Hello,
I am an experienced ROM chef in the CDMA world, I have created kitchens for 4 or 5 CDMA devices and I'm really not new to cooking at all, but I have never had a GSM device.
A friend of mine has asked me to create a kaiser base for him. I have done so, and the ROM works as expected, with one exception: SMS is not functioning.
I have tried 2 different ways of configuring my ROM for his carrier (ATT): using the ConnectionSetup package and allowing it to run at first boot, or including connection provxml straight from ATT's 3.57 kaiser ROM. Both methods give my user a working data connection.
I guess what I am getting at is - what is the trick to SMS on GSM? Keep in mind I have never owned/used a GSM device, and I am looking at this from a kitchen level - I am assuming there has to be some kicker I am unaware of to make SMS work on a GSM network.
I have seen a control panel applet that appears to let the user select GSM or GPRS network for SMS. I have had my user select both and he has been unable to send or recieve on either setting. Again, his data connection is working fine, so my assumption was that if SMS via GSM was not working, he would have been able to use SMS via GPRS. Maybe I am not understanding how SMS works...
I have noticed that on CDMA devices, HTC replaces the MSFT SMS_providers.dll with their own HTC_SMS_Providers.dll. I have not dug in to find out what this is doing, because SMS has always worked fine for me on CDMA. I do not see this same setup in GSM ROMs. I am removing lockstream, but I thought that was common for GSM chefs as well. Lockstream includes smsTrigger.exe, and I do not know what this does, but what would SMS have to do with DRM?
I really hope this makes sense/rings a bell to someone. All my ROM cooking friends work in CDMA land...
What is involved in the process of SMS on GSM?
TIA for any advice.
Hey DCD, it has been a long time. I was in the Titan forum for a long time but now am in the Blackstone phone. Attached is some SMS/MMS settings that I got in the Blackstone (GSM phone) forum and think it might help with getting the right settings possible. Hope it helps.
I dont think cooking for CDMA is any different than GSM, except for adding a few operator dependent packages.
Either way, what SYS are you using? Have you tried with different SYS and see if it is a problem?
Does he has this problem with stock AT&T ROM?
Maybe those questions can help solve the issue.
try dumping stock rom and using those oemdrivers with known good sys/ext and it should work
thanks for your responses-
solved, i am an idiot, i had the following in my cdma sys cleanup package that obviously shouldnt be used for gsm:
; SYS\Phone
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\SIM]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\SimMgr]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Cellular\SimToolkit\LaunchBrowser]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Cellular\SimToolkit\LaunchBrowser\Csd]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Cellular\SimToolkit\LaunchBrowser\Csd]
sorry for wasting your time with my stupidity :/
mods please close/trash this thread
Sometimes a mistake such as that can happen to anyone. I suggest to put some part of this into the kitchen wiki ..
Hey Guys
Really hoping someone could help me out here as I LOVE this phone and do NOT want to return it.....I unlocked an HTC Surround yesterday and was able to pop in my Rogers SIM and start using the phone. However, off the Bat it would not browse. I had to configure rogers APN (rogers-core-appl1.apn) initially. This allowed me to browse ofcourse. Suddenly I noticed I was unable to send MMS or receive them.
However - eventually MY MMS's will get to the receiption although I will get a failed alert, I on the other hand will NOT get any MMS's from senders. All calls are coming in as UNKNOWN CALLER.
I had Rogers do a network refresh on my SIM yet nothing has helped. I also installed the HTC App which updates the correct Carrier Profile settings, yet NOTHING hass worked
These are my only 2 grips with the phone, MMS and CID. Other small quircks (such as wrong time stamp) I can live with...
If any experts have ANY advice - I thank you in advance.
Regards
MMS will not work on unlocked wp7 devices because it's mms settings are confirgured for the locked carrier. There is no setting in the wp7 atm that will let a user change the mms settings. Hopefully microsoft will fix this issue in the next update.
powersquad said:
MMS will not work on unlocked wp7 devices because it's mms settings are confirgured for the locked carrier. There is no setting in the wp7 atm that will let a user change the mms settings. Hopefully microsoft will fix this issue in the next update.
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Thanks for the prompt follow up!
Just an FYI - its half working with the HTC App - I can send, but not receive. Why would MS cripple such a needed setting?!
Any idea as to whats blocking my CID?
DarthVR6 said:
Hey Guys
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I had Rogers do a network refresh on my SIM yet nothing has helped. I also installed the HTC App which updates the correct Carrier Profile settings, yet NOTHING hass worked
.......
Regards
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Ensure your have CLIP (calling line identity presentation) provisioned on your account (In the HLR). I would assume this is what was checked when you called, but it might be worth checking 100%
I once had mine drop off for seemingly no cause. This resulted in every call coming in as 'Unknown Caller'
If this has happened to you, swapping phones would show the same issue.
refer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caller_ID
(CLIP can go by other names)
I'm interested to know the cause of this, if you can post when its fixed.
hmm caller id should work regardless of which network the phone is being used on. CID is all dependent on the network provider you are using.
as for mms setting, I think it's not crippled, ms just didn't have enough time to implement this feature prob.
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hmm caller id should work regardless of which network the phone is being used on. CID is all dependent on the network provider you are using.
as for mms setting, I think it's not crippled, ms just didn't have enough time to implement this feature prob.
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Well I just popped the same SIM into my Desire Z which is also unlocked and CID is working..
I can live without MMS but to not have CID work will be an issue.
Do any of you suspect removing it and adding it will help?
This most likely is a silly q but with the Carriers is there a difference with iPhone CID and non iPhone CID?
DarthVR6 said:
Well I just popped the same SIM into my Desire Z which is also unlocked and CID is working..
I can live without MMS but to not have CID work will be an issue.
Do any of you suspect removing it and adding it will help?
This most likely is a silly q but with the Carriers is there a difference with iPhone CID and non iPhone CID?
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Only 1 setting.
removing and re-adding will have no effect if its working in another handset.
Your phone is getting the 'info', but not displaying it.
Perhaps a hard reset is in order?
-- you can confirm a handset fault by placing in the original SIM and testing CID again
I've done a full restore through settings 3 times, is there another method?
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
DarthVR6 said:
I've done a full restore through settings 3 times, is there another method?
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
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toss the original sim back in it.
If it works its possibly due to the provider (i dont see how tho), or you were correct and its in some way linked (again, i dont know how this would be the case)
If it doesnt work, then something is wrong with the handset.
Im not sure if the hard reset from the menu is the same as resetting via holding down the volume keys (or whatever you do, method is in the FAQ thread stuck to the top of the forums)
Is the menu just wiping your personal data? or refreshing the OS Install?
How did you unlock it?
I'm in Canada as well...I wouldn't mind paying full ticket on a samsung focus and bringing it to Bell(wife can get a good plan with work), or a Dell Venue Pro or HD7 and go with Wind....
mei_liberi_fatali said:
toss the original sim back in it.
If it works its possibly due to the provider (i dont see how tho), or you were correct and its in some way linked (again, i dont know how this would be the case)
If it doesnt work, then something is wrong with the handset.
Im not sure if the hard reset from the menu is the same as resetting via holding down the volume keys (or whatever you do, method is in the FAQ thread stuck to the top of the forums)
Is the menu just wiping your personal data? or refreshing the OS Install?
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I have a colleague at work who also purchased the same phone and has not been able to get call display to work after unlocking it either. He is having the exact same issues - I do not suspect its a defective handset.
Over on the MSN forums - apparently it's caused by ADC which is disabled by default by Telus and it's locking to Telus's config, even if forced. Unfortunately, I need to get into the admin app but the method they provided is not for the HTC Surround
How did you unlock it?
I'm in Canada as well...I wouldn't mind paying full ticket on a samsung focus and bringing it to Bell(wife can get a good plan with work), or a Dell Venue Pro or HD7 and go with Wind....
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Lip - Im not sure if we're allowed to link to external sites here so I'll just recommend u to google unlock htc surround - and u should be able to find the methodd. Or PM me...
DarthVR6 said:
I have a colleague at work who also purchased the same phone and has not been able to get call display to work after unlocking it either. He is having the exact same issues - I do not suspect its a defective handset.
Over on the MSN forums - apparently it's caused by ADC which is disabled by default by Telus and it's locking to Telus's config, even if forced. Unfortunately, I need to get into the admin app but the method they provided is not for the HTC Surround
Lip - Im not sure if we're allowed to link to external sites here so I'll just recommend u to google unlock htc surround - and u should be able to find the methodd. Or PM me...
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Did you pay to unlock it?
Check out a fix here: http://social.answers.microsoft.com...7/thread/7834506f-c60d-4eb6-b04a-9829131922ee
MFG is a hidden admin app on the phone. Here are the steps -- !!! use at your own risk !!!:
Go to the phone app
Dial ##634# and click Send
When prompted for a password type 277634#*#
You should now be at "Factory Menu"
Choose "Engineer Menu"
Choose "Other Setting"
Verify that "Set ADC" is set to Enable
From the "Other Setting" page, choose "Set network profile"
You should now be on the "Set network profile" page and in the bottom half of the window you should see a list of *.xml files. These appear to be the network configuration files.
Look at the filenames for the config files and take your best guess at which one to choose for your provider. I'm on AT&T and I fixed the MMS problem by choosing "_PROV_ATT_US_310_410.xml"
After you choose that *.xml profile, your MMS should be working.
DarthVR6 said:
Hey Guys
Really hoping someone could help me out here as I LOVE this phone and do NOT want to return it.....I unlocked an HTC Surround yesterday and was able to pop in my Rogers SIM and start using the phone. However, off the Bat it would not browse. I had to configure rogers APN (rogers-core-appl1.apn) initially. This allowed me to browse ofcourse. Suddenly I noticed I was unable to send MMS or receive them.
However - eventually MY MMS's will get to the receiption although I will get a failed alert, I on the other hand will NOT get any MMS's from senders. All calls are coming in as UNKNOWN CALLER.
I had Rogers do a network refresh on my SIM yet nothing has helped. I also installed the HTC App which updates the correct Carrier Profile settings, yet NOTHING hass worked
These are my only 2 grips with the phone, MMS and CID. Other small quircks (such as wrong time stamp) I can live with...
If any experts have ANY advice - I thank you in advance.
Regards
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Can you return the phone to telus after unlocking it?
i.mac said:
Can you return the phone to telus after unlocking it?
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you should be able to. i don't see why they would have an issue with this. most OEMs just reflash and refurb it.
Same CID issue here on Fido in canada.
Phone was sucessfully unlocked, data is working fine after APN configuration (don't care for or use MMS anymore)
But CID not working, is a biggie! Phone is going back as fast as it was purchased!
Sounds like it's a network issue. Rogers/Fido have problems but Bell (according to another post on XDA) did not. Bell and Telus have the same network.
nakadm said:
Same CID issue here on Fido in canada.
Phone was sucessfully unlocked, data is working fine after APN configuration (don't care for or use MMS anymore)
But CID not working, is a biggie! Phone is going back as fast as it was purchased!
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let me know if Telus gave you any issues in returning the phone unlocked.
I will test bell and TELUS SIM cards if I can before returning the phone.
I will report back shortly.
i.mac said:
let me know if Telus gave you any issues in returning the phone unlocked.
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I was able to return it without ANY issues.
Also - the MFG hack is not applicable to the HTC's apparently, it's only good for the LG's. I tried this already before returning it.
Hi Guys,
I'm posting this here to see if any one can offer any help.... (The optimus 7 forum is rather quiet and another member posted a similar thread with no replies)
I just got a new unlocked lg e900, and am trying to get my mms working. It is to work on a UK carrier "GiffGaff" who piggyback o2 UK. I got the internet to work, by entering the apn details - fine.
I am having real trouble getting the mms set up to use however - giffgaff dont send the settings. The LG network app in the market place doesnt work and only thinks its o2, and the MFG app keeps crashing when searching for the profiles to use.
So to reiterate - the one "solution" - using MFG keeps crashing when i am in the engineering menu and click on "set network profiles". It just takes me straight back to the call history page when it is just about to display the results.
Does anyone know of a work around for this or equivalent? I would really appreciate any help or advice on it. The phone isn't yet update to nodo either - will this solve anything? e.g stop it crashing?
Hi all
As a T-mobile UK customer I have been finding that I lose internet on my phone every 6 or 7 days, typically lasting for about 6 hours.
During my last converstaion with support I mentioned that i had the following in the APN settings
[email protected]
They seem to think that it might be a Tmobile USA profile and hence the problem (how the wrong APN could work for 95% of the time is beyond me).
I did take the handset to the USA last year but did not have data roaming turned on. Does anyone know how i ended up with the wrong APN? A quick google search returns no results for the APN listed...
I have since manually changed the APN and things seem ok (for now).
imaginarynumber said:
Hi all
As a T-mobile UK customer I have been finding that I lose internet on my phone every 6 or 7 days, typically lasting for about 6 hours.
During my last converstaion with support I mentioned that i had the following in the APN settings
[email protected]
They seem to think that it might be a Tmobile USA profile and hence the problem (how the wrong APN could work for 95% of the time is beyond me).
I did take the handset to the USA last year but did not have data roaming turned on. Does anyone know how i ended up with the wrong APN? A quick google search returns no results for the APN listed...
I have since manually changed the APN and things seem ok (for now).
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Whoops.... I have just found out where the the APN settings came from.
In an attempt to get my MMS working I just ran the HTC Connection Manager. For the first time in 1.5 years my MMS is working but I have noticed that my new APN settings say [email protected]
So it seems that HTC use APNs that T-mobile UK are not familiar with? Annoyingly I have no way of viewing the new APN or editing it
Does anyone know which settings the HTC connection manager uses? I am concerned that although MMS is working, if my internet connection goes down again, the UK helpdesk might just shrug their shoulders and pass the buck to HTC, who in turn will pass it back
Ok so I spoke to HTC UK today, they told that they have no way of finding out what APN their app uses, they suggested that I use the generic T-mobile APN that they have on their system, which I did and the MMS stopped working again.... so I ran their app and alll is fine again (for now).
I guess that I will have to try to email HTC. It is rather annoying that MS decided that customers shouldn't be allowed to see existing APNs.
I do have a dev account, tbh I only subscribed so that I could get mango early, if that means that I can sideload something that will show me the APN in use then please feel free to point me in the right direction.
Cheers
So I bought the HTC Once E8 from Etotalk, which came with all the Chinese apps removed and the Google Play store added. I went to the ATT store to get a nano sim, and calls and texts work just fine. My issue is with the data connection. I have done a lot of google fu, and have tried the same settings that people are using for UK M8's but am still having issues. From my understanding the bands are supported, so It should just be a configuration issue.
Would anybody be able to shed some light on this for me? This is my first overseas phone, and I have only had experience with vanilla Android installs to date.
Also, the first thing I did was install the software update from HTC, which probably wasn't the smartest move. I don't see how this would affect APN settings though....
Let me know if any other info is needed, thanks in advance for any help!!
ethansc said:
So I bought the HTC Once E8 from Etotalk, which came with all the Chinese apps removed and the Google Play store added. I went to the ATT store to get a nano sim, and calls and texts work just fine. My issue is with the data connection. I have done a lot of google fu, and have tried the same settings that people are using for UK M8's but am still having issues. From my understanding the bands are supported, so It should just be a configuration issue.
Would anybody be able to shed some light on this for me? This is my first overseas phone, and I have only had experience with vanilla Android installs to date.
Also, the first thing I did was install the software update from HTC, which probably wasn't the smartest move. I don't see how this would affect APN settings though....
Let me know if any other info is needed, thanks in advance for any help!!
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You probably lost the etotalk modrom while updating, but that shouldn't be a big deal. Though it may have overwritten the predefined APN settings?
Did you manualy check your APN settings under settings --> mobile data --> sim1 --> access point names?
matthijsph said:
You probably lost the etotalk modrom while updating, but that shouldn't be a big deal. Though it may have overwritten the predefined APN settings?
Did you manualy check your APN settings under settings --> mobile data --> sim1 --> access point names?
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Yeah that's what I think happened, is that I lost the modrom. I wouldnt think that would affect the APN though, isn't that supposed to be unique to each country, or something of the sort? I will send Etotalk a message and ask them if there's a chance that could be it anyways.
I have indeed tried keying it in manually, trying every combination from default, to the one I got from the ATT rep, to the ones I have found online from different forums.
Fixed
I tried using the legacy cingular APN. Apparently my grandfathered unlimited data plan was on these old codes, ie. 3G only...
Thanks anyways.