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Official HTC Desire Car Kit

Mobile Fun now have details on the official HTC Desire car kit. Still no price though:
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/htc-desire-car-upgrade-kit-p24570.htm
Apparently placing the device in the holder activates something called the 'navipanel' which must be similar to the 'Car Home' app on the Nexus One.
I'll wait for a price and reviews before deciding whether to replace my current car holder
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I just found further details on the HTC Accessory site from Expansys. The dock will set you back £65 and isn't due til the 5th July.
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=199788

Hmm recon there going to put this navi panel on the app market? or do a upgrade?

It's just this.
Regards,
Dave

Sorry to dig up an old thread, but things have moved on with this accessory! It is now available for order (although it is still £65.99!) from htcaccessorystore.
The question then is, is it worth £65.99? Other than auto-loading navipanel what does this give us over a standard mount and car charger?

If somebody buys one and works out what triggers dock mode it would be sweet!

I have recently acquired one of these and it does not activate any software within the phone. It does switch on 'car mode' which allows the speaker-phone to activate when a call comes in. I have contacted HTC support and was given this reply,
"Dear xxxxxx,
Sorry for the delayed response. I have investigated the issue a bit further - the Desire does not come with the "NaviPanel” software, as the manufacturer claims, and there is no download available for it. There is a “Navigation” app, which you can find in the list of all apps, but I am not sure if it is the same. Alternatively, you can go to Android market and search for “Car Home” or “Car dock” and try out some of the 3rd party apps available, but please be aware HTC does not produce those, so you will be using them at your own risk.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number xxxxxxxxxxxx.
Sincerely,
Viktor"
I am somewhat annoyed that HTC have stated in the car holder instruction manual and in the original press release, that the 'Navipanel' is activated when the phone is docked. It was a huge selling point for me, as I use the phone in the car more than anything and this feature would have made it easier to operate the phone in the dock.

Have you instaled navi panel, you can find it on here somewhere.
I'm thinking of getting one of these, but only if it works properly!

so no one bought this?

I've bought the car kit and just received the shipment. I have to admit it looks really nice and feels robust. I'll be trying some of the third party Apps for the next few days and will keep in touch...

Hi,
I have one question, Does it recognize the charger as USB or AC ?
ThankU

brrrbaybay said:
I've bought the car kit and just received the shipment. I have to admit it looks really nice and feels robust. I'll be trying some of the third party Apps for the next few days and will keep in touch...
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None of the third party app's I've tried could convince me that Car-mode is a great and usable feature. Maybe that's why HTC decided to discontinue (or never started working on?) this feature?
Also,
Using or holding (and even touching for that matter) a phone while driving is illegal in The Netherlands and will cost you about 150,- Euro. Even if it's only being used a a navigation device.
I personally think Google should improve Voice search and release a Dutch version soon
@_dGs_
Previously, when using generic car chargers and running CoPilot, my battery still slowly drained. I've noticed that since I've got the official Dock, this problem doesn't occur anymore. So I assume that it'll show AC. I'll have a look at it when driving home today to make sure.

brrrbaybay said:
@_dGs_
Previously, when using generic car chargers and running CoPilot, my battery still slowly drained. I've noticed that since I've got the official Dock, this problem doesn't occur anymore. So I assume that it'll show AC. I'll have a look at it when driving home today to make sure.
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From experience with my Touch Pro and Kaiser, the generic adaptors do not deliver enough power for a phone that is making calls, a Bluetooth connection and GPS. These generic devices seem to deliver USB levels of power. Look at your wall charger and it is rated at 1 Amp. A genuine HTC car charger will give the correct level of power (until the battery gets too hot and shuts off charging) - this hasn't happend on my Desire yet, but would do so on my Touch Pro, even with the AC vent directed at the phone...

_dGs_ said:
Hi,
I have one question, Does it recognize the charger as USB or AC ?
ThankU
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a little bit later then promised, but: When connected to the official HTC CarKit, the desire says it's connected to an AC power source.

66mustang said:
From experience with my Touch Pro and Kaiser, the generic adaptors do not deliver enough power for a phone that is making calls, a Bluetooth connection and GPS. These generic devices seem to deliver USB levels of power. Look at your wall charger and it is rated at 1 Amp. A genuine HTC car charger will give the correct level of power (until the battery gets too hot and shuts off charging) - this hasn't happend on my Desire yet, but would do so on my Touch Pro, even with the AC vent directed at the phone...
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After I bought the Desire I also also bought a 1200mA (max output current) generic USB charger for use in my car. Friends of mine who have an Iphone were using this charger because this phone also has the problem.
The 'funny' thing is that this charger didn't solve the problem on my Desire. Perhaps HTC chargers identify themselves as some sort of "high current charger"- USB deviceClass, or use a slightly different voltage (e.g. 5.5V instead of 5V?) to identify themselves as AC charger?

No, it's the fact the the middle two contacts are bridged. There's several posts about it in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670702

fredfox_uk said:
No, it's the fact the the middle two contacts are bridged. There's several posts about it in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670702
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Thanks! That sounds really usefull

Cradle for I9000

Hi There!
I am looking for a desktop cradle for my i9000 8GB. I got one from ebay for my hd2, but it's hard to eject, so it seems to me that especially with the USB on the top (Who the hell thought that was a good idea), cradles could be quite hard to come by? I don't really want a cord on the top, but is that my only option?
Also are all higher capacity batteries going to take up more space and make the phone fatter?

I'd be interested in a cradle as well but I don't think there is any other way of charging other than the top USB. Probably a landscape cradle would have to suffice. A larger battery will add more bulk, yes.
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Perhaps a wireless charger could be an option for you?
Then you can use it the way you want (landscape or portrait).

Pierreken said:
Perhaps a wireless charger could be an option for you?
Then you can use it the way you want (landscape or portrait).
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Sounds excellent, where do I get them from?

Anyone able to shed any light?

Best option is wireless charger from power force... Still involves you pluggin a cord but you simply place the phone down as you need it..
Got one and its great... All my devices are now able to be charged at the one outlet...
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You can search in ebay 150476884489 item number and look same sellers other items these are very usefull and good products.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830259
You could make your own like this?

S4 DockMode works on iBOLT xProDock...

Hello everyone, with this post we can confirm that the Galaxy S4's vehicle "DockMode" works perfect with the xProDock. See image where it was checked today against AT&T's and Sprint's version. Friends from Europe have also confirmed it works fine with the International version.
Driving using the "DockMode" combined with a Bluetooth for hands-free is great as it turns your S4 into a virtual driving assistant and entertainment center, all while you stay away from texting while driving. Keeping the phone above the dashboard obviously also increases both cell phone and GPS reception. Stepping out of the car with a charged phone is another nice benefit with using a charging dock.
Connect the S4 into the xPro and go to "Settings-Accessory" and select "Dock Sound", "Audio out" and "Deskhome display" and then download your favorite "docking app". We've found our own "Dock'n Drive", "CarHome Ultra", "Ulysse Speedometer", "TuneIn" and "Slacker Radio" to be the S4 "Dock home" alternatives. We recommend using one of the first three and then have "shortcuts" to your favorite apps.
The aux-out sound to car-stereo through the microUSB cable also works great on the S4. This means the car-dock only needs ONE cable connected and yet at the other end it splits into a USB male connection and 3.5 mm aux-out that you connect into the vehicle's car-stereo (not needed if you have Bluetooth A2DP support). Keep in mind that Samsung's firmware only allows for "App sound" to be transmitted to the car-speakers through the microUSB, NOT phone calls so you must still use a Bluetooth solution for in-and outgoing calls.
Camera view is also free so you can use the S4 as an excellent "dash cam" with one of the many apps available for capturing video using a "loop". All cases are compatible, even Otterbox Defender or Ballistic Maxx type.
We have also started to ship our new "Stick Anywhere" mount with this which means you can attach it directly to the dashboard's hard surface without using the "disc" used for many years with car-docks. If you don't like the suction Mount concept there's an AMPS plate option which allows you to mount the xPro on a KUDA or ProClip mount for example.
You can order the xProDock for Galaxy S4 on Amazon in the US and Europe. Just type in "xProDock" on eBay and we should have it listed there too in most countries.
Feel free to ask questions or use this thread to discuss any product in the category... We'll comment if warranted. Thanks!

Definitely interested in this if we can't figure out what the hell is going on with the Infuse dock on the Samsung branded car dock thread!

KryptosXLayer2 said:
Definitely interested in this if we can't figure out what the hell is going on with the Infuse dock on the Samsung branded car dock thread!
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The Infuse Dock can't be used with the Galaxy S4 no matter what. This has to do with the fact that Samsung has changed the pin-out configuration when moving to the "new platform" so there's no technical way (to the best of our knowledge) to get it to charge or to start the car-mode. Not sure if this helps?

MikaelPe said:
The Infuse Dock can't be used with the Galaxy S4 no matter what. This has to do with the fact that Samsung has changed the pin-out configuration when moving to the "new platform" so there's no technical way (to the best of our knowledge) to get it to charge or to start the car-mode. Not sure if this helps?
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Oh it helps alright, between this and your comment on the other thread, I'm going to have to give up on the Infuse dock.... it worked great for the Skyrocket and SIII for me, and I should be glad that I had it for those two phones, but now it's time to move on and go with yours - thanks again for your help with this!
I'll be the first to say that this universal dock has convinced someone who has never even considered a universal dock, this is definitely the one to buy if you need a mount for the S4 while driving.... and who doesn't? Samsung realy dropped the ball on this - all these great features to "make life better with your life companion," and they rip out the ability to dock the damn phone on their own dock? This and the TecTiles? Come on, makes me go crazy over here, but I digress - thanks Mikael, much appreciated, great work!
Placing my order right now!!! But wait til you see how I'm mounting it, going to make it mine if it kills me, haha
EDIT - Amazon order number ends in 0420217, can't wait to get this dock installed, thanks again

KryptosXLayer2 said:
Oh it helps alright, between this and your comment on the other thread, I'm going to have to give up on the Infuse dock.... it worked great for the Skyrocket and SIII for me, and I should be glad that I had it for those two phones, but now it's time to move on and go with yours - thanks again for your help with this!
I'll be the first to say that this universal dock has convinced someone who has never even considered a universal dock, this is definitely the one to buy if you need a mount for the S4 while driving.... and who doesn't? Samsung realy dropped the ball on this - all these great features to "make life better with your life companion," and they rip out the ability to dock the damn phone on their own dock? This and the TecTiles? Come on, makes me go crazy over here, but I digress - thanks Mikael, much appreciated, great work!
Placing my order right now!!! But wait til you see how I'm mounting it, going to make it mine if it kills me, haha
EDIT - Amazon order number ends in 0420217, can't wait to get this dock installed, thanks again
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I'm looking forward to seeing your setup. I want lots of pictures.

Will this work with the s-view cover on and folded back?
Swype'd at pace from my Galaxy S2

Very interesting indeed...
I have a question.. There is a long cable that is attached to the dock and end with the car-charger right? So is that a standard USB port so I can use my own charger or does it come with a car charger itself?
Now the issue with many standard USB car chargers is that they don't charge the phone fast enough. With the GPS on, it actually drains the battery slowly. I am going to get an official Samsung car charger soon.. but will I be able to use with with the xProDock?

Lumsdoni said:
Will this work with the s-view cover on and folded back?
Swype'd at pace from my Galaxy S2
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Yes, the video they have shows a standard flip cover on the SIII working just fine with it, and other cases all the way up to an Otterbox on a damn Note II will work in this thing!
MasK said:
Very interesting indeed...
I have a question.. There is a long cable that is attached to the dock and end with the car-charger right? So is that a standard USB port so I can use my own charger or does it come with a car charger itself?
Now the issue with many standard USB car chargers is that they don't charge the phone fast enough. With the GPS on, it actually drains the battery slowly. I am going to get an official Samsung car charger soon.. but will I be able to use with with the xProDock?
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It does not come with a charging solution, they leave that part up to you, thankfully.... If it were attached to a cheap 1A cigarette lighter adapter, I wouldn't want anything to do with it, but since I can connect this to my 2.1A adapter I already bought and used for months on my SIII, I'm certainly happy with that!
My xProDock is out for delivery, pics coming soon......!
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S 4 using the XDA app

Very disappointed about the Infuse dock issue but this dock may end up being even better. Purchased and will be sure to test.

It's great! I just received mine and coming off an infuse dock, I love it. I am using it in conjunction with their own app and it works flawlessly. Thanks for the super fast shipping guys.

randy20g said:
It's great! I just received mine and coming off an infuse dock, I love it. I am using it in conjunction with their own app and it works flawlessly. Thanks for the super fast shipping guys.
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How is the USB connector? Can you get the S4 in and out of the dock and connect the USB with one hand easily?

The USB cord is very stable. It is flexible, but not loose. Similar to the feeling of a goose neck stand. It will stay in the bent shape and position you leave it in. The mount is extremely easy to use, and works with any case. The GS4 goes right into dock mode as soon as it sees the usb plug even if its not connected to power. The cord has a built in plug for the audio as well. The cord has the appearance of being permanently part of the mount, but there is a cover on the back that hides the removable plug. The windshield mount is first rate and did not budge until released.
On a related note....while plugged in, I saw NO battery drain as I had on the Infuse while using map apps, Escort Live radar app, or anything else. The unit continued to charge during all of the above. This in itself is a huge improvement over the previous phone/power combos. I would always have horrible drain even when plugged in when using power hungry apps with BT, GPS, etc...
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randy20g said:
On a related note....while plugged in, I saw NO battery drain as I had on the Infuse while using map apps, Escort Live radar app, or anything else. The unit continued to charge during all of the above. This in itself is a huge improvement over the previous phone/power combos. I would always have horrible drain even when plugged in when using power hungry apps with BT, GPS, etc...
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That has more to do with the charging adapter you're using than the cable itself - what adapter are you using, a 2A or a 1A?
FULL review coming tomorrow from me, lots of pics, lots of details, along with the good AND the to be desired, nothing bad to report! Tired as hell right now and don't have the energy to finish it and post it, so I'm calling it a night...... until tomorrow!

KryptosXLayer2 said:
That has more to do with the charging adapter you're using than the cable itself - what adapter are you using, a 2A or a 1A?
FULL review coming tomorrow from me, lots of pics, lots of details, along with the good AND the to be desired, nothing bad to report! Tired as hell right now and don't have the energy to finish it and post it, so I'm calling it a night...... until tomorrow!
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For some reason, with the Infuse and dock, it never seemed to matter what power adapter I used... It always discharged. This combo is charging fine.

And finally, my incredibly long review on the dock is up, lots of pics!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2262595

Kryptos you are a beast!
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open1your1eyes0 said:
Kryptos you are a beast!
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Haha, very time consuming, but it's always worth it when recommending a good product and to give some insight that others may not know
Thanks!

Just wanted to post a helpful tip to anyone using this dock and wants to keep the screen on ONLY when docked, not all the time like the phone settings menu allows you to set "while charging." Always on while charging means that if my screen comes on for any reason while propped up on my desktop charger in the middle of the night, it's on the whole night! This just helps to utilize both Dock Mode that iBolt has figured out how to incorporate into their xProDock and the original Android Car Mode that we probably all know and love from the days of the Infuse 4G car dock!
Here's the link to the steps I used to get this working - it's a little hectic, but should only take about 2 to 5 minutes to set up, depending on what apps you may or may not have already installed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41206483&postcount=11

I have the original iBolt with the cable and it does not work on the S4. The phone doesn't charge and audio doesn't come out. I have CarHome Ultra installed and using BeyondPod.
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MikaelPe said:
Hello everyone, with this post we can confirm that the Galaxy S4's vehicle "DockMode" works perfect with the xProDock.....
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tdwilli1 said:
I have the original iBolt with the cable and it does not work on the S4. The phone doesn't charge and audio doesn't come out. I have CarHome Ultra installed and using BeyondPod.
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Is it the xProDock? They developed this new dock for Samsung specifically to address the issue that all the old ways wouldn't work on the S4. Their product page shows old docks and new docks with the old "In Vehicle Charging Dock" as separate products to identify this. It's an issue with Samsung changing things around and not something iBolt did in order to make you buy a new dock.... hell, Samsung even axed compatibility with their previous dock, making buying the xProDock the ONLY solution available to charge and send the vehicle into dock mode! I fought to get the Infuse 4G dock to work with the S4, but Samsung tinkered around with stuff so much, they caused me to have to buy the xProDock too....

iBOLT Dock'n Play Samsung cable now available as stand alone product

Hello all XDA friends! Finally, the 9ft microUSB-to-aux-out cable is available as a stand alone product. There has been tons of requests for this as many of you already have a phone holder in the car and you only need the cable so you can play music/gps sound (app sound) through the car-speakers. The microUSB end plugs into the phone phone and it will charge the battery when the standard USB end is plugged into a car-charger or into the vehicle's USB port (although some USB ports have slow charging rate!).
We've also seen a huge interest in using this cable together with a home stereo or with the "old boom box". Very cool application is to connect the Galaxy phone to a boom-box and put the handset into the beach bag (9ft is a loooong cable!).
When you inserted the cable the "DockMode" will start. Download an app like the iBOLT Dock'n Drive and mange your favorite apps this way. You can also set Slacker Radio, TuneIn or Ulysee Speedomter or CarHome Ultra as default "home screen". Note that you can also set WiFi and Bluetooth to go on or off automatically when handset is connected to the cable.
This new version of the "Dock'n Play" cable should be static free and will provide great sound quality. Feel free to use this thread to ask any questions about Samsung DockMode, aux-out etc. The developer for CarHome Ultra and Ulysee Speedomter can also chime in and answer questions if there's a need. Have fun!
The price is $19.95 and it's available for Amazon Prime for a few days (only a few hundred in stock).
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009PN6APM

I want to buy the iBolt dock itself. Does this cable come with it?
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le0.br4zuc4 said:
I want to buy the iBolt dock itself. Does this cable come with it?
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Yes, if you buy the xProDock this cable comes with the Dock. However, if you buy the sPro or the ProDock it does not come with the holder. We have a lot of people wanting this as they either don't want to use a holder/dock in the car or they already have something else that works well.

MikaelPe said:
Yes, if you buy the xProDock this cable comes with the Dock. However, if you buy the sPro or the ProDock it does not come with the holder. We have a lot of people wanting this as they either don't want to use a holder/dock in the car or they already have something else that works well.
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The xProDock I see on amazon (prime) says is comes with a usb cable and it has a picture of a regular usb cable.
I want to buy the dock because I know I will be able to use with my and my wife's phone but I want to make sure I get this cable too
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You guys should check out in-depth review of iBolt xPro Dock I just posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2349447
This one is universal Samsung dock for S3, S4, and Note 2. Bar none - the best car dock and the best value with cable already included. New Dock'n'Drive free app is slick as hell, and I tested it to work great with S4!

be careful !
I have a 2amp charger but with the iBolt cable, my phone charging to 0.720 amp -_-'

Do you have any available for Canadian buyers
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nico3838 said:
be careful !
I have a 2amp charger but with the iBolt cable, my phone charging to 0.720 amp -_-'
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Are you talking about original Sammy 2A charger or some ebay $4 charger that claims to be 2A while in reality current limited to under 1A (and thus due to losses and conversion efficiency down to 720 mA)?

I have a cheap charger for 5€ but with simple USB cable : 1.9amp.
With iBolt cable (for car mode and audio out) just 0.7amp
Tested with Galaxy charging current
In other thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42633527&postcount=44

Confirmed, I'm getting crap charging rates , I'm so disappointed

no shipping to UK? I think I'll make my own one, 9ft is a bit too long for me and I can also use quality components to cut down on interference and lowered charging rates.
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scote said:
no shipping to UK? I think I'll make my own one, 9ft is a bit too long for me and I can also use quality components to cut down on interference and lowered charging rates.
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Would like to see what you build. Pictures please.
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I'd been emailing the company about this for a few weeks when I first heard they were going to launch the standalone cable and they never got back to me. I guess this is why. Disappointing!
nico3838 said:
I have a cheap charger for 5€ but with simple USB cable : 1.9amp.
With iBolt cable (for car mode and audio out) just 0.7amp
Tested with Galaxy charging current
In other thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42633527&postcount=44
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Look guys, stock Sammy firmware limits charging in smartdock mode to .7A. If that is unnaceptable, run a custom kernel like Perseus or Devil and you can up it to 1.7A.
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I cannot get audio from my GS4 out using this cable... is there anything I am missing?
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Did you enable it in your Accessory settings?
le0.br4zuc4 said:
I cannot get audio from my GS4 out using this cable... is there anything I am missing?
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Anyone know how to enable dock mode on the i9505G? I don't have an accessories menu so I'm thinking I'm screwed.

the dock isn't well made.. if you live anywhere that gets hot, the suction cup vibrates on bumps when hot.. its cheaply made for a 40$ product in my opinion..

I have no complaints with the quality of the dock. I live in south Florida where it's crazy hot now and my car stays all day long outside. I have no problems with the dock losing suction at all
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I'm getting a ground loop buzz with this. Anyone else?

CONFIRMED working 3.5 audio adapters

I'm starting to see a number of USB-C to 3.5 headphone jack adapters on Amazon, though a great many of them have less than fantastic reviews and many reviewers indicated they don't work for specific phones. I recently saw one that was specifically indicated to work with the Moto Z, so I went ahead and bought. It came today and I am able to CONFIRM that it does indeed work with my Verizon Moto Z Force phone.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N7R8PWO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The USB-C adapter seems to fit well, and I'm getting audio from the Google Music player in both ears just fine. Just thought I'd share my results in case others were looking for working adapters. If you found one that definitely works with Moto Z as well, please share it here.

I'd be interested in finding out if anybody finds one which allows charging at the same time (some sort of USB-C to 3.5mm + USB-C adapter). Otherwise, my phone is useless on a road trip (running Waze eats the battery quick, and I like to listen to music via Aux In). I know that the Car Dock Mod allows this, but that's via the Mod adapter on the back of the phone and I need to use a Universal dock (wife uses an iPhone).

sn00gan said:
I'd be interested in finding out if anybody finds one which allows charging at the same time (some sort of USB-C to 3.5mm + USB-C adapter). Otherwise, my phone is useless on a road trip (running Waze eats the battery quick, and I like to listen to music via Aux In). I know that the Car Dock Mod allows this, but that's via the Mod adapter on the back of the phone and I need to use a Universal dock (wife uses an iPhone).
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FWIW, if you have a wireless charging mod, TILT makes a universal car dock with wireless charging: http://www.tylt.com/car-products/capio-car-mount
That'll leave the port open for the 3.5mm adapter. Waze will probably still eat faster than wireless will charge, but it should extend the time significantly.

I should probably read posts before responding to them. Please ignore. :]

rapdactyl said:
Incipio actually makes a really good vehicle dock mod that allows you to charge and has a 3.5mm output. Only mod I use regularly, it's ridiculously convenient. Crazy that it's not very well known, because it's easily the most useful Moto Mod.
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RIF. He mentioned the mod in the post you quoted. He also explained why it won't work for him.
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PiousInquisitor said:
RIF. He mentioned the mod in the post you quoted. He also explained why it won't work for him.
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Derp, didn't read the original quote, my bad.

You get one with your phone though so does it matter if there are after market ones?

BlueForce64 said:
You get one with your phone though so does it matter if there are after market ones?
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... What if you lose the one it came with? What if you want to have extras?

BlueForce64 said:
You get one with your phone though so does it matter if there are after market ones?
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To me it does. I don't want to carry it everywhere with me to get potentially lost or mangled in my pocket. I'd rather leave one at work, one in the car, and one at home.

I see. I actually only use mine in the car now for the aux input but otherwise I've already converted to Bluetooth headphones unfortunately. And no, not beats. Beats are terrible.

I found what claimed to be OEM Moto cables on Amazon and ordered a couple, but they are currently unavailable. I paid $7.58 each.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N0ZYNV8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I also ordered this one, which was made by a third party and was $6.99
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M0GHUCW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I cannot speak to durability because I just received them in the last week, but all of them did at least work initially.