Just wondering what the 5 metal spots running down the lower rear right side of the phone are for? A rapid charging dock??
I believe that's the dock charging contacts
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Pogopin docking
On a related note... I noticed that the HTC Car Dock does not have the contacts for the pogopin. How does it know to automatically launch Car mode when it's inserted into the dock? Are there embedded magnets or something?
rushwal said:
On a related note... I noticed that the HTC Car Dock does not have the contacts for the pogopin. How does it know to automatically launch Car mode when it's inserted into the dock? Are there embedded magnets or something?
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No there's something in the usb cable that triggers it, like an extra lead or something.
The car dock will not use those pins.
The car mode is trigged probably by an resistor between pins 4 and 5 in the USB cable.
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Has anyone tried to trick our phone into thinking its in a htc dock to get the dock mode to kick in? i was thinking maybe trying to bridge a few pins on the usb. anyone think/heard of something like this working?
Yes there is a thread on this. Involves placing a particular ohm resistor across certain lines of the the cable
What was the thread called?
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I dunno about you, but I have a dock mode icon in my app drawer, and when I click that, it turns on.
I do not have a dock mode icon in my tray. Tmo sensation, idk, but maybe that's why.
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Finland_2_Cupertino said:
I do not have a dock mode icon in my tray. Tmo sensation, idk, but maybe that's why.
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You need a third party launcher to be able to see it. Rosie hides the shortcut.
Install launcher pro or adw and you'll see it show up in the app drawer.
Finland_2_Cupertino said:
What was the thread called?
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To build a usb cable that will place your phone in dock mode (either car or desk) see these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1133956&page=14
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820275 (for Samsung but the resistor values might be applicable)
I just use Dock Simulator to launch Home Dock. I have it setup to launch automatically when connected to a charging source. Don't need it with the oem car dock since it has the pin outs.
US T-Mo Sensation - stock not rooted.
Thanks for the help guys. I'm really trying for the inline usb trick. If I get it going expect a write up.
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Finland_2_Cupertino said:
Thanks for the help guys. I'm really trying for the inline usb trick. If I get it going expect a write up.
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Please!
"ID Pin Resistance on Mini B-plugs and Micro B-plugs Increased to 1 Mohm
Mandate: Required
Effective Date: December, 2009
The resistance to ground on ID pin 4 for mini B-plugs and micro B-plugs has been increased to 1,000,000 Ohms minimum. The Engineering Change Notice is part of the download of the USB 2.0 Specification."
http://compliance.usb.org/index.asp?UpdateFile=Cables and Connectors&Format=Standard
Also: http://www.kineteka.com/microusb-b.aspx
I think you connect pin 4 to pin 5. Not sure if a resistor is required between them.
I just bought the Seidio dock from their site and it works great. Phone does into dock mode as soon as you put it on the dock, whether a power source is plugged in or not. For $40 it was a pretty good purchase.
CyberStorm98 said:
I just bought the Seidio dock from their site and it works great. Phone does into dock mode as soon as you put it on the dock, whether a power source is plugged in or not. For $40 it was a pretty good purchase.
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Open it and take a picture of the connector. I need to know what makes it go into that mode! Please!
A resistor? Diode? Just some wire?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16961401#post16961401
Dock mode - 70 kOhms resistor between pin4 and ground (pin 5)
Car mode - 9.1 kOhms resistor between pin4 and ground (pin 5)
Just wondering if anyone knows the pinout for the 5 contacts on the back so i could make myself a speaker/charger dock until an official one becomes more available.
I've wondered this myself. After running a meter across the pins. Pins 2&4 seem to accept a voltage pin 5 is a ground I think. I feel through a guesstament that it follows the USB pinout in flat lateral form.
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Usually I would literally just test each pin to see what was what but obviously being an expensive phone and canceling my insirance I do not want to short anything out, and yes it seems logical for one of the end contacts to be a ground, did you put a voltage into pin 2 & 4? If so how much?
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I've been getting read to cut an older USB cable and test that way. But I used 4.4 volts. I to don't want to kill the warranty by ripping the phone apart. After I cut the USB I'm going to make a jig and do tests. If I find anything out I'll post here.
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It's the micro USB pinout in pogo form..
1. 5vcc
2. Data -
3. Data +
4. Audio out mono
5. Ground.
Left to right pinout with the camera facing your left shoulder.
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Thank you, I shall post a pic of homemade dock when I have the time to make one.
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Ok. I tested. Connected HTC ONE X to lab power supply (5V 1A limit) and after a while (2-3 seconds) is started charging and 0.44A was flowing into phone. It was almost fully charged at the time.
Does anybody know how to get audio out on audio out pin?
And why Data - pin has 1,8V in reference to ground at all times?
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Ok. I measured again. 0.44A and phone goes to charging (USB). I don't have time today to see what happens if you connect Data + adn - pins...
But still no luck with audio.
dkirchik said:
It's the micro USB pinout in pogo form..
1. 5vcc
2. Data -
3. Data +
4. Audio out mono
5. Ground.
Left to right pinout with the camera facing your left shoulder.
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can you do USB OTG out via POGO?
z0bug33 said:
can you do USB OTG out via POGO?
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i wonder that too, "4. Audio out mono" is this really correct ? or is it the yellow identifier in a normal micro usb
Vcek said:
i wonder that too, "4. Audio out mono" is this really correct ? or is it the yellow identifier in a normal micro usb
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hey guys you can check this site out http://techno-fix.com/ . i found my pinout searches there. there are very usefull things
hey guys i just had this thing in mind...many a times my hands get a bit sweaty or its very habitual for me to kinda use the phone wid wet hands..
can the contact with the docking pins cause any issue?
Got mine off amazon. Does not activate dock mode.
Is it defective?
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No I think it is the way it was designed. Doesn't use the pins on the back and you have a microusb nub that sticks up for you to connect to.
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No I think it is the way it was designed. Doesn't use the pins on the back and you have a microusb nub that sticks up for you to connect to.
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Well...It doesn't necessarily have to use the pogo pins to activate dock mode. For example the official car dock will launch the Car application when the phone is docked even though it uses usb. It's all in how the connector is pinned out.
Having two of these I can say neither activate dock mode.
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I'm sure you could get an nfc tag, stick it to the dock and have the phone launch the dock mode when it detects the tag. Of course, this solution leaves the phone in dock mode when you undock it and I'm not sure what happens if you just kinda leave the phone sitting on top of the tag like that and try to do other stuff.
If the tag is too low for the phone to detect I'm sure you could jury rig something to raise the tag closer to the center of the phone.
H4x the cable or order one already modded. I just ordered two cables. 1 for car and 1 for night stand.
id10terrordfw said:
Having two of these I can say neither activate dock mode.
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Install "any cut" from the play store, open it and pick new shortcut. The find HTC Dock mode and select that. Now at least you have a icon on your home screen to get into dock mode even though your dock doesn't automatically trip it.
nugzo said:
H4x the cable or order one already modded. I just ordered two cables. 1 for car and 1 for night stand.
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can you give a link to what this is?
nugzo said:
H4x the cable or order one already modded. I just ordered two cables. 1 for car and 1 for night stand.
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Does the dock mode turn off the soft key lights? That's my issue right now because using my phone as an alarm clock at night, the dang soft key buttons are way too bright!
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I'm planning on wiring the official car dock directly to my fuse panel in my truck. I had my N1 dock done this way but it was kinda rigged lol. Trying this time to do it a little cleaner.
I bought a "add a circuit" from O'Reilly auto parts that plugs into an existing fuse slot and has 2 slots in it: one for the fuse you removed to install it and one fuse slot for your accessory. For this car dock, would a 5amp fuse be ok or what? Thanks for any advice...don't wanna fry anything.
Doesn't the phone only draw 2 amps max? I'd say yes the 5 amp fuse should be fine.
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Has anyone tried the Brodit active car dock. I have one for the iPhone and it was perfect. Very expensive but ideal. You get in the car slot your phone in, no connecting a cable or anything. I do want to get one but I am using arliberator and I'm not sure if I can use it I conjunction with the mhl connector.
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