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Does anyone knows if the famous bbm messenger for blackberry will be on android platforms anytime soon?
If there's a thread on this please feel free to let me know and please be kind enough to provide the link to it, thanks in advance
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It has been asked across MANY different message boards... since Android was released. There hasn't been a breakthrough and, from what I've read, there's really no hope.
There were some articles on tech blogs late last year in which RIM were quoted as saying that they wished to bring their services to other platforms.
The rumour is that this means BBM on Android and iOS but so far nothing has materialised.
Whilst I can see why RIM want to embrace other platforms to try and retain some sort of relevancy in a market they're rapidly losing ground in, one wonders whether making BBM available to non-Blackberry users would just further the exodus of paying customers...
wow , looks like you just missed it , there was a buzz last month about it
see for yaself
RIM, mentioned that they're next OS update will allow android market apps to work on blackberrys and they're going to port BBM over to android AND iPhone.
Live Profile works across iOS, BB and Android. Works just like BBM with a pin. Free download from market.
I have my BB buddies on it.
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Elisha said:
Live Profile works across iOS, BB and Android. Works just like BBM with a pin. Free download from market.
I have my BB buddies on it.
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I have that didn't know it worked with bbm too
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just get whatsapp its so much better
RIM somewhat mention it..
but i dont know what app
i heard rumor, Rim will make it
for Android, iOS, Linux, dunna
its still not released yet,
for now i and most of my friends using whatsApp
Im using Whatsapp atm which is good. Be pretty cool if there was a BBM type app built in to work across brands though. Can't imagine that would do good for BB's sale's though...
BBM is one of the few parts that is holding RIM up. As far as BBM coming out for other platforms, we can only wait to find out.
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Whatsappppppppppening, Loooool, that's what I use, its good for what it does but obviously not as good as bbm, but if it did come to Android that would be brill
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Bbm for androidArrow
I think you must search in google just put the right keywords otherwise it wan't give you proper results
Here's hoping. BBM is ridiculously popular in my country. I keep trying to tell everyone that MSNM is the same ****ing thing and works across all platforms but they just won't listen.
Without BBM, RIM will only have it's email system going for it.
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yea but is there an android app that can text to bbm. not a bbm app for android just one that sends sms to bbm??
What's wrong with texting...
Never live in the past but always learn from it.
For bbm to work on Android or IOS you would need to register your device on their servers and network. And unless RIM release an app that allows us to do that I don't think it will be possible. Or if a developer ports a the Blackberry software onto android devices it might be possible.
c'mon devs!!!!!!!!!!! port bbm to android pleaaaaaaassse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bbm on droid!
bbm on droid!!
bbm on droid!!!
I'll start.
Groupme: This has to be the worst app that has ever been designed for any platform. I understand that it's in preview but i've emailed their support atleast 15 times. Not even one reply. What the hell guys? You guys are owned by Microsoft (skype) for gods sake.
They recently released an update and it doesn't even include a mango update. It just adds live tiles, which don't work. Not even once.
Every time i open the app i get "Push notification ChannelOpenFailed error occurred. This channel does not exist but could not be opened. Try opening the channel again. (-2129589901) 0"
I've reinstalled the app 3 times. I've emailed their support, i've contacted them on twitter. They're just ignoring everything about windows phone. This is unacceptable for a company that is owned by Microsoft.
I know some people are going to say this is just an app and you can use the group feature in mango. No, i can't. This app uses data and it works with smart phones as well as dumb phones (via sms). The group chat feature in mango doesn't allow the other people to respond back and talk to each other. This is key for me. I have a group with some people and we need to be able to communicate with each other.
It's things like this that make me want to drop windows phone.
I love windows phone (you can check my post history) but i am really pissed off now. I'm tired of waiting for things to improve. Mango is excellent but it's 2011 and the platform itself doesn't mean anything. It's all about the 3rd party apps.
I mean, look at whatsapp for android and ios and then check it for windows phone. They say they need more time to develop a decent app. Mango beta has been out for months. What's talking so long? Skype? Words with friends? Where are these apps? Is it lack of motivation cause of the 1% market share?
I am seriously considering android ice cream sandwich if google can get their act together and make android as smooth and reliable as my htc windows phone.
trust me...you will find other things to complain about once you switch. The problem I see alot is that people expected a perfect platform. I got bad news for you...there is no such thing. Not Apple, not Android, not WP.
Dude, I know how you feel.
I will be switching my WP7 in the next months. Unfortunately, it's just not the moment. I dont want iPhone 4S, I want iPhone 5. And Android just sucks.
I have no options at all ;/
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trust me...you will find other things to complain about once you switch. The problem I see alot is that people expected a perfect platform. I got bad news for you...there is no such thing. Not Apple, not Android, not WP.
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Sorry, but i never said i expected a perfect platform and i believe windows phone is still the best operating system for any phone. It's the 3rd party apps that are killing it for me.
Microsoft has literally tried to bribe people to develop for them but there just doesn't seem to any interest in developing quality apps.
The core OS can only take you so far. But for what it's worth, i think wp is better than ios and android. But android seems it's better overall.
If something doesn't work you can customize it and fix it yourself.
I used to put a new energy rom on my windows mobile every time nrg came out with an update, so i have no problems putting in the effort and time it takes to tweak an OS. Unfortunately this isn't the case for 3rd party apps. Which is why android seems like a better choice for me.
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I am seriously considering android ice cream sandwich if google can get their act together and make android as smooth and reliable as my htc windows phone.
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This right here proves you're an idiot. You hate the OS and want to switch but will only switch if the OS you're considering switching too can be as good as your current OS. See how stupid that sounds? You come across as one of those miserable people that can have a million positives but one minor negative is the end of the world for you. You will never be happy with an OS.
It makes perfect sense if you read the complete post. I said multiple times that wp as an OS is superior but overall android seems better because of customization and 3rd party apps, but i'll have to see what they do with ice cream sandwich. I wouldn't switch to gingerbread.
What part of that are you having problem comprehending?
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It makes perfect sense if you read the complete post. I said multiple times that wp as an OS is superior but overall android seems better because of customization and 3rd party apps, but i'll have to see what they do with ice cream sandwich. I wouldn't switch to gingerbread.
What part of that are you having problem comprehending?
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from the get-go you already knew android is more customizable and more apps...yet you still purchased WP?
I will be switching to Iphone 5 once my zunepass subscribtion ends.. I am done with this gay phone. Has no decent apps or games in MP, but looks good.. I want a smart'phone not a blonde'phone.
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from the get-go you already knew android is more customizable and more apps...yet you still purchased WP?
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How would i know the quality of the apps would suck? And it would take months to come out with decent apps?
I got the wp when it first came out. Went straight from windows mobile touch pro 2
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How would i know the quality of the apps would suck? And it would take months to come out with decent apps?
I got the wp when it first came out. Went straight from windows mobile touch pro 2
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so you think all apps on other platforms didn't take months and came out perfect when launch...please.
You should know better you are an early adopter to a brand new platform and it will take yrs to refine the OS...just like android and iphone...who took even much longer to reach the current stage.
Yeah i definitely overestimated the brand name of Microsoft.
The only reason android and apple took so long was because times were different back then. It was a new idea and a new way of things. Now, Microsoft has had time to learn from them and should have played things differently. Mango is how the phone should have been released.
I mean, even now, most apps that come out are released for app store and market. Take any bank, or any commercial app. It's just those 2 platforms. Hell, even my local bar has an android/ios app.
There is no awareness of windows phone. It's a shame because it's such a great operating system and it has the potential to be number one.
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so you think all apps on other platforms didn't take months and came out perfect when launch...please.
You should know better you are an early adopter to a brand new platform and it will take yrs to refine the OS...just like android and iphone...who took even longer.
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Its been almost a year since WP7 came out. This lack of awareness was not their in case of ios and Android phones.. After an year of iPhone we HD basically all big names apps in the market ... Android was slow but at least people were aware of that os... After 1 yr noone knows what WP is.
This debate that WP is new is old now... WP is not new anymore.
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Its been almost a year since WP7 came out. This lack of awareness was not their in case of ios and Android phones.. After an year of iPhone we HD basically all big names apps in the market ... Android was slow but at least people were aware of that os... After 1 yr noone knows what WP is.
This debate that WP is new is old now... WP is not new anymore.
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WP got more competitions at launch than iphone & android. At launch who was iphone competitor? At launch who was Android competitor beside Iphone. With that said...I agreed MS needs to upper WP7 awareness....so far it's almost non-existent.
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Its been almost a year since WP7 came out. This lack of awareness was not their in case of ios and Android phones.. After an year of iPhone we HD basically all big names apps in the market ... Android was slow but at least people were aware of that os... After 1 yr noone knows what WP is.
This debate that WP is new is old now... WP is not new anymore.
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Haha, didn't take a year for iOS to have an app store?
Because of one apps and you blamed the whole OS.
Let's me ask you a question.
Are there any mobile OS that have better built-in Social Network support like Windows Phone? And how many Facebook users out there?
And return to the question: You know WP7 is a locked OS and you still bought it, and now you scream out loud and say it is stupid because it can't install 3rd Apps? So, look like you aren't a smart buyer.
if you want 3rd Apps so bad, why don't you register for the Developers Account, and get it unlocked so you can install custom .xap?
I know some people are going to say this is just an app and you can use the group feature in mango. No, i can't. This app uses data and it works with smart phones as well as dumb phones (via sms). The group chat feature in mango doesn't allow the other people to respond back and talk to each other. This is key for me. I have a group with some people and we need to be able to communicate with each other
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after i read this sentence, you are no more than a stupid guy to me.
So, let's me ask you a question, when you send a messege to a group, everyone in the group will receive the same messege. but do they know how many people (which one, what are their numbers...) that you send that messege? And Why do they have to send it back to you and x people in your group?
For an example, you have a group of 15 best friends and you decide to throw a party tonight. You texted the whole group and invite them to the party, some will say "yes", some will say "no", so, why the hell the guy said "yes" even care about the guys said "no"? And is it necessary for him to know about it?
If you want group communicate, i would suggest to visit them instead, or you can do group Skype or simple just create a group chat on PC. Why? Because everytime you send one messege to a group of x people, you have send x messege totally and believe me, if you don't use unlimited plan and you have a long season of group chat on your phone, you will not happy with your phone bill by the end of the month.
If what you said come true, there isn't necessary to have a group chat feature in Skype, Yahoo or Windows Live Messenger, which can be done for free and 100x better on PC.
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Because of one apps and you blamed the whole OS.
Let's me ask you a question.
Are there any mobile OS that have better built-in Social Network support like Windows Phone? And how many Facebook users out there?
And return to the question: You know WP7 is a locked OS and you still bought it, and now you scream out loud and say it is stupid because it can't install 3rd Apps? So, look like you aren't a smart buyer.
if you want 3rd Apps so bad, why don't you register for the Developers Account, and get it unlocked so you can install custom .xap?
after i read this sentence, you are no more than a stupid guy to me.
So, let's me ask you a question, when you send a messege to a group, everyone in the group will receive the same messege. but do they know how many people (which one, what are their numbers...) that you send that messege? And Why do they have to send it back to you and x people in your group?
For an example, you have a group of 15 best friends and you decide to throw a party tonight. You texted the whole group and invite them to the party, some will say "yes", some will say "no", so, why the hell the guy said "yes" even care about the guys said "no"? And is it necessary for him to know about it?
If you want group communicate, i would suggest to visit them instead, or you can do group Skype or simple just create a group chat on PC. Why? Because everytime you send one messege to a group of x people, you have send x messege totally and believe me, if you don't use unlimited plan and you have a long season of group chat on your phone, you will not happy with your phone bill by the end of the month.
If what you said come true, there isn't necessary to have a group chat feature in Skype, Yahoo or Windows Live Messenger, which can be done for free and 100x better on PC.
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By 3rd party apps I meant apps from the marketplace
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By 3rd party apps I meant apps from the marketplace
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so you mean you can't access Marketplace or what?
Or you don't understand the "3rd Party Apps"?
3rd Apps is the apps that developed by individual or company that is not associated with the OEM, like you can develop almost and .cab by your old Windows Mobile 6.5, and you can do the samething with Dev Unlocked Windows Phone 7.
i just switched from android to wp7. i also had iso before android. android is a cluster f**k. have fun with all the buggy force closes
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Because of one apps and you blamed the whole OS.
Let's me ask you a question.
Are there any mobile OS that have better built-in Social Network support like Windows Phone? And how many Facebook users out there?
And return to the question: You know WP7 is a locked OS and you still bought it, and now you scream out loud and say it is stupid because it can't install 3rd Apps? So, look like you aren't a smart buyer.
if you want 3rd Apps so bad, why don't you register for the Developers Account, and get it unlocked so you can install custom .xap?
after i read this sentence, you are no more than a stupid guy to me.
So, let's me ask you a question, when you send a messege to a group, everyone in the group will receive the same messege. but do they know how many people (which one, what are their numbers...) that you send that messege? And Why do they have to send it back to you and x people in your group?
For an example, you have a group of 15 best friends and you decide to throw a party tonight. You texted the whole group and invite them to the party, some will say "yes", some will say "no", so, why the hell the guy said "yes" even care about the guys said "no"? And is it necessary for him to know about it?
If you want group communicate, i would suggest to visit them instead, or you can do group Skype or simple just create a group chat on PC. Why? Because everytime you send one messege to a group of x people, you have send x messege totally and believe me, if you don't use unlimited plan and you have a long season of group chat on your phone, you will not happy with your phone bill by the end of the month.
If what you said come true, there isn't necessary to have a group chat feature in Skype, Yahoo or Windows Live Messenger, which can be done for free and 100x better on PC.
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It's fine to blame the OS. The Developers didn't make the OS have only 1/3rd the API support it needed to support a ton of apps on release.
Microsoft gave them the middle finger and they took it at face value. That's why they're prioritizing WP7 at such a low place right now.
Because iOS/Android sales more phones have more users. It's more advantageous for them to work on Honeycomb/ICS/iOS5 app updates then work on WP7 ports.
People on this forum can yell and scream "we need AppX" all day and all night, but when you get thousands of downloads in the Andorid/iOS App Markets per day and dozens per day in WP7 the choice is clear which one goes on the backburner.
Also, all decent Android phones from Samsung and HTC come with Social Integration. TW4 phones come with Twitter/Facebook/LinkedIn integration. Samsung did People Hub before Microsoft decided what to call it. That's nothing to rave about. It's actually kind of embarassing that they tried to market that as some sort of new and innovative feature. We've already gone over this before. Same for groups.
WP7 did do some innovative things with the way it allows you to pin sublets of Apps to the home screen, but a lot of the marketed built-in functionality already existed for years. The main selling point of the OS is the user experience, not the features.
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never mind .....
I made this thread so people can discuss the addition to HCTLinkify and how it affects you and why it came into existance.
Background:
Apple has a patent on the way Sense (possibly Android 4.0) handles links on screen and how the user interacts with the touch input. Instead of trying to expalin the whole patent dispute I will let you read more HERE
The patent in question is HERE
This is also the reason the delayed Shipping of the HTC One X and the Evo 4G LTE.
Current situation:
HTC has circumvented the patent dispute with the use of HTCLiunkify which simply changes the way it handles the onscreen links. This has caused concern for some users because they feel functionality has been degraded. This is debateble.
My delimna:
Some, handfull of users, are asking me to remove this work around from my ROM and violate apples patended "link" technoilogy. I state that if HTC and Google, Sprint and ATT can be sued so cant I. Maybe this is an unreliatic fear but none the less quite possible.
My Answer: Im not removing at this time but may consider it in the future. ITs functioning the way HTC / ATT intended.
DISCUSS!
Talk about why Apple sucks or you feel this was a good ruling by the courts. Give me a valid reason to take this out of the ROM and risk Apple's wrath (Albiet prolly unrealistic).
More importantly tell me if it even affects you?
Edit...hope this stop discussion in ur thread....see its open again...
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Edit...hope this stop discussion in ur thread....see its open again...
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Yeah, I didint want my thread to get embattled with the apple hatred / why wont you change this debate.
I personally can't stand the half-ass change HTC implemented. When I was running your ROM, I spent a few hours trying to remove it.
The way it's supposed to work is when you click a link to YouTube, Google Play, Google+, etc., it's supposed to prompt you to use the app. If they can no longer prompt because of the lawsuit, they should just redirect the link to the app instead of the browser. Why would anyone want otherwise??
Here's a good example of how stupid it is. When I watch YouTube videos, it's usually from people emailing me a link, sharing it on Google+ or being embedded/linked in a web page. I seldom ever launch the YouTube app to view a video. With their implementation, the YouTube app is virtually useless.
Now, why does your ROM have to have it, but mine doesn't? Mine's obviously based on the Rogers RUU which never implemented the workaround because they didn't have to. But if you successfully removed all AT&T references, we would be left with virtually identical ROMs with different bases. Since your ROM isn't specifically made for US residents, why would that not be ok?
Anyways, discuss
Is there a way to create a flashable mod to remove it so that the user takes responsibility and not the rom developer?
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Turge said:
I personally can't stand the half-ass change HTC implemented. When I was running your ROM, I spent a few hours trying to remove it.
The way it's supposed to work is when you click a link to YouTube, Google Play, Google+, etc., it's supposed to prompt you to use the app. If they can no longer prompt because of the lawsuit, they should just redirect the link to the app instead of the browser. Why would anyone want otherwise??
Here's a good example of how stupid it is. When I watch YouTube videos, it's usually from people emailing me a link, sharing it on Google+ or being embedded/linked in a web page. I seldom ever launch the YouTube app to view a video. With their implementation, the YouTube app is virtually useless.
Now, why does your ROM have to have it, but mine doesn't? Mine's obviously based on the Rogers RUU which never implemented the workaround because they didn't have to. But if you successfully removed all AT&T references, we would be left with virtually identical ROMs with different bases. Since your ROM isn't specifically made for US residents, why would that not be ok?
Anyways, discuss
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I like your way of thinking
I hate the idea of keeping the htclinkify so keep up this way sounds good
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Turge said:
I personally can't stand the half-ass change HTC implemented. When I was running your ROM, I spent a few hours trying to remove it.
The way it's supposed to work is when you click a link to YouTube, Google Play, Google+, etc., it's supposed to prompt you to use the app. If they can no longer prompt because of the lawsuit, they should just redirect the link to the app instead of the browser. Why would anyone want otherwise??
Here's a good example of how stupid it is. When I watch YouTube videos, it's usually from people emailing me a link, sharing it on Google+ or being embedded/linked in a web page. I seldom ever launch the YouTube app to view a video. With their implementation, the YouTube app is virtually useless.
Now, why does your ROM have to have it, but mine doesn't? Mine's obviously based on the Rogers RUU which never implemented the workaround because they didn't have to. But if you successfully removed all AT&T references, we would be left with virtually identical ROMs with different bases. Since your ROM isn't specifically made for US residents, why would that not be ok?
Anyways, discuss
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Good pioint... BUT...
My ROM is (phisicyally) hosted in the US and would therefore need to comply with all US Copright and Patenet laws.
And no... Im not going to buy a server outside of the country to circumvent this, lol
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I like your way of thinking
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LOL.. anyone who knows me knows that I like to challenge things. When I'm told to do something, I do the opposite. (Well, within reason )
Aren't you technically breaking copyright by modifying HTC's software anyway?
Unless somewhere they state that their Sense stuff is free to modify. They provide the source so that people can work use that for open-source AOSP. Sense, I believe (I could be wrong) is NOT open source.
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Aren't you technically breaking copyright by modifying HTC's software anyway?
Unless somewhere they state that their Sense stuff is free to modify. They provide the source so that people can work use that for open-source AOSP. Sense, I believe (I could be wrong) is NOT open source.
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Its not open source but HTC has differnt policies than Apple.
Ive never seen HTC Threaten to sue someoen.. Well once.. but that was because unreleased code was being released (IE LEaked ROMS for devices that were not even on the market yet). But other than that they given the "unofficial" greent light to making modifications to there product and distibute
We are called the "enthusiast community" and help sell there product. This is why HTC has created HTCDev.com. Specifically to unlock the pohones for the purpose of custom built ROMS / Mods, etc, no?
I am also part of HTC Elevate (elevate.htc.com <- Private boys club for HTC developers and vendors and HTC Staff to dicsuss HTC Products, give input, request changes to products) and will try to seek clarification. But HTC and Apple are two differnt animals all together.
If Apple opened up the bootloaders on iCrap devices I would agree with your point but honestly... Two differnt animals we are talking about.
Once the above issue occrued (releaseing unreleased code) HTC Made a statement at that time that it was ok to re-release the code as long as it was normally publicly available... IE Not Leaked code and definetlay not leaked for device that were not even on the market yet.
Search Google / XDA for this word "conflipper" You will understand then...
Also, I want to point out...
This is about Apple, not HTC. If HTC opens a lawsuit with me for making Custom ROMS then I am pretty sure all of XDA woudl be shut down, etc etc etc...
So lets not derail the Apple issue with HTC...
Its an Apple to Oranges comparison (Get it, Apple, gett it?)
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Its not open source but HTC has differnt policies than Apple.
Ive never seen HTC Threaten to sue someoen.. Well once.. but that was because unreleased code was being modified and released. But other htan that they give the "unofficial" greent light to making modifications to there product.
We are called the "enthusiast community" and help sell ther eproduct. This is why HTC has created HTCDev.com. Specifically to unlock the pohones for the purpose of custom built ROMS, no?
I am also part of HTC Elevate (elevate.htc.com <- Private boys club for HTC developers and vendors and cool users!) and will try to seek clarification. But HTC and apple are two differnt animals all together.
If Apple opened up the bootloaders on iCrap devices I would agree with your point but honestly... Tow differnt animals we are talking about.
Once the above issue occrued (releaseing unreleased code) HTC Made a statement at that time that it was ok to re-release the code as long as it was normally publicly available...
Search Google / XDA for this word "conflipper" You will understand then...
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It's a little different, but I remember HTC asking the developers of Launcher Pro to remove their "HTC-like" flip clock from their launcher. I don't think they're bothered with all of the other flip clock developers since though since it might just have been a momentary lapse of judgement, or a rogue power-tripping HTC employee. Just wanted to point out that there is a little bit of history between HTC and developers.
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It's a little different, but I remember HTC asking the developers of Launcher Pro to remove their "HTC-like" flip clock from their launcher. I don't think they're bothered with all of the other flip clock developers since though since it might just have been a momentary lapse of judgement, or a rogue power-tripping HTC employee. Just wanted to point out that there is a little bit of history between HTC and developers.
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That is a dieffernt case though... But once again... This is not about HTC suing anyone, its about Apple.
Lets keep the discussion on Apple being the douceh bags, not HTC.
Me and a friend were thinking. Say for example when you go buy your phone. You pay an extra 20 bucks for the apple tech. Just a thought. And yes I understand that it still is an imperfect plan but everybody wins. We as consumers get what we want and apple gets there money for there code.
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Hey I don't like to support apple either. But this whole mess hurts everybody including apple. Apple looks like a big jackass for suing over something so stupid and all the rest of the cellphone makers have to scramble to fix this while all of their product sits in the ports.
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Never ever support Crapple products.
Turge said:
I personally can't stand the half-ass change HTC implemented. When I was running your ROM, I spent a few hours trying to remove it.
The way it's supposed to work is when you click a link to YouTube, Google Play, Google+, etc., it's supposed to prompt you to use the app. If they can no longer prompt because of the lawsuit, they should just redirect the link to the app instead of the browser. Why would anyone want otherwise??
Here's a good example of how stupid it is. When I watch YouTube videos, it's usually from people emailing me a link, sharing it on Google+ or being embedded/linked in a web page. I seldom ever launch the YouTube app to view a video. With their implementation, the YouTube app is virtually useless.
Now, why does your ROM have to have it, but mine doesn't? Mine's obviously based on the Rogers RUU which never implemented the workaround because they didn't have to. But if you successfully removed all AT&T references, we would be left with virtually identical ROMs with different bases. Since your ROM isn't specifically made for US residents, why would that not be ok?
Anyways, discuss
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Completely agree. I would prefer the links just opening directly w/in the apps, even if I dont get the luxury of a prompt. the apps are far better - and intended - for viewing the content that many of these links are referring to. I dont want XDA, YouTube, Facebook, Groupon, etc. all opening up my browser and viewing what is often a 'desktop' site as directed by the link. If I want that, I can just copy/paste the link into my browser, but I'd nearly always prefer that a link automatically went directly into the associated app. i'd support pretty much any method available for getting a damn link to open in an app that I already have on my phone and, therefore, presumably would rather use over the web version of the site. I mean, why else would the user have apps? To me, this is a prime example of where patent laws have just gone too far.
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Me and a friend were thinking. Say for example when you go buy your phone. You pay an extra 20 bucks for the apple tech. Just a thought. And yes I understand that it still is an imperfect plan but everybody wins. We as consumers get what we want and apple gets there money for there code.
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Hey I don't like to support apple either. But this whole mess hurts everybody including apple. Apple looks like a big jackass for suing over something so stupid and all the rest of the cellphone makers have to scramble to fix this while all of their product sits in the ports.
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Actually this is a feasible busniess model! Did you know that Google has to pay Microsoft every time an Android phone is activcated due to patentes used by Google in the Android OS.
Microsoft was smart about it. Apple is just plain ****ing greedy. How many 12 year old Asian boys does it take to make an iPod.... Ask Apple they can tell you.
Google it... Goole everything I say. Its all true.
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Completely agree. I would prefer the links just opening directly w/in the apps, even if I dont get the luxury of a prompt. the apps are far better - and intended - for viewing the content that many of these links are referring to. I dont want XDA, YouTube, Facebook, Groupon, etc. all opening up my browser and viewing what is often a 'desktop' site as directed by the link. If I want that, I can just copy/paste the link into my browser, but I'd nearly always prefer that a link automatically went directly into the associated app. i'd support pretty much any method available for getting a damn link to open in an app that I already have on my phone and, therefore, presumably would rather use over the web version of the site. I mean, why else would the user have apps? To me, this is a prime example of where patent laws have just gone too far.
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To be honest with you man. Can someone explain to me what it even does differntly? When I click phone number in a text message it goes right to the phone.
What doesnt even work? Or work as expected?
scrosler said:
Also, I want to point out...
This is about Apple, not HTC. If HTC opens a lawsuit with me for making Custom ROMS then I am pretty sure all of XDA woudl be shut down, etc etc etc...
So lets not derail the Apple issue with HTC...
Its an Apple to Oranges comparison (Get it, Apple, gett it?)
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Well, the point was originally raised to ask "Where do we draw the line?".
I'm sure Cyanogenmod will never have to worry about Apple, so why should we/you?
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Just a poll. Just downloaded google maps on iOS and it is AMAZING. It looks really polished and feels really smooth. My question is does it look better than the Android one? Pick a side!
If you dont have an iOS device (which is probably most everyone here ), here are some screenshots:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/google-maps/id585027354?mt=8
Are you serious?
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Looks way WAY better.... How dare Google skimp on Android and make the apple stuff better..... im mad this poped up on tapatalk 1st :banghead:
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Are you serious?
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Why yes! Are you?
No really....it does look really nice in my opinion. Not saying that the android one is bad, it works just as well. Its just Google did a good job on the iOS app. No need to hate. :good:
neopolotin75 said:
Looks way WAY better.... How dare Google skimp on Android and make the apple stuff better..... im mad this poped up on tapatalk 1st :banghead:
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I'm guessing this is sarcasm by the previous post. Correct me if i'm wrong
Haven't tried it.
Still can't compete with the s3..besides you can't see very much on a 4 inch vs a 4.8.....and why post this in the galaxy s3forum
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I don't know why Google gave them turn by turn navigation. I read before that was the reason apple made their own maps; because Google would not include navigation for free after spending so much money into their mapping software.
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I think Google is playing a bigger picture, where they want everyone to use and custom to their Map app. Basically they said, there is only one map for mobil phones and tablets and it's GOOGLE MAP.
Think of all the iPhone users out there. They would be losing a huge base of they didn't do this. Remember the old saying.. "keep your friends close but your enemies closer."
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I don't know how this poll can be conducted if the majority of members here are Galaxy S3 users who most likely don't have an iPhone. Furthermore, I don't see any reason for this to be here. Who cares.
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Think of all the iPhone users out there. They would be losing a huge base of they didn't do this. Remember the old saying.. "keep your friends close but your enemies closer."
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In this case, Google might start losing their friends.
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I don't know why Google gave them turn by turn navigation. I read before that was the reason apple made their own maps; because Google would not include navigation for free after spending so much money into their mapping software.
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The explanation I heard was that Apple was making the map app with Google data, but Google's licenses with their map data providers prohibited them from sharing real-time turn by turn direction data with third parties.
One of the reasons I sold my iPhone 4S was because Apple Maps were awful. Now that Google has released their Maps app for iOS, I might be willing to pick up another iPhone in the future (but I'd never go strictly iPhone...I'll always have an Android-based phone).
I'm a little ticked that Google admits the iOS version is "better" than the Android version, although it wouldn't surprise me to see an update in the Play Store soon to bring the Android version in line with the iOS version. Still, you'd think they'd do that BEFORE releasing it to iOS, if for no other reason than to not piss off their base of Android users.
While it's a smart move for Google overall (to re-widen their base of Google Maps users to include iPhone users again), it's not exactly showing the biggest girth of loyalty to people that have adopted their platform. I hope they'll fix that soon.
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One of the reasons I sold my iPhone 4S was because Apple Maps were awful. Now that Google has released their Maps app for iOS, I might be willing to pick up another iPhone in the future (but I'd never go strictly iPhone...I'll always have an Android-based phone).
I'm a little ticked that Google admits the iOS version is "better" than the Android version, although it wouldn't surprise me to see an update in the Play Store soon to bring the Android version in line with the iOS version. Still, you'd think they'd do that BEFORE releasing it to iOS, if for no other reason than to not piss off their base of Android users.
While it's a smart move for Google overall (to re-widen their base of Google Maps users to include iPhone users again), it's not exactly showing the biggest girth of loyalty to people that have adopted their platform. I hope they'll fix that soon.
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I think the reason is because they know the Android people have no intention of switching, but they know that the iPhone people might be willing to switch. Its sort of ironic really...they are trying to get them to switch, but make an awesome maps on the iphone.
And I posted this here because I know a lot of people who have ipads and Androids, so i thought at least some people would have an ios device. Second of all, i put screenshots in the OP.
Not sure if it had anything to do with third parties. Google wanted full control of the app, with their name on it. When apple refused, Google then refused to supply extra features like turn by turn and street view.
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New Maps and Gmail look better on iOS. Google is testing out the new UI there first and I hope it comes to Android fast.
On online forums deluded iFans are now claiming this is another reason to choose iPhone since it has better maps - how stupid can they get??
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New Maps and Gmail look better on iOS. Google is testing out the new UI there first and I hope it comes to Android fast.
On online forums deluded iFans are now claiming this is another reason to choose iPhone since it has better maps - how stupid can they get??
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Wow.
Also Google made sure their new Maps runs on all iPhones and iOS versions. Not like Apple with their lies and forcing people to buy a new phone just to get new features in software. And Google is helping users on a competitor. When was the last time Apple helped anyone? They even laugh at their own user's problems.
I wish Google had taken this opportunity to poke some fun at Apple and ridicule their crap software in iOS. It would be a good way to increase Android share.
So Google gave apple the updated maps first? No matter what.. Apple always gets stuff first lol. Even when it comes to Google.
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Google announced today that the successor to the Android "Jelly Bean" OS will be named Android 4.4 "KitKat" instead of the highly anticipated and rumored Android 5.0 "Key Lime Pie" OS. As of the initial announcement today, no "real" information or details have been released to the public. Over the coming weeks, many rumors and supposed "leaks" will indeed pop up regarding Google's new "Kit Kat."
Android.com - http://www.android.com/kitkat/index.html
Android Google+ Page - https://plus.google.com/+android/posts/fuhQneSFKZX
XDA-Developers - http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-announces-android-4-4-kitkat/
ABC News - http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/android-44-kit-kat-google-teams-nestle-version/story?id=20146239
Nestle's "Kit Kat® 4.4: The future of confectionery has arrived" Homepage - (This is a really neat page..check it out) - http://kitkat.com/#/home
----Kit Kat in Space on YouTube(From the Nestle page above) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIhPDuvr3No
What are your thoughts?
I think kitkat sucks for a name honestly.
Excited for the OS tho.
Everyone did a great job keeping the name secret. Pretty hard to keep things private these days.
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Company that makes it's money off adverts or not, this is embarrassing....definition of selling out.
This will "cheapen" Android to the point where I will go back to WinMo if the next version is not generic.
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Company that makes it's money off adverts or not, this is embarrassing....definition of selling out.
This will "cheapen" Android to the point where I will go back to WinMo if the next version is not generic.
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Good luck with that switch to an inferior OS with no app development. Let me know how that goes for you.
I don't think it'll cheapen the os. I think its gonna being in revenue for both of them. Selling out would be like giving the os to one OEM and doing like apple.
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Company that makes it's money off adverts or not, this is embarrassing....definition of selling out.
This will "cheapen" Android to the point where I will go back to WinMo if the next version is not generic.
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No money exchanged hands for this partnership, it's just 2 companies working together to help promote each other. I think it's great.
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No money exchanged hands for this partnership, it's just 2 companies working together to help promote each other. I think it's great.
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Yep, I thought it was a revenue-generating deal at first. Then I read a few articles and I learned otherwise. I think it's a great thing for both companies. I just think the name is a little "off," if you will...
Especially from a company named Google
SO??
Google is a marketing company,not a software company. That's all,
I would be so damn happy if this version of Android were to be released for our beloved GS3 (as in, Samsung making the all-mighty "hail mary pass," and skipping the previous versions up to this one), however seeing as how we have yet to even receive Android 4.2.2, a year old release might I add, I have a feeling we will be left out in the cold yet again. And of course this is just my luck; started into Android with the Droid 2 Global and got shafted in terms of updates, moved up the Droid Bionic and yet again got shafted with regards to updates, and here we are with Samsung.
Edit: After reading some more into KitKat and finding the motto of 4.4, "to make an amazing Android experience available for everybody," a little of my hope has been restored.