China for my parts, but had an idea in the meantime. Perhaps a second relay to simply interrupt the +5V wire (and a capacitor to add even more of a delay?) would do the trick. I'm no EE, but it seems like this may do the trick.
MasterTactician said:
I'm still waiting on the boat from China for my parts, but had an idea in the meantime. Perhaps a second relay to simply interrupt the +5V wire (and a capacitor to add even more of a delay?) would do the trick. I'm no EE, but it seems like this may do the trick.
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The basic principal doesn't work anyway. No matter if the d cores are disconnected
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My new plan is to switch in a resistor to trick the Tablet into thinking it's docked. Then use this to trigger events in tasker
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KrisPerry said:
My new plan is to switch in a resistor to trick the Tablet into thinking it's docked. Then use this to trigger events in tasker
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@KrisPerry - Can you elaborate more on how to accomplish this with the Galaxy Tab 2? I have seen threads on how to do this for the S2/S3 with the micro USB connector, but nothing for the the Galaxy Tab 2. I would be very interested if this works for you.
Cheers!
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@KrisPerry - Can you elaborate more on how to accomplish this with the Galaxy Tab 2? I have seen threads on how to do this for the S2/S3 with the micro USB connector, but nothing for the the Galaxy Tab 2. I would be very interested if this works for you.
Cheers!
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Ok first I ordered the breakout board from http://www.podgizmo.com. this allows components to be soldered directly to the relevant pins.
I simply used a 33 and a 10ohm resistor to give approx 7.5 ohm resistance. When the ignition is started a relay switches the resistance across the deviceID pin. The Tablet then thinks it has been car docked and subsequently runs a specific tasker profile
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Ok first I ordered the breakout board from podgizmo. this allows components to be soldered directly to the relevant pins.
I simply used a 33 and a 10ohm resistor to give approx 7.5 ohm resistance. When the ignition is started a relay switches the resistance across the deviceID pin. The Tablet then thinks it has been car docked and subsequently runs a specific tasker profile
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@KrisPerry - Brilliant, this is exactly what I have been looking for. Do you already have this working? Just to confirm, is the deviceID pin you reference pin 13 (ACCESSORY_ID)?
I'd love to learn more about your setup if you have it documented somewhere (I didn't find anything on XDA).
Cheers!
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@KrisPerry - Brilliant, this is exactly what I have been looking for. Do you already have this working? Just to confirm, is the deviceID pin you reference pin 13 (ACCESSORY_ID)?
I'd love to learn more about your setup if you have it documented somewhere (I didn't find anything on XDA).
Cheers!
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Correct, between pin 13 and ground. I have it working on the bench. Next step is to test in the car before installation. I'll maybe document the whole process once completed
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Update so far.
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