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Captivate only one with this Antenna?

From looking around seems we are the only ones?
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Huh? What makes you say that's the antenna?

My htc aria also has the same thing.
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TexUs said:
Huh? What makes you say that's the antenna?
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What else could it be? And its right next to the external Antenna port. And why make the back metal with contacts?

The antenna is at the bottom. Thats surely not it...

temperbad said:
The antenna is at the bottom. Thats surely not it...
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GSM Antenna. That could be BT, GPS, Wifi?

That could be to ground the phone.

tbae2 said:
That could be to ground the phone.
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If the phone needed to be grounded wouldn't it not run when the battery cover was off?

YellowGTO said:
What else could it be? And its right next to the external Antenna port. And why make the back metal with contacts?
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There's two little rubberish/paper things between the metal, it doesn't touch the back.
Not sure what it is but it doesn't have anything to do with contacting the cover or there wouldn't be that material keeping it from coming in contact with it.

TexUs said:
There's two little rubberish/paper things between the metal, it doesn't touch the back.
Not sure what it is but it doesn't have anything to do with contacting the cover or there wouldn't be that material keeping it from coming in contact with it.
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Hmm, looks like on mine they are contact pads. I can see shiny meterial where it contacts to it. I was guessing the powedercoated back doesn't conduct very well so they put the pads on. Or else it would look like the simcard blocker right above the circle don't ya think?

YellowGTO said:
Hmm, looks like on mine they are contact pads. I can see shiny meterial where it contacts to it. I was guessing the powedercoated back doesn't conduct very well so they put the pads on. Or else it would look like the simcard blocker right above the circle don't ya think?
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True, I had never touched them, LOL... Yea nevermind what I said earlier then.
I still don't think this is an antenna because I'd suspect if you bridged them with your finger (like I just tried) the signal would drop, which isn't the case.

The one on the left moves in and out. I assume its to let the phone know when the back cover is off.

tikicult said:
The one on the left moves in and out. I assume its to let the phone know when the back cover is off.
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We gatta see if it drops Wifi, bluetooth or GPS single when you touch them. Almost all contacts i've seen with something you can remove move in and out. Like old Cellphone chargers and stuff. Maybe its for some kinda accsessory we have not seen yet that clips on the back? I dunno?

I thought during one of the walkthroughs with the phone, someone mentioned that it was indeed the antenna of the phone.

There is a thin metal border that runs around the front of the HTC kaiser that has the exact same mechanism with the pins and the bare metal and it is the antenna. I wouldn't doubt this is the same thing. Touching both the pins at the same time does not make it drop signal, but having that metal gone really does a number on the phones reception.

Well the human body does conduct so maybe touch th em both with something rubber? okay I used the two earbuds from the headset and sure enough it goes from 3 bars to 0
wait that might have been a fluke.. i'm only loosing one bar now with the earbuds I must have just turned it the right way before

In my house, my service always fluctuates. When I use a Nokia, i can go from full bars to dropping a call by moving around. With my iPhone, I rarely saw a full bar. It is the same with this phone.
But you know what? I haven't dropped a call in my house, nor have I dropped a call anywhere else.
Since someone was sitting in the middle of their house, and showed how white-knuckling a phone kills the signal, everyone is worried about their antenna. As long as you keep your call going, does it matter whether or not you lost a bar or two?
Most people now are just looking for a reason to critisize all phones. And yes, EVERY phone loses a bar or two when you squeeze it.
If you are dropping calls, just leave the phone and get another one. If you're not, just ignore the bars and enjoy a sweet ass phone!

madjsp said:
In my house, my service always fluctuates. When I use a Nokia, i can go from full bars to dropping a call by moving around. With my iPhone, I rarely saw a full bar. It is the same with this phone.
But you know what? I haven't dropped a call in my house, nor have I dropped a call anywhere else.
Since someone was sitting in the middle of their house, and showed how white-knuckling a phone kills the signal, everyone is worried about their antenna. As long as you keep your call going, does it matter whether or not you lost a bar or two?
Most people now are just looking for a reason to critisize all phones. And yes, EVERY phone loses a bar or two when you squeeze it.
If you are dropping calls, just leave the phone and get another one. If you're not, just ignore the bars and enjoy a sweet ass phone!
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This thread has nothing to do with loosing bars. Its about what are these metal contacts on the back of the phone.

YellowGTO said:
This thread has nothing to do with loosing bars. Its about what are these metal contacts on the back of the phone.
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until the post previous to mine.

dewt said:
Touching both the pins at the same time does not make it drop signal, but having that metal gone really does a number on the phones reception.
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BS.
Metal gone on mine and it's still at -51dB, 5 bars.
Metal back on and it's at -51dB, 5 bars.
If I touch the phone I can get it to fluctuate to -91dB, 3 bars... So don't try to feed me the "you must be in an excellent signal area to where it won't matter" nonsense.
Really don't think these are the antennas, but IF THEY WERE, the connection to the case doesn't seem to do squat.

Battery door issue

My battery door at the top on the left and right are not completely flush with the device. There is not a huge gap, but you can see it's not flush. Is anyone else's like this, is this something I should be worried about ?
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I would....there are contacts there for the ant.....check if signal
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sporty377 said:
I would....there are contacts there for the ant.....check if signal
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Seems good, as I said it's not very bad just a bit on each side. It just isn't 100% flush.

Hmmm...it should be flushed

Are you sure the door is latched securely? Sometimes I must really force mine to close. Like sporty377 said, this can affect your signal if the door isn't completely secured.
I am disappointed with the overall quality of the TB exterior. It pales in comparison to my old N1. Seems like HTC did a rush job and threw together a bunch of leftover stuff from the parts bin and said F*ck it. People will buy it regardless, just get it out to the carriers.

Its snapped all the way down. I will get some pics in a few. It doesn't seem like it's affecting anything.

Pics added. Best pics I could get, which it sort of looks worse in the pics. I don't see it affecting anything. This is a like new bolt, and I have other other like new that is like this also. I do have one more coming tomorrow, which I only hope may be better.

Mrdroid921 said:
Its snapped all the way down. I will get some pics in a few. It doesn't seem like it's affecting anything.
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There are a number of "catch points" that need to be squeezed tight and snapped into place around the outer edge of the cover.
If it is tight, and it is within the first 30 days (or did it change to 14--can't recall), and if it's troublesome, have VZW either give you an entirely new phone or a new battery cover.

tbcpn said:
There are a number of "catch points" that need to be squeezed tight and snapped into place around the outer edge of the cover.
If it is tight, and it is within the first 30 days (or did it change to 14--can't recall), and if it's troublesome, have VZW either give you an entirely new phone or a new battery cover.
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It's all the way down, snapped as tight as it can go. I do have another replacement coming tomorrow.

Mrdroid921 said:
It's all the way down, snapped as tight as it can go. I do have another replacement coming tomorrow.
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Yeah, mine fits fine, and I probably pull off the battery door every couple days to pull the battery (rebooting after trying another ROM-radio-kernel combo).

tbcpn said:
Yeah, mine fits fine, and I probably pull off the battery door every couple days to pull the battery (rebooting after trying another ROM-radio-kernel combo).
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Do you have even a slight gap? Or is it very flush ?

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Do you have even a slight gap? Or is it very flush ?
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Looking closely, there is a slight gap at both top corners, but one would have to be looking very closely and specifically for such to notice 'em.

tbcpn said:
Looking closely, there is a slight gap at both top corners, but one would have to be looking very closely and specifically for such to notice 'em.
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See that is how mine is. I guess its ok then.

My original cover locks up tight as can be. My extended cover has a tiny bit of play on the top left corner.
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playbeasy said:
My original cover locks up tight as can be. My extended cover has a tiny bit of play on the top left corner.
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And your signal seems to be ok?

I think all will have a very slight gap, but it should be uniform all the way around the battery door. You could try snapping it on with a different method. Top first, then middle or vice versa.

[FIX] Sensation Display Responsiveness

Hi,
I've been experiencing issues with my sensations screen not being very responsive i.e:
- taking 5 attempts to unlock the phone
- opening random apps I didnt press when scrolling through the menu
- pressing the wrong things
- not being able to write a message properly because your key presses are not registering.
- generally being very frustrating and making it hard to use the phone.
Now I know there is another thread which tells you to fully discharge your phone then leave it over night etc etc ... this worked for a few hours but didn't stick. The problem came back.
Well I have found a solution that has worked for me. So im hoping it works for all you guys. I've found out that its a GROUNDING issue. The phone case is not connecting well to the inner part.
Guide:
1. Turn off and dismatle the phone.
2. Remove battery.
3. See image below....
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4. As the image sugests ... gently scratch the surface of these orange strips where the pins will touch. Use a coin, screwdriver or anything small and metal.
** SCRATCH GENTLY - IT DOESNT TAKE MUCH!!! GENTLY!!!
5. Do this for all the orange strips and the little silver one up the side of the case.
6. Once you have done this you can give the case a quick clean (I just rubbed all the dust and blew on it) gets rid of any dust etc.
7. Thats it. Put it all back together and fire it up.
** Optional - I eased the little pins ringed in red out with a small screwdriver - just to give them that extra push when connecting to the outer shell. Dont have to do this.
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Now I know this is not ideal but it has worked for me. My phone is blistering now with no issues when zipping around the menus. Screen unlocks in one go.
I will be testing the phone throughout the day and reporting back my findings. But for the past 2 hours Its been perfect.
Hope this helps you guys out.
ciao.
**Note - My phone is S-OFF and i'm using Android Revolution ROM**

I have no issues so can't offer any confirmation. Hope it works out. I've been "concerned" about those contacts since I saw the design. I wonder if that has anything to do with the wifi issues? Certainly easy and cheap enough to test.
Thanks.

these connectors are coated with gold or either silver, so they will not oxidate (not know if I'm using the correct word in egnglish).
Once scratched the surface, it will oxidate a lot easyer and faster, so the problem will only get worser in the end

Caspertje19 said:
these connectors are coated with gold or either silver, so they will not oxidate (not know if I'm using the correct word in egnglish).
Once scratched the surface, it will oxidate a lot easyer and faster, so the problem will only get worser in the end
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That is exactly what I think
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If it's gold and you scrape it off that could be true. Perhaps bending the contacts slightly for a bit more pressure could help. But then we'll see posts of people breaking them...

This as you said could be true. Although I have only marked a circle where the pins will make the best contact. The rest of the strip I have left covered in this gold layer. I've been using my phone allday and I can honestly say it has helped a lot! No screen issues whatsoever.
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beatalliance said:
This as you said could be true. Although I have only marked a circle where the pins will make the best contact. The rest of the strip I have left covered in this gold layer. I've been using my phone allday and I can honestly say it has helped a lot! No screen issues whatsoever.
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The contact points are what matter. If those corrode the problem would just come back. It takes longer than a day for corrosion to appear. Bad contact at the points you've indicated would certainly cause problems. What you don't want to do is get short term gain and long term trouble.
Assuming the problem is dirty contacts this could be a better option than scraping:
http://www.ohmcheck.com/clean_connector.htm
If the issue is contact pressure then slight bending of the spring parts could help.

htc need to design a new cover

i was having the same issues as you for the second week of owning the phone, first week was flawless. Through the third week however i noticed that the problems all disappeared of their own accord and returned to its out of the box state in terms of responsiveness.

Try it tonight..

It's a good shout but a bit extreme. As someone said, it could get worse in the long run.
I'll take liberty to recommend to only scratch silver pin contact on back cover. It's alluminium anyway, so can be repeated if it gets oxidated.
DO NOT SCRATCH GOLDEN CONTACTS. They are for WiFi and network antennas and have no contact with body.
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Not to threadbash or flame or anything. But how does this help? I understand you said it is a grounding issue... but my phone seems to work fine *fingers crossed* and it works fine with or without the back cover on; so what does grounding have to do with anything?
There was juts one time that I missed a call, as it wouldn't slide into answer properly ...

Well i have been using the phone for over 24 hours now and the screen is still working perfectly and I have no issues with WIFI or mobile signal what so ever.
Looking at the case again, I would agree with only scratching the silver strip seeing as that's the only connecting part to the outer case.
Regarding the grounding, with my issue... My phone screen didn't function correctly without contact with the case. When I touched a certain part of the case it worked. Personally I wouldn't have designed the sensation case to work in this way, I'd have kept it similar to the DHD case but hey ho.
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Cracking near the SIM tray?

I took off my case after a drop today and noticed a few cracks near the SIM tray and power button.
Is this a common problem?
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Wow that sucks! Ive dropped my phone a few times but thankfully no cracks

dehsA said:
I took off my case after a drop today and noticed a few cracks near the SIM tray and power button.
Is this a common problem?
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damage to your phone in a cheap case is a common problem. which case do you use?

Enddo said:
damage to your phone in a cheap case is a common problem. which case do you use?
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One of those $2 quicksand hard cases from eBay.
Although I doubt it was caused by the drop since impact was at the top of the phone (back cover cracked open slightly)?

dehsA said:
One of those $2 quicksand hard cases from eBay.
Although I doubt it was caused by the drop since impact was at the top of the phone (back cover cracked open slightly)?
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The shock of the impact travels throughout any rigid material unless it is specifically designed to dissipate the vibrations. But it's not a car so I very much doubt it does that, so I would expect it is indeed related to the drop.

dehsA said:
One of those $2 quicksand hard cases from eBay.
Although I doubt it was caused by the drop since impact was at the top of the phone (back cover cracked open slightly)?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY9Svj9fYVg
edit - if the drop didn't cause it what are you saying is the cause? im confused

Don't like the bit "you took your case off" you did all to protect it.. Frightened to look under my Spiegen...
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Its definitely the shock traveling through the device from the impact. Its not a unibody design so the different parts such as the mid section has very minimal stress levels due to its isolation from the back panel. And if you notice the crack appeared to have occurred in one of the weakest parts of the bezel. Also its a very thin plastic with an extremely thin bezel.

I have a crack exactly in same spot. I have always using Spigen Neohybrid case.

The crack seems to be very common in all of the nexus 5 phones I have worked with. I have swapped out several screens and all of them had a crack near the sim tray and a few below the volume buttons.

audit13 said:
The crack seems to be very common in all of the nexus 5 phones I have worked with. I have swapped out several screens and all of them had a crack near the sim tray and a few below the volume buttons.
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exact the same on my both nexus 5

I've been considering buying an N5 so I've been keeping an eye on eBay, and there are lots of N5s which have that crack. Every seller says that it doesn't cause any problems, which I believe, but it's clearly some sort of minor design flaw.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/hairline-crack-phone-t2717845

I also have cracks. 4. By sim tray, volume buttons, jack and usb. I have a red one, if it matters.
Nexus 5 ?

zsocop said:
I also have cracks. 4. By sim tray, volume buttons, jack and usb. I have a red one, if it matters.
Nexus 5 ?
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Yeap, i also have this crack + one on the bottom part of the volume button

My phone have them too.

My red N5 have two cracks - volume buttons and jack... and I use a spygen case, too. This is a design flaw, IMO.
Plus: if you press the area between volume buttons and the rear panel, you'll be able to activate volume switches.

Same here few months ago...
Google refuse to replace my phone because it's a cosmetic default wich "don't affect usage of the phone".
So I call the support few weeks after and I says that I've some untimely reboot. They send me a new phone immediatly...
A lot of people have this problem and Google replace some of them but not all...

my device has also that crack issue. what I did is I bought a slickwrap skin. and it looks good now!

Mine was cracked and the piece fell off out of the box brand new. Never affected the functionality.

Mine also has crack as on photo. Mine has Spigen hybrid case from first day so my thoughts are that it is factory defect, and that spot is a weak spot.
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Replaced the battery, cell signal got much worse...

Hey fellow Nexus 5 users,
So I ordered my nexus 5 nearly two years ago now, and I wanted to replace the battery to regain that first day battery life,
and since the performance is still top notch maybe keep the phone another year.
Anyway I replaced it, and now the cell signal is worse, I get Edge where I used to get H+ or LTE, sometimes the LTE signal is displayed in the status bar, but no data is getting through. but I can't explain it... and the weird thing is at home I get full working 4G. it really depends on the location.
I think I replaced it correctly, without damaging any internals, the only thing I noticed that I broke is (I don't know what it's called) a little thing that's on the back of the phone, that keep the back well attached to the phone. (see picture)
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and I broke one that's on the top, where there are little pins that make contact with the phone. But even with one that's broken, the back is still very well attached to the phone.
My question is, are the contacts on the back used at all to improve cell reception ? What else could cause this issue
by the way, wifi is working fine, phone calls as wells...
thanks for reading and the help

Well, you broke something on the top of the cover, there are pins at the top, on the cover. Your reception has taken a turn for the worse. I am going with, maybe most definitely yes. But a simple google search for teardown parts may show you what you need. I say may, because info like that is not always easy to find or is even available.
Also, have you tried pressing on the top back of the phone to see if the reception gets an better?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7517/google-nexus-5-review/7
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+5+Teardown/19016
After vexing these sites and reading up on it, if you broke parts on the back cover that adhere it to the phone. And you are having reception issues, time to purchas a new cover. Should not be to expensive. Also, a little trick/test that you can perform is. Obtain some copper foil cut it small enough and fold it to the point where you are sure that it will make contact with the cover and the antenna contacts. But allow the cover to adhere to the phone still.
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Jaytronics said:
Well, you broke something on the top of the cover, there are pins at the top, on the cover. Your reception has taken a turn for the worse. I am going with, maybe most definitely yes. But a simple google search for teardown parts may show you what you need. I say may, because info like that is not always easy to find or is even available.
Also, have you tried pressing on the top right back of the phone to see if the reception gets an better?
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Thanks for the response, yes I tried several times to press before, and no changes.
I feel like the issue lies somewhere else. I'm not sure if the pins on the back have that much impact on the reception ?
Maybe I moved the antennas/cables with my screwdriver (the black and the white cable that run alongside the battery) when I replaced the battery, I was careful and don't think I did, but I'm gonna try to do what this guy did when I get home : https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus5/comments/2q2lw5/nexus_5_keeps_losing_mobile_signal/cn36z03
Anyone know exactly what the black and white antennas do ? I mean one for 3G, the other for LTE, that kind of thing
Thanks for any help

Have you tried to take it apart again and see if they popped off or are lose? Maybe you cut one of the antenna connection wires ever s9 slightly enough that you did not notice it when putting it back together. Though, that is somewhat of a slightly difficult thing to do. As they are covered in braided stainless steel. Past these things, I know nothing else that would help.
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Make sure both ends of those antenna wires are secure... I know at least the "top" ends snap down onto their contacts and when I changed my battery, the RH one popped loose and I had to snap it back down.