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I'm on day 29 of my 30 day buyers remorse. Still love the phone but the GPS issues irk me. Also the fact that I paid $199 while others are getting it for free bugged me. So, I dialed 611 and spoke to an agent. They informed me that they are aware of the GPS issue and then transferred me to a acct negotiator rep ( or whatever term they are using).
I explained to them that my 30 days was nearly up and the GPS issue still hasn't been resolved. Also that I was irritated that I paid 199 while other stores were giving the phone away for free. (I then suggested that maybe AT&T gave the phones away because they knew about the GPS issue). I said I was thinking of taking it back and going with a different provider. They then came back and offered my a $199 credit and if I wanted to I could talk to a top level tech about adjusting my GPS. I took the credit but there obviously was no point in talking to the top tier tech rep.
so yea for me, a free Captivate + taxes. And I suppose the GPS fix will be out in a month or so. Really the GPS is the only issue that's bugging me now...
did they have to get into your phone in any way?
if thats the case it might be worth a shot.
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did they have to get into your phone in any way?
if thats the case it might be worth a shot.
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nope. they just said 'thanks for being a loyal customer'... i don't think they can just "get into my phone" anyway, can they? This was all over the phone, I didn't go into a store or anything.
Too bad in Ga the remorse period is only 20 days...didnt work for me
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I tried and didn't work for me. She just said that I will still have an 11 month warranty so if the phone still has problems 11 months from now I can exchange it for a brand new one... for free. I asked her to clarify that I wouldn't need to pay for anything and she said absolutely not. She said she would "note it" on my account that I can exchange the phone for the exact same one for up to the next 11 months.
Darn.. I wanted a free phone though.
Yeah I ended up taking mine back (I paid the full price so I can keep my month to month in case I want to jump at some point), but seeing that we can get them for free makes me think that once Samsung fixes this issue and (hopefully?) we get 2.2 I will go ahead and snag one of these again.
wow they just told me I could not extend the buyers remorse period and that if I don't like the performance of the phone I should return it. and that is that. I said but ATT doesn't have any android phones on par with the captivate... but verizon does and he says then maybe I should go with verizon. if that is what will make me happy because they want happy customers.
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This has really got me thinking hard about jumping ship now... My sister just got an HTC Incredible on Verizon and she loves it.... I know its not quite the galaxy S but hey with a fully functional aGPS and a Froyo update around the corner who is going to notice the difference. Maybe I can family plan it up with her.
There's a bunch of folks that have been doing the same thing, and most HAVE received some kind of credit back. I tried last night, and jumped through a number of hoops, making it almost not even worth all the hassle, but this afternoon I was credited $100 to my account. I've heard anywhere from 100-199. I guess it all depends on the manager you are speaking with at the time.
They technically do not have to give you a credit back, because essentially it is price matching, which they do not do. So hopefully those that are planning on trying, get a customer service rep and or manager that is in a GOOD mood.
What if we bought the phone through best buy? Can we still talk to att about the issue?
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I bought mine through amazon wireless... and yes they asked where I bought it. so it might matter to your success in getting a credit if you went direct through att... If I return I have to return to Amazon and then deal with ATT for the service plan restructure.
the warranty is a year I believe so you can probably do a 1:1 swap as was stated above.
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Just remember that warranty replacements are refurbished units, not new ones...
replacing a year old unit with a refurbished unit sounds good to me.
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What if we bought the phone through best buy? Can we still talk to att about the issue?
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I actually bought mine from best buy. They didn't ask me where I bought it.
I tired and the lady was like totally ignoring what I was saying. She was like well if you want you can take back to the store and get a refund. I was like whatever!
She looked up the GPS issue in the system and all it had was to enable use wireless networks. I was like that only enables cell tower location, doesn't help with GPS issues. System had nothing about a update or anything. So odd you find variations. This was the business premier services too. So tempted to change carriers but after 12 years .... You would think they would take care of you. Last time I called though they gave me 3000 roll over minutes so I guess I can't complain.
You must be like my friend and have an ability with dealing with companies... lol.
sorry to thread jack but where are people getting free captivates from? does anyone know if any of those places allow you to keep your unlimited data plan?
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sorry to thread jack but where are people getting free captivates from? does anyone know if any of those places allow you to keep your unlimited data plan?
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Originally walmart.com (letstalk.com) had it for free and then went to $99. Most places I have seen for $99. tigerdirect.com mypoints.com, cellstore.com, are all $99. I think you can keep your dataplan, one of the sites had a wizard that would check your account, I think it was tigerdirect.
I called them and was able to get a $75 credit to my account. I was out of my 30 days as well. I told them that I used it to log when I go out running, and my routes were choppy and it was recording that I was running mcuh more than I actually was. I made the comment that if it was a $50 phone, like I see it advertised at some places, I wouldn't have as big an issue, but seeing as it was $199, I expect it to work how it's advertised.
I have no issues with my GPS...takes a few seconds to lock on but it's not a big deal to me
I brought this mytouch off Craigslist by trading with my G2. The phone is starting some problems as with not turning the screen on when after a phone call and I got the bad screen on it.
Now I don't know if this phone is stolen or not or the person got it from the insurance by claiming Its lost.
Now do you think T-Mobile will exchnage it? I can't deal with the screen not turning on anymore so yeah.
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I am sure this is the reason the owner sold it in first place, I bet the person gave you lame story about how he changed carrier or got it as gift or some BS and he already has something lol so he didn't need it.
This is why I warn folks about buying jack from eBay or Craigslist when first batch came out month ago that means alot of inferior device that shouldn't have passed QC got though. Your best bet is going via HTC device warranty as TMo itself will not honor yours as they have no proof of this device was valid transaction linked to your account. Also the remorse period is only though TMo not by 3rd party individuals.
Thanks for the reply Mr.HKM, He told me he had 2 of these and he wanted to get rid of it so I'm guessing he used the insurance company to get another by saying it was lost.
Is it worth a shot with T-Mobile? or Should I call up HTC tomrrow and see what they can do? The thing is, I don't want to be left phoneless though, that's the only thing that's going to be bad for me.
Would my best bet be selling it back on Craigslist and getting another one?
I bought my HD2 off craigslist and transfered my insurance to it by calling tmo and asking them if I could. It was originally the insurance I had on my touch pro 2. My nexus one was insured by that other company.
I never had to use it on the hd2 so I don't know how that would work. After I bought the MT4G I had the guy at the store transfer my insurance to it.
Its worth a shot calling tmo. From my experience they are wing willing to work with you.
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Maybe prick got it buy one get one free though adding family members with contract. Best place to buy it now is though TMo as like you I also considered buying it via CL/eBay but after I saw the rate of bad display, ffc, creaky buttons I decide it to just shall out the full $450 and get it without contract. Didn't want the hassle as I lost my HD2 and was left with dumbphone lol trust me its no fun.
Well this is what you can do just skip it all as TMo will not help you so just contact HTC rep and request RMA for it. While you are sending it go to local TMo store and get "loner" phone while its taken care of. You can contact the seller but I am sure the prick will ignore you as kid will be like its your problem now.
Update: Do as MvP77 said then first with TMo it won't hurt long as you get it taken care of if not then you become the prick and get it of your hand ASAP by selling it to someone else lol
Ugh I looked at T-Mobile website about device warranty under T-Mobile and it looks like you cannot transfer warranties from another customer. Pretty much bumed out at this point.
Should I post of on Craigslist asap and get rid of it and buy another one and risk getting a **** screen and or just keep this?
I flashed iced galicer on it and the screen comes on after a call so I'm just worried about the screen for now.
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I have known and helped people who bought through ebay or craigslist get a replacement through T-Mo. It's not a fool proof way but it has worked for some.
First thing is hopefully you are a T-Mo customer? Then don't use the online chat, call them on the phone. Just ask for Tech support. Here is what you are trying to accomplish, you need to get your IMEI # in their system to have a chance. So since this device came out with a OTA (Over the Air update) the same day it launched it is a plus for you. If your IMEI # is not in the system you will never get the update. So when you call and get to the rep just explain to him you are having some problems with very poor battery life and your video chat is not working properly, poor signal etc. Tell him you knew there was a OTA update but you have never received it, and you want to see if this will fix your problems first before deciding on a warranty replacement. If they ask you where you got it tell them you got it from a T-Mobile Store and you bought it full price. Whatever you do don't tell them craigslist. Stay firm on you buying it in a store no matter how many times they ask. Now the above might not even come up but be prepared in case. Noe tell the tech support rep could he please make sure that your IMEI number is correct in their system as you have never received the update. Your number might be in there and it might not. Likely it is not. I had one that was wrong for a whole month from when I changed from my G2. They will ask you for your number and give it to them. If they don't find it they will try to put it in. If the IMEI number is not in their database they will tell you also and ask where you bought it. Stick to the plan. Tell them you don't know why it's not in their system all you did is buy it in their store it should be in the system and you paid full price for it it better be in the system. now I have actually had this happen on one of my early replacements. And I really did get it from a store. They finally said they could manually enter it and override the system. Now if you get this done your almost there. Tell them thank you and you will be waiting for the update and hopefully it fixes the issues if not you will call back. Wait a day or two. The call back and when you here the automated attendant say cancel. This gets you to a higher level rep. Tell the about the problems and you are disappoint that you paid full price and now you have all these problems and the OTA update did not correct them. You are loosing data connection and they stay off for long periods of time. Tell them you have already been to a store and they changed your SIM card and that you have already talked to tech support and factory master reset with them twice and they said it is defective. You said you would give it another chance but it did not get any better. Now hopefully they will process you a exchange and send it to you and then you send yours back..
I hope this help and you get a good one. If all else fails go through HTC.
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I brought this mytouch off Craigslist by trading with my G2. The phone is starting some problems as with not turning the screen on when after a phone call and I got the bad screen on it.
Now I don't know if this phone is stolen or not or the person got it from the insurance by claiming Its lost.
Now do you think T-Mobile will exchnage it? I can't deal with the screen not turning on anymore so yeah.
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Sounds like a software bug. Try a factory reset before you do anything.
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I brought this mytouch off Craigslist by trading with my G2. The phone is starting some problems as with not turning the screen on when after a phone call and I got the bad screen on it.
Now I don't know if this phone is stolen or not or the person got it from the insurance by claiming Its lost.
Now do you think T-Mobile will exchnage it? I can't deal with the screen not turning on anymore so yeah.
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I've bought a few different phones off Craigslist and got them all exchanged through warranty. As long as its still under the manufacturers warranty they should exchange it. All they did was look up the imei to verify its still under warranty. This is my experience with T-Mob, so I don't see why you shouldn't be able to exchange it. Now, if its a stolen or lost phone, they might not. Let us know how it goes for you. Hope you get a good one.
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This is the kind of thing of why i dont want to buy one off ebay or cl, i dont mind but i know it will be a phone i will have for a long time so id rather buy it brand new.
Trust ME
as long as you have insurance which is 5.99 a month for the php bundle then it will cover the phone...just call in do troubleshooting and hey will replace it as long as there not liquid damage or physical damage....u dont pay anything not even shipping and hanlding
Alright, I'm going to give it a shot today.
This took ne at a surprise, I went and logged on to my T-Mobile and it shows the white mytouch as my phone... so I'm guessing they already know I have a mytouch?
so alright thanks for the replies everyone. I'll call in this afternoon and see what the deal is. Thanks.
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rodriguez27 said:
this is the kind of thing of why i dont want to buy one off ebay or cl, i dont mind but i know it will be a phone i will have for a long time so id rather buy it brand new.
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i agree with you 100%
bobsbbq THANK you soo much for that detailed post and everyone else.
I called and told them about the screen not turning back after a phone call, and they went ahead and replaced it for me. I hope I get a good screen and one that turns on after a phone call. Thanks everyone
Told ya. Tmo customer service is excellent. I even got a watered damage G1 replaced.
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I can't express how.much I wanna say thank you. I just hope it comes before this 3 day weekend and with the Sony screen. Thanks guys.
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insurance is crazy 6 bucks a month thats 72 bucks a year on a phone you paid 100 bucks for
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insurance is crazy 6 bucks a month thats 72 bucks a year on a phone you paid 100 bucks for
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For someone like me that switches phones alot and usually pays full or close to full price the insurance its nice. It would suck if it was like sprints insurance where you gotta pay a deductible.
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I think T-Mobile does also make you pay a deductible also. Not sure, but I do change phones a lot and not sure if insurance would cover non T-Mobile phones like the iPhone.
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Lockeskidney not everyone sells there soul by signing 2year contract and having to pay more than its actually worth. Now lets say this as I never considered insurance. I usually buy the device without contract at full price from valid vendor now if I lose it how much is the deductible? I am sure everyone ATM here some how doing insurance fraud false claiming it as lost.
First, I am certain the monkeys on the other side of T-Mobile chat are reading prompts off a computer screen, so I had to go old school and acutally picked up the phone. Just got off the phone with T-Mobile tech rep (that's the first step, get past customer care) who said stop going through warranty exchanges as they are not actually being refurbished - they will still overheat and they will still have screen bleed. Instead, wait until the phone is in stock again and have a new one sent. No QC issues with the new ones and he hinted that when they start shipping they will have GB. He said the phone has been pulled while LG and Google work on "issues".
So if you are having issues and have been throug multiple exchanges, call T-Mobile, have a tech rep note your account to have a new phone shipped once they are available, and start checking every day to see when the phone is shipping again.
I REFUSE to go to Sensation. I think this phone is going to run circles around the Sensation once the kinks are worked out.
thank you for this information
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It works, I did it myself, they will be sending me one.
Yea right. I was asking all over the place for tmobike to send me a brand new G2 instead of 6 refurbished piles of ****. Never did j get a brand new phone they said it would be a luck of the draw to get a new one. I think this Rep was blowing smoke up your ass.
G2x with CM7 and faux ..21 kernel
Actually it will come in a new box direct from manufacturer (new back, new charger, new usb) - There is a restocking fee ($5 if you have insurance)
That sounds like a good idea. I am about to try that now.
Thanks beggars. I may bebyrying this once it actually gets out again, just to see what people say about screen bleed because if it fixes bugs but there's still screen bleed, no point in exchanging it
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I just got done with chat support and am being sent a brand new G2x directly from LG once they get more in.
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when you send yours back will you unroot first?
It would probably be a good idea to
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Every phone I have received has had bleeding issues so I never rooted, but I would highly recommend unrooting before sending back. Also, now that I think about it, the rep never said anything about sending the bunk phone back - just said a new phone in a new box would be coming.
I am wondering if this is how they are going to handle all future exchanges for the G2X - meaning, everyone gets a new phone once they start shipping and the old bunk ones will go back to LG to be refurbed.
I was denied because i am not in my remorse period. Tried calling two times and got the same answer lol, was told i could exchange for a refurb only
I just got off the phone with the loyalty dept and he said I need to return it to the retailer I bought it from...but the retailer doesn't have anymore g2x's in stock, and has no idea when he'll get more. So the loyalty dept said I can void my contract if I wish...that's it...take it or leave it. He also said that T-mobile HAS the update from LG already, but that they are still testing and will not release it until they are 100% confident in it...which he estimates to be in the middle of July.
And the rep I spoke to before him told me that any problems with the phone are the USER's fault because you are NOT supposed to have more than 5 downloaded apps on your phone at any time...you only install more apps when you get bored with the ones you currently have. Ummm..WHAT?!?!?
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And the rep I spoke to before him told me that any problems with the phone are the USER's fault because you are NOT supposed to have more than 5 downloaded apps on your phone at any time...you only install more apps when you get bored with the ones you currently have. Ummm..WHAT?!?!?
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This must be an industry standard line of BS.
I heard the EXACT same statement from a tech in a Verizon store.
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I was denied because i am not in my remorse period. Tried calling two times and got the same answer lol, was told i could exchange for a refurb only
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I am technically outside of my 14 day remorse period (although i am pretty sure if I had to, I could argue that I am not due to a T-Mobile rep telling me I needed a new battery rather than an exchange), but that doesn't matter - I have had 3 warranty exchanges within 90 days so they are sending me a new one if LG starts shipping them again.
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This must be an industry standard line of BS.
I heard the EXACT same statement from a tech in a Verizon store.
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I think they mean desktop....remember windows phone 7 caused a similar uproar with it's live tile statements. I'm thinking 5-7 apps live on the desktop.
A guy at verizon said the samething to me when talking about battery life on droid x 2. He had a droid x. I asked to see his phone. He had dozens....he just laughed...said they are told to say these things.
I have had 1 exchange for very bad screen bleed. My current one has no noticeable bleed unless specifically in Draw! and looking for it. I recently had a couple episodes of the battery refusing to charge/connect via usb until I rebooted the phone. These symptoms appeared after my buyers remorse period was up. Another thing is I bought it at full price and I'm still under my old contract.
It has been getting hot, but not abnormally so to my standards. I could throw that in for good measure.
Do those that have been assured a new phone think my situation will qualify?
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I bought my G2x on 4/20 and it's way past my exchanging date. Is there any way to exchange it still?
I haven't used the insurance option on a new phone in some time. I bought insurance with this phone. I am just curious if they send u cash or a new phone. Would love to get one without screen bleed if it would be possible with the new batch of phones.
I'm within my buyer's remorse period...but in my area, if I drop my tmobile contract, my options are sprint, but the only near-comparable phone is the nexus s, and I'm simply not interested in signing a contract based on that phone right now; verizon, but I don't want to pay $120/month for service (which is $30 more than I pay with Tmobile); or att (same cost as verizon).
If I stay with Tmobile, the only realistic option would be the Sensation...and the problems some people are having with that phone seem to be worse, considering software can't EVER fix a faulty screen that accumulates dust under it.
So I think I'll just make the best with what I've got...looks like I got onboard at the wrong time.
Here's to hoping things get better.
I know it's a dead horse. And some people get have different results. But yesterday I tried to exchange my G2X due to freezing, reboots, and lock ups while on wall charger (running official GB). (This is still my first G2X, my past exchange attempt was to get less screen bleed which failed.)
This time the agent told me they are aware of issues post update install and can do nothing. Then they told me I have to wait until LG has a fix. This is the same results I got when I complained of screen bleed and was denied a replacement due to that.
I usually don't get too excited, but based on principal this is beat. I know it's nothing new to some of you but I'm not sure where to go next. I really want to see if LG will ever own up to this and anything else, but I'm sure my issues are hardware based.
T-Mobile: There is a known issue with this phone after the 2.3 update. At this time, there is no further information I need.
T-Mobile: LG is aware of this issue and are working closely to resolve the issue.
Francis Scardino: ok.
T-Mobile: I am unable to process an exchange for you.
T-Mobile: I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you.
Francis Scardino: So what do I do?
T-Mobile: You would have to wait until LG comes to a resolution for this issue.
Francis Scardino: I was told that last time about the light bleeding through the screen issues. The phone is not really reliable right now and I need it for work and do not have a home phone. There must be another resolution.
T-Mobile: I definitely understand, Francis. However, this phone does have a few known issues. This is the only thing that we can advise you of.
Francis Scardino: That's quite disappointing. I understand you can only do what you are allowed to do, but I have to find some other resolution. I cannot afford for my phone to turn off while charging at night, my job requires 24 hour on call.
Francis Scardino: Is there an escalation contact I can call. I have to come up with something other than buying a new phone. This one is not very old.
Francis Scardino: I just changed my contract to 2 years, and there is no equipment discount. I'm stuck.
T-Mobile: Unfortunately, there is no escalation process for this issue.
T-Mobile: We can set up call forwarding so that whoever calls your cell phone it will go to another phone.
Try to actually go into a T-Mobile store and make a big deal there
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I hate to say it, laissez-faire kinda guy that I am, but we need some kind of consumer protection legislation to prevent this kind of passing the buck.
Get on the phone and call a live person - ask for tech support, not a customer rep.
Sorry to hear that. I am currently on my second (freezing 3x a day) phone and I was offered another G2X exchange but I refused it. I told them they were just passing around refurb junk sent in by other G2X owners. To my surprise, I was offered a full upgrade (Got Tmobile in April 2011 with 2 year contract). It was a customer service rep that actually gave me that. I thought it was bs so I called back a week later to verify that the early full upgrade was noted in my account and it is. I would only be able to get a phone at the Tmobile website or at a corporate store. They said it would be 80% off the retail price. I am waiting for the Samsung Hercules to use that early full upgrade. I'm pretty sure they log every time you called in with notes of the reason of the call. I called in about 5 times (at least) so I think that's why I was offered the early upgrade. I would try calling in again at a different time. Try early morning around 7AM and then 8PM. That way you wont get the same person. You will get different results with different people you speak with. Call them again and good luck.
I was able to get another replacement overnighted to me yesterday... It should be here today. I did it all through the Live Chat online. I told them my phone would shutoff by itself, and it would require a battery pull, and he issued a replacement for me.
If I were you, I would just keep on trying until they offered to send you a replacement. It's worth multiple tries.
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I hate to say it, laissez-faire kinda guy that I am, but we need some kind of consumer protection legislation to prevent this kind of passing the buck.
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And you care about concealing water damage for the purpose of returning it to these thieves? T-Mobile knows for a damn fact there is good G2X's out there. They just don't want to give this gug another one in fear he might get another damaged G2X since it appears to be a 75% chance he would. Exchanging phones cost them money but they could give a **** less that we spent our hard earned money for a phone that we sometimes can't even use.
We signed a contract with T-Mobile and they entered into a contract with us to provide use with products and service as advertised. You see. I believe in a eye for a eye and two wrongs do make a right. You **** me over and I will **** you over twice as bad
Tmobile customer service is going to ****. Hear you have someone who's phone is not working as expected but they don't want to exchange it because it costs them money. T-Mobile knows there are good G2X'w out there. If all of them had problems then every customer who has one would be calling. I don't even care about the merger anymore. Its apparent T-Mobile is prepping for it quite well.
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I will certainly try again. I just can't wonder if this whole debacle will ever bring a full resolution. Is LG working on something? Are they just buying time to phase it out? What will those who have similar results like me have in the future? Will a fully fixed G2x ever hit the shelves..?
Anyone who got a replacement within the last week, what model number phone did you get?
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And you care about concealing water damage for the purpose of returning it to these thieves? T-Mobile knows for a damn fact there is good G2X's out there. They just don't want to give this gug another one in fear he might get another damaged G2X since it appears to be a 75% chance he would. Exchanging phones cost them money but they could give a **** less that we spent our hard earned money for a phone that we sometimes can't even use.
We signed a contract with T-Mobile and they entered into a contract with us to provide use with products and service as advertised. You see. I believe in a eye for a eye and two wrongs do make a right. You **** me over and I will **** you over twice as bad
Tmobile customer service is going to ****. Hear you have someone who's phone is not working as expected but they don't want to exchange it because it costs them money. T-Mobile knows there are good G2X'w out there. If all of them had problems then every customer who has one would be calling. I don't even care about the merger anymore. Its apparent T-Mobile is prepping for it quite well.
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T-Mo doesn't want o give him another phone because they will have to pay for it out of their own pocket. LG will not give you a new phone because they are incompetent manufacturers, along with being liars and thieves, ...while T-Mo simply can't afford to give away phones that they have to pay for.
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T-Mo doesn't want o give him another phone because they will have to pay for it out of their own pocket. LG will not give you a new phone because they are incompetent manufacturers, along with being liars and thieves, ...while T-Mo simply can't afford to give away phones that they have to pay for.
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T-Mobile can afford it. Their a multi billion dollar company. They sold you a phone to use on their network and it is up to them to make sure it works as advertised for 1 year from purchase. After this ends, T-Mobile can try to recupe their losses from LG but its known policy, their responsible for making sure that phone works within the first year providing the damage was not done by the customer. There is no ifs ands or butts about it. It is what it is and their beating around the bush. Do you think the middle class wooing man has enough money to keep buying phones because its provider wont provide him with a working one? This is bad business and you know it. I don't care if returning G2X's placed them into bankruptcy. The customer is always right and they must fix it.
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it is up to them to make sure it works as advertised for 1 year from purchase.
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Incorrect.
The manufacturer is responsible for the warranty in virtually every industry.
Yeah I had no luck with chat support I had to call in when the replacement was bad.
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Incorrect.
The manufacturer is responsible for the warranty in virtually every industry.
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Yes, the manufacture is ultimately responsible for the warranty but it is up to your providor to be the middle man and exchange the phone for you. They then send the defective phone back to the manufacture to be fixed, replaced or reimbursed.
It is up to the company you purchased the phone from to replace the phone. I didn't buy a phone from LG. I gave my money to T-Mobile who purchased the phone from LG. If I purchase the phone through Amazon then I would contact them for a replacement. If I buy a phone from a middle man than I expect that middle man to fulfill their end of the deal by making sure the device they sold me is not defective and can be used as advertised.
Its a very simple concept for anyone to understand. I know this to be the case since T-Mobile, the middle man exchanges multiple phones every single day.
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If you purchase a product from Best Buy or Walmart, and that product fails after the retailer's return policy has expired you are almost certainly responsible for contacting the manufacturer yourself. Most retailers have 30 day or even 14 day return policies depending on the product.
Arguing with you is like shooting fish in a barrel... you haven't made a valid point yet!
This whole G2X thing is garbage anyways.
Three months ago, I called into T-Mobile and did a contract renewal. I ordered 4 G2X's and 1 Defy for my 11 year old daughter...never would I have thought the Defy would be the best device in the bunch. It just works.
I called in within the first week about the phones shutting off, GPS taking over 25 minutes on 1 device to get a lock and was assured its all software and that LG is getting ready to release a software upgrade that will fix the issues, I should have sent them back and been done at that point instead of trusting what T-Mobile told me. Instead I had 4 replacements sent at one time, sent 3 of them back as they were worse than the originals. T-Mobile then sent me 3 more, fail. When I called back I asked to just send them back and was told i was past my 14 day period, even though it was noted on my account that I had called in previously in regards to sending them back and was told about the software update...that didnt change anything.
Next they decided the batteries were bad so they sent me 4 batteries, well that didnt solve a damn thing. They had me at that point contact LG, that got me a big "your a consumer, we cant offer any details on an updated software, but if you like you can send your phones back to us and we will send you replacements or fix the ones you have". Basically no go with that either.
Back to calling T-Mobile as I noticed now I had $100.00 charge on my bill for them sending me replacement phones!! The lines with insurance were only charged 5 bucks, the other 2 were charged $20!! They were unwilling to waive the fee's when I called about them! However they offered me replacement phones again if I wanted, and naturally at $50 bucks shipping again, I said no I wont pay for shipping again and finally got to loyalty and they waived the shipping if I wanted to try again, which knowing it wouldnt help did anyways just for the chance..I was right, it didnt help.
Then finally the wonderful, magical, all ending software update came...ta-da! Finally! Nope, wait. Still have the same issues, just not nearly as often as before. It seems to be about once a day now that one of the phones will shut off randomly, The GPS is a bit better on 3 of the phones but mine, nope. Still takes a good 10 minutes to get a lock.
When I called T-Mobile to tell them this great "fix" they were promising me didnt do a damn thing they said they know, and that the software update had been recalled but LG is currently working on a fix and to just give it time, they would not offer me anymore replacements as it doesnt seem to fix "MY" issues..lol, wtf T-Mobile. Kiss my ass.
I ended up filling a complaint with the BBB, I dont know if it will help or do anything at all but honestly, way I see it is it cant hurt. That was Sunday evening, I dont know how long it takes to hear anything back, or if I will at all but we will see.
T-Mobile use to be awesome, I am an old SunCom customer and when T-Mobile took over SunCom I was leery of what may become of the company I loved, T-Mobile really stepped it up and I had no complaints, recently though they pretty much just suck. I dont know what provider I will go with next but it wont be T-Mobile, yet I hate Verizon, Sprints horrible, AT&T with the merger..maybe I dont need phones anymore lol ffs.
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I will certainly try again. I just can't wonder if this whole debacle will ever bring a full resolution. Is LG working on something? Are they just buying time to phase it out? What will those who have similar results like me have in the future? Will a fully fixed G2x ever hit the shelves..?
Anyone who got a replacement within the last week, what model number phone did you get?
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My replacement just came in about an hour ago with Gingerbread pre-installed. The model number is LG-P999DW. (Checked LG Updated), so it is NOT a refurb!
Dude this is EXACTLY what's happened to me. I've had 4 exchanges and the caller rep said very matter of factly 'Sorry, we can no longer offer you a G2x exchange. Either keep the G2x you have or we'll send you out a comparable phone, the G2.' I got into explaining how that decision doesn't make any sense since I'm holding up my end of the deal by paying my bill...blah, blah, blah. And he said 'The device I'm told I can offer you today is the G2.' By some of the responses, I guess I'll just keep calling in until someone breaks down. I would LOVE to get $$ toward a Hercules, but it sounds like that's the good fortune of who you talk to.
Dude this is EXACTLY what's happened to me. I've had 4 exchanges and the caller rep said very matter of factly 'Sorry, we can no longer offer you a G2x exchange. Either keep the G2x you have or we'll send you out a comparable phone, the G2.' I got into explaining how that decision doesn't make any sense since I'm holding up my end of the deal by paying my bill...blah, blah, blah. And he said 'The device I'm told I can offer you today is the G2.' By some of the responses, I guess I'll just keep calling in until someone breaks down. I would LOVE to get $$ toward a Hercules, but it sounds like that's the good fortune of who you talk to.
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If you purchase a product from Best Buy or Walmart, and that product fails after the retailer's return policy has expired you are almost certainly responsible for contacting the manufacturer yourself. Most retailers have 30 day or even 14 day return policies depending on the product.
Arguing with you is like shooting fish in a barrel... you haven't made a valid point yet!
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Best Buy and Wal-Mart provide you merchandice but not a service. You don't pay them a monthly fee to lease a product from them. If you sign a contract and purchase a phone for the subsidized price, you are pretty much leasing the phone.
T-Mobile has been exchanging devices with the first year since I can remember. Hell, they exchanged 5 G2X's for me and 3 Sensations within the past 4 months. You can provide a service for one of your customers and not the next. An attorney would eat this alive in a court of law. By their POLICY they need to provide you with a working replacement or exchange your device for another comparable one of equal or lesser value. They CANT just tell you to suck it up and keep paying them monthly for something that doesn't work.
I don't understand why you can't comprehend this. Instead you want to compare Best Buy to a mobile service providor which is apples and oranges. Last time I checked. You don't enter into a contract or pay a monthly fee for a service to Best Buy.
Get off Tmobiles nuts and realize your wrong.
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Very interesting discussion...
I can tell you in no uncertain terms that ultimately LG is responsible for the product. The argument that you "Bought" the phone from T-Mobile, or you "leased" the product from T-Mobile is invalid. Your warranty is with LG.
We were all allowed 14 or 30 days to return the phone. Of course most of us held out for the "update/fix" until it was too late to return.
THIS is why I worked to find another remedy to the situation and ultimately had the class action law suit filed.
For any of you wanting further information about the CAL, contact my attorney directly.
http://www.doylelowther.com/class-action-against-lg-electronics-p999g2x/
I have been posting here a little since getting my HTC One X (S4), mostly a little negative as I had been having bad battery and mostly bad reception (which lead to bad battery). I got it on 5/6 and even had the SIM card replaced thinking that was the issue. Data speeds were horrible (I'm in a "4g" area only, no LTE) and would be lucky if I got 1Mbps.
So today I went to Radio Shack and got it replaced. Holy Cow! I just got 3.75Mbps at home, where the most I ever got was just over 1Mbps on the defective one. Went to the gas station, speeds were still great and even in the movie theater I got a solid 2Mbps. My big test will be tonight to see if it still switches to EDGE at night as the old one always did.
TL;DR: If you think you have a defective unit with bad reception/battery, go replace it! And keep replacing it until you're satisfied!
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I have been posting here a little since getting my HTC One X (S4), mostly a little negative as I had been having bad battery and mostly bad reception (which lead to bad battery). I got it on 5/6 and even had the SIM card replaced thinking that was the issue. Data speeds were horrible (I'm in a "4g" area only, no LTE) and would be lucky if I got 1Mbps.
So today I went to Radio Shack and got it replaced. Holy Cow! I just got 3.75Mbps at home, where the most I ever got was just over 1Mbps on the defective one. Went to the gas station, speeds were still great and even in the movie theater I got a solid 2Mbps. My big test will be tonight to see if it still switches to EDGE at night as the old one always did.
TL;DR: If you think you have a defective unit with bad reception/battery, go replace it! And keep replacing it until you're satisfied!
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If only AT&T had them in stock for me to replace mine...
I get 10mb down and up to 3 up at home on hspa+. On lte i get 30 down and up to 30 up. My only issue is with the wifi bug but I'm sure that will be fixed in the upcoming update. Damn i love this phone!
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If only AT&T had them in stock for me to replace mine...
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Exactly!! I have these same issues but not one AT&T store around me has them in stock.
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Tiffany84 said:
Exactly!! I have these same issues but not one AT&T store around me has them in stock.
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Tiff, make sure the manager at the store you frequent knows of you problem and documents it.
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Tiffany84 said:
Exactly!! I have these same issues but not one AT&T store around me has them in stock.
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i had to send mine to htc for warranty repair. didnt want to wait till who knows when for new stock. i dont trust the stores near me. doubt theyd want to use their limited stock for an exchange when they finally get them. id hear some kind of excuse.
Couldn't you guys who got it from AT&T return it and get it from somewhere else?
I'm not sure how that return policy works, like do you get your "upgrade" back if you return the phone? Couldn't you then just keep returning phones every 29 days and always have the latest and greatest? lol
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Couldn't you guys who got it from AT&T return it and get it from somewhere else?
I'm not sure how that return policy works, like do you get your "upgrade" back if you return the phone? Couldn't you then just keep returning phones every 29 days and always have the latest and greatest? lol
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I'm pretty sure they limit your exchanges to two.
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Couldn't you guys who got it from AT&T return it and get it from somewhere else?
I'm not sure how that return policy works, like do you get your "upgrade" back if you return the phone? Couldn't you then just keep returning phones every 29 days and always have the latest and greatest? lol
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no...
clearly there are some devices out there with issues. Glad you were able to get yours replaced and are humming along. Now you need to get to an LTE are to see what speeds you get.
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Couldn't you guys who got it from AT&T return it and get it from somewhere else?
I'm not sure how that return policy works, like do you get your "upgrade" back if you return the phone? Couldn't you then just keep returning phones every 29 days and always have the latest and greatest? lol
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they limit to one exchange within 30 days. if you return the phone to get your upgrade back, you must pay a $35 restocking fee.
they've planned ahead for people like you!
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they limit to one exchange within 30 days. if you return the phone to get your upgrade back, you must pay a $35 restocking fee.
they've planned ahead for people like you!
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Problem is that they're greedy and want restocking fee regardless of exchange or return. So now it doesn't make sense to exchange. Return it and buy the other one.
It's not being sneaky or cheap. ATT just has a greedy, bad business practice.
Bought a 3gs and exchanged it for the HOX. HOX was bad took it back literally a day or two later. They said too bad. No exchange. I had to go through warranty repair. HTC was shocked that my phone was purchased days before and they sent me to them for an exchange instead of doing so in store.
Auto sales aren't even done that way anymore. Worst part was the store manager was giving me the whole ATT did me a courtesy speech for allowing the first exchange. What courtesy? I paid $35, got a different phone and it was defective and you told me to bad, talk to HTC.
While I'm on a roll I might as well keep going. Another issue I ran into during this ordeal was that I needed to return to the original place of purchase...what difference does it make if it was a corp. store?
Done with my rant...Sorry
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Problem is that they're greedy and want restocking fee regardless of exchange or return. So now it doesn't make sense to exchange. Return it and buy the other one.
It's not being sneaky or cheap. ATT just has a greedy, bad business practice.
Bought a 3gs and exchanged it for the HOX. HOX was bad took it back literally a day or two later. They said too bad. No exchange. I had to go through warranty repair. HTC was shocked that my phone was purchased days before and they sent me to them for an exchange instead of doing so in store.
Auto sales aren't even done that way anymore. Worst part was the store manager was giving me the whole ATT did me a courtesy speech for allowing the first exchange. What courtesy? I paid $35, got a different phone and it was defective and you told me to bad, talk to HTC.
While I'm on a roll I might as well keep going. Another issue I ran into during this ordeal was that I needed to return to the original place of purchase...what difference does it make if it was a corp. store?
Done with my rant...Sorry
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wow, you have every right to rant after an experience like that! I'm sorry you got treated that way. Just to set the record straight, though, that's absolutely NOT company policy for AT&T corporate-owned stores. Since your One X was DOA, you should not have to pay a restocking fee. I worked for AT&T Retail until a couple weeks ago, and we wouldn't have done that... sounds like you ran up against greedy, bad people.
Oh yeah, and it doesn't master where you return it. As long as it's a corporate store. Are you sure the second place wasn't an authorized retailer? Either that, or they only had one or two left in stock.
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When dealing with att, its always a good practice to deal with corporate stores only. And that is sometimes hard to tell the difference...99% of the corporate stores will do the right thing..when buying phones I use best buy because they are usually a little cheaper but more so that they offer a $0 deductible warranty and a $30 buyback program where they offer you at least $125 in 2 Yeats towards purchase of new phone..can trade before 2 years and get even bigger credit towards new phone..$125 is just the least you will get...well worth the $30 l. Just my 2 cents..
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The day I got it, I looked at mine and said...whoa.
The camera bezel isn't flush with the phone.
I'm NOT DUMB. I know it sticks out. - that's what the guy at AT&T said to me...what an idiot...
I mean like...where the bezel is set into the device, it sticks out a little.
Not to mention, I unlocked the device this morning to notice that the backlight of the recent apps button? Doesn't work anymore.
Needless to say, I emailed them about a possibly warranty replacement.
I LOVE the device - it's amazing! But...I don't think I can live with that when I paid for it outright...
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Problem is that they're greedy and want restocking fee regardless of exchange or return. So now it doesn't make sense to exchange. Return it and buy the other one.
It's not being sneaky or cheap. ATT just has a greedy, bad business practice.
Bought a 3gs and exchanged it for the HOX. HOX was bad took it back literally a day or two later. They said too bad. No exchange. I had to go through warranty repair. HTC was shocked that my phone was purchased days before and they sent me to them for an exchange instead of doing so in store.
Auto sales aren't even done that way anymore. Worst part was the store manager was giving me the whole ATT did me a courtesy speech for allowing the first exchange. What courtesy? I paid $35, got a different phone and it was defective and you told me to bad, talk to HTC.
While I'm on a roll I might as well keep going. Another issue I ran into during this ordeal was that I needed to return to the original place of purchase...what difference does it make if it was a corp. store?
Done with my rant...Sorry
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whoa! that's crazy! I got mine at radio shack and they did tell me that I was "suppose" to go back to the store I bought it at, but that was 250 miles away so she did it anyways. but the craziest part was that I actually got about 20 bucks back because the price of the phone had gone down. I paid no restocking fee either. based on all the stories I don't think I'll ever buy straight from att.