You think Ice Cream Sandwich will make the NS obsolete? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Anyone else think that Ice Cream will make the NS seem outdated and slow compared to the newer phones of HTC like the DHD, Incredible S and Desire S which have better processors and more ram?
Thinking of actually getting an htc again because of this lol Given the choice would you trade for one of the newer htc phones because of superior hardware alone?

Have fun waiting months for a update to it and using sense for ice cream
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kingofthebraves said:
Anyone else think that Ice Cream will make the NS seem outdated and slow compared to the newer phones of HTC like the DHD, Incredible S and Desire S which have better processors and more ram?
Thinking of actually getting an htc again because of this lol Given the choice would you trade for one of the newer htc phones because of superior hardware alone?
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They do have more ram but the processor on the nexus s is way better than the snapdragon on these devices you mentioned.
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how so?
I'm having some difficulties running fruit ninja with wifi on and syncing in the background. Everything just slows down. Same when running music in the background and playing fruit ninja at the same time. Beginning to not like this phone
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kingofthebraves said:
Anyone else think that Ice Cream will make the NS seem outdated and slow compared to the newer phones of HTC like the DHD, Incredible S and Desire S which have better processors and more ram?
Thinking of actually getting an htc again because of this lol Given the choice would you trade for one of the newer htc phones because of superior hardware alone?
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Phone is running great for me, i assume you are talking abotu ice cream sandwhch, which is gonna merge honeycombe and gingerbread?
If anything it will make me love my phone even more!

bringonblink said:
Phone is running great for me, i assume you are talking abotu ice cream sandwhch, which is gonna merge honeycombe and gingerbread?
If anything it will make me love my phone even more!
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You think a phone without hardware and softkey buttons would be easy to use? I'm a bit of a skeptic. Always enjoyed having to press something at the front to check for notifications.
damn, I'm still undecided if I'm gonna keep the NS or get the dhd or IS. Would you guys do it if you could?

kingofthebraves said:
You think a phone without hardware and softkey buttons would be easy to use? I'm a bit of a skeptic. Always enjoyed having to press something at the front to check for notifications.
damn, I'm still undecided if I'm gonna keep the NS or get the dhd or IS. Would you guys do it if you could?
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I'm using honeycomb right now and I love the screen keys. Don't judge it until you try it.
Its like, physical keyboard vs on screen keyboard.
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kingofthebraves said:
Anyone else think that Ice Cream will make the NS seem outdated and slow compared to the newer phones of HTC like the DHD, Incredible S and Desire S which have better processors and more ram?
Thinking of actually getting an htc again because of this lol Given the choice would you trade for one of the newer htc phones because of superior hardware alone?
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I guess, you were actually attracted by those HTC devices because of the hardware
However, most of us here in Nexus S community, we choose Nexus S because it is pure google android.
And so, we're able to create greater and greater kernel and rom.
Yes! DHD and IS with 768 ram is awesome!
BUT! please be remind that it drain battery very much as you tend to run more apps in background with such more free memory.
I think so far 512mb is sufficient as it is able to kill background empty apps automatically when ram is low.
You mention that you play ninja while wifi on and music playing, it will lack.
I have a few suggestion for you
1st, Get ANDMemory from the market, Run it at TOP SPEED optimization at auto.
(Or extreme if you want)
2, You can try Trinity Kernel 1.44, it will gives you more power
3, You can try to use less widget as they drain memory+battery.
Anything, you can just PM me and I am more than happy to help
Just for you info,
I run Fruit Ninja THD version (Not the normal version) with Chain Fire 3D, with 3G connection going on. No lack, smooth like butter

Ice Cream Sandwich wont make us outdate
We, Nexus S, as the google phone, will to get Ice Cream Sandwich OTA update once it roll out.
If you on HTC devices, Best of luck Look at what happen recently to HTC Desire? haha. What a joke!

window7 said:
Ice Cream Sandwich wont make us outdate
We, Nexus S, as the google phone, will to get Ice Cream Sandwich OTA update once it roll out.
If you on HTC devices, Best of luck Look at what happen recently to HTC Desire? haha. What a joke!
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They're still getting the OTA. But the general idea is that, we as true "Nexus" users don't like relying on manufacturers to do their part by releasing a OTA of the next Android version.
We like our phones:
1. Unbloated
2. New Android OS the week its announced.
3. Easy to unlock bootloader
And I honestly think those three factors are significant selling points in terms to the hardcore Android user. We can't fight specs, they get better and better everyday. However, we could fight on the battlefield in terms of software.
Hardware changes everyday and becomes better.
Software changes every couple of months and as Nexus users, we're guaranteed to get the updates asap without waiting 6+ months for the next update.

Smartphones have a life span of about 6 months these days. If you're lucky.
Unless you're content with the older software and hardware. But at the rate hardware is changing and the progression of software its hard to keep up to date without shelling out a bunch of cash every 6 months.
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zephiK said:
They're still getting the OTA. But the general idea is that, we as true "Nexus" users don't like relying on manufacturers to do their part by releasing a OTA of the next Android version.
We like our phones:
1. Unbloated
2. New Android OS the week its announced.
3. Easy to unlock bootloader
And I honestly think those three factors are significant selling points in terms to the hardcore Android user. We can't fight specs, they get better and better everyday. However, we could fight on the battlefield in terms of software.
Hardware changes everyday and becomes better.
Software changes every couple of months and as Nexus users, we're guaranteed to get the updates asap without waiting 6+ months for the next update.
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I truly agree what you said! +10chars
1. Unbloated
2. New Android OS the week its announced.
3. Easy to unlock bootloader
For the WIN!!

And we can even lock the bootloader back to claim warranty

the latest nexus s will not be obsolete. heck, look at how relevant the nexus one has been even after the nexus s has been out. ppl still use the n1 as their daily device.

p00kienrayray said:
the latest nexus s will not be obsolete. heck, look at how relevant the nexus one has been even after the nexus s has been out. ppl still use the n1 as their daily device.
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Yup. Kinda like how the G1 survived forever, and I think the G1 is still pretty strong today. Not as strong as how it was one or two yearsa ago (maybe I'm wrong because I dont follow the G1 forums anymore) but its dev community made the phone for what it is. The developer community and the "community" using that particular phone makes the phone.. well.. THE PHONE!
The only thing obsolete are these new phones coming out with Android 2.2 still. Gingerbread (2.3) has been out since late last year (December). It's now July 16, 2011.. six months later. How many phones have gotten Gingerbread officially? That's right only less than ten devices. Who's obsolete now?

csmall said:
Smartphones have a life span of about 6 months these days. If you're lucky.
Unless you're content with the older software and hardware. But at the rate hardware is changing and the progression of software its hard to keep up to date without shelling out a bunch of cash every 6 months.
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What a stupid ass statement. 6 months? LOL

Yeah.. they start reaching eol in about 6 months if you want to stay current/latest greatest. What's the nexus s at? Around 6? And I'm already considering dual (or more) core phones with better specs etc... in the very near future. Sure I could keep the nexus s for another 2 years, but I wont. Maybe you will.
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csmall said:
Yeah.. they start reaching eol in about 6 months if you want to stay current/latest greatest. What's the nexus s at? Around 6? And I'm already considering dual (or more) core phones with better specs etc... in the very near future. Sure I could keep the nexus s for another 2 years, but I wont. Maybe you will.
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It's more of an Android problem. The current Nexus S isn't being maxed out at what's possible. The software always lags the hardware. All Android has had over the last year are devices with better hardware yet that hasn't really made a lick of difference in performance.

meetagrawal said:
It's more of an Android problem. The current Nexus S isn't being maxed out at what's possible. The software always lags the hardware. All Android has had over the last year are devices with better hardware yet that hasn't really made a lick of difference in performance.
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That's exactly the point! Looking back at each version of Android, For SGS, 2.2 and 2.3 have really significant imporvement!

Ice cream sandwhich will be hardware accelarated so i would think it will be much smoother an they said it doesnt matter how old ur phone is u will be able to run it so wait an see
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ice cream?

so hearing the rumors of a new nexus coming with ice cream does that mean us current nexus s users especially the 4g won't get the ice cream update? id like to think the phone will be supported for awhile yet?
fixxxer2008 said:
so hearing the rumors of a new nexus coming with ice cream does that mean us current nexus s users especially the 4g won't get the ice cream update? id like to think the phone will be supported for awhile yet?
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Of course our beloved phone will get the latest updates, at least for 18 months after the release. Nexus One already has the Gingerbread update, why wouldn't we get Ice cream Sandwich?
You can sleep tight, our Nexus S will continue to be supported for quite some time
treUse said:
Of course our beloved phone will get the latest updates, at least for 18 months after the release. Nexus One already has the Gingerbread update, why wouldn't we get Ice cream Sandwich?
You can sleep tight, our Nexus S will continue to be supported for quite some time
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mostly because i heard you will need a dual core to run it and our phones do not have that.
that's typical marketing bull ****. They said the same thing about gingerbread and my HTC CDMA hero is running it faster than the original 1.6.
Google never said that any newer version of android will need dual core. This is just what all the manufacturers would like you to believe so you buy into the hype and spend money for a new phone.
I bet you, all Nexus line phones will get ice cream sandwich before the SDK is even posted.
obsanity said:
that's typical marketing bull ****. They said the same thing about gingerbread and my HTC CDMA hero is running it faster than the original 1.6.
Google never said that any newer version of android will need dual core. This is just what all the manufacturers would like you to believe so you buy into the hype and spend money for a new phone.
I bet you, all Nexus line phones will get ice cream sandwich before the SDK is even posted.
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good to know!
fixxxer2008 said:
so hearing the rumors of a new nexus coming with ice cream does that mean us current nexus s users especially the 4g won't get the ice cream update? id like to think the phone will be supported for awhile yet?
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Google has been courting both HTC and LG for the next Nexus device. I posted a link to HTC's candidate on another thread. I know a lot of people will be disappointed if we dont get it but the NS4G is only weeks old the device itself is going on 6 months ...ours is just a refresh with a 4G radio. That being said i still think most 1ghz processor/512mb + devices should see the update. Eventhough at launch it wasnt the best speced device available. (A lot of the reason N1 users didnt jump ship for it and the reason we dont have the following of the N1 imo.)But all the reports from Google IO/CNET say its to bridge the gap between handsets and tabs. I know it stings but our device is dated already I'm not saying its a lack luster device but...It's not like the N1 which is still comparable to a majority of high end handsets available. The Nexus S just didn't make the evolutionary jump as far as the N1 did IMO. But time will tell I guess.
ICS info...
http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=20062119&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-266
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I will upgrade regardless. The Nexus S is an excellent device, but I could use more RAM.
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So now we wait.....

What for?
Ice Cream Sandwich of course!
Release date is Q4 this year from Google.
Anyone know if it will work on our G2x's? It is 'supposed' to run on 'all' platforms!
Let the discussion begin!
DB
We still waiting for a finished gingerbread
I dont even see ice cream sandwich in my future with this phone
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Bored, are we? Why speculate on something that may or may not see the light of day for the G2x - I doubt the phone will still be in use when Android 10000.9 hits.
Gingerbread just hit and its not even a final release. Lets get GB 100% before we start *****ing and complaining about it not being able to boil water and pleasure the hamsters.
...on another note, I still await the day Android has half the media codex as Windows Mobile. I miss CorePlayer. These crappy media players for Android are a real let down.
Im actually pretty sure that Icecream sandwich will come to our phone through CyanogenMod 8. CM7 was supported on this phone pretty much from the get go and I doubt they would drop support so quickly.
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Im actually pretty sure that Icecream sandwich will come to our phone through CyanogenMod 8. CM7 was supported on this phone pretty much from the get go and I doubt they would drop support so quickly.
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I am sure! I have GB running, and it seems to be running well. No problems installing, no other problems found so far.
Wish I could Skype with the cameras, but that is about all of my annoyances. Very happy with the phone, very happy with the GB OS. There maybe an update that makes it even better, but still...... ICS seems to be in our future!
DB
dabajan said:
I am sure! I have GB running, and it seems to be running well. No problems installing, no other problems found so far.
Wish I could Skype with the cameras, but that is about all of my annoyances. Very happy with the phone, very happy with the GB OS. There maybe an update that makes it even better, but still...... ICS seems to be in our future!
DB
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Dude, they haven't even released an official version of the Gingerbread and you're thinking of ICS? Let's see how the Gingerbread will go down and then maybe think about ICS.
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We have such little ram, I can't imagine it would be a pleasant experience.
You don't wanna know where this was sent from.
mmapcpro said:
We have such little ram, I can't imagine it would be a pleasant experience.
You don't wanna know where this was sent from.
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yep, I'm always thinking about what a complete waste this phone really is. Released with froyo, no dual core support drivers are crap and when/if we do ever get a fully functional gingerbread it will be at the end of its cycle and never really get its dual core support. Lg purposely gimped it with 512mb ram. A real shame. I fully expect to not ever see an official ICS release. All these dual cores being released with gingerbread ram requirements are going to be put to waste.
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After this am sticking to the nexus line unless LG makes it then ile run away to samsung or Htc
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mr mystery said:
yep, I'm always thinking about what a complete waste this phone really is. Released with froyo, no dual core support drivers are crap and when/if we do ever get a fully functional gingerbread it will be at the end of its cycle and never really get its dual core support. Lg purposely gimped it with 512mb ram. A real shame. I fully expect to not ever see an official ICS release. All these dual cores being released with gingerbread ram requirements are going to be put to waste.
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I honestly think 512mb of ram isn't a requirement for ICS. If that's the case then the Nexus S and Nexus One (which both have 512mb of ram) will be left in the past and I don't think Google is ready to stop yet. I foresee at least one more major update for the Nexus S (ICS) and then maybe Google will have more strict requirements. I think Google is more big on software rather than hardware. As for the G2x receiving ICS officially that will most likely not happen, especially since the G2x didn't make the expected sales LG were going for. Remember majority equals priority for these big name company's and majority don't own a G2x. Majority switched to the Sensation or whatever even exchange they can get. This will be my first and last LG phone unless the next line of Nexus is with LG (I hope its either HTC or Samsung for Super Amoled screen).
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i talked to a guy today, who said he overheard someone on an airplane bound for zimbabwe, that he heard from his girlfriend in argentina that ice cream sandwhich would be out by end of sept. for the g2x. woohoo!!!!!!!!!!!
I dunno where you get your info from, but they are wrong! I was told by Santa Clause, who heard it from the Easter Bunny, who won the info in a bet with a leprechaun that was running away from a unicorn while chasing the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, that Ice Cream Sandwich won't be available on the G2X until at least winter.
I ate an ice cream sandwich today...way better than gingerbread.

So many people jumping ship.

I post very rarely, cause I am a very capable leech and can use the search button. In this case I feel like the g2x isn't getting enough love. Yes, in all likelihood we will not be getting official ICS support, but we will get CM9. Even though the 2 cores wont be completely utilized, the tegra2 will probably be faster than that qualcomm SoC. Anyone I know that has moved to the sensation has stated the g2x is a faster device. Anyways, I am using a Cherry Pick cm7 nightly from... that other site, with faux's kernel and decided to give that V6 supercharger a try. It is buttery smooth, no APN problems, no BSOD, battery life under heavy use is incredible. I have used Weapon, White's Miui, EB, Axura, and CM7.1. Take your pick, they are all amazing. We have some awesome developers and I sincerely appreciate what you've done with this widely underrated handset. I will now retreat back into my hole. Might be fun just to have a thread not so negative ya know!
I know I might be jumping the ship. I'm on MIUI with faux 4.3 UV kernel and I love this phone. Everything is fast, everything works. However as far as future proof the only reason I am thinking of switching is because of the support. The dev section for the g2x is dying. We have 2 or 3 ROMS that are actually good and get updated frequently. Have you looked at the sensation dev section? There are about 8 active threads. The mytouch 4G(my old phone) is much older than this phone and still has a more active dev section. Its disappointing.
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I agree. Seems as though imo lg and nvidia are the reason. I may be wrong but from what I understand the devs just have a hard time with the drivers they are provided.
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deadlocked007 said:
Ayyyy my EVO 3D is now synchronous dual core and at 1.5ghz normal and 1.8 oc -_- Beat that
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Higher processor speed =/= better performance.
That's not how CPUs work.
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I get it, its not as exciting. I had the g1 while it development was peaked. We still got a device that is gonna be future proof long enough to get to the kal-el powered phones. Which is when I will probably think it will be worth upgrading. Remember the software has not yet caught up to this hyper powered hardware. Most of the development so far has gone to getting the operating system to a point where they can start optimizing it. Shadow Gun doesn't even start to flex the power of this chipset. Well, that is my ignorant impression of the android situation.
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I know I'm just saying but we've been able to overclock the gpu too and right now our neocore nemamark etc. scores are high as hell lol get it.... But yeah dont hate and in real world performance its silky smooth. That's what she said xD
Oh and I hope you guys get that devs support you need gl with that
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Hey, I'm not hating, I'm just sayin.'
Primer65 said:
We have some awesome developers and I sincerely appreciate what you've done with this widely underrated handset.
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+1
I'm really grateful for the work the devs have done fixing up this phone. I hope people will be patient with them in the next few months. We don't want to lose any more devs. This handset had potential.
You people kill me. How many roms do you intend on running on your phone? You can only run one unless you have dual boot. You talk about the devs abandoning g2x or not enough development. Well what do you want to see that hasent been done? There are nightlies out everyday. Somebody must be developing something. Here's what you do, pick a rom, any rom and stick with it.
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Some more roms are about to start back up. If LG is telling the truth then we will get leaked drivers soon. Btw look up the history of the HTC Droid Eris we got no support from Verizon or HTC the reason I'll never own a another HTC device this phone has updated faster with promise of more updates unlike that phone was killed before it got started
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lanlee212 said:
Some more roms are about to start back up. If LG is telling the truth then we will get leaked drivers soon. Btw look up the history of the HTC Droid Eris we got no support from Verizon or HTC the reason I'll never own a another HTC device this phone has updated faster with promise of more updates unlike that phone was killed before it got started
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That's not a fair comparison. HTC has the best track record of updates by a LARGE margin. You're comparing the Eris... Which has very bad hardware. But look HTC's record, they updated the two year old Incredible to GB... Almost every 1ghz or higher HTC has GB. Maybe even all of them if I'm not mistaken. So as for updates, I'd go with HTC. I just dislike HTC's hardware, their phones always deal with stupid defects like different screens, eMMC issues, dust under the screen, and just abnormal build quality issues.
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That's not a fair comparison. HTC has the best track record of updates by a LARGE margin. You're comparing the Eris... Which has very bad hardware. But look HTC's record, they updated the two year old Incredible to GB... Almost every 1ghz or higher HTC has GB. Maybe even all of them if I'm not mistaken. So as for updates, I'd go with HTC. I just dislike HTC's hardware, their phones always deal with stupid defects like different screens, eMMC issues, dust under the screen, and just abnormal build quality issues.
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It was the second Android on Verizon. They could let us with foyo and then dropped us they did that phone wrong. It had bad dialer lag that foyo would helped. It was a crap phone.
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That's not a fair comparison. HTC has the best track record of updates by a LARGE margin. You're comparing the Eris... Which has very bad hardware. But look HTC's record, they updated the two year old Incredible to GB... Almost every 1ghz or higher HTC has GB. Maybe even all of them if I'm not mistaken. So as for updates, I'd go with HTC. I just dislike HTC's hardware, their phones always deal with stupid defects like different screens, eMMC issues, dust under the screen, and just abnormal build quality issues.
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Very bad speaker quality I might add also, tho I still loved the heck out of my ol' g1,mt4g.
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lanlee212 said:
Some more roms are about to start back up. If LG is telling the truth then we will get leaked drivers soon.
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What makes you say that? They backpedaled a bit on the no ICS statement but only so far as to say they were still testing phones for compatibility, which basically means nothing.
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Well we also have an (un)official 2.3.4 from a G2x variant working on our phones. Once we start having several different models being updated, then we'll all start having bits and pieces to play with.
This is why HTC phones typically have lots of development because they release TONS of phones and they can pull bits and pieces together to better other devices. Once LG starts pumping out more "similar" phones, we'll start to get more and more missing pieces to get it working.
If not the devs will improvise such as they did with the A2DP driver on AOSP roms.
At this point the G2x on CM7 is pretty much near perfect. Battery life seems great, everything works as it should, GPS is almost instant. I have no complaints. We also have several roms currently. Remember that not all the G2x roms are just posted here at XDA
The G2x is a sexy phone. It is still a beast and is faster then most newer phones out there today. It may even play games faster then the Galaxy Nexus... who knows. But you have to know we'll get ICS. Either from the CM team or LG or both. I'd really like to see this phone with ICS and how well it performs against the Galaxy Nexus.
The O2x/G2x/O3D are LG's flagship models. Moving forward, LG just can not NOT upgrade at least some of their phones to ICS because that would be suicide. The G2x is a little more then 6months old. I'd say that we WILL get it but might be mid-2012 because you KNOW they'll release a stock ICS phone or two before upgrading existing handsets but I would expect this from most carriers.
Also the next Android release is typically buggy the first few builds while Google fixes it. The Nexus One and Nexus S both had new versions of Android but it wasn't released to other devices until the second or third revision. The Nexus S came out this time last year and the Nexus One wasn't officially updated until late January or February. Then other phones started to follow suite once a stable version was released.
So unless Google is doing something radically different then before, the Galaxy Nexus will hold ICS to itself for several months before any other device will see it (officially). So unless you are moving to the Galaxy Nexus, no other available phone has any benefit over the G2x at this point.
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I'm really grateful for the work the devs have done fixing up this phone. I hope people will be patient with them in the next few months. We don't want to lose any more devs. This handset had potential.
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keep up the great work devs....and remember children will act like children. Do not let the negative kids chase you off. Most of us appreciate the hard work.
player911 said:
Well we also have an (un)official 2.3.4 from a G2x variant working on our phones. Once we start having several different models being updated, then we'll all start having bits and pieces to play with.
This is why HTC phones typically have lots of development because they release TONS of phones and they can pull bits and pieces together to better other devices. Once LG starts pumping out more "similar" phones, we'll start to get more and more missing pieces to get it working.
If not the devs will improvise such as they did with the A2DP driver on AOSP roms.
At this point the G2x on CM7 is pretty much near perfect. Battery life seems great, everything works as it should, GPS is almost instant. I have no complaints. We also have several roms currently. Remember that not all the G2x roms are just posted here at XDA
The G2x is a sexy phone. It is still a beast and is faster then most newer phones out there today. It may even play games faster then the Galaxy Nexus... who knows. But you have to know we'll get ICS. Either from the CM team or LG or both. I'd really like to see this phone with ICS and how well it performs against the Galaxy Nexus.
The O2x/G2x/O3D are LG's flagship models. Moving forward, LG just can not NOT upgrade at least some of their phones to ICS because that would be suicide. The G2x is a little more then 6months old. I'd say that we WILL get it but might be mid-2012 because you KNOW they'll release a stock ICS phone or two before upgrading existing handsets but I would expect this from most carriers.
Also the next Android release is typically buggy the first few builds while Google fixes it. The Nexus One and Nexus S both had new versions of Android but it wasn't released to other devices until the second or third revision. The Nexus S came out this time last year and the Nexus One wasn't officially updated until late January or February. Then other phones started to follow suite once a stable version was released.
So unless Google is doing something radically different then before, the Galaxy Nexus will hold ICS to itself for several months before any other device will see it (officially). So unless you are moving to the Galaxy Nexus, no other available phone has any benefit over the G2x at this point.
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Very well said.
You know I've never understood why "we only have 3 or so really good roms" is a bad thing. Really, what more do we need? We have CM7 for the AOSP crowd, MIUI for the iPhone lookalikers, and Weapon for stock lovers. Throw in Ultimate for 2.2 and Eaglesblood for minimalism and I really don't see what we're missing out on.
More != better.
LordButtersI said:
You know I've never understood why "we only have 3 or so really good roms" is a bad thing. Really, what more do we need? ... More != better.
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Agreed, how often do most people change ROMs anyway? (I'm not talking about nightlies or new versions, but about swapping between say CM7 and MIUI.) I'd rather have a handful of well-developed projects than a dozen or so ones that meander along without ever really completing.
Thanks as well to the devs - loving the work!
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deadlocked007 said:
Ayyyy my EVO 3D is now synchronous dual core and at 1.5ghz normal and 1.8 oc -_- Beat that
My unbranded GS2 Miui Exnoys 1.5Ghz OC is pushing 6000 quadrant beat that
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op is right, I am on 182 + Faux CM + v6 charger @ Balance 3, oced @ 1.2 for daily use, smooth like butter. Only problem with Google navigation doesn't auto rotate.

[Q] With ICS OTA will we loose everything?

Hi all,
After ICS OTA upgrade, will I have to reconfigure and reinstall all the apps?? Also, what about the media data?
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It dosen't matter. Just backup with Titanium Backup and restore when it comes.
ElMango said:
Hi all,
After ICS OTA upgrade, will I have to reconfigure and reinstall all the apps?? Also, what about the media data?
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You'll want to wait for a rooted version of the OTA anyway. It'll be out hours after the source is released. Then you can just use your favorite backup app to get your stuff back.
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Do we know approximately when the ICS is set to come. Since I got the 3D I haven't really kept up with Nexus news but I'm looking to come back to the flagship.
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Samfirmware stated on twitter two days ago that it was close.
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Don't see why it would take Google sooooo long to release the OTA ? I mean, The community has had it built for Weeks. I guess I'm just a bit too impatient and don't really feel like rooting my phone.
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I'm the same. I've rooted by all the ICS ROM's still have bugs. I'd already have a Galaxy Nexus if they did not delay and delay then have volume bugs! If they released all the drivers from day one, we'd have a million decent custom ROM's...
the nexus s is supposed to be an android flagship phone. Its built with vanilla android so its the first and easiest phone to update, yet for weeks now people are walking around with 4.0 on their galaxy nexus and nexus s users are still left in the dark. say what you will about apple but when an update comes out all compatible devices receive the update that day. obviously im not saying every android should get this update in a timely manner, but a phone by google made for this situation certainly should
I have a question when they said that nexus s should receive ice cream sandwich within " weeks" after galaxy nexus release. Do you guys think the clock has started or are did they mean release in the united states?
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fightingroost12 said:
the nexus s is supposed to be an android flagship phone. Its built with vanilla android so its the first and easiest phone to update, yet for weeks now people are walking around with 4.0 on their galaxy nexus and nexus s users are still left in the dark.
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Yeah, you may want to recall how us Nexus One users were treated with Gingerbread when the NS came out. ICS was probably developed primarily on the GN, so NS development slips on the totem pole. At least you are getting official ICS...
Rod3 said:
Yeah, you may want to recall how us Nexus One users were treated with Gingerbread when the NS came out. ICS was probably developed primarily on the GN, so NS development slips on the totem pole. At least you are getting official ICS...
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yea your right, im very happy just to be on gingerbread (anyone with an x10 or intercept will agree with me) and i wouldnt even mind waiting for the update, its mostly the lack of any information from google thats killing me
hamiltus said:
Don't see why it would take Google sooooo long to release the OTA ? I mean, The community has had it built for Weeks. I guess I'm just a bit too impatient and don't really feel like rooting my phone.
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Because unlike the Community, Google has certain standards it must meet before releasing an OTA. I mean no respect towards the community but no company could ever release partially working builds.
fightingroost12 said:
the nexus s is supposed to be an android flagship phone. Its built with vanilla android so its the first and easiest phone to update, yet for weeks now people are walking around with 4.0 on their galaxy nexus and nexus s users are still left in the dark. say what you will about apple but when an update comes out all compatible devices receive the update that day. obviously im not saying every android should get this update in a timely manner, but a phone by google made for this situation certainly should
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The Nexus S will get a ICS update LOOONNNGGGG before any other phone will and ICS was built for the Galaxy Nexus so THAT was the first and easiest to develop for. The Nexus S is next.
I don't really care the Nexus S gets the update before other phones, I just want it asap.
I'd gladly have every compatible phone receive ICS tomorrow as long as I got it on my NS.
And, much as I don't like it; the Apple comparisons are true. Apple do release new OS available for everyone to download on the same day their new device featuring that OS is launched.
People say that it would be ridiculous to expect updates until the GN has been out a while, but why? Google should have made the next update available on the day they announced ICS.
Corvidd said:
I don't really care the Nexus S gets the update before other phones, I just want it asap.
I'd gladly have every compatible phone receive ICS tomorrow as long as I got it on my NS.
And, much as I don't like it; the Apple comparisons are true. Apple do release new OS available for everyone to download on the same day their new device featuring that OS is launched.
People say that it would be ridiculous to expect updates until the GN has been out a while, but why? Google should have made the next update available on the day they announced ICS.
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Apple also restricts new features to older phones to encourage people to upgrade. Just look at Siri as a fine example, it's *only* available on the 4s even though it's been proven that it will run fine on the 4. Similar constraints can be found with each model upgrade.
When ICS comes out for the nexus S, it will be fully functional with no neutering of any feature. so how does one "encourage" people to upgrade? you delay the update to crank in some early sales.
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Apple also restricts new features to older phones to encourage people to upgrade. Just look at Siri as a fine example, it's *only* available on the 4s even though it's been proven that it will run fine on the 4. Similar constraints can be found with each model upgrade.
When ICS comes out for the nexus S, it will be fully functional with no neutering of any feature. so how does one "encourage" people to upgrade? you delay the update to crank in some early sales.
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all because thats true it doesnt make the other point invalid. When a new iphone comes out, all iphones (and ipod touches mind you) get the update that day.
fightingroost12 said:
all because thats true it doesnt make the other point invalid. When a new iphone comes out, all iphones (and ipod touches mind you) get the update that day.
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Does the iPod second generation have IOS 5? What about the original iPhone?
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Does the iPod second generation have IOS 5? What about the original iPhone?
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is the nexus one getting ICS? how about the G1?
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is the nexus one getting ICS? how about the G1?
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Point, but this is due to hardware limitations. Siri for example will run fine on older devices. also if I know the Xda, there will be a ROM available
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Point, but this is due to hardware limitations. Siri for example will run fine on older devices. also if I know the Xda, there will be a ROM available
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of course there will be, there already are roms available now for the g1. the original iphone obviously has the same problem the g1 has, hardware limitations. When 4.0 came out the iphone 3gs was laggy and almost unusable until apple released a second update to fix the mess. But were losing sight of the point, when an OS is released by apple all phones (fine all compatible phones) get it that day. Sure it doesnt have all the features as the newest iphones, and by not all the features i mean ONE feature as in siri, but they get the update at least. What have we received since the galaxy nexus was released? And i honestly dont even care enough to keep talking about it, but when ever people hear about apple they always have to but in with "YEA BUT APPLE SUCKS CAUSE ____" which isnt the point, i was making a comparison.
like i said before all because one statement is true, it doesnt make the other statement false.

Best Phones for Testing APKs?

We need to buy about 2 phones for testing some custom android apps we've built.
Does anyone have suggestions on what the best phones for testing would be?
I was thinking something with HTC sense on it, and something with stock android on it. Both need to be able to s-off and root easily.
erm... the google dev phones (nexus) ?? Personally I use galaxy nexus most for this kinda thing
For any kind of software testing, you need to know how it will function on both the latest and greatest devices, as well as the oldest hardware you intend to support.
I'd think for the price of two top-tier 2012 phones, you could buy 1 top of the line current phone, one from last year, and one from 2 years ago. Possibly also include Sense, Touchwiz and vanilla android.
Something running GB and something running ICS/JB. Many phones are still on GB so a used device running GB would be useful to test on.
Test it on emulator first?
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Test it on emulator first?
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Yes for sure it's the first thing to do,but not always if it works on emulator it will work on specific phone
Nexus one and galaxy nexus. Then you've got gingerbread and jellybean covered
If you need a newer phone for testing , the Galaxy Nexus is an obvious choice .
If you need a older phone ( old hardware ) to test yous apps , have a look at Nexus 1 or HTC Desire , it can run flawlessly 2.2 , 2.3 and 4.0.4 . I have a Desire on ICS ( BCM ) so I can tell .
willpower102 said:
We need to buy about 2 phones for testing some custom android apps we've built.
Does anyone have suggestions on what the best phones for testing would be?
I was thinking something with HTC sense on it, and something with stock android on it. Both need to be able to s-off and root easily.
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HD2? ROMs range from Android 2.1-4.1 (AOSP, AOKP, CM), Sense 2.0-3.5 (one discontinued Sense 4 alpha), TouchWiz + GB, Xperia Arc GB, MIUI etc. It's also got similar specs to a low-range phone nowadays so that would be a good choice I think. In addition, a One X probably.
HTC One X?!
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It seems it is indeed no contest there.
Does the Galaxy Nexus come with Sense by default? (It's been a while since I've looked into these. Last Android phone I owned was a droid bionic and before that the htc hero.)
We definitely are going to support gingerbread, so we'll need a little bit of an older phone too. I'm sure breaking it up like that into 3 or so phones is ok, as long as they fall under budget.
And yeah, the dev tests with emulators, but I'm QA on this project so I get to play with them real-world once he's done and find more bugs.
Nexus S and a Galaxy Nexus,
Will do the job well:thumbup:
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willpower102 said:
It seems it is indeed no contest there.
Does the Galaxy Nexus come with Sense by default? (It's been a while since I've looked into these. Last Android phone I owned was a droid bionic and before that the htc hero.)
We definitely are going to support gingerbread, so we'll need a little bit of an older phone too. I'm sure breaking it up like that into 3 or so phones is ok, as long as they fall under budget.
And yeah, the dev tests with emulators, but I'm QA on this project so I get to play with them real-world once he's done and find more bugs.
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GNex is a Nexus phone, so why would it come with Sense?
Anyway, the best choice is still the HD2 IMO. You can test it on all versions of Android from 2.1-4.1 and it's incredibly cheap, with specs which are not too bad (1GHz Snapdragon with 576MB RAM) for the price. If you can get the app to run smoothly on the HD2 the likelihood is that it will run on any newer phone.
IMHO you have yo use a stock device.. nexus as all the docs suggest. Custom ROMs have additions substitutions and tweaks that in a dev sense are not baseline. Although the differences are minimal or should be. Better to play safe. So nexus s and galaxy nexus.. Google provide stock ROMs for these in dev device downloads.
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Noted. Thanks.
And yeah, that's cool that some of these phones support plenty of roms, but I don't want to be flashing 3 different roms every time the dev iterates a new point (v.2) update. I'd rather have 2-3 phones ready to go. (seems lazy, but I've got a lot of other work to do to
We got a droid (motorola timestamp issues), a Galaxy Nexus, and an hd2. So the hd2 comes stock with windows mobile? This is strange to me.
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We got a droid (motorola timestamp issues), a Galaxy Nexus, and an hd2. So the hd2 comes stock with windows mobile? This is strange to me.
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Well, the hd2 does have a lot of support, but when the top threads in the device specific forum warn of how unstable and beta-ish android development is on this phone, then I'm not really as excited as I was. might end up returning this one.

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