Hello,
I am an experienced ROM chef in the CDMA world, I have created kitchens for 4 or 5 CDMA devices and I'm really not new to cooking at all, but I have never had a GSM device.
A friend of mine has asked me to create a kaiser base for him. I have done so, and the ROM works as expected, with one exception: SMS is not functioning.
I have tried 2 different ways of configuring my ROM for his carrier (ATT): using the ConnectionSetup package and allowing it to run at first boot, or including connection provxml straight from ATT's 3.57 kaiser ROM. Both methods give my user a working data connection.
I guess what I am getting at is - what is the trick to SMS on GSM? Keep in mind I have never owned/used a GSM device, and I am looking at this from a kitchen level - I am assuming there has to be some kicker I am unaware of to make SMS work on a GSM network.
I have seen a control panel applet that appears to let the user select GSM or GPRS network for SMS. I have had my user select both and he has been unable to send or recieve on either setting. Again, his data connection is working fine, so my assumption was that if SMS via GSM was not working, he would have been able to use SMS via GPRS. Maybe I am not understanding how SMS works...
I have noticed that on CDMA devices, HTC replaces the MSFT SMS_providers.dll with their own HTC_SMS_Providers.dll. I have not dug in to find out what this is doing, because SMS has always worked fine for me on CDMA. I do not see this same setup in GSM ROMs. I am removing lockstream, but I thought that was common for GSM chefs as well. Lockstream includes smsTrigger.exe, and I do not know what this does, but what would SMS have to do with DRM?
I really hope this makes sense/rings a bell to someone. All my ROM cooking friends work in CDMA land...
What is involved in the process of SMS on GSM?
TIA for any advice.
Hey DCD, it has been a long time. I was in the Titan forum for a long time but now am in the Blackstone phone. Attached is some SMS/MMS settings that I got in the Blackstone (GSM phone) forum and think it might help with getting the right settings possible. Hope it helps.
I dont think cooking for CDMA is any different than GSM, except for adding a few operator dependent packages.
Either way, what SYS are you using? Have you tried with different SYS and see if it is a problem?
Does he has this problem with stock AT&T ROM?
Maybe those questions can help solve the issue.
try dumping stock rom and using those oemdrivers with known good sys/ext and it should work
thanks for your responses-
solved, i am an idiot, i had the following in my cdma sys cleanup package that obviously shouldnt be used for gsm:
; SYS\Phone
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\SIM]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\SimMgr]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Cellular\SimToolkit\LaunchBrowser]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Cellular\SimToolkit\LaunchBrowser\Csd]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Cellular\SimToolkit\LaunchBrowser\Csd]
sorry for wasting your time with my stupidity :/
mods please close/trash this thread
Sometimes a mistake such as that can happen to anyone. I suggest to put some part of this into the kitchen wiki ..
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My 8125 has been SIM/CID unlocked and I've loaded numerous WM6 ROMs and currently have CROSSBOW RELOADED running. Never a problem (well maybe a few !!) flashing Faria's Roms or others. Thanks for all the GREAT ROM work!! I also have a ROM Kitchen ROM version I loaded too!!
The ONE issue I have is that the GPRS/EDGE data connection refuses to connect. I live in area with EDGE but I fail to see the E or G icon pop up EVER. When the modem tries to dial the G icon appears briefly but I get the "no connection...." message.
WiFi and Bluetooth work like a champ on all ROMs loaded.
I thought that this behavior might be caused by Radio ROM and I've loaded the following with same results: 2.40.11, 2.47.11, and currently have 2.19.11 running. I also went back to Cingular 2.25.11 without success.
At one point I flashed back to the button 1.05 in hopes of cleaning stuff out! I then upgraded to stock Cingular 2.25 and same problem. No data connect. I then when ahead and flashed up to WM6 (Crossbow_reloaded).
Yes, I have a $20/mo Cingular data plan and I'm using the standard WAP settings for Cingular.
What am I missing???
Appreciate your help!!
Cingular 8125
IPL 2.26
SPL 2.26
GSM 2.19.11
OS 2.18.0.0
Hmmm. Sorry to ask such a question, but does it do it when you're unplugged from the USB cable?
Under Start - Settings - Connections - Connections - Advanced - Select Networks, did you try both My ISP and MEdia Net?
Try these cabs if you haven't already:
Thanks for your suggestions. Yes, I'm disconnected from USB while testing data connection.
I ran both of the cabs you included in response, but no help.
Any other thoughts?
Thanks,
I have wondered if there is a chance that some flag is set in the SIM that is preventing my connection. Anyone have experience here?
THX,
I've never had an issue with GPRS/EDGE after running either of the cabs above. I'm curious if you were to go back to the stock Cingular rom if it would all start working, or if there is some other issue going on here.
Also, for Cingular, if you are running WM6, don't even attempt to use any radio other than T-Mo 2.19 UK. Newer ones just seem to cause problems on the Cingular network with WM6.
I believe I have flashed back to stock Cingular 2.25 with this: (RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship_1).
I get same symptoms. I tried both "MY ISP" and "MEDIA Net" network settings with same results. I ran the cabs sent in this thread a couple of days ago too.
Specifically, I start IE and enter a web address and tap the green arrow to open the page. The little G appears w/moving arrows in the top bar and the info box says "Connecting to: Cingular GPRS". It stops and tries again and eventually the info box says: "Cannot connect: Dialed wap.cingular. There is no modem at this number".
Anything else to try?
Appreciate your help!
Cingular 8125
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
I found a related thread at the Cingular forums:
http://forums.cingular.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&thread.id=40993
According to prubin (poster in the above thread), Cingular discovers you are on the wrong plan for your PDA and automatically disables your access. I don't know how true that is, but it may be time for a call to Cingular to verify your connection and plan.
kegobeer said:
I found a related thread at the Cingular forums:
http://forums.cingular.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&thread.id=40993
According to prubin (poster in the above thread), Cingular discovers you are on the wrong plan for your PDA and automatically disables your access. I don't know how true that is, but it may be time for a call to Cingular to verify your connection and plan.
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Not true at all.
The only reason they disable the accounts has nothing to do with the device, but the amount of data usage.
Those yahoos were probably using > 500mb of data a month, or something insane that threw the flag.
Cingular doesn't care what type of device you have. It's just a marketing gimmick for them.
Yeah if you can't connect on the stock Cingular rom (the extended rom configuration will set all the GPRS and MMS stuff up for you so its ready to go) then you need to call Cingular, as its either them blocking you (not sure how they would do that really) or your phone has an issue. Be prepared, it seems Cingular will do some basic troubleshooting and then they'll offer to ship you a new phone. They don't take much time to really look into why a problem happens if its not very basic. I had a question about MMS messages and after a couple of minutes they were ready to ship me a replacement phone. I just laughed at how dumb that was. I let them note it in my account so I can get a future replacement very easily, but declined at the time.
A guy I work with has had Cingular replace (warranty exchange) his 8125 3 or 4 times now (he gets a scratch on it, so he calls and tells them some feature doesn't work)... Sheesh.
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A guy I work with has had Cingular replace (warranty exchange) his 8125 3 or 4 times now (he gets a scratch on it, so he calls and tells them some feature doesn't work)... Sheesh.
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And people wonder why it costs so much for a phone - I'm paying for those replacements!!!
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And people wonder why it costs so much for a phone - I'm paying for those replacements!!!
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Yep, I totally agree. But the cell companies don't seem to discourage it either.
My buddy got a new phone and gave me his old 8125 to play with. He loaded it with a rom from this site, think it was the TNT OS (ver 3 i beleive). I used to use the sliver and was able to send/receive pictures and video messages. Ever since i put my sim card in this phone i cannot, when i receive one it gives me the option to download it but then download fails after connecting to GPRS. When trying to send one the same thing happens connects to GPRS and fails. I can send/receive SMS fine, just not picture/video messages. Anybody know what i need to do to fix this?
I'm using AT&T/Cingular
Info about the phone i found
Cingular 8125 on front
IPL 2.25.0001
SPL 2.25.0001
GSM 02.69.11
OS 10.1.0.811
About
Windows Mobile 6
OS 5.2.318 (Build 15342.4.0.01) NTS
am i the only one with this problem?
maybe you should reconfigure your MMS settings..
See the following links, screenshots are for WM5, but is similar in WM6. Depending on the version of Arcsoft's MMS, may be different ways to get to the MMS settings...
http://www.wireless.att.com/businesssupport/deviceConfig.do?content=KB56475.html
http://www.wireless.att.com/businesssupport/deviceConfig.do?content=KB56044.html
There are also various CAB files you can find on here to automatically set these up...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=47765&d=1187759732
Good luck!
i dont have the mms configuration secton like those howto's have, i need to figure out i guess what is on this phone and maybe put somthing newer on it. I just dont want to kill the phone, havnt really done this stuff before.
try this automated network configuration, developed by one of the guys here in xda-dev, install, then go to start/settings/connection/network wizard, choose your country and your cell provider and just wait for instructions
just a fyi for anybody who cares or anybody else with the same problem but this attachment/cab fixed the problem!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=47765&d=1187759732
Hi Guys,
I have just replaced my trusty Wizard (running Wizard Love ROM WM5 and working great on Orange UK) due to me damaging the external antenna plug which caused the whole phone to cease receiving a signal
I bought myself a replacement Wizard that has WM6.1 Pro ROM on it with HTC Touch Flo. I put my Orange SIM into it and cannot do much else now other than send & receive phone calls - no SMS, no GPRS, also cannot access the "phone" icon under the settings menu or even access the "SIM Manager" either.
Any ideas anybody? I suspect the Orange SIM myself!!
Many thanks in advance.
Mike.
Maybe your sim card is damaged in some strange way?
I'm not sure - the SIM works great in my other Wizard running WM5. In fact I had this same problem with my other unlocked Wizard, and it was only after changing to the "Wizard Love" ROM that it was sorted out.
I have read that it may be that the radio ROM needs updating - I don't really know.
I suspect there are other UK users out there on the Orange network who have WM6.1 running OK.
Cheers,
Mike.
Better check your SIM card in other phone for reliability ;] cheers
I have and the SIM works fine.
Although the OS is upgraded over what was on my previous Wizard, it would appear that the IPL/SPL and GSM are older versions on my replacement phone. Is it possible to upgrade these without affecting the WM6.1 install??
Cheers,
Mike.
After a lot of reading I seem to have now sorted out the problem.
I flashed a new radio ROM from 02.07.10 to 03.02.11. I put the SIM card back in and found I had a number of voicemail messages and SMS's waiting for me. No changes to any settings and I can now access SIM Manager etc, etc
I'm just happy that I'm back in communication!!
Well, further to the above I cannot now access GPRS or the MMS service.
I have tried all the GPRS settings from my older Wizard and flashed different Radio ROM's on my replacement Wizard. Now on Radio ROM 02.19.11 as I did read this seems the best one for the UK.
Anybody else on here use Orange (UK) for GPRS or MMS, and has it working so I can see where I'm going wrong??
Thanks in advance.
Mike.
I've done a lot of reading and had a play...seems to work now. I even have the "E" symbol on screen, so I'm getting an EDGE connection now that is a first!!
I was using CR86 Touch HD Cruise Edition, so I flashed XDA2's WM6.5 M2D ROM onto it instead. This then automatically picked up a GPRS/EDGE connection, but I could not access the SIM...I got the "the phone is not ready, wait 15 secs etc,etc" message. I then flashed the Radio ROM from 2.19.11 and took it up to 2.69.11 (I have previously tried 03.02.11, 02.37.11, 02.25.11, 02.19.11 to no avail)
Seems to work OK, I have sent & received a MMS messages & standard SMS now.
I just need to set up my email & sync my contacts (again)
Hi Everyone,
I have searched online, contacted T-Mobile, HTC and can't find what i need.
Using T-Mobile HD7 on Wind Network (Canada), everything works fine except MMS, i need to add second APN and information for Wind, but seems T-Mobile left that part of the phone locked, there's no way to add second APN or modify it. Since wind uses different settings for Internet-MMS i have no way of getting MMS to work. Searching online i found many asking the same questions, even phones on different networks. Seems T-mobile not alone.
At this point considering all options, including loading Mango from different carrier if necessary, question is-- Do any of you have Mango installed that gives option adding second APN? Any other alternative you may know to get MMS to work?
Thanks
You could make a provxml that modifies the registry manually if your on mango.. Ot if your on nodo and unlocked you can installer the registry editor and modify them yourself. Its not a tmobile thing its wp7 in general. I'm on simple mobile. They have those settings in HTC connection setup but not for wind I just checked.
Sent from my HD7 using Board Express
Thanks for the reply.
That's what i was afraid, by the sounds of it HTC is no hurry to update the App to support Wind or Mobilicity. I guess i have to revert back to 7004 (i'm on 7392) and try the registry hack. Do you know if the registry changes stays after updating the phone back to NoDo-7392? Mango? From what i got from another thread, as long as i don't run HTC connection tool, i should be ok, right? I know many questions, only now starting searching on options to hack the phone, see you did great work on updating to Mango-- Thanks
Try this. Basically this tells the phone to re-get the mms settings from your provider. It worked for me on AT&T.
I am from the Android world, zero experience with WP7 and I want to buy this exact phone and possibly flash a custom ROM
and the goal is to get this to work on Page Plus (Verizon MVNO) and NOT Sprint
the phone is currently set up for C-Spire - a smaller CDMA carrier in Mississippi (formerly Cellular South)
I have access to CDMA workshop and other CDMA tools, such as qpst
I need Verizon coverage and a REAL keyboard at a cheap price ($55/month) and this looks like it could be the ticket!
I had the same question and found a post from bing searches with someone claiming to have succeeded in activating it on Page Plus. Unfortunately the person never really detailed how he did it.
I'd still like to know how it can be done.
The Arrive can be flashed to P+. I'm using one on it. You'll need the paid CDMAWS, not the hacked version.
Also, before you do this, remember that the 3G will be intermittent. The reason for this is that you cannot upload the authentication file to the phone's file system, so the phone never gets true 3G, it cycles between connecting and 1XRTT. To make this work properly, you'll need to have a ROM loaded that's a direct port from the HTC Trophy, or an Arrive ROM that has the Verizon operator package in it. I've yet to learn how to do this, but as time permits, I'll figure it out. I've got a few requests in to ansar and leadpoizon, two ROM Chefs that are heavily involved in GOLD_C (our phone's) development here.
Here's what I did:
1. Put the phone in Diag Mode, using ##MFG# on the phone dialer and connect to CDMAWS.
2. Obtain your MSL/SPC by using the HTC Method, then write it to 000000.
3. Program the phone using CDMAWS just as you would an android device; put in MIN, MDN and set your data settings to your#@vzw3g.com.
4. Load a modded PRL to put the phone on Verizon's Towers, and lose the roam triangle. (Attached)
5. Call P+ and give them the MEID of the Arrive. They'll tell you to do *22890, but do NOT do it.
6. Once they say it's active, make a test call, and enjoy your Arrive.
The steps above will give you voice calls, SMS, and spotty 3G. MMS will not work, unless you hack the registry of the phone. The phone works great with WiFi, though.
If you're brave, try forcing the phone into 1X by finding a non-EvDo PRL. You'll be showing that you're roaming, but it may yield better data results. If you do set 1X though, be sure to set MIP type (in CDMAWS) to Simple IP.
Post here w/ questions, if you have any...