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[Q] Odd battery life situation

I've always been reasonably happy with my battery life. If I use it heavily it goes down. If I don't it can stay charged for a couple of days. Within the last week or so that has dramatically changed. All of a sudden it barely makes it through the night from a full charge to 10% or so. It also "seems" that normal use drains it at least twice as fast. Anecdotal but I know something is wrong or different.
I haven't made any changes to my phone for months. I'm running existz kernal for 2.2 and that is the only customization. I did get a bunch of app updates but that always happens. The battery use screen shows the batter is being used for display but over night, it doesn't/shouldn't display much.
Thoughts on how to find what the heck is going on would be appreciated.

Use spare parts app and find out battery stats on partial wake clock usage and sensors usage
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What I would do if I were you is charge to 100%, recalibrate, and take the battery out for about 15 minutes before you put it back in and turn your phone on. I dunno.why this procedure worked for me but that's just a suggestion if you don't wanna flash to stock and back to whatever you're using.

Uninstall updates, then add them back, one at a time.

KMan94 said:
I've always been reasonably happy with my battery life. If I use it heavily it goes down. If I don't it can stay charged for a couple of days. Within the last week or so that has dramatically changed. All of a sudden it barely makes it through the night from a full charge to 10% or so. It also "seems" that normal use drains it at least twice as fast. Anecdotal but I know something is wrong or different.
I haven't made any changes to my phone for months. I'm running existz kernal for 2.2 and that is the only customization. I did get a bunch of app updates but that always happens. The battery use screen shows the batter is being used for display but over night, it doesn't/shouldn't display much.
Thoughts on how to find what the heck is going on would be appreciated.
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I notice dramatically different battery life when I use this procedure to charge my phone known as a bump charge.
1) charge to 100% or as close as your phone will get while it is on.
2) Disconnect charger
3)Turn off phone
4)Re-Connect charger while phone is off
5) Wait until the phone says 100% charged while it is off. You can check the charge by using the volume buttons if the screen is asleep.
6) Unplug charger. (This is important. If you boot your phone with your charger plugged in it can give you inaccurate battery information.)
7) Boot up the phone.

That is really odd but mine has started doing the exact same thing. I have never had battery issues and for the first time today my phone was completely dead within 6 hours, and the past week it seems to hardly make it 12 hours.
I was just assuming it was the launcher I was using but I removed it and it never helped whatsoever.

mrhaley30705 said:
Uninstall updates, then add them back, one at a time.
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I would agree with you on that but... I really have no idea what all got updated and don't know how to find out. the perils of auto-update I suppose.

capocaccia said:
I notice dramatically different battery life when I use this procedure to charge my phone known as a bump charge.
1) charge to 100% or as close as your phone will get while it is on.
2) Disconnect charger
3)Turn off phone
4)Re-Connect charger while phone is off
5) Wait until the phone says 100% charged while it is off. You can check the charge by using the volume buttons if the screen is asleep.
6) Unplug charger. (This is important. If you boot your phone with your charger plugged in it can give you inaccurate battery information.)
7) Boot up the phone.
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I'll give that a try... it made it through last night in pretty good shape though. Confused I am.

Not sure if this helps or not, but here is my experience.
I have two wireless routers in my house. One I keep locked to N-only and the other to G-Only. The N router I have suspected for some time has a weak or flaky radio because I can watch the signal strength fluctuate wildly over a period of 10 seconds or so. I noticed a while back that when my phone is connected to the N router it will kill itself pretty much overnight. When I disable that connection and let it connect to the G router it only loses a couple % over an 8 hour period.
I don't know if it is due to being connected to N, or if my suspected flaky router is causing it to use more power staying locked onto the signal or something of that sort.

[Q] Is my phone dead? :(

1. The phone won't turn on
2. The charging indicator doesn't light up when I try to charge the battery.
3. One of the sensors on the top left turns dim red in color when I connect the charging cable
4. I can't hard reset either
thanks

Did the battery die all the way? Or did you flash a radio without checking the md5? If its a borked radio install say hello to a 500 dollar paper weight if its the battery your gonna have to charge it in another phone cause I'm not sure if cwm 5.0.2.7 has powered off charging
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Yes we need a couple of info first. Also we need every information we can get in the last events before the phone got bricked. Like what did you do? what ROM? What's the status of the phone? Battery?
The more the details the better we could assist you.

Sounds like when my first Mytouch 3g broke, it would turn on the first couple of times going into a bootlope at the HBoot. It also didnt respond to charging or any other battery i tried.

Thanks for the reply strapped. I haven't flashed a radio. I did flash the virtuous infinity rom though. I'm not certain if that affected the radio. I did, however, let my battery die all the way. Do you know why one the sensors on the top left corner turns dim red when I connect the charging cable?

CJ_ said:
Thanks for the reply strapped. I haven't flashed a radio. I did flash the virtuous infinity rom though. I'm not certain if that affected the radio. I did, however, let my battery die all the way. Do you know why one the sensors on the top left corner turns dim red when I connect the charging cable?
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Oh crap the battery die all the way problem
I think your battery is dead.s
Saw dozens of problems like this on the my previous device's forum.
Li Ion batteries have this fuse inside it in which it trips off when the battery gets discharged to a certain voltage. If it does your battery goes into a suicide mode in order to protect the phone.
basically the best thing to take good care of your battery is not let it drain lower than 40% and not fully charge it to 90%.
discharging it too low drains it's lifespan drastically. While charging it too high also drains it's lifespan.
Over-discharging Lithium-ion
Li-ion should never be discharged too low, and there are several safeguards to prevent this from happening. The equipment cuts off when the battery discharges to about 3.0V/cell, stopping the current flow. If the discharge continues to about 2.70V/cell or lower, the battery’s protection circuit puts the battery into a sleep mode. This renders the pack unserviceable and a recharge with most chargers is not possible. To prevent a battery from falling asleep, apply a partial charge before a long storage period.
Battery manufacturers ship batteries with a 40 percent charge. The low charge state reduces aging-related stress while allowing some self-discharge during storage. To minimize the current flow for the protection circuit before the battery is sold, advanced Li-ion packs feature a sleep mode that disables the protection circuit until activated by a brief charge or discharge. Once engaged, the battery remains operational and the on state can no longer be switched back to the standby mode.
Do not recharge lithium-ion if a cell has stayed at or below 1.5V for more than a week. Copper shunts may have formed inside the cells that can lead to a partial or total electrical short. If recharged, the cells might become unstable, causing excessive heat or showing other anomalies. Li-ion packs that have been under stress are more sensitive to mechanical abuse, such as vibration, dropping and exposure to heat.
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maybe you guys should read this.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

Cheers guys. Here's every bit of information I can recollect
A few days ago I created a nandroid backup and formatted my sd card via the PC.
I flashed the latest version of CWM recovery
I flashed the virtuous infinity rom 1.33 alpha v3 and then flashed the 1.35 beta 1 update.
Then i copied some music on to the SD card and installed a couple of apps.... nothing out of the ordinary.
The phone worked fine the last couple of days but I don't remember letting the battery die all the way. I should add that I have a dodgy battery; a couple of months ago my dear girlfriend spilled her drink and beer went in to back of my phone... since then the keyboard doesn't work (some keys work but its basically dead) and the battery has been affected as well since it now only lasts 3-4 hours after a full charge....but this issue can't have caused the problem I'm now having because the dead keyboard and dodgy battery have been around for a few months...
Last night, however, I think I let the battery die all the way and at some point, when I tried to turn it on, the phone vibrated as it does when you hold the power button, however, the screen didn't turn on. Since then, nothing has changed. When I connect the phone to the PC, it makes a couple of "connection" noises but I can't access the SD card or contents.

by saying latest CWM is it the 6.0 touch based CWM by chance?

sorry mate, i meant 5..0.2.7.

That's the CWM I'm using so it's safe. I'm also on latest VI for weeks without problem.
So it all points out to your battery.
Phone vibrating to power button means it's responding perfectly. Not sure about the light on the sensor only htc technician can tell.
But what I can say is if your trackpad button lights out red always then you got a brick on your hand.

Nope the trackpad isn't red so I guess that's a good sign. I've ordered a new battery and should have it later this week. Let's see if that fixes the issue. Will report back. Thanks all!

So, a new battery has arrived, however, it hasn't helped as the phone won't charge (no orange light) or turn on...... Since I live in Australia, I don't know anyone else with this phone. Is there any other way for me to revive my brick of a phone?? Thanks

CJ_ said:
So, a new battery has arrived, however, it hasn't helped as the phone won't charge (no orange light) or turn on...... Since I live in Australia, I don't know anyone else with this phone. Is there any other way for me to revive my brick of a phone?? Thanks
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Get a universal charger for your battery.
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This is a rough situation. Even with my DS I've had situations where nothing would happen when I tried to restart it, in particular when I let the system run all the way down. It is as if the battery needs to have some charge for it to charge more. I have three batteries though (the stock & two Anker 1900's) so when this happens I just swap out the battery with one that I charged in the external charger, and I haven't had any real issues with them long-term. Since you bought a battery, what battery was it, and do you think it was charged when you got it, and do you have an external charger to verify that the charge is solid when you put it back in the phone? Your phone may be completely dead however, but at this point, I don't think anybody on the thread really can tell. This make sense? I don't want to say, "buy a set of Anker 1900's with an external charger" but it was cheap enough vs. the cost of the phone, and the DS does seem to be a good one overall.

Hi All,
So I got an external charger for the battery and it arrived yesterday. I then proceeded to charge the battery and hours later, no luck. The phone still doesn't turn on. When I hit the power button, one of the sensors on the top left turns red slightly, shortly after which the phone vibrates. However, it doesn't turn on.
Where do I go from here?
Thanks

have you tried to disassemble your phone at all? you said liquid was spilled in it, could take time for corrosion to turn up. maybe a little electronic parts cleaner or rubbing alcohol may help out

Nope I haven't tried to disassemble it yet but is that the only option remaining? If yes, I might have to give it a go because this phone is now as useful to me as a brick, in its current state.

[Q] CM10 not charging past 90%

I'm running the 12/28 CM10 nightly, and I'm having an issue with charging my battery. When the phone is on, the battery charges normally to 90%, at which point the LED changes from red to green, indicating full charge. If I leave it plugged in, the phone continues to charge to 100. However, the battery doesn't really charge past 90 because once I begin to use it the charge drops really quickly down to 90. Similarly, if I restart the phone, even if it said 100 before, when it is on again it says 90. I have had this issue with previous CM10 nightlies as well. It is a software issue, because if I turn the phone off and charge it, it charges to 100.
Any ideas on how to fix this? Thanks!

This is a suggestion out of the blue but maybe try recalrubratung your battery

omario8484 said:
This is a suggestion out of the blue but maybe try recalrubratung your battery
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I did to no avail
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A0A said:
I'm running the 12/28 CM10 nightly, and I'm having an issue with charging my battery. When the phone is on, the battery charges normally to 90%, at which point the LED changes from red to green, indicating full charge. If I leave it plugged in, the phone continues to charge to 100. However, the battery doesn't really charge past 90 because once I begin to use it the charge drops really quickly down to 90. Similarly, if I restart the phone, even if it said 100 before, when it is on again it says 90. I have had this issue with previous CM10 nightlies as well. It is a software issue, because if I turn the phone off and charge it, it charges to 100.
Any ideas on how to fix this? Thanks!
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This is the intended bahavior. The type of battery used in phones last longest when they say between 80% and 20% of charged. So your phone will pull the maximum amount of power it can until it hits 90% then reduce power draw to a trickle charge.
The rapid drop is power is often the chip in the battery lying that it is fully charged when it is not. That is why you may see a rapid decline to 90% where your battery drain will go back to normal.
You might also see the phone telling you that it has 15% power then turning off. Upon reboot it will say it's at 0% or 1% that also is the battery trying to protect it self from damage.
This is a simplified explanation of how all phones work these days. The only difference you'll notice is how good the software is designed to lie to you about the power level. If it's good you won't notice these types of anomalies but they are still there.

Have you wiped battery stats?

dc211 said:
This is the intended bahavior. The type of battery used in phones last longest when they say between 80% and 20% of charged. So your phone will pull the maximum amount of power it can until it hits 90% then reduce power draw to a trickle charge.
The rapid drop is power is often the chip in the battery lying that it is fully charged when it is not. That is why you may see a rapid decline to 90% where your battery drain will go back to normal.
You might also see the phone telling you that it has 15% power then turning off. Upon reboot it will say it's at 0% or 1% that also is the battery trying to protect it self from damage.
This is a simplified explanation of how all phones work these days. The only difference you'll notice is how good the software is designed to lie to you about the power level. If it's good you won't notice these types of anomalies but they are still there.
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Thanks for that informative answer. So I take it that means there would be no performance difference between turning my phone off, charging it, and then using it (with it saying 100%) vs leaving it on, charging it to 90% (green LED turns on) and then using it?

Shield battery charging issue?

Anyone having charging issue. I ran my shield battery down when I first got it. Then I plug it in to charger. Its been charging over 8 hours and still not at 100 percent. took it off charge at 80 percent. No way it should take this long. I read on reviews it took like 4 to 5 hours.

evobunny said:
Anyone having charging issue. I ran my shield battery down when I first got it. Then I plug it in to charger. Its been charging over 8 hours and still not at 100 percent. took it off charge at 80 percent. No way it should take this long. I read on reviews it took like 4 to 5 hours.
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You used the charger that it came with? And you're not playing games the entire time it's charging, right?

agrabren said:
You used the charger that it came with? And you're not playing games the entire time it's charging, right?
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yes I use charger that came with it. and it was charging over night when I was sleeping.

That sounds really odd. What does the battery usage say for the device? Was it awake the whole time? Does it think it was charging all night?
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I feel like that has happened on my nexus 7 before. I bet it is an android thing. I would try again and see if it acts up a second time.

agrabren said:
That sounds really odd. What does the battery usage say for the device? Was it awake the whole time? Does it think it was charging all night?
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when I was charging, i close the screen. so it went to sleep. I dont know how you can tell if it think it was charging all night. I went to battery info and its said 13.6 hours on battery. and 48 percent of that was screen usage. rest was on game and apps.

evobunny said:
when I was charging, i close the screen. so it went to sleep. I dont know how you can tell if it think it was charging all night. I went to battery info and its said 13.6 hours on battery. and 48 percent of that was screen usage. rest was on game and apps.
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If you go into the "Battery Info" and touch on the graph area, it'll show you below some bars of time spent on different functions (like charging)

evobunny said:
when I was charging, i close the screen. so it went to sleep. I dont know how you can tell if it think it was charging all night. I went to battery info and its said 13.6 hours on battery. and 48 percent of that was screen usage. rest was on game and apps.
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1. Sometimes the battery indicator on Android can take a while to figure out your battery. It might drop 5 percent in ten minutes then take an hour to drop 5 more.
2. The vent area on my Shield seems warmer than the surrounding plastic even when in sleep for a while, so it may be drawing more power than is charging. Just try turning it off and charging it.

oushidian said:
1. Sometimes the battery indicator on Android can take a while to figure out your battery. It might drop 5 percent in ten minutes then take an hour to drop 5 more.
2. The vent area on my Shield seems warmer than the surrounding plastic even when in sleep for a while, so it may be drawing more power than is charging. Just try turning it off and charging it.
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Which vent area? Front or back? Because batteries do warm up when you charge them, and those are some big batteries (and a full 2 amp charge)

agrabren said:
Which vent area? Front or back?
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The smooth part on the bottom back with the model number, FCC, etc. And it's not when I'm charging but when the lid is closed. If I manually power it down then the warm goes away.

i never recommend running your device down when it comes straight out the box. usually i tell people to just fully charge the device first before running it dry therefore it can register the full battery, personally i would not leave a device connected over night just for the simple fact that it can be one in a million that the device might get screwed over a long period of time.
it be nice to know if the problem is fixed or not and what you did just in case others run into this same problem.

ive had no charging issues yet. batts do tend to get nice and warm tho.
but for what its worth i just noticed that im still getting notification sounds from my Shield even tho the lid is closed. so maybe its some kind of hybrid sleep and if you have some rogue app pulling a ton of CPU cycles & its not going into full sleep so its taking longer to charge?
just some food for thought on your issue

s0me guy said:
ive had no charging issues yet. batts do tend to get nice and warm tho.
but for what its worth i just noticed that im still getting notification sounds from my Shield even tho the lid is closed. so maybe its some kind of hybrid sleep and if you have some rogue app pulling a ton of CPU cycles & its not going into full sleep so its taking longer to charge?
just some food for thought on your issue
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Like most Android devices, the device goes to "sleep". Unless you power it off, it still handles notifications, and it still talks on WiFi. But it should consume very little power.

elitecmdr666 said:
i never recommend running your device down when it comes straight out the box. usually i tell people to just fully charge the device first before running it dry therefore it can register the full battery, personally i would not leave a device connected over night just for the simple fact that it can be one in a million that the device might get screwed over a long period of time.
it be nice to know if the problem is fixed or not and what you did just in case others run into this same problem.
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Modern devices use LiPi or Li-ion batteries, these explode when overcharged (seriously, youtube search overcharge lipo). As a result all devices sold with this kind of battery have charge monitoring tools and will disconnect the battery from the charging circuit when full, also they should then run purely from the mains power when the battery is full rather than running on the battery again (they don't like the repeat connect/disconnect effect that would lead to). End result, can't overcharge it.
The heat on mains power tends to be from the voltage regulator. These devices don't run on 5V power like comes from the charger. They tend to use a combo of switch mode and linear regulators to drop the 5V to 3.3V for the CPU and peripherals (3.3 is most common at any rate). Linear regulators in particular get quite warm. Switch mode regulators don't get so warm but don't give a clean output the CPU will run nicely on, they have the odd drop or spike which would either reset or fry the CPU, so generally what happens is the switch mode reg drops a large chunk of the voltage and then feeds it into a linear reg to drop the rest of the way (*the less voltage a linear reg has to drop the less heat it produces). From 5V to 3.3V it is most likely going to be purely a linear regulator, with the CPU and screen drawing at least 1A of current and a 1.7V drop that would equate to 1.7W of heat produced, not much, but enough that if you were to put your finger on the bare regulator chip it would come away red, hold it there long enough and it would be somewhat like those competitions kids have over who can keep their hand on the hot radiator longest That is the main reason they will get hot.
The batteries in these devices are usually 3.7V, that would need a separate regulator from above, and another regulator would still be needed to go from 3.7 > 3.3. 3.7>3.3 would not get so warm. 5>3.7 would still be warm as above.
Never fully drain a LiPo. Gets too low and you damage the cell ir-repairably. When the device claims it is at 0% charge and shuts off is usually closer to 10-20% charge. But that is still considered too low by some people. General advice if you want to prolong the lifetime of your battery is to turn the device off and charge it when it reports somewhere around 5-10% charge.
Batteries do get warm while charging. But my bet is that the voltage regulators would be far more significant heat producers.

agrabren said:
Like most Android devices, the device goes to "sleep". Unless you power it off, it still handles notifications, and it still talks on WiFi. But it should consume very little power.
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good to know. :good: i didnt think closing the lid was the same as pushing the power button on my phone to turn the screen off.
but the OP's problems still might be "sleep" related.
prime example my SGS3 batt life started to tank after the 1st VZW JB update. it took twice as long to charge & would never "sleep" (cuz of the OS not a app) but since the Tegra 4 is a much higher profile chip it could suck a bit more juice if its not being aloud to fully sleep, for whatever reason.
like you said tho, looking at the battery stats could easily tell us if this is the issue.

SixSixSevenSeven said:
Modern devices use LiPi or Li-ion batteries, these explode when overcharged (seriously, youtube search overcharge lipo). As a result all devices sold with this kind of battery have charge monitoring tools and will disconnect the battery from the charging circuit when full, also they should then run purely from the mains power when the battery is full rather than running on the battery again (they don't like the repeat connect/disconnect effect that would lead to). End result, can't overcharge it.
The heat on mains power tends to be from the voltage regulator. These devices don't run on 5V power like comes from the charger. They tend to use a combo of switch mode and linear regulators to drop the 5V to 3.3V for the CPU and peripherals (3.3 is most common at any rate). Linear regulators in particular get quite warm. Switch mode regulators don't get so warm but don't give a clean output the CPU will run nicely on, they have the odd drop or spike which would either reset or fry the CPU, so generally what happens is the switch mode reg drops a large chunk of the voltage and then feeds it into a linear reg to drop the rest of the way (*the less voltage a linear reg has to drop the less heat it produces). From 5V to 3.3V it is most likely going to be purely a linear regulator, with the CPU and screen drawing at least 1A of current and a 1.7V drop that would equate to 1.7W of heat produced, not much, but enough that if you were to put your finger on the bare regulator chip it would come away red, hold it there long enough and it would be somewhat like those competitions kids have over who can keep their hand on the hot radiator longest That is the main reason they will get hot.
The batteries in these devices are usually 3.7V, that would need a separate regulator from above, and another regulator would still be needed to go from 3.7 > 3.3. 3.7>3.3 would not get so warm. 5>3.7 would still be warm as above.
Never fully drain a LiPo. Gets too low and you damage the cell ir-repairably. When the device claims it is at 0% charge and shuts off is usually closer to 10-20% charge. But that is still considered too low by some people. General advice if you want to prolong the lifetime of your battery is to turn the device off and charge it when it reports somewhere around 5-10% charge.
Batteries do get warm while charging. But my bet is that the voltage regulators would be far more significant heat producers.
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yes while all this your saying is true i still wont risk it. i say this from experience had a note 10.1 and would leave it over night charging and sure enough it ended up screwing up. might of been there was something wrong with the device itself but still. good post on your behalf though :laugh:
but still im paranoid and prefer to just disconnect once its charge it wont hurt

elitecmdr666 said:
yes while all this your saying is true i still wont risk it. i say this from experience had a note 10.1 and would leave it over night charging and sure enough it ended up screwing up. might of been there was something wrong with the device itself but still. good post on your behalf though :laugh:
but still im paranoid and prefer to just disconnect once its charge it wont hurt
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I tend to go into way too much detail sometimes :/
Disconnecting can't harm it at least if that's what you prefer.
As for info source. Quite into electronics and robotics, intact the shield would make a good controller for robotics purposes

well i did my second charge last night. and this time much faster, about 5 hours to 100 percent. guess i dont have a problem after all. dont know what happen the first time.

SixSixSevenSeven said:
I tend to go into way too much detail sometimes :/
Disconnecting can't harm it at least if that's what you prefer.
As for info source. Quite into electronics and robotics, intact the shield would make a good controller for robotics purposes
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no worries lol i tend to get spaced out at times and go into details does not hurt to enlighten people :good:

Battery usage in night time?

Previously I had Huawei with 4.0.3 and in night time (wifi disabled, sync disabled, no apps active) battery dropped about 3 points, but with Moto it's about 10 points.
How much battery uses your Moto in night time?

ksuuk said:
Previously I had Huawei with 4.0.3 and in night time (wifi disabled, sync disabled, no apps active) battery dropped about 3 points, but with Moto it's about 10 points.
How much battery uses your Moto in night time?
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The one of mine used last night more or less the same, around 10% with wifi, no apps running, no data conection, etc. I'm a little bit worried about it, i think it's too much battery drop :/

ksuuk said:
Previously I had Huawei with 4.0.3 and in night time (wifi disabled, sync disabled, no apps active) battery dropped about 3 points, but with Moto it's about 10 points.
How much battery uses your Moto in night time?
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I just go airplane mode and I had a 1% drop over 10 hours overnight.

download BetterBatteryStats or Wakelock Detector and check what eats your battery

fubag said:
I just go airplane mode and I had a 1% drop over 10 hours overnight.
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I'm using Profile Scheduler, but since 4.3 it can't activate aeroplane mode, without rooting and I always forget switch it manually.

I always turn off my data and WiFi and my phone only drops about 4 to 6 percent overnight
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well, my battery has dropped 10% inaproximately 5 hours beeing in airplane mode :/ can someone tell me why?

Ninm said:
well, my battery has dropped 10% inaproximately 5 hours beeing in airplane mode :/ can someone tell me why?
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yes, read my previous post.
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It may have been related to Mediaserver, read - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2570854
I need SkyPe so can't unistall it but I disabled AD -s in SkyPe settings, and see does it help.
Edit: I removed latest SkyPe and installed older version and Mediaserver doesn't eat battery anymore.

It seems to do just fine at nighttime for me.
Nearly 0% drain after a night with airplane mode.
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Tonight, in almos 6 hours my battery has dropped around 4% being in airplane mode. I have installed betterbatterystats and i cannot see anything strange

what used up the 4% that is not strange?

I unplugged my phone at around 3am because I rolled over and noticed the notification led blinking. I was at 100% and cleared the notification. Went back to sleep then got up around 5:30am and looked at my phone. I noticed my battery was down more than I expected so I checked the stats. I was down almost 20% in 2 hours 30 minutes. Android OS was at 60% usage with time on a 2 hours 20 minutes. I had sleep assist turned on during the night and I also keep wifi and data on. I've installed Wakelock Detector to see if it will be able to see what in Android OS is keeping my phone on.

Please take a look at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2583419
Scott

fyi. when you charge your phone, the battery starts discharging once the battery is FULL, NOT when the cable is unplugged. However, the battery % will not drop whilst the phone is plugged in,
Therefore, if you charge your phone fully but don't unplug it for hours, it 'may' appear to discharge faster than normal once you do unplug it. (basically the phone will over present it's true charge level).
If you unplug the phone as soon as its fully charged, however, it will appear to discharge more slowly...

helppme said:
fyi. when you charge your phone, the battery starts discharging once the battery is FULL, NOT when the cable is unplugged. However, the battery % will not drop whilst the phone is plugged in,
Therefore, if you charge your phone fully but don't unplug it for hours, it 'may' appear to discharge faster than normal once you do unplug it. (basically the phone will over present it's true charge level).
If you unplug the phone as soon as its fully charged, however, it will appear to discharge more slowly...
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Lol
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kj2112 said:
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think I must have missed the joke??, or are you wishing me 'Lots of Love' ?
you can test if for yourself if you don't believe me... It protects the battery..
it is very relevant for people who charge their phone over night. The Android battery stats will start the clock ticking from 9am when they unplug their phone, however the battery started discharging 6 hours erlier when he phone was fully charged at 3am... The % then drops much faster than expected as it races to it's 'true' level of charge. This could explain the differences people are seeing in some cases...

helppme said:
think I must have missed the joke??, or are you wishing me 'Lots of Love' ?
you can test if for yourself if you don't believe me... It protects the battery..
it is very relevant for people who charge their phone over night. The Android battery stats will start the clock ticking from 9am when they unplug their phone, however the battery started discharging 6 hours erlier when he phone was fully charged at 3am... The % then drops much faster than expected as it races to it's 'true' level of charge. This could explain the differences people are seeing in some cases...
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actually you are just partially right. the percentage only drops until reaching a trigger level, where it starts to charge again. also in my opinion when the phone is charged and left plugged in it uses the power directly and leaves the battery untouched
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helppme said:
think I must have missed the joke??, or are you wishing me 'Lots of Love' ?
you can test if for yourself if you don't believe me... It protects the battery..
it is very relevant for people who charge their phone over night. The Android battery stats will start the clock ticking from 9am when they unplug their phone, however the battery started discharging 6 hours erlier when he phone was fully charged at 3am... The % then drops much faster than expected as it races to it's 'true' level of charge. This could explain the differences people are seeing in some cases...
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Hogwash.
Lithium batteries don't retain a memory.. You can charge them as often as you want... No matter what percentage your at. And if you leave it plugged in it will keep your battery fully charged with a trickle charge at 100...
I'm not sure what wives tales you've been reading.... But not everything on the Internet is true.... So you know.
I read something else around here lately where a guy was saying basically if you plug in at bedtime, you better wake up after a couple hours and unplug.... Or you'll damage your battery. Lol
Anyway.... Charge how ever you feel you need to.... To each their own. But I guarantee your battery will not drain quicker cause you left it charging all night.... That's simply ridiculous.
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kj2112 said:
Hogwash.
Lithium batteries don't retain a memory.. You can charge them as often as you want... No matter what percentage your at. And if you leave it plugged in it will keep your battery fully charged with a trickle charge at 100...
I'm not sure what wives tales you've been reading.... But not everything on the Internet is true.... So you know.
I read something else around here lately where a guy was saying basically if you plug in at bedtime, you better wake up after a couple hours and unplug.... Or you'll damage your battery. Lol
Anyway.... Charge how ever you feel you need to.... To each their own. But I guarantee your battery will not drain quicker cause you left it charging all night.... That's simply ridiculous.
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its not hogwash, I think maybe you misunderstood me. I'm well aware lithium cells aren't memory cells. In fact, check my post history I posted as much in a thread of someone asking 'how best to first charge their moto G'. So if this is what you thought I meant, fairplay.
However,
Someone clarified above there is a 'threshold' level. however, these phones do not 'trickle charge' it's not a car battery. Charging at full amps when the battery is full would damage it, hence it stops charging, starts to discharge, then at some 'threshold level' will begin charging again, it does not trickle charge..
Also, as a matter of fact a friend of mine is an electrical engineer, does small Linux projects and some work on ARM architecture. I first heard about this behaviour when charging whilst on the XDA S2 forum. We tested the charge in the S2 1650mha battery ourselves and found we could get a variety of charge levels all shown as '100%' on the phone, just by when we unplugged the charger. I'm making an assumption this phone behaves the same, however why would it not?
So, all I would say to anyone on this forum. Just because someone has a lot of posts and thanks and 'knows his stuff' , This guy should take his own advice and not believe everything he reads on the internet...
No offence