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no app2sd yet or stock android rom?

i may be getting an epic tomorrow but im debating it atm. i don't see alot of roms for this device, not even stock android ones. the biggest drawback for me is no apps2sd. i cannot live without it. as far as roms go i can develop some for us, ive made several hero roms before. but is there any development on apps2sd or do we have to wait for the froyo update?

fixxxer2008 said:
i may be getting an epic tomorrow but im debating it atm. i don't see alot of roms for this device, not even stock android ones. the biggest drawback for me is no apps2sd. i cannot live without it. as far as roms go i can develop some for us, ive made several hero roms before. but is there any development on apps2sd or do we have to wait for the froyo update?
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Is apps2sd really a big deal for u? The epic has more internal mem than the hero so u won't run. Out as quick. I switched from hero with cm6 and I had to use apps2sd on hero, but I haven't been able to use all of the epics internal mem. Idk how many apps u got so if u got even enuff to use up the epic mem then I understand ur concern, but I really doubt anyone needs that much.
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Dont, get an Evo. More devs, more ROMs, more customizing.

Darkshneider said:
Dont, get an Evo. More devs, more ROMs, more customizing.
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Thats true but the overall experience is better on Epic. If Epic 2.1 stock feels faster then EVO 2.2 stock then you have to wonder how fast this sucker is going to be in 2.2. Plus everybody is just waiting for 2.2 since whats the point putting some much effort of a software version thats hardly going to be used when 2.2 comes out. Is there still 2.1 development for Android phones that received 2.2, i seriously doubt it.

Darkshneider said:
Dont, get an Evo. More devs, more ROMs, more customizing.
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Epic screen is sooooo much better than evo and it really is way faster. Plus. I think a lot of development is overrated...all I'm looking for is that one good rom to stick with..I get tired of switching all the time. Just my opinion.
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ravizzle said:
Is apps2sd really a big deal for u?
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yes, yes it is. the development for this phone really lacks.

Darkshneider said:
Dont, get an Evo. More devs, more ROMs, more customizing.
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i might but the evo is going on 6 months old now so im doubtful ill get one.

fixxxer2008 said:
i might but the evo is going on 6 months old now so im doubtful ill get one.
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Didnt you get a Pre after the Hero? Seriously, go Evo.

Darkshneider said:
Didnt you get a Pre after the Hero? Seriously, go Evo.
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yeah and my pre basically smokes the hero as im running at 1ghz..
i dunno what ill do yet, my upgrade is due tomorrow. knowing my luck ill buy the evo and the development will cease.

fixxxer2008 said:
i may be getting an epic tomorrow but im debating it atm. i don't see alot of roms for this device, not even stock android ones. the biggest drawback for me is no apps2sd. i cannot live without it. as far as roms go i can develop some for us, ive made several hero roms before. but is there any development on apps2sd or do we have to wait for the froyo update?
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Yeah bro you need froyo..but just be patient the word is froyo for epic sometime in nov. I'm coming from an evo and yes I'm dissapointed about the dev community or lack there of for the epic but even with that and the epic running 2.1 I'm still glad I switched from the evo..so pick it up its a great phone
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fixxxer2008 said:
yeah and my pre basically smokes the hero as im running at 1ghz..
i dunno what ill do yet, my upgrade is due tomorrow. knowing my luck ill buy the evo and the development will cease.
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Lol, I dont think so. Even if it ceases, there plenty to go around.

There is no incentive to develop for the Epic 4g at this point. The instant the phone was released it was made public knowledge that 2.2 was coming to it, and the closer that date comes the less people want to invest in tweaking 2.1.
App2sd is a cool feature and all, but I don't see a need at this point. I have a ridiculous number of apps installed and I still have a hundred MB free on the internal storage. I use maybe about 40% of the apps I have installed regularly and about 30% of what I have installed I never use. Maybe when Android starts getting better games ported over from iOS or developed natively on the platform, the need will arise.
And get whatever phone you want frankly. The epic is better than the Evo, and I am not saying that because I own one. If you are willing to make roms and help develop, I am not too sure why you are concerned about the lack of development on the phone. Isn't that something that regular users should be worried about?

I honestly wouldn't recommend the EVO to anyone... it was the worst phone I've ever used.

twoeleven99 said:
Yeah bro you need froyo..but just be patient the word is froyo for epic sometime in nov. I'm coming from an evo and yes I'm dissapointed about the dev community or lack there of for the epic but even with that and the epic running 2.1 I'm still glad I switched from the evo..so pick it up its a great phone
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+1 same thing happened with me. I was with the evo for a week it just felt like a bigger hero honestly... epic is amazing.. go for epic you won't be disappointed.. you always have that 30 day return guarantee..
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There is really no point for Apps2sd at all. What are you saving all that internal mem for? And just because there are more roms out doesnt mean thats a good thing. Coming from a G1 I hated that there were so many damn roms to choose from, and they all had the same basic ish cept maybe a few of them were themed up differently.
The Evo is basically turning into a iPhone IMO, and im sick of the users swearing up and down that THAT phone is basically the best in the biz...FALSE. The epic suits me more for what I need which is basically gaming, movies, and partial business. All the Evo has to go on is .3" of screen and a processor that not nearly as powerful as the epics and for that matter SENSE UI IS ****ING UGLY *shudders*
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LMAO, I just love our small community. We dont need 50 differrent roms and become a clusterfuck like the other sub forums. We need to support each other
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Why does everyone want a stock android rom, I thought the point of these different phones was to be different

Zei said:
All the Evo has to go on is .3" of screen and a processor that not nearly as powerful as the epics and for that matter SENSE UI IS ****ING UGLY *shudders*
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I wouldn't go that far. The Evo has a few advantages over the Epic and the epic has a few advantages over the evo. For one, the evo has a larger screen, and even though its only .3 inches, its VERY noticeable. Also, somehow even though they have a larger screen, the screen uses less battery than our epic's. Also, they have a kickstand which is pretty damn sweet.
I chose the Epic because of the Super AMOLED, which I THOUGHT was super battery efficient and also a brilliant display (1/2 aint bad), the amazing processor and the dedicated GPU. HTC makes amazing phones, and the EVO's build quality is higher than the Epic's, but they ALWAYS shortchange their phones by ignoring the graphics department. Every smartphone I have purchased has been an HTC device, and on EVERY SINGLE one they have had no hardware accelerated graphics, which has always become an issue.

Darkshneider said:
Dont, get an Evo. More devs, more ROMs, more customizing.
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Had an evo for nearly 90 days. Had froyo. Had every cm6 nightly. Had cm6 rc1.
Miss cm6. Miss froyo. But am loving the epic so much more than the evo.
Better battery life, better screen, physical keyboard, better stability.
Sent from my fully armed and operational Epic using XDA App

schizopunk said:
I honestly wouldn't recommend the EVO to anyone... it was the worst phone I've ever used.
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reasons? im leaning towards the evo because it's alot cheaper than the epic.

Zei said:
There is really no point for Apps2sd at all.
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yes there is, the more free ram you have, the faster your phone runs. apps2sd is a godsend.

Zei said:
There is really no point for Apps2sd at all. What are you saving all that internal mem for?
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I look forward to the day that you are forced to eat those words.

Honeycomb sdk preview port for desire hd works on inspire too

I got sick of youtubing honeycomb videos and decided to try out the desire hd honeycomb sdk port - guess what? It workes on inspire too. At least it works as well as it does on desire
I found a working link to the rom http://www.r2doesinc.bitsurge.net/OMHC-port-desirehd.zip
Here is the desire hd thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=958391
Be sure to have your copy of android revolution / cm7 / whatever on your sd card for reverting to it when you're done. (volume rocker down and power to get back to recovery) This rom has no data access. But it's a neat way to check out the ui for now. It runs surprisingly fast considering it's origins.
I just wanted to stick this where more inspire users might see it and confirm that it works, I am not the developer.

I'm still really confused why people want to run a tablet fork of Android on their phones.

helushune said:
I'm still really confused why people want to run a tablet fork of Android on their phones.
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Why not? That is the true question.

helushune said:
I'm still really confused why people want to run a tablet fork of Android on their phones.
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Try it out the interface is wonderful maybe then you'll see

randomblame said:
Try it out the interface is wonderful maybe then you'll see
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Still, doesn't make any sense to me. Especially when they've made it fairly clear 3.x is for tablets, 2.x is for phones. A bigger number in front doesn't always mean it's better. Not trying to start a flame war, just trying to understand.

It's highly buggy. Have tried this on a few phones.
Maybe google will come out with a phone version and simply name it something else.
Honeycomb was written specifically for tablets. Not a lot of that is easily ported to any phone.
Read xoom forums. Even it has its issues.
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helushune said:
Still, doesn't make any sense to me. Especially when they've made it fairly clear 3.x is for tablets, 2.x is for phones. A bigger number in front doesn't always mean it's better. Not trying to start a flame war, just trying to understand.
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We do it to do it... to say we done it... to prove we can do it... plan simple and to the point

symonc said:
It's highly buggy. Have tried this on a few phones.
Maybe google will come out with a phone version and simply name it something else.
Honeycomb was written specifically for tablets. Not a lot of that is easily ported to any phone.
Read xoom forums. Even it has its issues.
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ummm isn't 2.4 Honeycomb for phones? thought i seen that somewhere.and 3.0 is for tablets specifically

wade7919 said:
ummm isn't 2.4 Honeycomb for phones? thought i seen that somewhere.and 3.0 is for tablets specifically
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2.4 is Gingerbread.
With
Dual core support and hopefully some bug fixes.
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im with the why not crowd.. but i would think problems would arrise from the fact that the tablet has higher pixel count and surface area. But ill prolly try this out before tomuch longer.. maybe someone will make a custom rom to runn better on the phones.. Overclock the cpu and it would help with processing what is supposed to run on 2 cores.. but then again you got the extra gpu cores that he nividia chipset uses.. Sooo.. but on tiger and newegg you can get a low priced nividia powered tablets for 300 to 349. not that much money if you can save up and skip the bar for a month.

sprhr0 said:
im with the why not crowd.. but i would think problems would arrise from the fact that the tablet has higher pixel count and surface area. But ill prolly try this out before tomuch longer.. maybe someone will make a custom rom to runn better on the phones.. Overclock the cpu and it would help with processing what is supposed to run on 2 cores.. but then again you got the extra gpu cores that he nividia chipset uses.. Sooo.. but on tiger and newegg you can get a low priced nividia powered tablets for 300 to 349. not that much money if you can save up and skip the bar for a month.
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Honestly, I'd just grab a ViewSonic G-Tablet and wait for a port. Woot's tempted me a few times now with dropping them down to $260.

helushune said:
Honestly, I'd just grab a ViewSonic G-Tablet and wait for a port. Woot's tempted me a few times now with dropping them down to $260.
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That's what I did.
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I'll give it a shot...THanks!!!

Ice Cream Sandwich (still not used to the new name) will be the honeycomb+gingerbread mash up for phones. But seriously this is XDA we can do anything. If we had source code there would be honeycomb phone roms popping up left and right with phone apps pulled from gingerbread. The size of the interface can be scaled for lower resolution phones. It can work. For those of us with wives that cant go out and spend money on a tablet without first spending more money on jewelry to bribe with - this rom is a neat way to peek at the latest hotness.

Sense 3.0

Is anyone ever going to port a Sense 3.0 rom for the g2x? I've been really wanting to try it lately
NOOB ALERT
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If they did it would probaly lag pretty bad since sense is a resource whore. Still i'm not saying it wouldn't be nice to see 1 made for our devices.

OMG I love sense
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Sense doesn't make...

Sense would be a huge undertaking for the g2x. HTC sense runs propriety drivers and frameworks. Written to work on HTC hardware. Since the g2x and almost any HTC devices have very little in common that means writing drivers to get it to work. Although not impossible (think hd2 which shared alot of hardware with native Android/HTC phones) it's a huge undertaking and highly unlikely.
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When i had the g2 they ported sense 3.0 to it. Watching the progress of them getting it up and running, it was a HUGE undertaking. Took a huge tightly integrated team and HOURS UPON HOURS UPON HOURS X 20 to get it to work. Our dev community just isn't active enough to undertake something like that sorry

xsteven77x said:
When i had the g2 they ported sense 3.0 to it. Watching the progress of them getting it up and running, it was a HUGE undertaking. Took a huge tightly integrated team and HOURS UPON HOURS UPON HOURS X 20 to get it to work. Our dev community just isn't active enough to undertake something like that sorry
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The G2 was an HTC-Made device... It had a snapdragon processor as well, just like any other HTC Phone.
HTC Sense has been ported to the Galaxy S Devices before, so it IS still possible on Tegra 2 devices.

FatalityBoyZahy said:
The G2 was an HTC-Made device... It had a snapdragon processor as well, just like any other HTC Phone.
HTC Sense has been ported to the Galaxy S Devices before, so it IS still possible on Tegra 2 devices.
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G2 is the HTC vision in Europe where it was released with sense, should
of made it a little easier to port the latest sense to it. As far as sense on the g2x never said it wasn't possible, just said it would be a huge undertaking.
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I would pitch in at least 10$ for someone to port sense 3.0, anyone else?

will748 said:
I would pitch in at least 10$ for someone to port sense 3.0, anyone else?
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i would 5$

bstylz911 said:
i would 5$
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man i dont care to give $20+ if they make a sense 3.0 or 3.5 or LG OVERLAY on the g2x that works good stable. just so we can have another choice of flashing roms that are not stock gingerbread. most of all the roms we have are like that.

If and when I have time I would like to try. I don't care about the money, I can't receive it right now anyway. I just want sense. If you guys want LG UI I think that it wouldn't be too hard, so I'll do that first.

go ahead man were 100% pulling for you

Ya that would be awesome, go ahead and try it
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xsteven77x said:
When i had the g2 they ported sense 3.0 to it. Watching the progress of them getting it up and running, it was a HUGE undertaking. Took a huge tightly integrated team and HOURS UPON HOURS UPON HOURS X 20 to get it to work. Our dev community just isn't active enough to undertake something like that sorry
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Say what? The G2 and Desire Z are virtually the same exact phone and sense was ported to it quicker then you can blink! All they did was change the partitions and remove various apps so sense could fit on the G2's much smaller boot partition.
I'm not trying to imply that the devs did no work, and I for one could never have done it. But, it wasn't thaaaaaat big of a deal. Just sayin'
Source: Had a G2 from launch day.

Do you think it would be possible to base the port off of ports to other Tegra phones?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZr_37WAHvQ
Nexus S can do it so can G2x with LOTS of work probably.

mt3g said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZr_37WAHvQ
Nexus S can do it so can G2x with LOTS of work probably.
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cool video. i know sense 3.0 is out but it would be awesome to see even this one on our g2x

tahahawa said:
If and when I have time I would like to try. I don't care about the money, I can't receive it right now anyway. I just want sense. If you guys want LG UI I think that it wouldn't be too hard, so I'll do that first.
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ill donate to you anyways! haha.
LOOKING FORWARD!

omarsalmin said:
Say what? The G2 and Desire Z are virtually the same exact phone and sense was ported to it quicker then you can blink! All they did was change the partitions and remove various apps so sense could fit on the G2's much smaller boot partition.
I'm not trying to imply that the devs did no work, and I for one could never have done it. But, it wasn't thaaaaaat big of a deal. Just sayin'
Source: Had a G2 from launch day.
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True, but missing one important fact. Both of those phones are htc phones. HTC sense is has it's own custom framework written for htc phones. Much easier than porting it to a non htc phone. (Not saying it can't be done, but don't dismiss it so fast. )

ICS Whats all the hype?

With there being so many nice looking roms out there, whats the hype. I have read about all the features and flash but appearance it is just plain ugly... Which comes back to my question, why deal with a ugly UI for a beta bugged bunch of new features.
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akapaul26 said:
With there being so many nice looking roms out there, whats the hype. I have read about all the features and flash but appearance it is just plain ugly... Which comes back to my question, why deal with a ugly UI for a beta bugged bunch of new features.
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ICS and the 3.0 Linux kernel will actual make the S3 SoC function properly, would you not like for your Sensation's async abilities to function as they were meant?

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ICS and the 3.0 Linux kernel will actual make the S3 SoC function properly, would you not like for your Sensation's async abilities to function as they were meant?
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Well i see it from a finctionality point but the UI in my opinion is terrible...we do have some good devs tho....there is hope i guess.
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akapaul26 said:
With there being so many nice looking roms out there, whats the hype. I have read about all the features and flash but appearance it is just plain ugly... Which comes back to my question, why deal with a ugly UI for a beta bugged bunch of new features.
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I don't really see how the UI is ugly. I'm using InsertCoin ICS and it seems the same except for the bottom dock in the home screen. Still has sense 3.5 but adds the features of ICS.
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funny
I honestly think that all these sense roms look horrible in comparison. i think any rom I have used looks worse i am in love with the ui.

Stock ICS does look better than the one that currently leaked out!
Also..what is S3 SOC async? can you guys explain that one?

Why would you say the appearance of ICS is ugly if you're judging it based off of ROMs that have Sense? What you really mean is that you don't like the appearance of Sense, not ICS.
All the hype behind ICS is that it will hopefully allow the Sensation to make proper use of the processor for the first time. Not a single ROM, dual-core forced or with any other sort of weird bandage fix, makes PROPER use of the Sensation's dual-core. The hope is that ICS has better multi-core support than GB does and that therefore the Sensation will run better and more properly on ICS.

knightsray said:
Stock ICS does look better than the one that currently leaked out!
Also..what is S3 SOC async? can you guys explain that one?
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Scorpion 3 SOC (system on Chip) asynchronous

The Janitor Mop said:
Why would you say the appearance of ICS is ugly if you're judging it based off of ROMs that have Sense? What you really mean is that you don't like the appearance of Sense, not ICS.
All the hype behind ICS is that it will hopefully allow the Sensation to make proper use of the processor for the first time. Not a single ROM, dual-core forced or with any other sort of weird bandage fix, makes PROPER use of the Sensation's dual-core. The hope is that ICS has better multi-core support than GB does and that therefore the Sensation will run better and more properly on ICS.
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But will it REALLY release the power of our Snapdragon cores? I really hope it does but I worry that Googley Bear chose OMAP for the Nexus for a reason. Will there really be the necessary code in place to support all the current multi-core SoCs, or will it be added as needed for new chips going forward? Hope I'm wrong : ) It seemed to me at the press release for ICS that Google spent more time talking about the font than multi-core support.....

newer is better. you can change how the UI looks in 2 minutes.

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newer is better. you can change how the UI looks in 2 minutes.
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+1, Exactly, you could already use the stock ICS launcher and lock screen, also we'll be having the stock settings menu very soon.
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Sense ICS is disgusting. All the glossy, flashy bits...ugh.
AOSP ICS...fantastic! Minimal interface, no old fashioned gloss, and awesome new stock apps (Gmail and Messaging in particular!)

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But will it REALLY release the power of our Snapdragon cores? I really hope it does but I worry that Googley Bear chose OMAP for the Nexus for a reason. Will there really be the necessary code in place to support all the current multi-core SoCs, or will it be added as needed for new chips going forward? Hope I'm wrong : ) It seemed to me at the press release for ICS that Google spent more time talking about the font than multi-core support.....
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Nice one Wazowski. #Roz
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Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas and happy new year in advance to all. Be positive and hope for the best things to come in future. Enjoy vacations for now.

Sense 4.0

Does anyone know if we will be getting a sense 4.0 port
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Officially no. Unofficially hell yea!!!

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Officially no. Unofficially hell yea!!!
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This.
And do you mean ICS (Android 4.0) or SENSE 4.0?
In either case, I have a feeling the Thunderbolt will not be able to run so smoothly as a single core phone, but we'll see.

rajuabju said:
This.
And do you mean ICS (Android 4.0) or SENSE 4.0?
In either case, I have a feeling the Thunderbolt will not be able to run so smoothly as a single core phone, but we'll see.
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Do you really think it will be that bad? im running an alpha version and its a little glitchy, but I attributed that to the fact that its an alpha.

thoward93 said:
Do you really think it will be that bad? im running an alpha version and its a little glitchy, but I attributed that to the fact that its an alpha.
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I dont think its going to be THAT bad. But it's going to be slower than Sense 3.0 or Gingerbread for sure. More features, more CPU/RAM usage, etc..
I am confident the ROM masters around here will cut out all the bloat and crapware, and the Thunderbolt will be capable of running it smoothly enough to be a daily driver... but its still gonna be slower.

rajuabju said:
I dont think its going to be THAT bad. But it's going to be slower than Sense 3.0 or Gingerbread for sure. More features, more CPU/RAM usage, etc..
I am confident the ROM masters around here will cut out all the bloat and crapware, and the Thunderbolt will be capable of running it smoothly enough to be a daily driver... but its still gonna be slower.
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+1 on this post

When do they plan on releasing 4.0 for other phones?

Looks like the Sensation got a port of ICS... Sense version is 3.5 though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1403859

rajuabju said:
I dont think its going to be THAT bad. But it's going to be slower than Sense 3.0 or Gingerbread for sure. More features, more CPU/RAM usage, etc..
I am confident the ROM masters around here will cut out all the bloat and crapware, and the Thunderbolt will be capable of running it smoothly enough to be a daily driver... but its still gonna be slower.
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Google has said any phone capable of running Gingerbread is capable of running ICS. With one core, but no overlays like sense, I wouldn't be surprised to see it run as smooth as the stock tbolt today. The Nexus S runs it pretty well, right?