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i am charging my vario IV everyday yesterday when i went to work it was charged i just sent some messages, checked some webpages and was navigating at most 10 min. before i was back home after 8 hours it was already empty! is this normal for this device or is it just mine?
Happened a few times to me too. I suppose it's because the device gets turned on while in the pocket and can't turn off because the screen or buttons are being constantly pressed. So the screen drains the battery. At least that's my theory.
mine is draining extemely fast too
my friend says it could be that I upgraded the rom and didnt hard reset...
does this make sense?
I only experience this during the first 2-3 days when I first got my Touch Pro, the explaination (by my friend) is Touch Pro USB cable we use to charge has capability of cutting off the power supply once the phone is fully charged. As we all know, we need to extensively charge the new phone battery (6-8 hours) to fully activate it. So recommendation was, charge it then fully drain it out by doing whatever u can, and charge it again and so on and so forth. After then, my Touch Pro's battery is quite sustainable for 2-3 days with normal usage (calls, sms, etc...).
And FYI,
Get the "Diamond Tweak", it helps to save power (and able to do alot of tweaking -recommended v0.5.3).
Get the "VJDeviceLock" (the lock & power off feature), just a button away to lock and put your Touch Pro into sleep without a xtra step by pressing the power button.
I have the impression that switching off bluetooth makes quite a difference.
Read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434635
peebee01 said:
I have the impression that switching off bluetooth makes quite a difference.
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I've made a small program that turns bluetooth on when the AC is connected en off when it's disconnected, cause I (almost) only use bluetooth in the car (with an active car-holder).
More info: http://www.kixass.net/bluepower/
littlemao said:
I only experience this during the first 2-3 days when I first got my Touch Pro, the explaination (by my friend) is Touch Pro USB cable we use to charge has capability of cutting off the power supply once the phone is fully charged. As we all know, we need to extensively charge the new phone battery (6-8 hours) to fully activate it. So recommendation was, charge it then fully drain it out by doing whatever u can, and charge it again and so on and so forth. After then, my Touch Pro's battery is quite sustainable for 2-3 days with normal usage (calls, sms, etc...).
And FYI,
Get the "Diamond Tweak", it helps to save power (and able to do alot of tweaking -recommended v0.5.3).
Get the "VJDeviceLock" (the lock & power off feature), just a button away to lock and put your Touch Pro into sleep without a xtra step by pressing the power button.
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i'll give it a try and see if it helps
littlemao said:
I only experience this during the first 2-3 days when I first got my Touch Pro, the explaination (by my friend) is Touch Pro USB cable we use to charge has capability of cutting off the power supply once the phone is fully charged. As we all know, we need to extensively charge the new phone battery (6-8 hours) to fully activate it. So recommendation was, charge it then fully drain it out by doing whatever u can, and charge it again and so on and so forth. After then, my Touch Pro's battery is quite sustainable for 2-3 days with normal usage (calls, sms, etc...).
And FYI,
Get the "Diamond Tweak", it helps to save power (and able to do alot of tweaking -recommended v0.5.3).
Get the "VJDeviceLock" (the lock & power off feature), just a button away to lock and put your Touch Pro into sleep without a xtra step by pressing the power button.
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do you mean by the usb cable the one we use to sync the device? and what about charging with the charger? does it also cut off?
KixAss said:
I've made a small program that turns bluetooth on when the AC is connected en off when it's disconnected, cause I (almost) only use bluetooth in the car (with an active car-holder).
More info: http://www.kixass.net/bluepower/
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nice feature.......thank you
still the same...no changes at all!
2 solutions for you
1: discharge your phone completely then charge ... 2 time or more
2: try charging from an usb not with htc charger (i charge from a solar usb low amp charger it add an 50% of battery time but in 5 hours of chargin time) i'm still testing this but my phone last 2 or 3 days when i charge from solar battery and only oane day when i charge.it from htc charger
charging from the laptop usb won't have the same effect but the battery will last longer (2 days )
melcul said:
2 solutions for you
1: discharge your phone completely then charge ... 2 time or more
2: try charging from an usb not with htc charger (i charge from a solar usb low amp charger it add an 50% of battery time but in 5 hours of chargin time) i'm still testing this but my phone last 2 or 3 days when i charge from solar battery and only oane day when i charge.it from htc charger
charging from the laptop usb won't have the same effect but the battery will last longer (2 days )
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tried this already without success!
Try this, it will force the data connection to close after 1 minute, instead of the
default 10min. Should save some battery.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\
CacheTime
change the decimal value from the default 600 to 60
aquasesh said:
Try this, it will force the data connection to close after 1 minute, instead of the
default 10min. Should save some battery.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\
CacheTime
change the decimal value from the default 600 to 60
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my data connection is disabled by Nodata and i don't use it at all
littlemao said:
So recommendation was, charge it then fully drain it out by doing whatever u can, and charge it again and so on and so forth. After then, my Touch Pro's battery is quite sustainable for 2-3 days with normal usage (calls, sms, etc...).
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Yeah, and that makes no sence. Li-Ion and Li-Pol batteries are just oposite to the NiMh/NiCd so this actually will make your battery work less time, in some time, I doupt that you'll buy a new battery after some time .
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Yeah, and that makes no sence. Li-Ion and Li-Pol batteries are just oposite to the NiMh/NiCd so this actually will make your battery work less time, in some time, I doupt that you'll buy a new battery after some time .
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that's right didn't notice any changes it's still draining like it did before! i keep saying "i am still waiting for the first htc device that just works out of the box without headache"
What is you're coverage like??
I have 1 day at home (bad reception, and I mean really bad ), and 2 days at my girlfriends place (very good reception) with 40 - 75 min. phone, regular inthawebby and the pushmail thing.
(check you're coverage at the T-mobile website (IE only ) and start complaining to them, searching for access eats battery)
karloe said:
What is you're coverage like??
I have 1 day at home (bad reception, and I mean really bad ), and 2 days at my girlfriends place (very good reception) with 40 - 75 min. phone, regular inthawebby and the pushmail thing.
(check you're coverage at the T-mobile website (IE only ) and start complaining to them, searching for access eats battery)
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Coverage is good here...
I noticed that the charging rate was abysmal when charging from a usb port. So I looked to see if the phone was sleeping while charging. CPU spy says it doesn't (both wall charger and usb port). Is this normal? (i.e. does every android phone do this?). I'm thinking if it was sleeping it might charge faster since it wouldn't be using so much electricity.
UPDATE: Using current widget, I see that the phone is getting ~150-250mA while charging via usb port. I'm pretty sure a usb port puts out about 500mA, which means about 1/2-2/3 of the current is being consumed by the phone not sleeping. No wonder it takes forever for the phone to charge via usb. All my previous phones charged pretty fast via usb.
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I noticed that the charging rate was abysmal when charging from a usb port. So I looked to see if the phone was sleeping while charging. CPU spy says it doesn't (both wall charger and usb port). Is this normal? (i.e. does every android phone do this?). I'm thinking if it was sleeping it might charge faster since it wouldn't be using so much electricity.
UPDATE: Using current widget, I see that the phone is getting ~150-250mA while charging via usb port. I'm pretty sure a usb port puts out about 500mA, which means about 1/2-2/3 of the current is being consumed by the phone not sleeping. No wonder it takes forever for the phone to charge via usb. All my previous phones charged pretty fast via usb.
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Hi, Are you using a custom ROM? There is an option in my custom ROM (ARHD 6.7.0) to stay awake while charging, which can be checked/unchecked under Settings -> Develop Option menu.
It depends on the PC. The MAX current is 500mA but might be less, hence some USB disks have an additional USB connector to get more power. Mind you if it's a reasonably new PC it should be 500mA.
The mains charger should have a rating on it, hopefully 1000mA, try that and check in CurrentWidget. Also bear in mind that the charging current will also tail off as it gets close to being fully charged.
Have you ticked un-ticked the box "No Log in Charge" and also ticked "Force Log in Sleep Mode".
If you click on the battery graph in setting does it show the phone Awake 100% or does it have some sleep periods ?
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Are you looking at the figures from the log file or the widget on screen ?
I had a quick look at mine (unfortunately I can't be certain which was mains or USB from PC as the phone was on both randomly.
Anyway max I saw was ~900mA charging the tails off as expected the closer it gets to 100%. Seems to start dropping the charging current 900mA @ ~60%, 150mA @~80% then close to 90% it's dropped to 23mA !!
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I know when I was using CM7 the ROM purposely showed fully charged at 90% to avoid overcharging and destroying the LI-Ion battery. It would continue to charge fully to 100% but at a much reduced rate.
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Hi, Are you using a custom ROM? There is an option in my custom ROM (ARHD 6.7.0) to stay awake while charging, which can be checked/unchecked under Settings -> Develop Option menu.
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Are you sure that's not just to keep the screen on while charging ?
typci said:
I noticed that the charging rate was abysmal when charging from a usb port. So I looked to see if the phone was sleeping while charging. CPU spy says it doesn't (both wall charger and usb port). Is this normal? (i.e. does every android phone do this?). I'm thinking if it was sleeping it might charge faster since it wouldn't be using so much electricity.
UPDATE: Using current widget, I see that the phone is getting ~150-250mA while charging via usb port. I'm pretty sure a usb port puts out about 500mA, which means about 1/2-2/3 of the current is being consumed by the phone not sleeping. No wonder it takes forever for the phone to charge via usb. All my previous phones charged pretty fast via usb.
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You cant get deepsleep while charging, thats based on my experiences, but maybe i am wrong, cause i dont use cpuspy for long time,.
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jyo1 said:
Hi, Are you using a custom ROM? There is an option in my custom ROM (ARHD 6.7.0) to stay awake while charging, which can be checked/unchecked under Settings -> Develop Option menu.
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On stock Europe 3.33 with custom kernal: [Kernel]Sense ICS(v007_r2)OC~1.73GHz/UV/ZRAM/Intellidemand/Power Saving[Jun-13]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216197&highlight=fast+charge
I didn't turn on the force fast charge because I didn't know what it was. Now that I know, I might turn it on.
Also, stay awake while charging is not checked.
gol_n_dal said:
It depends on the PC. The MAX current is 500mA but might be less, hence some USB disks have an additional USB connector to get more power. Mind you if it's a reasonably new PC it should be 500mA.
The mains charger should have a rating on it, hopefully 1000mA, try that and check in CurrentWidget. Also bear in mind that the charging current will also tail off as it gets close to being fully charged.
Have you ticked un-ticked the box "No Log in Charge" and also ticked "Force Log in Sleep Mode".
If you click on the battery graph in setting does it show the phone Awake 100% or does it have some sleep periods ?
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Can't use the mains charger because it is a Hong Kong adapter and I live in main land China (different outlets). Don't recognize "No Log in Charge" and "Force Log in Sleep Mode" so I'm going say I haven't done either.
Also, I became aware of the problem while trying to charge the phone via my Asus Transformer usb port and the usb ports on the computers at the school I teach at. The phone would say charging but would never actually increase the battery percentage. Those both probably have pretty low amperage. However my home pc is fairly new, and charges other phones fast, and charges my sensation at decent speed.
I use cpu spy to check to see if it sleeps. Charging via usb port or wall adapter (non-HTC) cpu spy never shows even 1 second in deep sleep, it just stays at 192 MHz. Unplug the phone and it will go straight into deep sleep no problem. Looking at the History Details for the battery, it has some non-awake(sleep??) periods during charging.
So, do android phones (or specifically the sensation) go into deep sleep while charging? I just need to figure out is this normal or not.
aimcr7 said:
You cant get deepsleep while charging, thats based on my experiences, but maybe i am wrong, cause i dont use cpuspy for long time,.
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Thanks, that is exactly the information I need.
UPDATE: Now that I know my ROM/Kernal doesn't have any problems, I've moved on to testing cables/ports/chargers. Finding huge differences in the charging rate between different cables.
OK on CM10 I just charged from 68% to 100% and the phone was NOT awake during the charging period.
I'll repeat the exercise later on 3.33.401 stock but expect to see the same.
Are you sure it's not one of your apps that's causing the phone to stay awake ?
aimcr7 said:
You cant get deepsleep while charging, thats based on my experiences, but maybe i am wrong, cause i dont use cpuspy for long time,.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using Tapatalk 2
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OK on CM10 I just charged from 68% to 100% and the phone was NOT awake during the charging period.
I'll repeat the exercise later on 3.33.401 stock but expect to see the same.
Are you sure it's not one of your apps that's causing the phone to stay awake ?
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It's not "awake" i was looking at, I was looking at deep sleep. The phone can be "not awake" and at the same time not be in deep sleep. Awake is when the phone is on and doing things, even when the screen is off. Deep sleep is when the phone is hibernating. While charging, the phone is not awake, unless its doing something, however it doesn't go into deep sleep either. It just throttles down the CPU speed to the lowest speed and "idles" so to speak.
Yeah, so I solved my problems. Thanks for the help.
Does anyone know how to fix it? (don't know if it's an issue indeed)
I just wanted that my phone goes to deep sleep as I eventually use Powerskin (1500mah external battery) and it lasts like 8 hours (cpu keeps at 192mhz, doesn't get into deep sleep while charging). So, I'd like to avoid unecessary battery consumption.
Hi dudes I have a big problem with my htc one x, my cell phone doesn't charge anything (the red led dont turn on and the charge dock doesnt get heat) It didn't crashed or something, it was with low battery and I took borrowed his charge dock (I was in his house), but it didn't charge anything, as I said my cell phone wasn't crashed or hitted by nothing, It just stopped charging, what can I do to revive it? Please help mee :crying::crying:
Did u let it fully die? Sometimes power cycling is not a good idea...shooot.. Doing it isn't good period. Let it stay in charger overnite.. What ROM you running ?
Yes the charge fully died, and turned off, I let it in the power plugged last night the whole night charging and nothing happend, It was working well untill I pluged it with my friend's charger, his charger is 5v 800mA, since I plugged it on, it stopped charging, that might damage my phone? I mean all chargers are the same but , seriously that charger could kill my phone? is weird
Not all chargers are the same. Have you tried using your own charger?
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Yeah I tried with 2 diferent chargers but nothing happend, since I plugged in my friend's charger my cell phone doesnt want to charge anything :crying::crying:
What happens when you connect it to a PC? Do you get a connect/disconnect sound at all?
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Nothing happens, the red led is off always, dont even't flashes
How often did you power cycle (let it die completely) the device?
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ummm that's really weird when it happends, I'm always with my phone charged but yesterday I wasn't able to charge up and it ends with the battery charge
That doesn't really answer the question, how often did you let the phone die completely?
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maybe once every 3 weeks or 1 month
Ok. I'd keep trying to charge the phone, but unfortunately this kind of thing does happen with electronic devices from time to time. There's no real way to say exactly what's happened but it's very possible you have a brick.
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the last 2 weeks my cellphone was automically rebooting, the bottons of the cell phone (back,home,and the other) start flashing and automatically rebooting, I don't know If that says something what do you think?
Could he possibly hold down vol and power..for a long time...maybe it could get to boot loader,,,,?
I tried but still dead x_x
Power cycling shouldnt bother a mobile phone battery to be fair, unless it's left in a low state for an extended period of time (8% discharge per month roughly) so it's a bit of a misnomer. Lithium batteries should never be fully discharged but as a safeguard you will find when the battery reaches 0% as displayed on the phone the battery is still more than halfway charged to prevent this kind of thing happening. (Most phones register 0% at 3v but the safety threshold is around 2.2v, absolute battery death is 1.5v. Bare in mind at full capacity a cell is 4.2v so your pretty safe when it gets to 0%)
What is more likely an issue is using a faulty charger, there are dozens of cheap chargers which will trash a battery. It is disgusting what gets through the borders from places like China, these things don't have adequate power regulation or filtering. At best you reduce the phone lifespan, at worst it burns the house down. Never ever use a charger than costs less than $15 as there's a reason, decent components cost money unfortunately..
Now, if the device won't charge (a usb 3 port on a pc is ideal as it provides a stable 5v at 900mA or more if a genuine HTC charger isn't available) or switch on you can try removing the battery (be careful as the HTC screen is delicate and there are special tools you need), there are guides on the net or if your not confident then take it to a service centre and they should replace it for you for a fee.. if you buy a new battery off eBay then don't bother with the high capacity as they're fakes, if HTC could cram extra mA into the same size they would - but it's against the laws of physics to get double capacity.
I'm sorry your phone appears dead. I hope it's just the battery, just be very wary about unbranded docks/chargers as they're evil.
Sent from my HTC One XL using Tapatalk
Check the Charging port and switch the cable
Maybe the charging port is broken.
On the other side maybe the cable is broken did you try charging another divice with it?
The solution may be simpler than you think.
Friends when I plug in my htc one x to my computer, my computer made a sound, but it didn't detected my cell phone (just made a sound when you plug-in any divice), and my cell phone doesn't charge is there any I can do? Or is dead
You might be able to get a jtag repair done.
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Can anyone help and give me tips on how to stop my screen and mobile standby using so much battery,, also im using official moto charger and getting 7 hours until fully charged without any apps running, am i doing something wrong here
Thanks :good:
Mobile Standby is based on cellular signal strength, the better the signal the lower the battery usage, in general.
Screen should be the primary battery user, but you didn't give us a screenshot of your screen on time to make a fair comparison if it's normal or not.
The charge time is messed up though, mine takes less than 2 hours from under 10% to full if left idle, try another cable or charger with 1.2+ amp supply and check the USB port for lint buildup, I have seen excessive pocket lint build up and keep the cable from making a good connection.
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acejavelin said:
Mobile Standby is based on cellular signal strength, the better the signal the lower the battery usage, in general.
Screen should be the primary battery user, but you didn't give us a screenshot of your screen on time to make a fair comparison if it's normal or not.
The charge time is messed up though, mine takes less than 2 hours from under 10% to full if left idle, try another cable or charger with 1.2+ amp supply and check the USB port for lint buildup, I have seen excessive pocket lint build up and keep the cable from making a good connection.
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Thanks for the reply, i dont have a sim card in my phone though i use it strictly on wifi and screen attached
GFlexForever said:
Thanks for the reply, i dont have a sim card in my phone though i use it strictly on wifi and screen attached
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Unfortunately, that screenshot doesn't tell us much because you have been charging partially off and on (statistics are since the last full charge), but I think your statistics are off... they add up to way more than 100% in the first screen shot, but I would expect the screen usage is normal since you are using the device quite a bit. The only way to get the screen to use less power is to turn the brightness down, otherwise that is one is and should be the largest battery user.
And even without a SIM the device will still look for mobile signal, it is capable of making emergency calls and to my knowledge in the stock ROM that cannot be turned off.
Thanks for the reply, sorted the charging time problrem out and lowered the brightness down to 10% and im still getting alot of usage also just to clarify i cant really do anything over the screen consumption?? Thanks :highfive:
New moto G 3rd Gen in the household. Is it not unusual for the shipped charger to struggle to charge at all when screen is full bright and wifi all radios are active? My son reported the phone would not charge at all. eventually went flat and had to use the Vol-DN/Power combo to revive it for him. Seems to be charging fine now with the supplied charged with the handset powered off. I suspect he had overwhelmed the charge by pegging everything full bright and on. Is this about right for this phone?
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New moto G 3rd Gen in the household. Is it not unusual for the shipped charger to struggle to charge at all when screen is full bright and wifi all radios are active? My son reported the phone would not charge at all. eventually went flat and had to use the Vol-DN/Power combo to revive it for him. Seems to be charging fine now with the supplied charged with the handset powered off. I suspect he had overwhelmed the charge by pegging everything full bright and on. Is this about right for this phone?
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Sadly, this isn't unheard of... The charger that comes with these in the box is garbage in some parts of the world, check the rating on it, if it's under 1A/1000ma get a decent aftermarket one rated at 1.5A or better.
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Thanks. Good advice the supplied charger is only 850ma. Will get a more powerful one.
I also wonder if the battery charging has some conditioning login going on in the first few cycles.
Last night I observed this weird behaviour as the phone charges.
-Motorola SPN5512A Phone USB AC Charger Power Supply 5.1V 850mA.
-Phone off.
-Pressing power button intermittently to display battery graphic and charge level.
It charges fine to somewhere over 51% and then begins to discharge rapidly whilst phone is off and charger is connected !!
At this point the screen remains on with charge indicator permanently displayed. Phone is still switched off.
This is a log of how it was charging, with me doing a quick press of power button to read the level.
5:24pm 35%
5:34pm 41%
5:46pm 48%
5:56pm 51%
<- In this period phone which is still powered off, spontaneously begins to discharge
7:20pm 30% screen on and battery icon displayed permanently. Phone is still off though. pulled charger and re inserted @ 7:21pm
7:31pm 36% now charging again with screen going off and the need to press power button to see charge indicator.
7:36pm 39%
7:45pm 44%
7:55pm 50%
8:17pm 62%
8:46pm 79%
9:34pm 95%
9:47pm 97%
10:13pm 100%
Any idea why it would have flipped from charge to discharge?
GFlexForever said:
Thanks for the reply, i dont have a sim card in my phone though i use it strictly on wifi and screen attached
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If you don't have a SIM card, I recommend putting your phone in airplane mode to keep the cell radio off. You can turn WiFi on after enabling airplane mode.
I was just about going to create a thread about it. My battery takes a full night to fully charge even with the phone turned off. What can I do so I can improve it? It is pissing me off seriously.
I've tried 2 different roms android 7 and 9, they have the same issue. While using them tablet seems to use too much power and it's heating element heats up pretty fast. I can limit this by switching geolocation to battery saving mode, but when I turn brightness all the way through, even though it doesn't heat up as much it's just turns off and the only way to turn it on is to disassemble it, plug the battery cord out and then put it back in(also measuring voltage on multimeter between ground of the battery and charging port pin whilst it's charging does the same thing for some reason) also it looses charge when turned off. I have no idea why, I've disconnected every single cable and it still drained battery at the same rate, though I noticed that voltage between battery + and - and battery ground and charging pin even when it's disconnected is lower with charging pin, don't know if it should be this way so I'll just leave it here. Battery drain started happening only after I changed my defective original cable(showed that it's charging the tablet but battery percentage dropped as if it wasn't even connected) to a new one but still using original brick. Any ideas as to what could be happening and what I can check would be much appreciated.
Load the stock rom to troubleshoot.
Possible battery or mobo failure.