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so hearing the rumors of a new nexus coming with ice cream does that mean us current nexus s users especially the 4g won't get the ice cream update? id like to think the phone will be supported for awhile yet?
fixxxer2008 said:
so hearing the rumors of a new nexus coming with ice cream does that mean us current nexus s users especially the 4g won't get the ice cream update? id like to think the phone will be supported for awhile yet?
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Of course our beloved phone will get the latest updates, at least for 18 months after the release. Nexus One already has the Gingerbread update, why wouldn't we get Ice cream Sandwich?
You can sleep tight, our Nexus S will continue to be supported for quite some time
treUse said:
Of course our beloved phone will get the latest updates, at least for 18 months after the release. Nexus One already has the Gingerbread update, why wouldn't we get Ice cream Sandwich?
You can sleep tight, our Nexus S will continue to be supported for quite some time
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mostly because i heard you will need a dual core to run it and our phones do not have that.
that's typical marketing bull ****. They said the same thing about gingerbread and my HTC CDMA hero is running it faster than the original 1.6.
Google never said that any newer version of android will need dual core. This is just what all the manufacturers would like you to believe so you buy into the hype and spend money for a new phone.
I bet you, all Nexus line phones will get ice cream sandwich before the SDK is even posted.
obsanity said:
that's typical marketing bull ****. They said the same thing about gingerbread and my HTC CDMA hero is running it faster than the original 1.6.
Google never said that any newer version of android will need dual core. This is just what all the manufacturers would like you to believe so you buy into the hype and spend money for a new phone.
I bet you, all Nexus line phones will get ice cream sandwich before the SDK is even posted.
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good to know!
fixxxer2008 said:
so hearing the rumors of a new nexus coming with ice cream does that mean us current nexus s users especially the 4g won't get the ice cream update? id like to think the phone will be supported for awhile yet?
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Google has been courting both HTC and LG for the next Nexus device. I posted a link to HTC's candidate on another thread. I know a lot of people will be disappointed if we dont get it but the NS4G is only weeks old the device itself is going on 6 months ...ours is just a refresh with a 4G radio. That being said i still think most 1ghz processor/512mb + devices should see the update. Eventhough at launch it wasnt the best speced device available. (A lot of the reason N1 users didnt jump ship for it and the reason we dont have the following of the N1 imo.)But all the reports from Google IO/CNET say its to bridge the gap between handsets and tabs. I know it stings but our device is dated already I'm not saying its a lack luster device but...It's not like the N1 which is still comparable to a majority of high end handsets available. The Nexus S just didn't make the evolutionary jump as far as the N1 did IMO. But time will tell I guess.
ICS info...
http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=20062119&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-266
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I will upgrade regardless. The Nexus S is an excellent device, but I could use more RAM.
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Hi all,
After ICS OTA upgrade, will I have to reconfigure and reinstall all the apps?? Also, what about the media data?
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It dosen't matter. Just backup with Titanium Backup and restore when it comes.
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Hi all,
After ICS OTA upgrade, will I have to reconfigure and reinstall all the apps?? Also, what about the media data?
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You'll want to wait for a rooted version of the OTA anyway. It'll be out hours after the source is released. Then you can just use your favorite backup app to get your stuff back.
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Do we know approximately when the ICS is set to come. Since I got the 3D I haven't really kept up with Nexus news but I'm looking to come back to the flagship.
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Samfirmware stated on twitter two days ago that it was close.
Twitter.com/samfirmware
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Don't see why it would take Google sooooo long to release the OTA ? I mean, The community has had it built for Weeks. I guess I'm just a bit too impatient and don't really feel like rooting my phone.
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I'm the same. I've rooted by all the ICS ROM's still have bugs. I'd already have a Galaxy Nexus if they did not delay and delay then have volume bugs! If they released all the drivers from day one, we'd have a million decent custom ROM's...
the nexus s is supposed to be an android flagship phone. Its built with vanilla android so its the first and easiest phone to update, yet for weeks now people are walking around with 4.0 on their galaxy nexus and nexus s users are still left in the dark. say what you will about apple but when an update comes out all compatible devices receive the update that day. obviously im not saying every android should get this update in a timely manner, but a phone by google made for this situation certainly should
I have a question when they said that nexus s should receive ice cream sandwich within " weeks" after galaxy nexus release. Do you guys think the clock has started or are did they mean release in the united states?
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the nexus s is supposed to be an android flagship phone. Its built with vanilla android so its the first and easiest phone to update, yet for weeks now people are walking around with 4.0 on their galaxy nexus and nexus s users are still left in the dark.
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Yeah, you may want to recall how us Nexus One users were treated with Gingerbread when the NS came out. ICS was probably developed primarily on the GN, so NS development slips on the totem pole. At least you are getting official ICS...
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Yeah, you may want to recall how us Nexus One users were treated with Gingerbread when the NS came out. ICS was probably developed primarily on the GN, so NS development slips on the totem pole. At least you are getting official ICS...
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yea your right, im very happy just to be on gingerbread (anyone with an x10 or intercept will agree with me) and i wouldnt even mind waiting for the update, its mostly the lack of any information from google thats killing me
hamiltus said:
Don't see why it would take Google sooooo long to release the OTA ? I mean, The community has had it built for Weeks. I guess I'm just a bit too impatient and don't really feel like rooting my phone.
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Because unlike the Community, Google has certain standards it must meet before releasing an OTA. I mean no respect towards the community but no company could ever release partially working builds.
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the nexus s is supposed to be an android flagship phone. Its built with vanilla android so its the first and easiest phone to update, yet for weeks now people are walking around with 4.0 on their galaxy nexus and nexus s users are still left in the dark. say what you will about apple but when an update comes out all compatible devices receive the update that day. obviously im not saying every android should get this update in a timely manner, but a phone by google made for this situation certainly should
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The Nexus S will get a ICS update LOOONNNGGGG before any other phone will and ICS was built for the Galaxy Nexus so THAT was the first and easiest to develop for. The Nexus S is next.
I don't really care the Nexus S gets the update before other phones, I just want it asap.
I'd gladly have every compatible phone receive ICS tomorrow as long as I got it on my NS.
And, much as I don't like it; the Apple comparisons are true. Apple do release new OS available for everyone to download on the same day their new device featuring that OS is launched.
People say that it would be ridiculous to expect updates until the GN has been out a while, but why? Google should have made the next update available on the day they announced ICS.
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I don't really care the Nexus S gets the update before other phones, I just want it asap.
I'd gladly have every compatible phone receive ICS tomorrow as long as I got it on my NS.
And, much as I don't like it; the Apple comparisons are true. Apple do release new OS available for everyone to download on the same day their new device featuring that OS is launched.
People say that it would be ridiculous to expect updates until the GN has been out a while, but why? Google should have made the next update available on the day they announced ICS.
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Apple also restricts new features to older phones to encourage people to upgrade. Just look at Siri as a fine example, it's *only* available on the 4s even though it's been proven that it will run fine on the 4. Similar constraints can be found with each model upgrade.
When ICS comes out for the nexus S, it will be fully functional with no neutering of any feature. so how does one "encourage" people to upgrade? you delay the update to crank in some early sales.
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Apple also restricts new features to older phones to encourage people to upgrade. Just look at Siri as a fine example, it's *only* available on the 4s even though it's been proven that it will run fine on the 4. Similar constraints can be found with each model upgrade.
When ICS comes out for the nexus S, it will be fully functional with no neutering of any feature. so how does one "encourage" people to upgrade? you delay the update to crank in some early sales.
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all because thats true it doesnt make the other point invalid. When a new iphone comes out, all iphones (and ipod touches mind you) get the update that day.
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all because thats true it doesnt make the other point invalid. When a new iphone comes out, all iphones (and ipod touches mind you) get the update that day.
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Does the iPod second generation have IOS 5? What about the original iPhone?
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Matridom said:
Does the iPod second generation have IOS 5? What about the original iPhone?
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is the nexus one getting ICS? how about the G1?
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is the nexus one getting ICS? how about the G1?
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Point, but this is due to hardware limitations. Siri for example will run fine on older devices. also if I know the Xda, there will be a ROM available
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Point, but this is due to hardware limitations. Siri for example will run fine on older devices. also if I know the Xda, there will be a ROM available
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of course there will be, there already are roms available now for the g1. the original iphone obviously has the same problem the g1 has, hardware limitations. When 4.0 came out the iphone 3gs was laggy and almost unusable until apple released a second update to fix the mess. But were losing sight of the point, when an OS is released by apple all phones (fine all compatible phones) get it that day. Sure it doesnt have all the features as the newest iphones, and by not all the features i mean ONE feature as in siri, but they get the update at least. What have we received since the galaxy nexus was released? And i honestly dont even care enough to keep talking about it, but when ever people hear about apple they always have to but in with "YEA BUT APPLE SUCKS CAUSE ____" which isnt the point, i was making a comparison.
like i said before all because one statement is true, it doesnt make the other statement false.
not sure if anyone else noticed that motorola has a tentative upgrade to ICS list and the atrix 2 is NOT on that list. razr, bionic and xoom devices.
https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/manager/softwareupgrades
IF motorola decides to upgrade the A2 to ICS, by the time they blur it up, and att approves it, there will be much better out and you'll be at your next upgrade point.
No, most of us will have just sold the phone for something else or bit the bullet and kept it while getting something else. Not exactly an upgrade in the most carrier specific sense of the term.
And yes that thought occurred to me. I'm surprised they haven't updated the list to include the Atrix 2, since it's so similar to some other phones they're upgrading to ICS.
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No, most of us will have just sold the phone for something else or bit the bullet and kept it while getting something else. Not exactly an upgrade in the most carrier specific sense of the term.
And yes that thought occurred to me. I'm surprised they haven't updated the list to include the Atrix 2, since it's so similar to some other phones they're upgrading to ICS.
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Its not entirely motos fault, its mainly att's fault
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Sigh........ I love this phone, I don't understand why everybody leaves it behind... Goddamn AT&T and Motorola!!
Motorola said it would be up to 6 weeks after ICS source code was released before they would give an update to what devices would get ICS. Right now to make the assumption we won't get it is just pure speculation since it has not been stated anywhere that we won't.
JRW 28 said:
Motorola said it would be up to 6 weeks after ICS source code was released before they would give an update to what devices would get ICS. Right now to make the assumption we won't get it is just pure speculation since it has not been stated anywhere that we won't.
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for the phones they have planned now, which is the razr and bionic. it will be a 6-8 months minimum if they choose to upgrade the atrix 2.
by then, jellybean will be releasing...
i've seen this with the x10, which att finally approved the x10a to 2.1 in june... and it never received the 2.3 update that the x10i received over seas. same phone, same hardware, just no att iron fist.
Im gonna disagree with ya. Coming from the OG ATRIX back when it was running froyo, it got gingerbread when 90%+ was still running froyo. AT&T has been better at pushing updates to their phones then any of the big 3 in my opinion. How many phones has been listed as getting ICS for sure from AT&T? Vivid and Skyrocket? ATRIX 2 was released just before them.
I know you've had problems with your phone. But take away the problems you were having would you still be getting a new phone? I have had zero problems with my phone and would bet that everyone else that has had the same luck would be very content with their phones also.
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not sure if anyone else noticed that motorola has a tentative upgrade to ICS list and the atrix 2 is NOT on that list. razr, bionic and xoom devices.
https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/manager/softwareupgrades
IF motorola decides to upgrade the A2 to ICS, by the time they blur it up, and att approves it, there will be much better out and you'll be at your next upgrade point.
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Well.....
Hmmm....
I think it is coming. But as it turns out I sold my Atrix 2 today and decided to move back to CDMA service. I have just not been all that happy with AT&T in my area. SOOoooo, don't laugh. I bought a Samsung Vitality with Muve Music on cricket. It will tie me over and I am excited about the included music service. I am alot better with CDMA over GSM, so it looks like I will be grabbing a razr and getting it over to cricket. so long atrix 2 guys
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Motorola said it would be up to 6 weeks after ICS source code was released before they would give an update to what devices would get ICS. Right now to make the assumption we won't get it is just pure speculation since it has not been stated anywhere that we won't.
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I agree. If I don't see the Atrix 2 on the second wave of devices Moto has slated to get ICS then I'll start to lose faith.
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i've seen this with the x10, which att finally approved the x10a to 2.1 in june... and it never received the 2.3 update that the x10i received over seas. same phone, same hardware, just no att iron fist.
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That's not true, the X10 did get 2.3, officially, through AT&T.
That page hasn't been updated since before ICS code was released. Notice NONE of the new phones are on it nor is our MB865
This page details plans for Android software upgrades only; other various routine updates will be delivered to optimize device experiences and these will be communicated separately when deployed.
A note about Ice Cream Sandwich:
We are planning to upgrade DROID RAZR™ by Motorola, Motorola RAZR™, Motorola XOOM™ (including Family Edition) and DROID BIONIC™ by Motorola to Ice Cream Sandwich. We will provide more precise guidance on timing after post-public push of Ice Cream Sandwich by Google, as well as any possible additions to this list of devices.
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A note about Ice Cream Sandwich:
We are planning to upgrade DROID RAZR™ by Motorola, Motorola RAZR™, Motorola XOOM™ (including Family Edition) and DROID BIONIC™ by Motorola to Ice Cream Sandwich. We will provide more precise guidance on timing after post-public push of Ice Cream Sandwich by Google, as well as any possible additions to this list of devices.
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This quote was there before the source code to ICS. Notice below where each phone is listed by country. None of those phones are listed nor is ours. What I'm saying is that this page hasnt been updated for some time
Also take note in that statement "as well as any possible additions to this list of devices." See they even State Possible Additions which could equal any number of devices.
honestly, that's my biggest issue. no one knows for sure and motorola will not say otherwise.
i have 7 days left on my 30 day return, i will not get stuck with another upgrade locked device. motorola will not say, i have no more free time with this phone.
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honestly, that's my biggest issue. no one knows for sure and motorola will not say otherwise.
i have 7 days left on my 30 day return, i will not get stuck with another upgrade locked device. motorola will not say, i have no more free time with this phone.
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I'm getting whiplash from the number of times you've told us you're done with this phone, but then somehow you're still here.
jacindc said:
I'm getting whiplash from the number of times you've told us you're done with this phone, but then somehow you're still here.
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i've been done with the phone, i went to att on tuesday to exchange, they informed me that there are new phones coming on sunday, i'm waiting to see what is coming and if current models drop in price.
One thing you will notice about the devices that were listed, they are only the Verizon devices. I still believe that we will get ICS on our phones but ATT is usually tight lipped on their updates, they happen, you just don't hear about it. I believe that part of that statement is Verizon marketing.
I think it will have an up date. Moto has no AT&T phones for the ICS update. What better phone to upgrade than this. Samsung has gs2 but honestly I think this will see the update. We have a webtop,dual core. I just don't see AT&T and moto "not" updating this. They are tight lipped as stated before.
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I think it will have an up date. Moto has no AT&T phones for the ICS update. What better phone to upgrade than this. Samsung has gs2 but honestly I think this will see the update. We have a webtop,dual core. I just don't see AT&T and moto "not" updating this. They are tight lipped as stated before.
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I completely agree.
Personally I feel if moto doesn't want to support the device anymore they should be obligated to unlock the bootloader so we can support it ourselves.
That said. I 100% believe Moto will update
the A2 to ICS.
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Has anyone looked at what it would take to port CM9 to this tablet yet?
I would love "ICS" on my 7.0 plus!! Please!!
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As I understand Samsung is releasing ICS during the fist quarter, no release date yet.
I don't think developers are interesting in working on it until it's released. I'm running ICS on my phone, Samsung hasn't released the drivers so the developers have put in a lot of hours and hard work, it's not perfect but getting close. The battery life was terrible at first due to not having the proper drivers but over time it has gotten pretty decent. A working GPS is also an issue, again due to lack of proper drivers. I think the main difference ICS will never be released for my phone unlike our tabs.
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As I understand Samsung is releasing ICS during the fist quarter, no release date yet.
I don't think developers are interesting in working on it until it's released. I'm running ICS on my phone, Samsung hasn't released the drivers so the developers have put in a lot of hours and hard work, it's not perfect but getting close. The battery life was terrible at first due to not having the proper drivers but over time it has gotten pretty decent. A working GPS is also an issue, again due to lack of proper drivers. I think the main difference ICS will never be released for my phone unlike our tabs.
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I agree, it would be a waste of time for the devs. Patience....
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Agree. Am running the port of CM9 on my NC and while it's sweet and interesting...waiting for the official release is the way to go as its so close.
I seriously doubt samsung will release ICS for our g-tab Q1. If we're lucky it will be Q2, but i'm thinking worst case scenario Q3.
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I seriously doubt samsung will release ICS for our g-tab Q1. If we're lucky it will be Q2, but i'm thinking worst case scenario Q3.
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I believe they have stated q1 numerous times I'm new to samsungs so I'm not completely sure if they are true on their release dates. It seems to me it would be a waste of time for the devs to even bother until ics is officially released
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I believe they have stated q1 numerous times I'm new to samsungs so I'm not completely sure if they are true on their release dates. It seems to me it would be a waste of time for the devs to even bother until ics is officially released
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Samsung has a laughably bad reputation as far as updates go, if they aren't the worse then they are close to it. I would like to see ICS hit Q1 but I will expect it sometime this summer or fall.
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Samsung has a laughably bad reputation as far as updates go, if they aren't the worse then they are close to it. I would like to see ICS hit Q1 but I will expect it sometime this summer or fall.
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Not to derail but you can argue that all android manufacturers are slow with updates, Samsung gets a lot of attention because they sell a lot of phones.
With that said, Samsung is painfully slow and I think this device stands little to no chance of a Q1 update, just my opinion.
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Whenever a carrier, (e.g. AT&T, TMobile, Sprint, Verizon) gets involved, the updates slow to a crawl. In all fairness to Samsung, they've been pretty good with updates to the 10.1. I've seen an update to 3.1 and 3.2 since I bought mine on launch day, and they were fairly quick. Mind you, I'm taking into account the fact that Samsung had to put touchwiz on Honeycomb and fix some of the issues that were left behind when Honeycomb launched. We've also seen Samsung move rather quickly to resolve issues on the 7Plus, including an update that dropped last night that is supposed to fix the SOD issue. All in all, Samsung has been good about updating its wifi-only devices, so while I'm confident that the phones will miss that Q1 deadline, I have high hopes for the tablets.
I hear you but talk to original galaxy tab wifi owners who are still rocking GB.
Hmmm, there was an ota last night?
On topic, I would cm9 on this device. Fingers crossed.
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The reason I asked this is not so much that I can't wait for ICS. It is more derived from wanting an ASOP-ish experience. I am also thinking about the future. OEMs are usually good for the first year of supporting the devices they make. Then they start to fail claiming that the device is not "compatable" with the latest version. I have an old HTC hero that my son uses as an MP3 player. It is running CM7 and the OEM claimed that it would not support gingerbread, heck they even have an ICS port for it.
CM seems to have a good record of keeping supported devices working. I am sure that once ICS is released for the 7 plus there will be custom builds available.
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I hear you but talk to original galaxy tab wifi owners who are still rocking GB.
Hmmm, there was an ota last night?
On topic, I would cm9 on this device. Fingers crossed.
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I am an original galaxy tab owner still rocking GB. (I've flashed ICS, but I decided to rollback until the camera issues have been solved and more of my Gameloft purchases are updated for ICS compatibility,) I'm not overly upset that Samsung didn't update it to ICS, but that may just be a personal thing.
Samsung started rolling out an OTA last night that will be pushed to all devices over the next two weeks.
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I am an original galaxy tab owner still rocking GB. (I've flashed ICS, but I decided to rollback until the camera issues have been solved and more of my Gameloft purchases are updated for ICS compatibility,) I'm not overly upset that Samsung didn't update it to ICS, but that may just be a personal thing.
Samsung started rolling out an OTA last night that will be pushed to all devices over the next two weeks.
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Official GB? Last I checked the original galaxy tab 7 owners were still rocking Froyo, officially.
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Official GB? Last I checked the original galaxy tab 7 owners were still rocking Froyo, officially.
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Official GB. If I were still on Froyo, then I'd be quite upset at Samsung.
lrs421 said:
Not to derail but you can argue that all android manufacturers are slow with updates, Samsung gets a lot of attention because they sell a lot of phones.
With that said, Samsung is painfully slow and I think this device stands little to no chance of a Q1 update, just my opinion.
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They are not only slow but also the updates themselves are notoriously bad and it usually takes a long time for bug fixes. Samsung's software development side is really not that great.
You are right though, as of right now all of the manufacturers suck pretty hardcore. It's pretty ridiculous really, hopefully they get better with releasing fewer devices.
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Whenever a carrier, (e.g. AT&T, TMobile, Sprint, Verizon) gets involved, the updates slow to a crawl. In all fairness to Samsung, they've been pretty good with updates to the 10.1. I've seen an update to 3.1 and 3.2 since I bought mine on launch day, and they were fairly quick. Mind you, I'm taking into account the fact that Samsung had to put touchwiz on Honeycomb and fix some of the issues that were left behind when Honeycomb launched. We've also seen Samsung move rather quickly to resolve issues on the 7Plus, including an update that dropped last night that is supposed to fix the SOD issue. All in all, Samsung has been good about updating its wifi-only devices, so while I'm confident that the phones will miss that Q1 deadline, I have high hopes for the tablets.
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Yes, it is key to not forget the carrier influences and also bear in mind that carrier-specific variants of, e.g., the Galaxy S2 were not within the scope of Samsung's ICS in Q1 announcement.
My previous phone was the Epic 4G. It was the first US carrier variant to receive official Froyo and Gingerbread updates but it received them well after the "stock" Galaxy S model (GT-I9000, I believe) received them.
So in other words, when looking at Samsung's update record, remember to compare apples to apples. Nexus One got its official Froyo upgrade in May of 2010, I think. The GT-I9000 got its official Froyo upgrade in August. Gingerbread was released in December of 2010 on the Nexus S. I believe the Nexus One got its upgrade in January of 2011 and the GT-I9000 got its GB upgrade in March of 2011.
All in all, not too shabby for Samsung. It's only when you factor in variants (which have all been customized to various degrees which require OS customization) and carrier agendas (I believe AT&T let its phones languish on 2.1 for a good while to not have them be competitive with the iPhone, which was AT&T exclusive at the time) that Samsung's rep starts to take a turn.
The I9000 vs Captivate is probably the clearest example of the negative effect a carrier can have on update releases.
The I9000 and Captivate were close enough that it took developers here very little time (days maybe? weeks at most...) to begin running I9000 releases on the Captivate. However, it took on the order of nine months from the I9000's GB release before the Captivate officially received Gingerbread.
Similarly, Samsung has only been slightly behind other tablet vendors in Honeycomb updates for the Tab 10.1, mainly due to being the first vendor to include a custom skin - but "behind" has usually been at worst 1-2 months of delay.
Similarly, the I9100 is scheduled to receive ICS in March and Sammy seems on track with that. However, the I777 (AT&T variant) probably won't see official ICS until 2013...
For the 7.0 Plus - for the developers the Tab does have, I think polishing the current HC releases is the top priority. Honestly, ICS offers far less compared to HC than it does compared to GB, and right now, there's some major work to be done on the 7.0 Plus thanks to Samsung being asshats with regards to AR6000 driver source code.
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Official GB. If I were still on Froyo, then I'd be quite upset at Samsung.
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Yep, mine was GB right out of the box! Love this little device!
Mines has 3.2 with honeycomb. Not sure what version that is.
HTC announced on Facebook that a whole slew of their VZW phones are getting ICS, including the TB and DI2. Maybe this will push Sammy to update our neglected Charges?
We have more good news related to Android 4.0, Ice Cream Sandwich, and can confirm that upgrades are planned for Verizon Wireless customers with the HTC Rhyme, HTC Thunderbolt, and DROID Incredible 2 by HTC, as well as the already announced HTC Rezound.
In addition, the HTC Raider is on the list to receive ICS for customers of Rogers and Bell in Canada. Stay tuned for more news on Ice Cream Sandwich releases in the coming weeks.
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Considering the original Galaxy S(which is nearly identical to the Charge) isn't getting ICS, it's almost a sure thing no Samsung phone will be getting it on Verizon. It's mainly due to Sammy wanting to include TW with it. :/
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DirgeExtinction said:
Considering the original Galaxy S(which is nearly identical to the Charge) isn't getting ICS, it's almost a sure thing no Samsung phone will be getting it on Verizon. It's mainly due to Sammy wanting to include TW with it. :/
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You're correct but US Cellular is releasing the Charge under the name "Aviator" soon. Meaning, Samsung must update the software to at least ICS on the Aviator otherwise it would look really bad on them. If it is anything like it was with the Mesmerize and Fascinate, then the software should be interchangeable between phones without too much work. We'll see though.
DroidBlaze said:
You're correct but US Cellular is releasing the Charge under the name "Aviator" soon. Meaning, Samsung must update the software to at least ICS on the Aviator otherwise it would look really bad on them. If it is anything like it was with the Mesmerize and Fascinate, then the software should be interchangeable between phones without too much work. We'll see though.
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So assume that if it is the case with Aviator where they released ICS for this phone, we could just dump and port the OS to the Charge?
This does imply they use the same ril?
I'm not sure since LTE, a relativity new tech among carriers but
depending on the freqs U.S. Cellular uses there could be large differences.
Although i'm sure just having a optimized version of ICS for the hardware would be a great help in a port.