so hearing the rumors of a new nexus coming with ice cream does that mean us current nexus s users especially the 4g won't get the ice cream update? id like to think the phone will be supported for awhile yet?
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so hearing the rumors of a new nexus coming with ice cream does that mean us current nexus s users especially the 4g won't get the ice cream update? id like to think the phone will be supported for awhile yet?
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Of course our beloved phone will get the latest updates, at least for 18 months after the release. Nexus One already has the Gingerbread update, why wouldn't we get Ice cream Sandwich?
You can sleep tight, our Nexus S will continue to be supported for quite some time
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Of course our beloved phone will get the latest updates, at least for 18 months after the release. Nexus One already has the Gingerbread update, why wouldn't we get Ice cream Sandwich?
You can sleep tight, our Nexus S will continue to be supported for quite some time
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mostly because i heard you will need a dual core to run it and our phones do not have that.
that's typical marketing bull ****. They said the same thing about gingerbread and my HTC CDMA hero is running it faster than the original 1.6.
Google never said that any newer version of android will need dual core. This is just what all the manufacturers would like you to believe so you buy into the hype and spend money for a new phone.
I bet you, all Nexus line phones will get ice cream sandwich before the SDK is even posted.
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that's typical marketing bull ****. They said the same thing about gingerbread and my HTC CDMA hero is running it faster than the original 1.6.
Google never said that any newer version of android will need dual core. This is just what all the manufacturers would like you to believe so you buy into the hype and spend money for a new phone.
I bet you, all Nexus line phones will get ice cream sandwich before the SDK is even posted.
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good to know!
fixxxer2008 said:
so hearing the rumors of a new nexus coming with ice cream does that mean us current nexus s users especially the 4g won't get the ice cream update? id like to think the phone will be supported for awhile yet?
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Google has been courting both HTC and LG for the next Nexus device. I posted a link to HTC's candidate on another thread. I know a lot of people will be disappointed if we dont get it but the NS4G is only weeks old the device itself is going on 6 months ...ours is just a refresh with a 4G radio. That being said i still think most 1ghz processor/512mb + devices should see the update. Eventhough at launch it wasnt the best speced device available. (A lot of the reason N1 users didnt jump ship for it and the reason we dont have the following of the N1 imo.)But all the reports from Google IO/CNET say its to bridge the gap between handsets and tabs. I know it stings but our device is dated already I'm not saying its a lack luster device but...It's not like the N1 which is still comparable to a majority of high end handsets available. The Nexus S just didn't make the evolutionary jump as far as the N1 did IMO. But time will tell I guess.
ICS info...
http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=20062119&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-266
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I will upgrade regardless. The Nexus S is an excellent device, but I could use more RAM.
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Seems like this article is saying there will be a new google device with each android release. Honestly this frustrates me.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...h-new-Ice-Cream-Android-operating-system.html
Edit: I could have sworn I posted this in the general section. Please move if needed.
lovely... Nexus 3 here we go...
NicholasQ said:
Seems like this article is saying there will be a new google device with each android release. Honestly this frustrates me.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...h-new-Ice-Cream-Android-operating-system.html
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Actually this makes sense. I read another article recently that made it a good case for Honeycomb coming to phones. When the N1 launched, it launched with 2.1 then was the first to get 2.2. We launched with 2.3 and will most likely be the first to get 2.4 so when the updates after that come around it will be about a year from the launch of our phone so it'll be about time for a new Nexus.
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Actually this makes sense. I read another article recently that made it a good case for Honeycomb coming to phones. When the N1 launched, it launched with 2.1 then was the first to get 2.2. We launched with 2.3 and will most likely be the first to get 2.4 so when the updates after that come around it will be about a year from the launch of our phone so it'll be about time for a new Nexus.
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You think it will be a year? I'm not so sure though. What exactly is 2.4? Ice cream? Because this article says there will be a new device with ice cream. I also read somewhere that ice cream is projected for this summer. So that would mean a new "nexus" this summer.....?
They haven't even ironed out the bugs with gingerbread and they are planning to release something new with 2.4? I love this phone but its pretty galling that here its 2 months after release and we still don't have browser or reboot prob fixed.
On a side note, I'm thinking that it might be an LG phone if Google is really doing the round robin thing with nexus manufacturers. I doubt nexus will be a Motorola phone until they ditch that locked bootloader.
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Well everybody should be excited to hear that android 3.1 is upon us.
The next version of Google's Android operating system, codenamed Ice Cream Sandwich, will converge the formerly disparate phone and tablet versions of the OS, Google announced at its I/O keynote today. Ice Cream Sandwich will maintain a single UI across all form factors and will allow developers to create applications for both kinds of devices in one motion. It will follow the rollout of Android 3.1 to the Motorola Xoom tablet and Google TV.
Google says the Ice Cream Sandwich version of Android will "all be open source," including APIs for face-tracking and other new features. Developers will be able to account for all form factors within this same version of the OS, and Google will be adding a lot of UIs to accommodate Android devices of all shapes and sizes.
The announcement of Ice Cream Sandwich followed news of Android 3.1, which carries desirable features like resizable widgets in the application launcher. Android 3.1's trip over to Google TV will also carry with it the Android Marketplace and the usability of USB devices. At the keynote, Hugo Barra, director of Android product management, demoed the use of an XBox 360 controller with an Android game.
No official launch date has yet been announced for Ice Cream Sandwich, but Android 3.1 will be available to compatible devices as of today.
Oh ya one more thing, T-Mobile, AT&T and Verizon announced that it will be updating all devices to the new version of android until their 18 month birthday. So yes the mytouch will get Ice Cream Sandwich!!!!!!!!
Ice cream sandwich...
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....Oh ya one more thing, T-Mobile, AT&T and Verizon announced that it will be updating all devices to the new version if android until their 18 month birthday. So yes the mytouch will get Ice Cream Sandwich!!!!!!!!
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You mean untill the devices 18 month birthday? Hope so.
WoW... That is Great News!! I want an ice cream sandwich!!
I wonder how ice cream mysense will look or if it will resemble the doubleshot instead w/ 3d ui.
Actually the keynote said that new devices from here on out would be supported for 18 months... but Ice Cream Sandwhich CM would probably work on our phones.
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Cant wait
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Actually the keynote said that new devices from here on out would be supported for 18 months... but Ice Cream Sandwhich CM would probably work on our phones.
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So this device came out around novemeberish so we'll stop seeing "official" support around mid 2012ish. Well that's good to know at least, not really worried since we have XDA for the roms and other things.
Ice cream sandwich will have hardware exceleration right? Correct me if I'm wrong!
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cant wait this is gunna be so dope
Looks interesting
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So this device came out around novemeberish so we'll stop seeing "official" support around mid 2012ish. Well that's good to know at least, not really worried since we have XDA for the roms and other things.
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Unfortunately, as I believe someone else has already mentioned that is for devices moving forward and I would imagine will not apply to our phones. They have not even really set any guidelines as to how they will even go about ensuring updates for devices, it's just a group of carriers and device manufacturers that have said they will attempt to follow through on this promise. I'm hopeful, but there is still the same issue of custom UIs, which require the manufacturer / carrier to update their code, and I think we all know how well that has worked out so far.
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Unfortunately, as I believe someone else has already mentioned that is for devices moving forward and I would imagine will not apply to our phones. They have not even really set any guidelines as to how they will even go about ensuring updates for devices, it's just a group of carriers and device manufacturers that have said they will attempt to follow through on this promise. I'm hopeful, but there is still the same issue of custom UIs, which require the manufacturer / carrier to update their code, and I think we all know how well that has worked out so far.
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that's why we have the development forum we've all been enjoying a better iteration of gingerbread than tmobile/HTC/whoever could ever throw at us for 6 months or more
Ice Cream Sandwich looks promising!
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i think they should just drop the sandwich and call it Ice Cream!
though i do love ice cream sandwich..
gd6noob said:
i think they should just drop the sandwich and call it Ice Cream!
though i do love ice cream sandwich..
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Logo would look too much like Froyo...
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Unfortunately, as I believe someone else has already mentioned that is for devices moving forward and I would imagine will not apply to our phones. They have not even really set any guidelines as to how they will even go about ensuring updates for devices, it's just a group of carriers and device manufacturers that have said they will attempt to follow through on this promise. I'm hopeful, but there is still the same issue of custom UIs, which require the manufacturer / carrier to update their code, and I think we all know how well that has worked out so far.
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I agree, thankfully we have great devs!
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I hope something good comes out of this
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Yessss honeycomb for phones I doubt it will be official for this.phone since google recommends dual core for honeycomb, and this is pretty much honeycomb, but better
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Anyone else think that Ice Cream will make the NS seem outdated and slow compared to the newer phones of HTC like the DHD, Incredible S and Desire S which have better processors and more ram?
Thinking of actually getting an htc again because of this lol Given the choice would you trade for one of the newer htc phones because of superior hardware alone?
Have fun waiting months for a update to it and using sense for ice cream
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Anyone else think that Ice Cream will make the NS seem outdated and slow compared to the newer phones of HTC like the DHD, Incredible S and Desire S which have better processors and more ram?
Thinking of actually getting an htc again because of this lol Given the choice would you trade for one of the newer htc phones because of superior hardware alone?
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They do have more ram but the processor on the nexus s is way better than the snapdragon on these devices you mentioned.
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how so?
I'm having some difficulties running fruit ninja with wifi on and syncing in the background. Everything just slows down. Same when running music in the background and playing fruit ninja at the same time. Beginning to not like this phone
Running SuperAOSP overclocked to 1300 on demand
kingofthebraves said:
Anyone else think that Ice Cream will make the NS seem outdated and slow compared to the newer phones of HTC like the DHD, Incredible S and Desire S which have better processors and more ram?
Thinking of actually getting an htc again because of this lol Given the choice would you trade for one of the newer htc phones because of superior hardware alone?
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Phone is running great for me, i assume you are talking abotu ice cream sandwhch, which is gonna merge honeycombe and gingerbread?
If anything it will make me love my phone even more!
bringonblink said:
Phone is running great for me, i assume you are talking abotu ice cream sandwhch, which is gonna merge honeycombe and gingerbread?
If anything it will make me love my phone even more!
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You think a phone without hardware and softkey buttons would be easy to use? I'm a bit of a skeptic. Always enjoyed having to press something at the front to check for notifications.
damn, I'm still undecided if I'm gonna keep the NS or get the dhd or IS. Would you guys do it if you could?
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You think a phone without hardware and softkey buttons would be easy to use? I'm a bit of a skeptic. Always enjoyed having to press something at the front to check for notifications.
damn, I'm still undecided if I'm gonna keep the NS or get the dhd or IS. Would you guys do it if you could?
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I'm using honeycomb right now and I love the screen keys. Don't judge it until you try it.
Its like, physical keyboard vs on screen keyboard.
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Anyone else think that Ice Cream will make the NS seem outdated and slow compared to the newer phones of HTC like the DHD, Incredible S and Desire S which have better processors and more ram?
Thinking of actually getting an htc again because of this lol Given the choice would you trade for one of the newer htc phones because of superior hardware alone?
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I guess, you were actually attracted by those HTC devices because of the hardware
However, most of us here in Nexus S community, we choose Nexus S because it is pure google android.
And so, we're able to create greater and greater kernel and rom.
Yes! DHD and IS with 768 ram is awesome!
BUT! please be remind that it drain battery very much as you tend to run more apps in background with such more free memory.
I think so far 512mb is sufficient as it is able to kill background empty apps automatically when ram is low.
You mention that you play ninja while wifi on and music playing, it will lack.
I have a few suggestion for you
1st, Get ANDMemory from the market, Run it at TOP SPEED optimization at auto.
(Or extreme if you want)
2, You can try Trinity Kernel 1.44, it will gives you more power
3, You can try to use less widget as they drain memory+battery.
Anything, you can just PM me and I am more than happy to help
Just for you info,
I run Fruit Ninja THD version (Not the normal version) with Chain Fire 3D, with 3G connection going on. No lack, smooth like butter
Ice Cream Sandwich wont make us outdate
We, Nexus S, as the google phone, will to get Ice Cream Sandwich OTA update once it roll out.
If you on HTC devices, Best of luck Look at what happen recently to HTC Desire? haha. What a joke!
window7 said:
Ice Cream Sandwich wont make us outdate
We, Nexus S, as the google phone, will to get Ice Cream Sandwich OTA update once it roll out.
If you on HTC devices, Best of luck Look at what happen recently to HTC Desire? haha. What a joke!
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They're still getting the OTA. But the general idea is that, we as true "Nexus" users don't like relying on manufacturers to do their part by releasing a OTA of the next Android version.
We like our phones:
1. Unbloated
2. New Android OS the week its announced.
3. Easy to unlock bootloader
And I honestly think those three factors are significant selling points in terms to the hardcore Android user. We can't fight specs, they get better and better everyday. However, we could fight on the battlefield in terms of software.
Hardware changes everyday and becomes better.
Software changes every couple of months and as Nexus users, we're guaranteed to get the updates asap without waiting 6+ months for the next update.
Smartphones have a life span of about 6 months these days. If you're lucky.
Unless you're content with the older software and hardware. But at the rate hardware is changing and the progression of software its hard to keep up to date without shelling out a bunch of cash every 6 months.
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They're still getting the OTA. But the general idea is that, we as true "Nexus" users don't like relying on manufacturers to do their part by releasing a OTA of the next Android version.
We like our phones:
1. Unbloated
2. New Android OS the week its announced.
3. Easy to unlock bootloader
And I honestly think those three factors are significant selling points in terms to the hardcore Android user. We can't fight specs, they get better and better everyday. However, we could fight on the battlefield in terms of software.
Hardware changes everyday and becomes better.
Software changes every couple of months and as Nexus users, we're guaranteed to get the updates asap without waiting 6+ months for the next update.
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I truly agree what you said! +10chars
1. Unbloated
2. New Android OS the week its announced.
3. Easy to unlock bootloader
For the WIN!!
And we can even lock the bootloader back to claim warranty
the latest nexus s will not be obsolete. heck, look at how relevant the nexus one has been even after the nexus s has been out. ppl still use the n1 as their daily device.
p00kienrayray said:
the latest nexus s will not be obsolete. heck, look at how relevant the nexus one has been even after the nexus s has been out. ppl still use the n1 as their daily device.
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Yup. Kinda like how the G1 survived forever, and I think the G1 is still pretty strong today. Not as strong as how it was one or two yearsa ago (maybe I'm wrong because I dont follow the G1 forums anymore) but its dev community made the phone for what it is. The developer community and the "community" using that particular phone makes the phone.. well.. THE PHONE!
The only thing obsolete are these new phones coming out with Android 2.2 still. Gingerbread (2.3) has been out since late last year (December). It's now July 16, 2011.. six months later. How many phones have gotten Gingerbread officially? That's right only less than ten devices. Who's obsolete now?
csmall said:
Smartphones have a life span of about 6 months these days. If you're lucky.
Unless you're content with the older software and hardware. But at the rate hardware is changing and the progression of software its hard to keep up to date without shelling out a bunch of cash every 6 months.
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What a stupid ass statement. 6 months? LOL
Yeah.. they start reaching eol in about 6 months if you want to stay current/latest greatest. What's the nexus s at? Around 6? And I'm already considering dual (or more) core phones with better specs etc... in the very near future. Sure I could keep the nexus s for another 2 years, but I wont. Maybe you will.
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csmall said:
Yeah.. they start reaching eol in about 6 months if you want to stay current/latest greatest. What's the nexus s at? Around 6? And I'm already considering dual (or more) core phones with better specs etc... in the very near future. Sure I could keep the nexus s for another 2 years, but I wont. Maybe you will.
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It's more of an Android problem. The current Nexus S isn't being maxed out at what's possible. The software always lags the hardware. All Android has had over the last year are devices with better hardware yet that hasn't really made a lick of difference in performance.
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It's more of an Android problem. The current Nexus S isn't being maxed out at what's possible. The software always lags the hardware. All Android has had over the last year are devices with better hardware yet that hasn't really made a lick of difference in performance.
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That's exactly the point! Looking back at each version of Android, For SGS, 2.2 and 2.3 have really significant imporvement!
Ice cream sandwhich will be hardware accelarated so i would think it will be much smoother an they said it doesnt matter how old ur phone is u will be able to run it so wait an see
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What for?
Ice Cream Sandwich of course!
Release date is Q4 this year from Google.
Anyone know if it will work on our G2x's? It is 'supposed' to run on 'all' platforms!
Let the discussion begin!
DB
We still waiting for a finished gingerbread
I dont even see ice cream sandwich in my future with this phone
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Bored, are we? Why speculate on something that may or may not see the light of day for the G2x - I doubt the phone will still be in use when Android 10000.9 hits.
Gingerbread just hit and its not even a final release. Lets get GB 100% before we start *****ing and complaining about it not being able to boil water and pleasure the hamsters.
...on another note, I still await the day Android has half the media codex as Windows Mobile. I miss CorePlayer. These crappy media players for Android are a real let down.
Im actually pretty sure that Icecream sandwich will come to our phone through CyanogenMod 8. CM7 was supported on this phone pretty much from the get go and I doubt they would drop support so quickly.
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Im actually pretty sure that Icecream sandwich will come to our phone through CyanogenMod 8. CM7 was supported on this phone pretty much from the get go and I doubt they would drop support so quickly.
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I am sure! I have GB running, and it seems to be running well. No problems installing, no other problems found so far.
Wish I could Skype with the cameras, but that is about all of my annoyances. Very happy with the phone, very happy with the GB OS. There maybe an update that makes it even better, but still...... ICS seems to be in our future!
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dabajan said:
I am sure! I have GB running, and it seems to be running well. No problems installing, no other problems found so far.
Wish I could Skype with the cameras, but that is about all of my annoyances. Very happy with the phone, very happy with the GB OS. There maybe an update that makes it even better, but still...... ICS seems to be in our future!
DB
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Dude, they haven't even released an official version of the Gingerbread and you're thinking of ICS? Let's see how the Gingerbread will go down and then maybe think about ICS.
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We have such little ram, I can't imagine it would be a pleasant experience.
You don't wanna know where this was sent from.
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We have such little ram, I can't imagine it would be a pleasant experience.
You don't wanna know where this was sent from.
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yep, I'm always thinking about what a complete waste this phone really is. Released with froyo, no dual core support drivers are crap and when/if we do ever get a fully functional gingerbread it will be at the end of its cycle and never really get its dual core support. Lg purposely gimped it with 512mb ram. A real shame. I fully expect to not ever see an official ICS release. All these dual cores being released with gingerbread ram requirements are going to be put to waste.
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After this am sticking to the nexus line unless LG makes it then ile run away to samsung or Htc
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yep, I'm always thinking about what a complete waste this phone really is. Released with froyo, no dual core support drivers are crap and when/if we do ever get a fully functional gingerbread it will be at the end of its cycle and never really get its dual core support. Lg purposely gimped it with 512mb ram. A real shame. I fully expect to not ever see an official ICS release. All these dual cores being released with gingerbread ram requirements are going to be put to waste.
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I honestly think 512mb of ram isn't a requirement for ICS. If that's the case then the Nexus S and Nexus One (which both have 512mb of ram) will be left in the past and I don't think Google is ready to stop yet. I foresee at least one more major update for the Nexus S (ICS) and then maybe Google will have more strict requirements. I think Google is more big on software rather than hardware. As for the G2x receiving ICS officially that will most likely not happen, especially since the G2x didn't make the expected sales LG were going for. Remember majority equals priority for these big name company's and majority don't own a G2x. Majority switched to the Sensation or whatever even exchange they can get. This will be my first and last LG phone unless the next line of Nexus is with LG (I hope its either HTC or Samsung for Super Amoled screen).
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i talked to a guy today, who said he overheard someone on an airplane bound for zimbabwe, that he heard from his girlfriend in argentina that ice cream sandwhich would be out by end of sept. for the g2x. woohoo!!!!!!!!!!!
I dunno where you get your info from, but they are wrong! I was told by Santa Clause, who heard it from the Easter Bunny, who won the info in a bet with a leprechaun that was running away from a unicorn while chasing the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, that Ice Cream Sandwich won't be available on the G2X until at least winter.
I ate an ice cream sandwich today...way better than gingerbread.
Would the Nexus S 4G get ICS at the same time the non 4G version of the NS get ICS? Is there much of a difference from either versions that would delay the NS4G getting Icecream sandwich?
We're not fortune tellers, but the NS4G is the only device to officially have 2.3.5.
No one knows the rollout schedule for ICS. But you can assume that all the Nexus S variants will get ICS eventually. Most likely they will release ICS for the Nexus S variants close to the same time.
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We're not fortune tellers, but the NS4G is the only device to officially have 2.3.5.
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That doesn't really have any bearing on ICS. 2.3.5 was mainly to fix some issues with the 4G Nexus S, so the others aren't receiving it for what most say are extremely minor issues otherwise.
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That doesn't really have any bearing on ICS. 2.3.5 was mainly to fix some issues with the 4G Nexus S, so the others aren't receiving it for what most say are extremely minor issues otherwise.
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So there's not a whole lot of differences between the two variant phone that would delay ICS to the 4G version? Between the two phones the only difference is the wimax chip in the 4G version?
YES the Nexus-S 4G will get Android 4.0 "Ice Cream", we will be the second phone to get it behind the Nexus-Three obviously. I would expect it anywhere from two weeks or two months later, after the Nexus-Three launch, but we will get the official update first before any other phone. Now the gods here at XDA might be able to help us out, and get an official build on the N-S sooner, time will tell.
But high end phones like the EVO-3D and Galaxy S2, will get "Ice Cream" after the Nexus-S, I can say that much.
using old binaries as soon as one of them has it you can just make a sorta working on for the other
one would hope so, just to save face at least from tech blogs laughing at them fragmenting the market or whatever they do