Just wondering if anyone knows the pinout for the 5 contacts on the back so i could make myself a speaker/charger dock until an official one becomes more available.
I've wondered this myself. After running a meter across the pins. Pins 2&4 seem to accept a voltage pin 5 is a ground I think. I feel through a guesstament that it follows the USB pinout in flat lateral form.
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Usually I would literally just test each pin to see what was what but obviously being an expensive phone and canceling my insirance I do not want to short anything out, and yes it seems logical for one of the end contacts to be a ground, did you put a voltage into pin 2 & 4? If so how much?
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I've been getting read to cut an older USB cable and test that way. But I used 4.4 volts. I to don't want to kill the warranty by ripping the phone apart. After I cut the USB I'm going to make a jig and do tests. If I find anything out I'll post here.
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It's the micro USB pinout in pogo form..
1. 5vcc
2. Data -
3. Data +
4. Audio out mono
5. Ground.
Left to right pinout with the camera facing your left shoulder.
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Thank you, I shall post a pic of homemade dock when I have the time to make one.
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Ok. I tested. Connected HTC ONE X to lab power supply (5V 1A limit) and after a while (2-3 seconds) is started charging and 0.44A was flowing into phone. It was almost fully charged at the time.
Does anybody know how to get audio out on audio out pin?
And why Data - pin has 1,8V in reference to ground at all times?
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Ok. I measured again. 0.44A and phone goes to charging (USB). I don't have time today to see what happens if you connect Data + adn - pins...
But still no luck with audio.
dkirchik said:
It's the micro USB pinout in pogo form..
1. 5vcc
2. Data -
3. Data +
4. Audio out mono
5. Ground.
Left to right pinout with the camera facing your left shoulder.
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can you do USB OTG out via POGO?
z0bug33 said:
can you do USB OTG out via POGO?
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i wonder that too, "4. Audio out mono" is this really correct ? or is it the yellow identifier in a normal micro usb
Vcek said:
i wonder that too, "4. Audio out mono" is this really correct ? or is it the yellow identifier in a normal micro usb
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hey guys you can check this site out http://techno-fix.com/ . i found my pinout searches there. there are very usefull things
hey guys i just had this thing in mind...many a times my hands get a bit sweaty or its very habitual for me to kinda use the phone wid wet hands..
can the contact with the docking pins cause any issue?
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Has anyone tried to trick our phone into thinking its in a htc dock to get the dock mode to kick in? i was thinking maybe trying to bridge a few pins on the usb. anyone think/heard of something like this working?
Yes there is a thread on this. Involves placing a particular ohm resistor across certain lines of the the cable
What was the thread called?
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I dunno about you, but I have a dock mode icon in my app drawer, and when I click that, it turns on.
I do not have a dock mode icon in my tray. Tmo sensation, idk, but maybe that's why.
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Finland_2_Cupertino said:
I do not have a dock mode icon in my tray. Tmo sensation, idk, but maybe that's why.
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You need a third party launcher to be able to see it. Rosie hides the shortcut.
Install launcher pro or adw and you'll see it show up in the app drawer.
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What was the thread called?
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To build a usb cable that will place your phone in dock mode (either car or desk) see these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1133956&page=14
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820275 (for Samsung but the resistor values might be applicable)
I just use Dock Simulator to launch Home Dock. I have it setup to launch automatically when connected to a charging source. Don't need it with the oem car dock since it has the pin outs.
US T-Mo Sensation - stock not rooted.
Thanks for the help guys. I'm really trying for the inline usb trick. If I get it going expect a write up.
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Thanks for the help guys. I'm really trying for the inline usb trick. If I get it going expect a write up.
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Please!
"ID Pin Resistance on Mini B-plugs and Micro B-plugs Increased to 1 Mohm
Mandate: Required
Effective Date: December, 2009
The resistance to ground on ID pin 4 for mini B-plugs and micro B-plugs has been increased to 1,000,000 Ohms minimum. The Engineering Change Notice is part of the download of the USB 2.0 Specification."
http://compliance.usb.org/index.asp?UpdateFile=Cables and Connectors&Format=Standard
Also: http://www.kineteka.com/microusb-b.aspx
I think you connect pin 4 to pin 5. Not sure if a resistor is required between them.
I just bought the Seidio dock from their site and it works great. Phone does into dock mode as soon as you put it on the dock, whether a power source is plugged in or not. For $40 it was a pretty good purchase.
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I just bought the Seidio dock from their site and it works great. Phone does into dock mode as soon as you put it on the dock, whether a power source is plugged in or not. For $40 it was a pretty good purchase.
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Open it and take a picture of the connector. I need to know what makes it go into that mode! Please!
A resistor? Diode? Just some wire?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16961401#post16961401
Dock mode - 70 kOhms resistor between pin4 and ground (pin 5)
Car mode - 9.1 kOhms resistor between pin4 and ground (pin 5)
Just wondering what the 5 metal spots running down the lower rear right side of the phone are for? A rapid charging dock??
I believe that's the dock charging contacts
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Pogopin docking
On a related note... I noticed that the HTC Car Dock does not have the contacts for the pogopin. How does it know to automatically launch Car mode when it's inserted into the dock? Are there embedded magnets or something?
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On a related note... I noticed that the HTC Car Dock does not have the contacts for the pogopin. How does it know to automatically launch Car mode when it's inserted into the dock? Are there embedded magnets or something?
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No there's something in the usb cable that triggers it, like an extra lead or something.
The car dock will not use those pins.
The car mode is trigged probably by an resistor between pins 4 and 5 in the USB cable.
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I am installing a tab 2 7 as a permanent fixture to my car dashboard. I would like to charge the tablet in ac mode when the ignition is on and, trickle (USB) charge while the ignition is off.
As well as saving my car battery, this will also be my trigger for tasker to activate / deactivate the display.
My question is this, if I use a relay to short the two data pins on the USB cable will this switch to ac charge mode.
An alternative may be to use a standard Car charger and use a relay to break the continuity in the middle cores when the ignition is off
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Anyone
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I am installing a tab 2 7 as a permanent fixture to my car dashboard. I would like to charge the tablet in ac mode when the ignition is on and, trickle (USB) charge while the ignition is off.
As well as saving my car battery, this will also be my trigger for tasker to activate / deactivate the display.
My question is this, if I use a relay to short the two data pins on the USB cable will this switch to ac charge mode.
An alternative may be to use a standard Car charger and use a relay to break the continuity in the middle cores when the ignition is off
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OK I'm guessing no one has tried this yet. I have ordered the parts and will post my findings in due course
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27443722&postcount=4
This may help you.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27443722&postcount=4
This may help you.
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Yeah thanks I had already read this, although it is still unclear what is actually going on
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I'm going to be attempting the same thing with a Droid X I'm using as a DVR in my car. Any updates? According to this, once AC charging is initiated, removing the short will not revert the charging mode back to the lower rate without interrupting the connection.
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I'm going to be attempting the same thing with a Droid X I'm using as a DVR in my car. Any updates? According to this, once AC charging is initiated, removing the short will not revert the charging mode back to the lower rate without interrupting the connection.
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I haven't had a chance to look at it yet. But this sounds like it may put a spanner in the works. I may have to rethink
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I haven't had a chance to look at it yet. But this sounds like it may put a spanner in the works. I may have to rethink
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I'm still waiting on the boat from China for my parts, but had an idea in the meantime. Perhaps a second relay to simply interrupt the +5V wire (and a capacitor to add even more of a delay?) would do the trick. I'm no EE, but it seems like this may do the trick.
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I'm still waiting on the boat from China for my parts, but had an idea in the meantime. Perhaps a second relay to simply interrupt the +5V wire (and a capacitor to add even more of a delay?) would do the trick. I'm no EE, but it seems like this may do the trick.
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The basic principal doesn't work anyway. No matter if the d cores are disconnected
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My new plan is to switch in a resistor to trick the Tablet into thinking it's docked. Then use this to trigger events in tasker
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My new plan is to switch in a resistor to trick the Tablet into thinking it's docked. Then use this to trigger events in tasker
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@KrisPerry - Can you elaborate more on how to accomplish this with the Galaxy Tab 2? I have seen threads on how to do this for the S2/S3 with the micro USB connector, but nothing for the the Galaxy Tab 2. I would be very interested if this works for you.
Cheers!
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@KrisPerry - Can you elaborate more on how to accomplish this with the Galaxy Tab 2? I have seen threads on how to do this for the S2/S3 with the micro USB connector, but nothing for the the Galaxy Tab 2. I would be very interested if this works for you.
Cheers!
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Ok first I ordered the breakout board from http://www.podgizmo.com. this allows components to be soldered directly to the relevant pins.
I simply used a 33 and a 10ohm resistor to give approx 7.5 ohm resistance. When the ignition is started a relay switches the resistance across the deviceID pin. The Tablet then thinks it has been car docked and subsequently runs a specific tasker profile
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Ok first I ordered the breakout board from podgizmo. this allows components to be soldered directly to the relevant pins.
I simply used a 33 and a 10ohm resistor to give approx 7.5 ohm resistance. When the ignition is started a relay switches the resistance across the deviceID pin. The Tablet then thinks it has been car docked and subsequently runs a specific tasker profile
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@KrisPerry - Brilliant, this is exactly what I have been looking for. Do you already have this working? Just to confirm, is the deviceID pin you reference pin 13 (ACCESSORY_ID)?
I'd love to learn more about your setup if you have it documented somewhere (I didn't find anything on XDA).
Cheers!
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@KrisPerry - Brilliant, this is exactly what I have been looking for. Do you already have this working? Just to confirm, is the deviceID pin you reference pin 13 (ACCESSORY_ID)?
I'd love to learn more about your setup if you have it documented somewhere (I didn't find anything on XDA).
Cheers!
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Correct, between pin 13 and ground. I have it working on the bench. Next step is to test in the car before installation. I'll maybe document the whole process once completed
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Update so far.
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Can anyone recommend an htc one x car charger with a long cord? My connection port is inside my center console and its pretty deep in it.I am getting a mount for the dash and I need a charger that will be long enough to reach. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Buy one with a usb port and use a usb cable of your choice
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Interesting point, that route may be best, thank you! Edit, could you clarify exactly how this would work? Sorry, kind of a noob.
XHaGGeNx said:
Interesting point, that route may be best, thank you! Edit, could you clarify exactly how this would work? Sorry, kind of a noob.
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Get one of these (or similar).
Then use the USB cable that came with your phone, or try something like this.
I use a usb extension cable with my phone. It works great.
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I have a OEM HTC car charger and the cable is quite long. When I stop by the house I will post pics. I tend to use that cable more than the OEM wall charger that comes in the box.
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Here is the cord with the cable.
Please take note that I wrapped the charger 5 times. Couldn't place the cable on something to show the length so I wrapped it.
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First of all sorry for my bad english
The things that you need to fabricate charging dock are as follows:
1) Old CD case
2) Old sony ericsson data cable
3) Some fast glue
1) Disassemble CD case in order to use only the back side
2) From data cable remove plastic fixing legs
3) Mesure with the phone and mark the correct position of the cable ( the picture of the cable should be upwards)
4) Using some fast glue bond the connector to de CD case and voalla the dock is ready
And hese are the pictures. Maybe tomorrow i will make it like stand but for now is working ok for night charging
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Yeah, nice work!
Did you see this topic ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38501016
There are other DIY charging systems.
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Now, I will adapt this for car holder !
TurboKan said:
Now, I will adapt this for car holder !
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Share the result after that
There is already a thread to share these. Let's keep them in one place.
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There is already a thread to share these. Let's keep them in one place.
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Ok if possible delete my tread i will continue posting in another
It works! But, what's the voltage? Isn't it low?
Why would the voltage be low? USB is a standarized port so there's no difference between chargers when it comes to voltage.
The other thing is the current that varies from 500mA (USB 2.0 port) and 900mA (3.0 port) up to 3mA. The current depends on the charger not the cable.
I tried making this and the charging time takes a long time. I am gaining about 10% per hour. Is this normal?
zaku2s said:
I tried making this and the charging time takes a long time. I am gaining about 10% per hour. Is this normal?
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Depends. Which charger do y use, more precisely how many amps does it output? Maybe you contact surfaces are to small. A pic would be welcome
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I don't think the charger has any effect, I believe the pins are set up to draw a maximum of 1A, probably due to it being a dock, it wants to "slow" charge.
As for it taking a long time, I found that the cable had a huge effect, switching to a better cable made it charge correctly.
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I am using the stock charger. It would probably be the contact point. I don't want to scrach my XZ so I didn't push it all the way down. I'll try again when I get home
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I don't think the charger has any effect, I believe the pins are set up to draw a maximum of 1A, probably due to it being a dock, it wants to "slow" charge.
As for it taking a long time, I found that the cable had a huge effect, switching to a better cable made it charge correctly.
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Ah, correct, wiring, to small section causes more energy loss. So taking a thicker wire isn't l luxury. But standard usb wire should work.(I used a Sony Ericsson fastport data wire)
Could also be the soldering, if it isn't sold properly you get bad contracts.
I'm using a 750mA charge ( from the x10) and it never takes so long to charge even over my custom system running a sleep taking app over night.
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Do anyone know the model number or name of the old ericsson cable?
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Do anyone know the model number or name of the old ericsson cable?
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The connector was called FastPort, so look for something like FastPort usb data wire
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The connector was called FastPort, so look for something like FastPort usb data wire
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I think it's sony dcu-60 am I right?.
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I think it's sony dcu-60 am I right?.
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Can't tell you from scratch. Wanna say Google is your friend.
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Does anyone have any ideas because I found an old DIY speaker and I was wondering if anyone had ideas for a dock in which it could be used.
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I wanted the same dock+speaker end result so I ended up using my BT speaker and using tasker (but can use smart connect) to auto on BT when docked which it then reconnects to speaker when in range then turns BT off when undocked. Obviously totally different than wjatbtou have to work with but I already had the speaker so it cost me nothing to do.
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Does anyone have any ideas because I found an old DIY speaker and I was wondering if anyone had ideas for a dock in which it could be used.
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Hi, I would go with something like the attachment. Using a sbh20(or similar) for wireless sound transmission. Speaker on the side. ( if you thing is stereo, one on each side), and the phone in landscape mode on a inclined surface with the pins on the bottom.
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