Thanks for the $199 credit AT&T - Captivate General

I'm on day 29 of my 30 day buyers remorse. Still love the phone but the GPS issues irk me. Also the fact that I paid $199 while others are getting it for free bugged me. So, I dialed 611 and spoke to an agent. They informed me that they are aware of the GPS issue and then transferred me to a acct negotiator rep ( or whatever term they are using).
I explained to them that my 30 days was nearly up and the GPS issue still hasn't been resolved. Also that I was irritated that I paid 199 while other stores were giving the phone away for free. (I then suggested that maybe AT&T gave the phones away because they knew about the GPS issue). I said I was thinking of taking it back and going with a different provider. They then came back and offered my a $199 credit and if I wanted to I could talk to a top level tech about adjusting my GPS. I took the credit but there obviously was no point in talking to the top tier tech rep.
so yea for me, a free Captivate + taxes. And I suppose the GPS fix will be out in a month or so. Really the GPS is the only issue that's bugging me now...

did they have to get into your phone in any way?
if thats the case it might be worth a shot.

iamamp3pimp said:
did they have to get into your phone in any way?
if thats the case it might be worth a shot.
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nope. they just said 'thanks for being a loyal customer'... i don't think they can just "get into my phone" anyway, can they? This was all over the phone, I didn't go into a store or anything.

Too bad in Ga the remorse period is only 20 days...didnt work for me
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I tried and didn't work for me. She just said that I will still have an 11 month warranty so if the phone still has problems 11 months from now I can exchange it for a brand new one... for free. I asked her to clarify that I wouldn't need to pay for anything and she said absolutely not. She said she would "note it" on my account that I can exchange the phone for the exact same one for up to the next 11 months.
Darn.. I wanted a free phone though.

Yeah I ended up taking mine back (I paid the full price so I can keep my month to month in case I want to jump at some point), but seeing that we can get them for free makes me think that once Samsung fixes this issue and (hopefully?) we get 2.2 I will go ahead and snag one of these again.

wow they just told me I could not extend the buyers remorse period and that if I don't like the performance of the phone I should return it. and that is that. I said but ATT doesn't have any android phones on par with the captivate... but verizon does and he says then maybe I should go with verizon. if that is what will make me happy because they want happy customers.
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This has really got me thinking hard about jumping ship now... My sister just got an HTC Incredible on Verizon and she loves it.... I know its not quite the galaxy S but hey with a fully functional aGPS and a Froyo update around the corner who is going to notice the difference. Maybe I can family plan it up with her.

There's a bunch of folks that have been doing the same thing, and most HAVE received some kind of credit back. I tried last night, and jumped through a number of hoops, making it almost not even worth all the hassle, but this afternoon I was credited $100 to my account. I've heard anywhere from 100-199. I guess it all depends on the manager you are speaking with at the time.
They technically do not have to give you a credit back, because essentially it is price matching, which they do not do. So hopefully those that are planning on trying, get a customer service rep and or manager that is in a GOOD mood.

What if we bought the phone through best buy? Can we still talk to att about the issue?
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I bought mine through amazon wireless... and yes they asked where I bought it. so it might matter to your success in getting a credit if you went direct through att... If I return I have to return to Amazon and then deal with ATT for the service plan restructure.
the warranty is a year I believe so you can probably do a 1:1 swap as was stated above.
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Just remember that warranty replacements are refurbished units, not new ones...

replacing a year old unit with a refurbished unit sounds good to me.

acandia007 said:
What if we bought the phone through best buy? Can we still talk to att about the issue?
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I actually bought mine from best buy. They didn't ask me where I bought it.

I tired and the lady was like totally ignoring what I was saying. She was like well if you want you can take back to the store and get a refund. I was like whatever!
She looked up the GPS issue in the system and all it had was to enable use wireless networks. I was like that only enables cell tower location, doesn't help with GPS issues. System had nothing about a update or anything. So odd you find variations. This was the business premier services too. So tempted to change carriers but after 12 years .... You would think they would take care of you. Last time I called though they gave me 3000 roll over minutes so I guess I can't complain.
You must be like my friend and have an ability with dealing with companies... lol.

sorry to thread jack but where are people getting free captivates from? does anyone know if any of those places allow you to keep your unlimited data plan?

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sorry to thread jack but where are people getting free captivates from? does anyone know if any of those places allow you to keep your unlimited data plan?
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Originally walmart.com (letstalk.com) had it for free and then went to $99. Most places I have seen for $99. tigerdirect.com mypoints.com, cellstore.com, are all $99. I think you can keep your dataplan, one of the sites had a wizard that would check your account, I think it was tigerdirect.

I called them and was able to get a $75 credit to my account. I was out of my 30 days as well. I told them that I used it to log when I go out running, and my routes were choppy and it was recording that I was running mcuh more than I actually was. I made the comment that if it was a $50 phone, like I see it advertised at some places, I wouldn't have as big an issue, but seeing as it was $199, I expect it to work how it's advertised.

I have no issues with my GPS...takes a few seconds to lock on but it's not a big deal to me

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Captivate is now 1 CENT!!

Friend just emailed me....the Captivate is now just 1 cent. Not a bad deal, eh?
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This is Amazon, much like WireFly,LetsTak and any other reseller they can price the phone at whatever price theyd like since they make comission off the monthly plans more so than the actual hardware. Theyll take a big hit ($200-$300) on the phone in order to make it back up with the plan.
BTW this is for new contracts only via Amazon, renewals are still $99 and Family is $149.
I just ordered one from Amazon for a penny. So long Sprint and so long samsung moment (blech)
I ordered mine from Amazon along with 3 other phones on a new family plan with 1400 minutes. Total cost after shipping: $.04.
makes me feel I made a mistake getting the phone in the first place. Good thing I like the phone.
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iamamp3pimp said:
makes me feel I made a mistake getting the phone in the first place. Good thing I like the phone.
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Why would you feel like you made a mistake getting the phone if you like it just b/c the price went down? Hell, I paid $175 for mine (Family plan upgrade-secondary line) and I'm still happy with my purchase. I agree that it is annoying to see them offer such good deals for new users and screw over "loyal" customers though...
AT&T charged me $100, they gave me the $100 discount for being a loyal customer. Funny thing is i joined when the iPhone 3G came out.
I tried to get my wife to get it for 1 cent but she insists on getting the EVO, loyal yo sprint.
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logicrulez said:
AT&T charged me $100, they gave me the $100 discount for being a loyal customer. Funny thing is i joined when the iPhone 3G came out.
I tried to get my wife to get it for 1 cent but she insists on getting the EVO, loyal yo sprint.
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Loyal enough to pay 240 dollars more over the length of her contract? I've been with Sprint for 5 years and I'm not THAT loyal to them
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Why would you feel like you made a mistake getting the phone if you like it just b/c the price went down? Hell, I paid $175 for mine (Family plan upgrade-secondary line) and I'm still happy with my purchase. I agree that it is annoying to see them offer such good deals for new users and screw over "loyal" customers though...
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To be fair Amazon's a dealer like Wirefly. They make nothing on the sale of phones but get paid on selling the contracts. The Captivate is 99 dollars if you are renewing or adding a line on Amazon. Still a better deal than anywhere else. As a NEW AT&T customer I would have spent $199 on the phone at the AT&T store. I was all about to buy a Vibrant yesterday for 70 bucks on Amazon when I found the penny deal on the Captivate. So here I am.
Difference is, when you buy it from the AT&T store, they cover your warranty for the year - and their warranty is great.
If you buy it anywhere else, you have to deal with Samsung directly unless you get lucky and AT&T ships you a replacement regardless.
wildkarrde21 said:
Why would you feel like you made a mistake getting the phone if you like it just b/c the price went down? Hell, I paid $175 for mine (Family plan upgrade-secondary line) and I'm still happy with my purchase. I agree that it is annoying to see them offer such good deals for new users and screw over "loyal" customers though...
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Not so much a mistake, I am happy with my purchase. It's just the price that we pay to get the best in tech before everyone else.
I've never done that before, and used to tout that my motorola karma was pretty much the same thing as a smartphone.
Obviously I had no clue what I was talking about.
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Difference is, when you buy it from the AT&T store, they cover your warranty for the year - and their warranty is great.
If you buy it anywhere else, you have to deal with Samsung directly unless you get lucky and AT&T ships you a replacement regardless.
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Now THAT I dodn't know. Guess I'll be adding insurance.
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Now THAT I dodn't know. Guess I'll be adding insurance.
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It's what I was told from AT&T and when I spoke to Letstalk, Wifefly and so on. But FWIW, people have stated that they just called AT&T and they sent them a replacement - but that could just be a YMMV. I would try to verify as well before you add insurance in case you don't need to.
But for $.01, I'm jealous!
Amazon has such a great rep that I doubt they'd have entered the Wireless sales business without some assurances from carriers. Wirefly has a shady rep from what I was able to google.
i paid full retail cause i wasnt up for upgrade... and thats for two phones too.. -_-. bye 1000
The thing many of you guys are not realizing is that this price and other similar deals are for completely new accounts only. Upgrades or even new family plan lines will bump up the price to $100-150. Under the circumstances most of the people I know who paid for Captivates, they wouldn't have saved any more money if they had waited, as everyone I know who has a Captivate was already an AT&T customer.
And quite frankly, while the Captivate is a great phone, it's not worth putting up with AT&T over if you're on a good carrier, especially since there is/will be a Galaxy S for all major carriers.
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JPS81 said:
The thing many of you guys are not realizing is that this price and other similar deals are for completely new accounts only. Upgrades or even new family plan lines will bump up the price to $100-150. Under the circumstances most of the people I know who paid for Captivates, they wouldn't have saved any more money if they had waited, as everyone I know who has a Captivate was already an AT&T customer.
And quite frankly, while the Captivate is a great phone, it's not worth putting up with AT&T over if you're on a good carrier, especially since there is/will be a Galaxy S for all major carriers.
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This man speaks the truth. Listen to his words. And get him a beer!
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Amazon has such a great rep that I doubt they'd have entered the Wireless sales business without some assurances from carriers. Wirefly has a shady rep from what I was able to google.
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True, but reading through Amazons policy, they only support the phone for 30 days - as do all online retailers besides AT&T itself (they have a full year). Other online retailers pass the warranty to Samsung. But for the period Amazon does cover it - they have great customer service.
I'm not saying that's bad as I never dealt with Samsung for warranty purposes. I just know that AT&T deals with warranty issues very well. But regardless, $.01 for this phone is an amazing deal. The chance of needing a replacement post-30 days might not even occur for you - and if it does - you can always try AT&T for replacement.

2 seconds from canceling tmobile..

Ill give the short version... preordered on the 15th. told i'd get today. rep NEVER told me i needed to sign some email for verification. Email was sent to some god awful old address i dont even use. all that was offered was a $10 credit. Ive been w/ tmobile since like 02' and thats the best they can do??. call back and he can give a free month but only if i extend for 2 yrs....no thanks. So now i have to go to the store tomorrow and wait another day to get the phone. Oh ya btw i dropped my current phone in the toilet and it doesnt work so i have no phone @ the moment. im so livid I cant even see straight...... seriously considering another carrier just off of principle alone..
Call and talk to customer retention... They'll do much better.
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both offers WERE from retention...i thought they could do much better as well.
Wait, what email? I received no email. Did you get tracking info?
Retention's not doing deals like they used to. I got a G2 from them for $249 with 16 months left on my contract. For the G2X they (mutiple agents) told me if I wanted to go to VZW, maybe I should. My average bill per month for the past 12 months is $350ish because of international roaming. Once the AT&T deal closes I'm going to take their advice and move back to VZW. By then, VZW will have LTE well implemented and a dual-core Android worldphone. With high-value post paid customer gone, T-Mobile can focus all thier attention on $29 per month prepaid customers which, based on CSR attitude, is what they'd prefer.
They did the 249 for me on 2 g2x. I was at the sprint store.
I would of had a deposit on sprint. So it evened out.
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Wait, what email? I received no email. Did you get tracking info?
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it was an email with a "electronic signature" link that needed to be clicked to confirm the phone. i mean I confirmed my full social, secret code, billing AND shipping address. I dont see why this was even needed. I received no tracking info because it was never shipped.
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Retention's not doing deals like they used to....... cont'd
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it seems like your right. I mean lets be serious. they KNOW i want the phone. hell I already bought accesorries for it so ya I am going to get it. its just how they went about the whole thing was so wrong i could not believe i was speaking with tmobile. The last guy who offered the free month w/ 2yr extension @ one point said " what do you want us to do?" and not in a helpful way. Like a "we dont care if you cancel;good riddance" kind of way. im still in shock over the whole thing. But its like im trapped. either shake this off and get the phone or go with another carrier, get charged an ETF for breaking contract then getting a higher bill with AT&T, sprint ,etc.
I had a $400 flexpay available which I took... There was on ONLINE form which required me to type in my name.
The only email I got was that my payment went through and it shipped.
Mine said it was supposed to be here Monday so I sold my N1 online. I called last night because it hadn't arrived nor had UPS showed it was even shipped. The lady on the phone told me that online orders were "pre-orders" and the phone wasn't even supposed to ship until Wednesday. I had her and her manager go to the website and tell me where, anywhere, did it say a preorder. I also said people were getting them already and they "assured" me that no one was getting them yet.
I actually had the supervisor cancel the order because I said I'd rather pick it up Wednesday rather then have it ship Wednesday. 20 minutes after I got off the phone, UPS showed it was picked up and scheduled for next day delivery. So I don't even know if they cancelled it or just got it shipped.
Just cancel it and pick one up at the store tomorrow. At this point it isn't even worth fighting with them to get it shipped. I ordered mine Friday with standard shipping and I just got mine a few minutes ago.
Customer retention did me right on today. To make a long story short I have had problems with my Vibrant since day one back in July. From the GPS to the freezing and reboots. T-Mobile has sent me 5 Vibrants since August and when I called on today I asked to speak with a manager. I told them I would like to cancel my account because I spent $500 on a phone and they have done nothing to fix it for me. I told them I tried every GPS fix known to man but none of them worked to my standards. I play golf and use Skydroid so I need the GPS to be pretty damn accurate. It worked fine on my N1 and MyTouch 3g. She then said "I can give you a $200 credit if you upgrade your device." I told her if she looked at my account I haven't been under contract with them for 3 years and have purchased my last 4 devices off contract so what makes you think I want to sign a 2 year contract now with this AT&T merger looming around. She asked me how they could keep me as a customer and I asked her what the value of my used Vibrant was. She told me $354. I then said, "the only way I will remain a T-Mobile customer is if they buy my Vibrant back for $354 and I purchase a G2x off contact for the difference". She put me on hold for 5 minutes and came back and said they would be willing to do that and would ship my G2x tomorrow and after I receive it I have 7 days to return my Vibrant. She even asked me if I would like to pay for the G2x right now or just add the cost to my bill. I chose to pay it now and should have a G2x in my hand by Friday for less than what people are paying to upgrade. Big deal, my Vibrant is gone but I got two cores of goodness for a little over $150 off contract.
Ask for a rep to come bring you a phone immediately. That's how you only paid $100 for the phone with no contract right?
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Customer retention did me right on today. To make a long story short I have had problems with my Vibrant since day one back in July. From the GPS to the freezing and reboots. T-Mobile has sent me 5 Vibrants since August and when I called on today I asked to speak with a manager. I told them I would like to cancel my account because I spent $500 on a phone and they have done nothing to fix it for me. I told them I tried every GPS fix known to man but none of them worked to my standards. I play golf and use Skydroid so I need the GPS to be pretty damn accurate. It worked fine on my MyTouch 3g. She then said "I can give you a $200 credit if you upgrade your device." I told her if she looked at my account I haven't been under contract with them for 3 years and have purchased my last 4 devices off contract so what makes you think I want to sign a 2 year contract now with this AT&T merger looming around. She asked me how they could keep me as a customer and I asked her what the value of my used Vibrant was. She told me $354. I then said, "the only way I will remain a T-Mobile customer is if they buy my Vibrant back for $354 and I purchase a G2x off contact for the difference". She put me on hold for 5 minutes and came back and said they would be willing to do that and would ship my G2x tomorrow and after I receive it I have 7 days to return my Vibrant. She even asked me if I would like to pay for the G2x right now or just add the cost to my bill. I chose to pay it now and should have a G2x in my hand by Friday for less than what people are paying to upgrade. Big deal, my Vibrant is gone but I got two cores of goodness for a little over $150 off contract.
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Awesome. This is what retention is meant for. You had a real serious legitimate issue and were considering cancelling. The people that are saying retention isn't doing what they used to are likely people that threaten to cancel whenever they want to get something. T-Mobile sees your history and how often you talk to retention or get deals from them. Eventually they will just call your bluff.
uploder said:
it was an email with a "electronic signature" link that needed to be clicked to confirm the phone. i mean I confirmed my full social, secret code, billing AND shipping address. I dont see why this was even needed. I received no tracking info because it was never shipped.
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Blame your state. That's why this is in place. What other carrier lets you split your phone up in payments? I'll go with.... none. It was their fault for not checking the email addy but come on it is only one more day.
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BarryH_GEG said:
Retention's not doing deals like they used to. I got a G2 from them for $249 with 16 months left on my contract. For the G2X they (mutiple agents) told me if I wanted to go to VZW, maybe I should. My average bill per month for the past 12 months is $350ish because of international roaming. Once the AT&T deal closes I'm going to take their advice and move back to VZW. By then, VZW will have LTE well implemented and a dual-core Android worldphone. With high-value post paid customer gone, T-Mobile can focus all thier attention on $29 per month prepaid customers which, based on CSR attitude, is what they'd prefer.
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That's the full discounted price of the phone, so sounds like a good deal they gave you, but they should never had told u to go back to VZW, they should have went thru the bill and lowered it and also gave you an unlock code for your current phone so when you roam internationally you can just grab a pre-paid sim from where ever you are for way cheaper prices.
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Awesome. This is what retention is meant for. You had a real serious legitimate issue and were considering cancelling. The people that are saying retention isn't doing what they used to are likely people that threaten to cancel whenever they want to get something. T-Mobile sees your history and how often you talk to retention or get deals from them. Eventually they will just call your bluff.
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i completely agree however im not one of those people who call and complain for every little issue. truth is ive NEVER had an issue with tmobile until this happened. 1st time ever threatening to cancel and 1st time speaking w/ retention.
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but come on it is only one more day.
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the only reason its an issue is because i have no phone @ the moment. (see 1st post) so in the rare case that there was an emergency and I needed a phone id be screwed.If i did still have a phone i'd be annoyed but would have just took it for what it is. A retarded mixup on their part. Which is what im doing
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i completely agree however im not one of those people who call and complain for every little issue. truth is ive NEVER had an issue with tmobile until this happened. 1st time ever threatening to cancel and 1st time speaking w/ retention.
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I definitely wasn't calling you out specifically, more just a general statement, or if anyone specifically it was Barry that said they aren't doing what they used to.
Regarding your situation, if they offered you a free month, that is usually the most retention will give as far as financial credits, and it will always require a 2 year contract from my experience (in customer care, not as a customer threatening to cancel).
You really want to go to some crap company over a couple days, when you are the one who ruined your other phone?? And if you are buying this, I am sure you can afford to spend $20 for a prepaid at walmart to give you the basic functionality that is essential. Geesh
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it was an email with a "electronic signature" link that needed to be clicked to confirm the phone. i mean I confirmed my full social, secret code, billing AND shipping address. I dont see why this was even needed. I received no tracking info because it was never shipped.
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I was still in contract with 10 months to go for a full upgrade. When I called, I asked about the upgrade. When the CSR told me I didn't qualify for the upgrade I immediately asked how much it would be just to cancel the service. She said "$200" and my reply to her was "Thats it? I may as well just do that then." She right away offered me a full upgrade.
I too had to go along with the electronic signature but my CSR was nice enough to ask me what email to send it to and let me know when it was coming. I feel for you, man. It's a shame that most companies are straying away from quality customer service, especially with consumers that have been long term with the company. I guarantee if you were a new customer, they would have bent over backwards for you.
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the only reason its an issue is because i have no phone @ the moment. (see 1st post) so in the rare case that there was an emergency and I needed a phone id be screwed.If i did still have a phone i'd be annoyed but would have just took it for what it is. A retarded mixup on their part. Which is what im doing
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How have you been with tmo that long and don't have a phone laying around? I have at least 3 that I could dig up and throw a sim in.
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T-Mobile in store restocking fee $75...Yikes!

Hi everyone....
So for ****s and giggles I called the local T-Mobile store here in Portland, OR to see if they had Sensations in stock and to to see what it would cost to exchange.
They told me there would be a $75 restocking fee.....???
Yowzer!
Curious what anyone else has had to pay regarding a restocking fee. The other threads about this subject here on XDA seem to be no where near that price....$10...$30 etc.
Is that normal for TMo??
Thanks!
30..... thats high bro lol probably because so many are going back for exchanges
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Hoggles said:
Hi everyone....
So for ****s and giggles I called the local T-Mobile store here in Portland, OR to see if they had Sensations in stock and to to see what it would cost to exchange.
They told me there would be a $75 restocking fee.....???
Yowzer!
Curious what anyone else has had to pay regarding a restocking fee. The other threads about this subject here on XDA seem to be no where near that price....$10...$30 etc.
Is that normal for TMo??
Thanks!
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I heard they upped it to 50 i think they are smoking the the mowi wowie with a little labrador in it. and trying to pocket 25 for his store.
HAHAHAHA.....
Why does it have to be this way....
Customer Care says..."it's a $50 restock on smartphones. Tablets are $75".
TMobile Store says, "whoops".... reluctantly.
I say I want to exchange my G2X for either another G2X with no bleed or a Sensation...Customer Service says...."Sure! Screen Bleed = defective device.... Restocking fee is waived on a defective devices".
I say great!! Thank you so much!!
TMobile Store says...."Yeah! We got both devices in stock....come and down!" "Oh, there will still be a restocking fee though. Sorry. You have to call Customer Care and have them put in the notes that it's been waived."
Customer Care says...."it's now in the notes. Fee waived. Sorry for the trouble, have a nice day."
Why so difficult. Get on the same page you idiots....
T-Mobile upped the price because of all the people that were getting the phones to just try them and return them. It happens a lot at my store. T-Mobile loses a lot of money from ppl doing this. If something is wrong you are not charged anything for a return. non smart phones are $25, Smart phones are $50, Tablets are $75. I do like this as I hate seeing people just buying phones to try them and nothing more. If you buy a phone you buy it because you want it. If you want to return it for no reason or because something new comes out deal with the restocking fee. You should of looked into the device more before you bought it. Also every rep in my Store tells ppl about the restocking fee before they sign the contract renewal and if you don't like it don't buy the phone then. I do the research on a phone before i buy it so i know if i am returning it, it is because something is wrong with it.
You that doesn't always work. I researched my phone for 3weeks
Did not consider any LG. Settled on a Droid X2. Spent a hour in the store. Got home tried it for 3 hours....hated it. Returned it...
Went to tmo to look at a sensation...and saw a g2x...end of story.
So even with research, it cost me $35
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T-Mobile upped the price because of all the people that were getting the phones to just try them and return them. It happens a lot at my store. T-Mobile loses a lot of money from ppl doing this. If something is wrong you are not charged anything for a return. non smart phones are $25, Smart phones are $50, Tablets are $75. I do like this as I hate seeing people just buying phones to try them and nothing more. If you buy a phone you buy it because you want it. If you want to return it for no reason or because something new comes out deal with the restocking fee. You should of looked into the device more before you bought it. Also every rep in my Store tells ppl about the restocking fee before they sign the contract renewal and if you don't like it don't buy the phone then. I do the research on a phone before i buy it so i know if i am returning it, it is because something is wrong with it.
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I disagree, I did plenty of research before buying this pile of poo. I played with it several times before I bought it.
When the threads started popping up about reboots I thought you guys were crazy and just got bad phones. Two weeks ago my phone reset while making a call. I blew it off as a fluke. Since then it happens on average every other day with some days worse than others. Still since then my GPS takes 10-15 minutes to find me. I paid cash for this crap from the dealer and would like them to work harder to get an update asap.
My remorse period ended before two weeks ago.
So should I have seen this coming?
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You can't properly see how good or bad a device is until you use it for a few days. These restocking fees are bull****. They should let you do one for free. After that than charge 50 bucks.
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Hoggles said:
Hi everyone....
So for ****s and giggles I called the local T-Mobile store here in Portland, OR to see if they had Sensations in stock and to to see what it would cost to exchange.
They told me there would be a $75 restocking fee.....???
Yowzer!
Curious what anyone else has had to pay regarding a restocking fee. The other threads about this subject here on XDA seem to be no where near that price....$10...$30 etc.
Is that normal for TMo??
Thanks!
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FYI T-mobile instituted an exchange program that many are not aware of you since its pretty new. has to be a WORKING SMARTPHONE but the trade it towards a new phone is 150-300 depending on the your trade in and what they can do with it. might be something to consider. i got this info from one of those screenshots of a tmobile email/newsletter picture i saw online a few weeks ago. many reps aren't aware of it yet because no one seems to have tried out this new policy. google for a bit and you'll find it. i think it was a Tmonews.com
on the restocking fee... thats ****in bogus bud. no way should they be saying that. seems way to high. 25 or 35 bucks i understand for brand new devices being returned (and they raised the G2x price another $50 anyways so there's some resale $ for them). i find you can always talk them down. one way or another. in fact i have a brand new htc sensation 4g coming to my house in 3 days, for FREE, rush delivered FREE, and i don't have to give them my g2x. i get to keep it. guess they don't want them back cuz i an arranged previously with 2 reps to echange it but then today they said "nah its cool. just keep the G2x as well" *****en.........

TMO denied me an exchange, blames LG completely

I know it's a dead horse. And some people get have different results. But yesterday I tried to exchange my G2X due to freezing, reboots, and lock ups while on wall charger (running official GB). (This is still my first G2X, my past exchange attempt was to get less screen bleed which failed.)
This time the agent told me they are aware of issues post update install and can do nothing. Then they told me I have to wait until LG has a fix. This is the same results I got when I complained of screen bleed and was denied a replacement due to that.
I usually don't get too excited, but based on principal this is beat. I know it's nothing new to some of you but I'm not sure where to go next. I really want to see if LG will ever own up to this and anything else, but I'm sure my issues are hardware based.
T-Mobile: There is a known issue with this phone after the 2.3 update. At this time, there is no further information I need.
T-Mobile: LG is aware of this issue and are working closely to resolve the issue.
Francis Scardino: ok.
T-Mobile: I am unable to process an exchange for you.
T-Mobile: I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you.
Francis Scardino: So what do I do?
T-Mobile: You would have to wait until LG comes to a resolution for this issue.
Francis Scardino: I was told that last time about the light bleeding through the screen issues. The phone is not really reliable right now and I need it for work and do not have a home phone. There must be another resolution.
T-Mobile: I definitely understand, Francis. However, this phone does have a few known issues. This is the only thing that we can advise you of.
Francis Scardino: That's quite disappointing. I understand you can only do what you are allowed to do, but I have to find some other resolution. I cannot afford for my phone to turn off while charging at night, my job requires 24 hour on call.
Francis Scardino: Is there an escalation contact I can call. I have to come up with something other than buying a new phone. This one is not very old.
Francis Scardino: I just changed my contract to 2 years, and there is no equipment discount. I'm stuck.
T-Mobile: Unfortunately, there is no escalation process for this issue.
T-Mobile: We can set up call forwarding so that whoever calls your cell phone it will go to another phone.
Try to actually go into a T-Mobile store and make a big deal there
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I hate to say it, laissez-faire kinda guy that I am, but we need some kind of consumer protection legislation to prevent this kind of passing the buck.
Get on the phone and call a live person - ask for tech support, not a customer rep.
Sorry to hear that. I am currently on my second (freezing 3x a day) phone and I was offered another G2X exchange but I refused it. I told them they were just passing around refurb junk sent in by other G2X owners. To my surprise, I was offered a full upgrade (Got Tmobile in April 2011 with 2 year contract). It was a customer service rep that actually gave me that. I thought it was bs so I called back a week later to verify that the early full upgrade was noted in my account and it is. I would only be able to get a phone at the Tmobile website or at a corporate store. They said it would be 80% off the retail price. I am waiting for the Samsung Hercules to use that early full upgrade. I'm pretty sure they log every time you called in with notes of the reason of the call. I called in about 5 times (at least) so I think that's why I was offered the early upgrade. I would try calling in again at a different time. Try early morning around 7AM and then 8PM. That way you wont get the same person. You will get different results with different people you speak with. Call them again and good luck.
I was able to get another replacement overnighted to me yesterday... It should be here today. I did it all through the Live Chat online. I told them my phone would shutoff by itself, and it would require a battery pull, and he issued a replacement for me.
If I were you, I would just keep on trying until they offered to send you a replacement. It's worth multiple tries.
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I hate to say it, laissez-faire kinda guy that I am, but we need some kind of consumer protection legislation to prevent this kind of passing the buck.
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And you care about concealing water damage for the purpose of returning it to these thieves? T-Mobile knows for a damn fact there is good G2X's out there. They just don't want to give this gug another one in fear he might get another damaged G2X since it appears to be a 75% chance he would. Exchanging phones cost them money but they could give a **** less that we spent our hard earned money for a phone that we sometimes can't even use.
We signed a contract with T-Mobile and they entered into a contract with us to provide use with products and service as advertised. You see. I believe in a eye for a eye and two wrongs do make a right. You **** me over and I will **** you over twice as bad
Tmobile customer service is going to ****. Hear you have someone who's phone is not working as expected but they don't want to exchange it because it costs them money. T-Mobile knows there are good G2X'w out there. If all of them had problems then every customer who has one would be calling. I don't even care about the merger anymore. Its apparent T-Mobile is prepping for it quite well.
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I will certainly try again. I just can't wonder if this whole debacle will ever bring a full resolution. Is LG working on something? Are they just buying time to phase it out? What will those who have similar results like me have in the future? Will a fully fixed G2x ever hit the shelves..?
Anyone who got a replacement within the last week, what model number phone did you get?
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And you care about concealing water damage for the purpose of returning it to these thieves? T-Mobile knows for a damn fact there is good G2X's out there. They just don't want to give this gug another one in fear he might get another damaged G2X since it appears to be a 75% chance he would. Exchanging phones cost them money but they could give a **** less that we spent our hard earned money for a phone that we sometimes can't even use.
We signed a contract with T-Mobile and they entered into a contract with us to provide use with products and service as advertised. You see. I believe in a eye for a eye and two wrongs do make a right. You **** me over and I will **** you over twice as bad
Tmobile customer service is going to ****. Hear you have someone who's phone is not working as expected but they don't want to exchange it because it costs them money. T-Mobile knows there are good G2X'w out there. If all of them had problems then every customer who has one would be calling. I don't even care about the merger anymore. Its apparent T-Mobile is prepping for it quite well.
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T-Mo doesn't want o give him another phone because they will have to pay for it out of their own pocket. LG will not give you a new phone because they are incompetent manufacturers, along with being liars and thieves, ...while T-Mo simply can't afford to give away phones that they have to pay for.
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T-Mo doesn't want o give him another phone because they will have to pay for it out of their own pocket. LG will not give you a new phone because they are incompetent manufacturers, along with being liars and thieves, ...while T-Mo simply can't afford to give away phones that they have to pay for.
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T-Mobile can afford it. Their a multi billion dollar company. They sold you a phone to use on their network and it is up to them to make sure it works as advertised for 1 year from purchase. After this ends, T-Mobile can try to recupe their losses from LG but its known policy, their responsible for making sure that phone works within the first year providing the damage was not done by the customer. There is no ifs ands or butts about it. It is what it is and their beating around the bush. Do you think the middle class wooing man has enough money to keep buying phones because its provider wont provide him with a working one? This is bad business and you know it. I don't care if returning G2X's placed them into bankruptcy. The customer is always right and they must fix it.
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it is up to them to make sure it works as advertised for 1 year from purchase.
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Incorrect.
The manufacturer is responsible for the warranty in virtually every industry.
Yeah I had no luck with chat support I had to call in when the replacement was bad.
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Incorrect.
The manufacturer is responsible for the warranty in virtually every industry.
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Yes, the manufacture is ultimately responsible for the warranty but it is up to your providor to be the middle man and exchange the phone for you. They then send the defective phone back to the manufacture to be fixed, replaced or reimbursed.
It is up to the company you purchased the phone from to replace the phone. I didn't buy a phone from LG. I gave my money to T-Mobile who purchased the phone from LG. If I purchase the phone through Amazon then I would contact them for a replacement. If I buy a phone from a middle man than I expect that middle man to fulfill their end of the deal by making sure the device they sold me is not defective and can be used as advertised.
Its a very simple concept for anyone to understand. I know this to be the case since T-Mobile, the middle man exchanges multiple phones every single day.
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If you purchase a product from Best Buy or Walmart, and that product fails after the retailer's return policy has expired you are almost certainly responsible for contacting the manufacturer yourself. Most retailers have 30 day or even 14 day return policies depending on the product.
Arguing with you is like shooting fish in a barrel... you haven't made a valid point yet!
This whole G2X thing is garbage anyways.
Three months ago, I called into T-Mobile and did a contract renewal. I ordered 4 G2X's and 1 Defy for my 11 year old daughter...never would I have thought the Defy would be the best device in the bunch. It just works.
I called in within the first week about the phones shutting off, GPS taking over 25 minutes on 1 device to get a lock and was assured its all software and that LG is getting ready to release a software upgrade that will fix the issues, I should have sent them back and been done at that point instead of trusting what T-Mobile told me. Instead I had 4 replacements sent at one time, sent 3 of them back as they were worse than the originals. T-Mobile then sent me 3 more, fail. When I called back I asked to just send them back and was told i was past my 14 day period, even though it was noted on my account that I had called in previously in regards to sending them back and was told about the software update...that didnt change anything.
Next they decided the batteries were bad so they sent me 4 batteries, well that didnt solve a damn thing. They had me at that point contact LG, that got me a big "your a consumer, we cant offer any details on an updated software, but if you like you can send your phones back to us and we will send you replacements or fix the ones you have". Basically no go with that either.
Back to calling T-Mobile as I noticed now I had $100.00 charge on my bill for them sending me replacement phones!! The lines with insurance were only charged 5 bucks, the other 2 were charged $20!! They were unwilling to waive the fee's when I called about them! However they offered me replacement phones again if I wanted, and naturally at $50 bucks shipping again, I said no I wont pay for shipping again and finally got to loyalty and they waived the shipping if I wanted to try again, which knowing it wouldnt help did anyways just for the chance..I was right, it didnt help.
Then finally the wonderful, magical, all ending software update came...ta-da! Finally! Nope, wait. Still have the same issues, just not nearly as often as before. It seems to be about once a day now that one of the phones will shut off randomly, The GPS is a bit better on 3 of the phones but mine, nope. Still takes a good 10 minutes to get a lock.
When I called T-Mobile to tell them this great "fix" they were promising me didnt do a damn thing they said they know, and that the software update had been recalled but LG is currently working on a fix and to just give it time, they would not offer me anymore replacements as it doesnt seem to fix "MY" issues..lol, wtf T-Mobile. Kiss my ass.
I ended up filling a complaint with the BBB, I dont know if it will help or do anything at all but honestly, way I see it is it cant hurt. That was Sunday evening, I dont know how long it takes to hear anything back, or if I will at all but we will see.
T-Mobile use to be awesome, I am an old SunCom customer and when T-Mobile took over SunCom I was leery of what may become of the company I loved, T-Mobile really stepped it up and I had no complaints, recently though they pretty much just suck. I dont know what provider I will go with next but it wont be T-Mobile, yet I hate Verizon, Sprints horrible, AT&T with the merger..maybe I dont need phones anymore lol ffs.
techboydino said:
I will certainly try again. I just can't wonder if this whole debacle will ever bring a full resolution. Is LG working on something? Are they just buying time to phase it out? What will those who have similar results like me have in the future? Will a fully fixed G2x ever hit the shelves..?
Anyone who got a replacement within the last week, what model number phone did you get?
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My replacement just came in about an hour ago with Gingerbread pre-installed. The model number is LG-P999DW. (Checked LG Updated), so it is NOT a refurb!
Dude this is EXACTLY what's happened to me. I've had 4 exchanges and the caller rep said very matter of factly 'Sorry, we can no longer offer you a G2x exchange. Either keep the G2x you have or we'll send you out a comparable phone, the G2.' I got into explaining how that decision doesn't make any sense since I'm holding up my end of the deal by paying my bill...blah, blah, blah. And he said 'The device I'm told I can offer you today is the G2.' By some of the responses, I guess I'll just keep calling in until someone breaks down. I would LOVE to get $$ toward a Hercules, but it sounds like that's the good fortune of who you talk to.
Dude this is EXACTLY what's happened to me. I've had 4 exchanges and the caller rep said very matter of factly 'Sorry, we can no longer offer you a G2x exchange. Either keep the G2x you have or we'll send you out a comparable phone, the G2.' I got into explaining how that decision doesn't make any sense since I'm holding up my end of the deal by paying my bill...blah, blah, blah. And he said 'The device I'm told I can offer you today is the G2.' By some of the responses, I guess I'll just keep calling in until someone breaks down. I would LOVE to get $$ toward a Hercules, but it sounds like that's the good fortune of who you talk to.
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If you purchase a product from Best Buy or Walmart, and that product fails after the retailer's return policy has expired you are almost certainly responsible for contacting the manufacturer yourself. Most retailers have 30 day or even 14 day return policies depending on the product.
Arguing with you is like shooting fish in a barrel... you haven't made a valid point yet!
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Best Buy and Wal-Mart provide you merchandice but not a service. You don't pay them a monthly fee to lease a product from them. If you sign a contract and purchase a phone for the subsidized price, you are pretty much leasing the phone.
T-Mobile has been exchanging devices with the first year since I can remember. Hell, they exchanged 5 G2X's for me and 3 Sensations within the past 4 months. You can provide a service for one of your customers and not the next. An attorney would eat this alive in a court of law. By their POLICY they need to provide you with a working replacement or exchange your device for another comparable one of equal or lesser value. They CANT just tell you to suck it up and keep paying them monthly for something that doesn't work.
I don't understand why you can't comprehend this. Instead you want to compare Best Buy to a mobile service providor which is apples and oranges. Last time I checked. You don't enter into a contract or pay a monthly fee for a service to Best Buy.
Get off Tmobiles nuts and realize your wrong.
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Very interesting discussion...
I can tell you in no uncertain terms that ultimately LG is responsible for the product. The argument that you "Bought" the phone from T-Mobile, or you "leased" the product from T-Mobile is invalid. Your warranty is with LG.
We were all allowed 14 or 30 days to return the phone. Of course most of us held out for the "update/fix" until it was too late to return.
THIS is why I worked to find another remedy to the situation and ultimately had the class action law suit filed.
For any of you wanting further information about the CAL, contact my attorney directly.
http://www.doylelowther.com/class-action-against-lg-electronics-p999g2x/

Exchanged my AT&T One X today, the difference is night and day!

I have been posting here a little since getting my HTC One X (S4), mostly a little negative as I had been having bad battery and mostly bad reception (which lead to bad battery). I got it on 5/6 and even had the SIM card replaced thinking that was the issue. Data speeds were horrible (I'm in a "4g" area only, no LTE) and would be lucky if I got 1Mbps.
So today I went to Radio Shack and got it replaced. Holy Cow! I just got 3.75Mbps at home, where the most I ever got was just over 1Mbps on the defective one. Went to the gas station, speeds were still great and even in the movie theater I got a solid 2Mbps. My big test will be tonight to see if it still switches to EDGE at night as the old one always did.
TL;DR: If you think you have a defective unit with bad reception/battery, go replace it! And keep replacing it until you're satisfied!
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I have been posting here a little since getting my HTC One X (S4), mostly a little negative as I had been having bad battery and mostly bad reception (which lead to bad battery). I got it on 5/6 and even had the SIM card replaced thinking that was the issue. Data speeds were horrible (I'm in a "4g" area only, no LTE) and would be lucky if I got 1Mbps.
So today I went to Radio Shack and got it replaced. Holy Cow! I just got 3.75Mbps at home, where the most I ever got was just over 1Mbps on the defective one. Went to the gas station, speeds were still great and even in the movie theater I got a solid 2Mbps. My big test will be tonight to see if it still switches to EDGE at night as the old one always did.
TL;DR: If you think you have a defective unit with bad reception/battery, go replace it! And keep replacing it until you're satisfied!
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If only AT&T had them in stock for me to replace mine...
I get 10mb down and up to 3 up at home on hspa+. On lte i get 30 down and up to 30 up. My only issue is with the wifi bug but I'm sure that will be fixed in the upcoming update. Damn i love this phone!
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If only AT&T had them in stock for me to replace mine...
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Exactly!! I have these same issues but not one AT&T store around me has them in stock.
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Tiffany84 said:
Exactly!! I have these same issues but not one AT&T store around me has them in stock.
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Tiff, make sure the manager at the store you frequent knows of you problem and documents it.
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Tiffany84 said:
Exactly!! I have these same issues but not one AT&T store around me has them in stock.
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i had to send mine to htc for warranty repair. didnt want to wait till who knows when for new stock. i dont trust the stores near me. doubt theyd want to use their limited stock for an exchange when they finally get them. id hear some kind of excuse.
Couldn't you guys who got it from AT&T return it and get it from somewhere else?
I'm not sure how that return policy works, like do you get your "upgrade" back if you return the phone? Couldn't you then just keep returning phones every 29 days and always have the latest and greatest? lol
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Couldn't you guys who got it from AT&T return it and get it from somewhere else?
I'm not sure how that return policy works, like do you get your "upgrade" back if you return the phone? Couldn't you then just keep returning phones every 29 days and always have the latest and greatest? lol
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I'm pretty sure they limit your exchanges to two.
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Couldn't you guys who got it from AT&T return it and get it from somewhere else?
I'm not sure how that return policy works, like do you get your "upgrade" back if you return the phone? Couldn't you then just keep returning phones every 29 days and always have the latest and greatest? lol
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no...
clearly there are some devices out there with issues. Glad you were able to get yours replaced and are humming along. Now you need to get to an LTE are to see what speeds you get.
relic120 said:
Couldn't you guys who got it from AT&T return it and get it from somewhere else?
I'm not sure how that return policy works, like do you get your "upgrade" back if you return the phone? Couldn't you then just keep returning phones every 29 days and always have the latest and greatest? lol
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they limit to one exchange within 30 days. if you return the phone to get your upgrade back, you must pay a $35 restocking fee.
they've planned ahead for people like you!
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they limit to one exchange within 30 days. if you return the phone to get your upgrade back, you must pay a $35 restocking fee.
they've planned ahead for people like you!
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Problem is that they're greedy and want restocking fee regardless of exchange or return. So now it doesn't make sense to exchange. Return it and buy the other one.
It's not being sneaky or cheap. ATT just has a greedy, bad business practice.
Bought a 3gs and exchanged it for the HOX. HOX was bad took it back literally a day or two later. They said too bad. No exchange. I had to go through warranty repair. HTC was shocked that my phone was purchased days before and they sent me to them for an exchange instead of doing so in store.
Auto sales aren't even done that way anymore. Worst part was the store manager was giving me the whole ATT did me a courtesy speech for allowing the first exchange. What courtesy? I paid $35, got a different phone and it was defective and you told me to bad, talk to HTC.
While I'm on a roll I might as well keep going. Another issue I ran into during this ordeal was that I needed to return to the original place of purchase...what difference does it make if it was a corp. store?
Done with my rant...Sorry
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Problem is that they're greedy and want restocking fee regardless of exchange or return. So now it doesn't make sense to exchange. Return it and buy the other one.
It's not being sneaky or cheap. ATT just has a greedy, bad business practice.
Bought a 3gs and exchanged it for the HOX. HOX was bad took it back literally a day or two later. They said too bad. No exchange. I had to go through warranty repair. HTC was shocked that my phone was purchased days before and they sent me to them for an exchange instead of doing so in store.
Auto sales aren't even done that way anymore. Worst part was the store manager was giving me the whole ATT did me a courtesy speech for allowing the first exchange. What courtesy? I paid $35, got a different phone and it was defective and you told me to bad, talk to HTC.
While I'm on a roll I might as well keep going. Another issue I ran into during this ordeal was that I needed to return to the original place of purchase...what difference does it make if it was a corp. store?
Done with my rant...Sorry
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wow, you have every right to rant after an experience like that! I'm sorry you got treated that way. Just to set the record straight, though, that's absolutely NOT company policy for AT&T corporate-owned stores. Since your One X was DOA, you should not have to pay a restocking fee. I worked for AT&T Retail until a couple weeks ago, and we wouldn't have done that... sounds like you ran up against greedy, bad people.
Oh yeah, and it doesn't master where you return it. As long as it's a corporate store. Are you sure the second place wasn't an authorized retailer? Either that, or they only had one or two left in stock.
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When dealing with att, its always a good practice to deal with corporate stores only. And that is sometimes hard to tell the difference...99% of the corporate stores will do the right thing..when buying phones I use best buy because they are usually a little cheaper but more so that they offer a $0 deductible warranty and a $30 buyback program where they offer you at least $125 in 2 Yeats towards purchase of new phone..can trade before 2 years and get even bigger credit towards new phone..$125 is just the least you will get...well worth the $30 l. Just my 2 cents..
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The day I got it, I looked at mine and said...whoa.
The camera bezel isn't flush with the phone.
I'm NOT DUMB. I know it sticks out. - that's what the guy at AT&T said to me...what an idiot...
I mean like...where the bezel is set into the device, it sticks out a little.
Not to mention, I unlocked the device this morning to notice that the backlight of the recent apps button? Doesn't work anymore.
Needless to say, I emailed them about a possibly warranty replacement.
I LOVE the device - it's amazing! But...I don't think I can live with that when I paid for it outright...
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Problem is that they're greedy and want restocking fee regardless of exchange or return. So now it doesn't make sense to exchange. Return it and buy the other one.
It's not being sneaky or cheap. ATT just has a greedy, bad business practice.
Bought a 3gs and exchanged it for the HOX. HOX was bad took it back literally a day or two later. They said too bad. No exchange. I had to go through warranty repair. HTC was shocked that my phone was purchased days before and they sent me to them for an exchange instead of doing so in store.
Auto sales aren't even done that way anymore. Worst part was the store manager was giving me the whole ATT did me a courtesy speech for allowing the first exchange. What courtesy? I paid $35, got a different phone and it was defective and you told me to bad, talk to HTC.
While I'm on a roll I might as well keep going. Another issue I ran into during this ordeal was that I needed to return to the original place of purchase...what difference does it make if it was a corp. store?
Done with my rant...Sorry
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whoa! that's crazy! I got mine at radio shack and they did tell me that I was "suppose" to go back to the store I bought it at, but that was 250 miles away so she did it anyways. but the craziest part was that I actually got about 20 bucks back because the price of the phone had gone down. I paid no restocking fee either. based on all the stories I don't think I'll ever buy straight from att.

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