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Thanks for the $199 credit AT&T

I'm on day 29 of my 30 day buyers remorse. Still love the phone but the GPS issues irk me. Also the fact that I paid $199 while others are getting it for free bugged me. So, I dialed 611 and spoke to an agent. They informed me that they are aware of the GPS issue and then transferred me to a acct negotiator rep ( or whatever term they are using).
I explained to them that my 30 days was nearly up and the GPS issue still hasn't been resolved. Also that I was irritated that I paid 199 while other stores were giving the phone away for free. (I then suggested that maybe AT&T gave the phones away because they knew about the GPS issue). I said I was thinking of taking it back and going with a different provider. They then came back and offered my a $199 credit and if I wanted to I could talk to a top level tech about adjusting my GPS. I took the credit but there obviously was no point in talking to the top tier tech rep.
so yea for me, a free Captivate + taxes. And I suppose the GPS fix will be out in a month or so. Really the GPS is the only issue that's bugging me now...

did they have to get into your phone in any way?
if thats the case it might be worth a shot.

iamamp3pimp said:
did they have to get into your phone in any way?
if thats the case it might be worth a shot.
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nope. they just said 'thanks for being a loyal customer'... i don't think they can just "get into my phone" anyway, can they? This was all over the phone, I didn't go into a store or anything.

Too bad in Ga the remorse period is only 20 days...didnt work for me
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I tried and didn't work for me. She just said that I will still have an 11 month warranty so if the phone still has problems 11 months from now I can exchange it for a brand new one... for free. I asked her to clarify that I wouldn't need to pay for anything and she said absolutely not. She said she would "note it" on my account that I can exchange the phone for the exact same one for up to the next 11 months.
Darn.. I wanted a free phone though.

Yeah I ended up taking mine back (I paid the full price so I can keep my month to month in case I want to jump at some point), but seeing that we can get them for free makes me think that once Samsung fixes this issue and (hopefully?) we get 2.2 I will go ahead and snag one of these again.

wow they just told me I could not extend the buyers remorse period and that if I don't like the performance of the phone I should return it. and that is that. I said but ATT doesn't have any android phones on par with the captivate... but verizon does and he says then maybe I should go with verizon. if that is what will make me happy because they want happy customers.
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This has really got me thinking hard about jumping ship now... My sister just got an HTC Incredible on Verizon and she loves it.... I know its not quite the galaxy S but hey with a fully functional aGPS and a Froyo update around the corner who is going to notice the difference. Maybe I can family plan it up with her.

There's a bunch of folks that have been doing the same thing, and most HAVE received some kind of credit back. I tried last night, and jumped through a number of hoops, making it almost not even worth all the hassle, but this afternoon I was credited $100 to my account. I've heard anywhere from 100-199. I guess it all depends on the manager you are speaking with at the time.
They technically do not have to give you a credit back, because essentially it is price matching, which they do not do. So hopefully those that are planning on trying, get a customer service rep and or manager that is in a GOOD mood.

What if we bought the phone through best buy? Can we still talk to att about the issue?
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I bought mine through amazon wireless... and yes they asked where I bought it. so it might matter to your success in getting a credit if you went direct through att... If I return I have to return to Amazon and then deal with ATT for the service plan restructure.
the warranty is a year I believe so you can probably do a 1:1 swap as was stated above.
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Just remember that warranty replacements are refurbished units, not new ones...

replacing a year old unit with a refurbished unit sounds good to me.

acandia007 said:
What if we bought the phone through best buy? Can we still talk to att about the issue?
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I actually bought mine from best buy. They didn't ask me where I bought it.

I tired and the lady was like totally ignoring what I was saying. She was like well if you want you can take back to the store and get a refund. I was like whatever!
She looked up the GPS issue in the system and all it had was to enable use wireless networks. I was like that only enables cell tower location, doesn't help with GPS issues. System had nothing about a update or anything. So odd you find variations. This was the business premier services too. So tempted to change carriers but after 12 years .... You would think they would take care of you. Last time I called though they gave me 3000 roll over minutes so I guess I can't complain.
You must be like my friend and have an ability with dealing with companies... lol.

sorry to thread jack but where are people getting free captivates from? does anyone know if any of those places allow you to keep your unlimited data plan?

soul4rent said:
sorry to thread jack but where are people getting free captivates from? does anyone know if any of those places allow you to keep your unlimited data plan?
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Originally walmart.com (letstalk.com) had it for free and then went to $99. Most places I have seen for $99. tigerdirect.com mypoints.com, cellstore.com, are all $99. I think you can keep your dataplan, one of the sites had a wizard that would check your account, I think it was tigerdirect.

I called them and was able to get a $75 credit to my account. I was out of my 30 days as well. I told them that I used it to log when I go out running, and my routes were choppy and it was recording that I was running mcuh more than I actually was. I made the comment that if it was a $50 phone, like I see it advertised at some places, I wouldn't have as big an issue, but seeing as it was $199, I expect it to work how it's advertised.

I have no issues with my GPS...takes a few seconds to lock on but it's not a big deal to me

Exchange with t-mobile

I brought this mytouch off Craigslist by trading with my G2. The phone is starting some problems as with not turning the screen on when after a phone call and I got the bad screen on it.
Now I don't know if this phone is stolen or not or the person got it from the insurance by claiming Its lost.
Now do you think T-Mobile will exchnage it? I can't deal with the screen not turning on anymore so yeah.
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I am sure this is the reason the owner sold it in first place, I bet the person gave you lame story about how he changed carrier or got it as gift or some BS and he already has something lol so he didn't need it.
This is why I warn folks about buying jack from eBay or Craigslist when first batch came out month ago that means alot of inferior device that shouldn't have passed QC got though. Your best bet is going via HTC device warranty as TMo itself will not honor yours as they have no proof of this device was valid transaction linked to your account. Also the remorse period is only though TMo not by 3rd party individuals.

Thanks for the reply Mr.HKM, He told me he had 2 of these and he wanted to get rid of it so I'm guessing he used the insurance company to get another by saying it was lost.
Is it worth a shot with T-Mobile? or Should I call up HTC tomrrow and see what they can do? The thing is, I don't want to be left phoneless though, that's the only thing that's going to be bad for me.
Would my best bet be selling it back on Craigslist and getting another one?

I bought my HD2 off craigslist and transfered my insurance to it by calling tmo and asking them if I could. It was originally the insurance I had on my touch pro 2. My nexus one was insured by that other company.
I never had to use it on the hd2 so I don't know how that would work. After I bought the MT4G I had the guy at the store transfer my insurance to it.
Its worth a shot calling tmo. From my experience they are wing willing to work with you.
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Maybe prick got it buy one get one free though adding family members with contract. Best place to buy it now is though TMo as like you I also considered buying it via CL/eBay but after I saw the rate of bad display, ffc, creaky buttons I decide it to just shall out the full $450 and get it without contract. Didn't want the hassle as I lost my HD2 and was left with dumbphone lol trust me its no fun.
Well this is what you can do just skip it all as TMo will not help you so just contact HTC rep and request RMA for it. While you are sending it go to local TMo store and get "loner" phone while its taken care of. You can contact the seller but I am sure the prick will ignore you as kid will be like its your problem now.
Update: Do as MvP77 said then first with TMo it won't hurt long as you get it taken care of if not then you become the prick and get it of your hand ASAP by selling it to someone else lol

Ugh I looked at T-Mobile website about device warranty under T-Mobile and it looks like you cannot transfer warranties from another customer. Pretty much bumed out at this point.
Should I post of on Craigslist asap and get rid of it and buy another one and risk getting a **** screen and or just keep this?
I flashed iced galicer on it and the screen comes on after a call so I'm just worried about the screen for now.
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I have known and helped people who bought through ebay or craigslist get a replacement through T-Mo. It's not a fool proof way but it has worked for some.
First thing is hopefully you are a T-Mo customer? Then don't use the online chat, call them on the phone. Just ask for Tech support. Here is what you are trying to accomplish, you need to get your IMEI # in their system to have a chance. So since this device came out with a OTA (Over the Air update) the same day it launched it is a plus for you. If your IMEI # is not in the system you will never get the update. So when you call and get to the rep just explain to him you are having some problems with very poor battery life and your video chat is not working properly, poor signal etc. Tell him you knew there was a OTA update but you have never received it, and you want to see if this will fix your problems first before deciding on a warranty replacement. If they ask you where you got it tell them you got it from a T-Mobile Store and you bought it full price. Whatever you do don't tell them craigslist. Stay firm on you buying it in a store no matter how many times they ask. Now the above might not even come up but be prepared in case. Noe tell the tech support rep could he please make sure that your IMEI number is correct in their system as you have never received the update. Your number might be in there and it might not. Likely it is not. I had one that was wrong for a whole month from when I changed from my G2. They will ask you for your number and give it to them. If they don't find it they will try to put it in. If the IMEI number is not in their database they will tell you also and ask where you bought it. Stick to the plan. Tell them you don't know why it's not in their system all you did is buy it in their store it should be in the system and you paid full price for it it better be in the system. now I have actually had this happen on one of my early replacements. And I really did get it from a store. They finally said they could manually enter it and override the system. Now if you get this done your almost there. Tell them thank you and you will be waiting for the update and hopefully it fixes the issues if not you will call back. Wait a day or two. The call back and when you here the automated attendant say cancel. This gets you to a higher level rep. Tell the about the problems and you are disappoint that you paid full price and now you have all these problems and the OTA update did not correct them. You are loosing data connection and they stay off for long periods of time. Tell them you have already been to a store and they changed your SIM card and that you have already talked to tech support and factory master reset with them twice and they said it is defective. You said you would give it another chance but it did not get any better. Now hopefully they will process you a exchange and send it to you and then you send yours back..
I hope this help and you get a good one. If all else fails go through HTC.

xdviper said:
I brought this mytouch off Craigslist by trading with my G2. The phone is starting some problems as with not turning the screen on when after a phone call and I got the bad screen on it.
Now I don't know if this phone is stolen or not or the person got it from the insurance by claiming Its lost.
Now do you think T-Mobile will exchnage it? I can't deal with the screen not turning on anymore so yeah.
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Sounds like a software bug. Try a factory reset before you do anything.

xdviper said:
I brought this mytouch off Craigslist by trading with my G2. The phone is starting some problems as with not turning the screen on when after a phone call and I got the bad screen on it.
Now I don't know if this phone is stolen or not or the person got it from the insurance by claiming Its lost.
Now do you think T-Mobile will exchnage it? I can't deal with the screen not turning on anymore so yeah.
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I've bought a few different phones off Craigslist and got them all exchanged through warranty. As long as its still under the manufacturers warranty they should exchange it. All they did was look up the imei to verify its still under warranty. This is my experience with T-Mob, so I don't see why you shouldn't be able to exchange it. Now, if its a stolen or lost phone, they might not. Let us know how it goes for you. Hope you get a good one.
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This is the kind of thing of why i dont want to buy one off ebay or cl, i dont mind but i know it will be a phone i will have for a long time so id rather buy it brand new.

Trust ME
as long as you have insurance which is 5.99 a month for the php bundle then it will cover the phone...just call in do troubleshooting and hey will replace it as long as there not liquid damage or physical damage....u dont pay anything not even shipping and hanlding

Alright, I'm going to give it a shot today.
This took ne at a surprise, I went and logged on to my T-Mobile and it shows the white mytouch as my phone... so I'm guessing they already know I have a mytouch?
so alright thanks for the replies everyone. I'll call in this afternoon and see what the deal is. Thanks.
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rodriguez27 said:
this is the kind of thing of why i dont want to buy one off ebay or cl, i dont mind but i know it will be a phone i will have for a long time so id rather buy it brand new.
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i agree with you 100%

bobsbbq THANK you soo much for that detailed post and everyone else.
I called and told them about the screen not turning back after a phone call, and they went ahead and replaced it for me. I hope I get a good screen and one that turns on after a phone call. Thanks everyone

Told ya. Tmo customer service is excellent. I even got a watered damage G1 replaced.
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I can't express how.much I wanna say thank you. I just hope it comes before this 3 day weekend and with the Sony screen. Thanks guys.
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insurance is crazy 6 bucks a month thats 72 bucks a year on a phone you paid 100 bucks for

Lockeskidney said:
insurance is crazy 6 bucks a month thats 72 bucks a year on a phone you paid 100 bucks for
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For someone like me that switches phones alot and usually pays full or close to full price the insurance its nice. It would suck if it was like sprints insurance where you gotta pay a deductible.
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I think T-Mobile does also make you pay a deductible also. Not sure, but I do change phones a lot and not sure if insurance would cover non T-Mobile phones like the iPhone.
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Lockeskidney not everyone sells there soul by signing 2year contract and having to pay more than its actually worth. Now lets say this as I never considered insurance. I usually buy the device without contract at full price from valid vendor now if I lose it how much is the deductible? I am sure everyone ATM here some how doing insurance fraud false claiming it as lost.

G2X/Sensation Exchange Question?

I purchased my G2X 4/19 through the retentions department and never exchanged yet. It's been fairly good to me so far other than the internet dns issues. I have been waiting around for the updates to come but who knows when that will come. I am now experiencing random reboots and phone getting hot in my pocket for no reason. I want to call in report the issues to tmobile for an exchange but really would hate to receive a refurb device and only to receive a worse device than I have.
I know the website has been showing out of stock for the last month but does TMobile have devices readily available for exchanges or are those also out of stock? I'm trying to figure out if I could somehow use this in my favor if I can ask them if I could have a sensation instead?

I have been lied to so many times by different reps. One says they can give ne the galaxy s 4g for free (which I don't want). The other says I could pay $50 to get the sensation. I said no to that. The next Rep stated there are no offers other than exchanging for the same thing. I am on my fourth G2X and it is getting rediculous. I emailed a long letter to a bunch of the corporate execs about this unacceptable and incobsistent service. We will see what happens. Their whole thing is that the g2x msrp is $499 whereas the sensation is $549. They say the sensation is a more expensive phone and you have to pay to "upgrade", even though it is the only comparable replacement at this point.
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I have been lied to so many times by different reps. One says they can give ne the galaxy s 4g for free (which I don't want). The other says I could pay $50 to get the sensation. I said no to that. The next Rep stated there are no offers other than exchanging for the same thing. I am on my fourth G2X and it is getting rediculous. I emailed a long letter to a bunch of the corporate execs about this unacceptable and incobsistent service. We will see what happens. Their whole thing is that the g2x msrp is $499 whereas the sensation is $549. They say the sensation is a more expensive phone and you have to pay to "upgrade", even though it is the only comparable replacement at this point.
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Then pay the $50 and get the Sensation. If the Sensation is $50 more then it is $50 more. If you walked into a Tmobile store right now, they wouldn't sell you a Sensation for $500.
Basically they are giving you a refund of $500 to put toward another phone. That is pretty generous.
If the OP hasn't had any problems then I'm going to assume he hasn't called in any replacements. They typically don't offer other models until they've shipped out 3 replacements (the 4th offering a different make/model). I think the OP is asking whether they still have refurbs to send out... which I think they still do. So you'd probably have to go through the whole replacement process for a while, which isn't cool just to get a different phone.
I had a replacement shipped to me once and it had horrible backlight bleeding. I called and told them it was defective and shipped it back. My original phone I bricked but revived, thankfully.
All in all, I would call and ask and see what they say. If they send you a refurb, send it back it is worse off.

The only way your going to get a even replacement is getting a rep who actually knows about phones and is willing to get a supervisor override.
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how
how do i get the supervisor override done?

randyp007 said:
how do i get the supervisor override done?
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I wouldn't even know how to go about asking for one. I was just lucky enough to find a rep that was understanding. He put me on hold, talked to a supervisor and then put me on hold again while he went to his supervisors computer to do the override.

Did you had your phone running stock all this time?
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If I got my phone off CL am I SOL when it comes to an exchange?

i am wondering as the guy above me ^_^
i love my g2x, but the sensation is quite something

Horsey said:
If I got my phone off CL am I SOL when it comes to an exchange?
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WHat is CL? If you meant off contract then no your not SOL. I got my G2X off contract as well and I am still off contract even though I got a free Sensation and keep my G2X.

Craigslist he means.
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My phone has been stock this whole time besides a few apps here and there. I was getting bad battery life at first but did a restore which seemed to fix the issue. At this point i don't think im going to call in to get a replacement i think my phone is going to br one of the more reliable ones out there until the updates. Thanks guys for the input
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if the update comes out and these problem still exists, then LG & Tmobile will really hear from the customers. They better be ready for the bad press/back lash

After being treated like crap with customer service, I wrote a well worded letter and sent it to all the big wigs at TMobile corporate figuring I would finally get the sensation for free (if they valued my service). I asked for the sensation at no charge or for them to let me out of my contract since they continue to give me a faulty phone. Cindy Maes called me today and stated that they would accept the $50 upgrade but they would do no more. She also said they would not let me out of contract. When I mentioned filing a complaint with the BBB, she said she looks into all complaints from them and that she would not be calling me back and the offer would no longer be valid!!! Now that is guts. No wonder they have been slipping in service year after year......
Should I just pay the $50 for the sensation?

Cyberdan3 said:
After being treated like crap with customer service, I wrote a well worded letter and sent it to all the big wigs at TMobile corporate figuring I would finally get the sensation for free (if they valued my service). I asked for the sensation at no charge or for them to let me out of my contract since they continue to give me a faulty phone. Cindy Maes called me today and stated that they would accept the $50 upgrade but they would do no more. She also said they would not let me out of contract. When I mentioned filing a complaint with the BBB, she said she looks into all complaints from them and that she would not be calling me back and the offer would no longer be valid!!! Now that is guts. No wonder they have been slipping in service year after year......
Should I just pay the $50 for the sensation?
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is the problem just light bleed or are you having freezing/reboot problems...just a fair warning the sensation is without it's faults also. You are most likely to get dust under the screen due to poor manufacturing. My wife has the same issue with her MT4G but it doesn't bother her like it would me. Just don't be surprised if you run into issues with the sensation.

tq745 said:
is the problem just light bleed or are you having freezing/reboot problems...just a fair warning the sensation is without it's faults also. You are most likely to get dust under the screen due to poor manufacturing. My wife has the same issue with her MT4G but it doesn't bother her like it would me. Just don't be surprised if you run into issues with the sensation.
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I think all these manufacturers need a lesson in QC/QA, or at least fire the staff they currently have and get a new one. It's seems commonplace that all Android devices are not created equal. I will say this much about the iPoop, that if one person has the death grip issues all 20 million of their devices do.

Cyberdan3 said:
After being treated like crap with customer service, I wrote a well worded letter and sent it to all the big wigs at TMobile corporate figuring I would finally get the sensation for free (if they valued my service). I asked for the sensation at no charge or for them to let me out of my contract since they continue to give me a faulty phone. Cindy Maes called me today and stated that they would accept the $50 upgrade but they would do no more. She also said they would not let me out of contract. When I mentioned filing a complaint with the BBB, she said she looks into all complaints from them and that she would not be calling me back and the offer would no longer be valid!!! Now that is guts. No wonder they have been slipping in service year after year......
Should I just pay the $50 for the sensation?
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Well writing a "well worded" letter to corporate doesn't guarantee you anything especially if its demanding. Getting a $500 phone for $50 is a good deal and you should have jumped on it- assuming they let you keep the g2x also.

They said I would have to send back the G2X............

At this point is so freaking hard to judge which phome to keep since both seem to have issues.
What makes me want to keep my G2x is the unlock bootloader and the Tegra 2 plus the super snappy interface.
Where I start thinking if I should get the Sensation over the G2x is that the G2x haven't been in their website for over a month and this delayed updates making LG and T-Mobile look very very unreliable.
I will be starting a business and I need a reliable phone that will be supported.
Anyway, any thoughts?
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moshe22 said:
At this point is so freaking hard to judge which phome to keep since both seem to have issues.
What makes me want to keep my G2x is the unlock bootloader and the Tegra 2 plus the super snappy interface.
Where I start thinking if I should get the Sensation over the G2x is that the G2x haven't been in their website for over a month and this delayed updates making LG and T-Mobile look very very unreliable.
I will be starting a business and I need a reliable phone that will be supported.
Anyway, any thoughts?
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Yea, here is my thought. If your starting a business then get the Sensation. It's a better business phone. Keep the G2X if you want a better play phone.

Tmobile costumer care exchange?

So my question ia that I just got this phone from tmobile customer care over the phone. I like everything on the device so far, except the speaker volume.So I want to take advantage of the twenty day guarantee. I want to try another unit. If I call them and tell them that I don't like this unit, will they send the other unit out first our do I have to send mines back first? If I have both units on hand, I can easily compare both and decide which one to keep.
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mike2518 said:
So my question ia that I just got this phone from tmobile customer care over the phone. I like everything on the device so far, except the speaker volume.So I want to take advantage of the twenty day guarantee. I want to try another unit. If I call them and tell them that I don't like this unit, will they send the other unit out first our do I have to send mines back first? If I have both units on hand, I can easily compare both and decide which one to keep.
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Not my experience. I also ordered from TMO over the phone. After 5 days my Sensation died. Took it to a store and they refused to replace it, said I had to call it in. Called and they will only replace it after receiving mine. I even have to call them again after they've received it to arrange the replacement. It's going to take over a week to get the new one.
One other thing, there seems to be a difference in how they treat new accounts and upgrades. Since mine is an upgrade this is the only option I had.
Really pisses me off. There are several ways they could handle this better. Not good service at all.

Samnada you settled for less than good treatment man.
I was on day 12 of 14 and called in about the broken power button. They told me they'd send a new one out when I called in with the tracking number for the one I'm returning. I said fine - will they overnight it? They said they dont do that. I told them they overnighted the first one (2 day ground in a one day zone but their words). I told them I need a phone and I would be cancelling service if that's how it would work. She got with a supervisor and agreed to ship me one and that i'd return the other when I got the replacement or Id eat the cost of the second. She made sure to mention this was a special allowance for me and not general procedure.
2nd phone has a blue dot under the gorilla glass. Called in to see if I could ship both phones together back to Tmo. Thinking about cancelling service too. Not interested in doing this **** over and over. Guy was cool said I should have had return shipping slips in both boxes (I didnt) and that they'd reimburse me if I take my shipping receipt to a store. Also asked me to take the phone to a store to have them see in person whats wrong with it and note my account. Then he said theyd do the same ship and return after receipt of new phone w/ shipping reimbursement to my account via credit.
YMMV from rep to rep man - you may have to call back a few times to get satisfaction. I was surprised the woman I spoke to Wednesday helped me so much. Very cool. Guy I spoke with today was a Sensation owner and very cool too.

GorillaPimp said:
Samnada you settled for less than good treatment man.
I was on day 12 of 14 and called in about the broken power button. They told me they'd send a new one out when I called in with the tracking number for the one I'm returning. I said fine - will they overnight it? They said they dont do that. I told them they overnighted the first one (2 day ground in a one day zone but their words). I told them I need a phone and I would be cancelling service if that's how it would work. She got with a supervisor and agreed to ship me one and that i'd return the other when I got the replacement or Id eat the cost of the second. She made sure to mention this was a special allowance for me and not general procedure.
2nd phone has a blue dot under the gorilla glass. Called in to see if I could ship both phones together back to Tmo. Thinking about cancelling service too. Not interested in doing this **** over and over. Guy was cool said I should have had return shipping slips in both boxes (I didnt) and that they'd reimburse me if I take my shipping receipt to a store. Also asked me to take the phone to a store to have them see in person whats wrong with it and note my account. Then he said theyd do the same ship and return after receipt of new phone w/ shipping reimbursement to my account via credit.
YMMV from rep to rep man - you may have to call back a few times to get satisfaction. I was surprised the woman I spoke to Wednesday helped me so much. Very cool. Guy I spoke with today was a Sensation owner and very cool too.
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I did take it to a store when it first died to try a different battery in case that was the problem. They confirmed the phone was indeed dead, and noted that in my account. But he wouldn't swap for a new one unless I had purchased it at the store.
I was on the phone for nearly 2 hours, switched to 3 different people, and the best I could get was a $10 credit on the shipping to them. They'll overnight the new one , but not until they receive mine and I call them back to undo/redo my upgrade deal. I could get a loaner phone in the meantime, but it would have just been some cheapo deal which didn't interest me since I have my Vibrant.
Part of what bothers me about TMO is this horsetrading aspect where some people get great deals and others get zip, apparently depending on a roll of the dice and who you happen to get on the phone. Some CSR's are great and others sound like they're robotically reading from a script.
They're standard policy sucks. They need to change it. I shouldn't have to beg and plead and threaten to be treated like I'm a paying customer.
They could have overnighted the new phone to the store, have me turn in my dead one there, and verified the problem and the return. Done deal, and they would be out nothing more than they will now. They could also do just what you said, ship me one overnight and if I didn't return the bad one charge me full retail for both. Fine. But their standard policy seems designed to maximize frustration.
I'm considering all my options, but have to have an international phone, so that narrows the choices of carriers, and from what I've heard ATT is even worse.
If TMO has the best customer service it's no wonder cell phones are the source of the most consumer complaints.

I'm not sure if things have changed in the last 5-6 months but when me and my wife had multiple problems with our MT4G's I never had to send mine in first. As a matter of fact I had 6 out of 7 sent overnight free of charge. But on all of them I was told I had seven days to return them after I received the new one.
Maybe times have changed. I might be doing a exchange as well in the near future and I will see.

i actually am getting a replacement for mine on tuesday , i called it in today after all hell broke loose on my phone today ,they are sending me another unit and im sending them back mine , actually they gave me the option

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i actually am getting a replacement for mine on tuesday , i called it in today after all hell broke loose on my phone today ,they are sending me another unit and im sending them back mine , actually they gave me the option
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Are you in the 14-day remorse period? They kept telling me it was because I'm doing an upgrade and I have to cancel/redo the deal to restart the 14-days on the new phone. I don't understand how people are reporting they've swapped Sensations 3 or 4 times. How is that being done? Am I the only one who's being treated this way?
The more I hear the more mad I get.

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Are you in the 14-day remorse period? They kept telling me it was because I'm doing an upgrade and I have to cancel/redo the deal to restart the 14-days on the new phone. I don't understand how people are reporting they've swapped Sensations 3 or 4 times. How is that being done? Am I the only one who's being treated this way?
The more I hear the more mad I get.
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monday makes 14 days ,i dont know if that makes a difference , they guy asked me if i wanted to wait for an update from htc and i told him no , i also called htc and they couldnt do anything because of the holiday , you shouyld be good to go being that the phone is still under warranty

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monday makes 14 days ,i dont know if that makes a difference , they guy asked me if i wanted to wait for an update from htc and i told him no , i also called htc and they couldnt do anything because of the holiday , you shouyld be good to go being that the phone is still under warranty
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I'm good as far as it being replaced, it's just the process they're requiring of having to receive my phone before they ship me a new one that's absurd. Due to the holiday it's going to be next Friday at the earliest before I get a phone.
I'll start calling tomorrow to see if they can persuade me to stay a TMO customer.

Totally understand your gripes and they're legitimate. You shouldn't have to roll the dice for options that others get. I feel you on GSM too. I really don't want to go to ATT because I'd have to get an iPhone. I'm tired of reconfiguring phones already. If the next one is trash too I'm going back to my N1 and old contract. Wifi calling is sweet but not happy with the poor quality control.

By way of comparison, we went through a sordid version of this when the N1's rolled out, too. TMO didn't wanna touch'em, Google (who sold and shipped them out overnight) had no live support, and we had to rely on HTC. At the time, HTC's policy was (maybe still is?) only DOA phones would get immediate replacement at no additional charge. Any phone that worked, THEN failed was an 'in-warranty' replacement, and the only way to expedite it was to allow your credit card to be fully charged (although some report a $1 hold rather than a full charge) and THEN they would cross-ship. Otherwise, you had to ship the old unit BEFORE the new one shipped, and we had reports a call with a tracking number (as mentioned above) would also expedite a replacement shipment. I know waiting sucks, but unless it was bought IN a physical store, with their own return/replacement policies, 'it is what it is'. :|

Thanks for the input guys. I'll be calling them soon. They told me that I have a 20 day remorse period for some reason. Also, to the person having the issue of not bring able to return the phone to the store , It's not gonna happen. The rep told me straight up that the phone people and the store people are not together.
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Another question: if they send me the other phone also, and I have a chance to compare both, would I be able to send the second unit back incase my first original unit is better? Or do I have to keep the second one?
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um when i first got my htc sensation the power button was slanted and the screen was messed up and weird looking aou screen i called that same day to get a replacement got it in 2 days. I told the rep i have the tracking number in my hand which i did =] just went to ups.com got a tracking number and shipped it out tm while my replacement phone was coming. The downside is you will be charged twice =/ the first phone will be on your cc already then they will charge you again for the 2nd one.. thing sucks to wait 4 weeks for it to clear just remember when u drop off the package to ask for the receipt. Maybe i was just lucky huh?

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Not my experience. I also ordered from TMO over the phone. After 5 days my Sensation died. Took it to a store and they refused to replace it, said I had to call it in. Called and they will only replace it after receiving mine. I even have to call them again after they've received it to arrange the replacement. It's going to take over a week to get the new one.
One other thing, there seems to be a difference in how they treat new accounts and upgrades. Since mine is an upgrade this is the only option I had.
Really pisses me off. There are several ways they could handle this better. Not good service at all.
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This is because they are redoing your upgrade. Tell them you don't want to redo the upgrade, you just want a replacement.
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This is because they are redoing your upgrade. Tell them you don't want to redo the upgrade, you just want a replacement.
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They didn't give me a choice. They said this is how it's going to work. Send us your dead phone, once we get it give us a call and we'll redo your upgrade and send you a new phone. They said it was because I got the upgrade through Customer Retention. It's like dealing with the government.
I offered to let them take my CC # and bill me if I didn't return the phone if they would ship the new one right away and they refused.
Not sure how they decide who to punish. My credit rating is perfect. I've never given them a minutes problem in the past. Just seems totally arbitrary.
I called them with the UPS tracking # in order to get the $10 shipping credit, so they have that. They're going to ship me a new phone, so what's it to them if it's today or next Thursday? I just don't get it.

I'm 23, have terrible credit and constantly call in and complain. I've been a customer since I was 18 and in the way that matters, paying my bill, I've always been a good customer. TMobile has always shipped my replacements out first and then I mail mine back to them in the box they ship the replacement in to me.
One time, they shipped be a broken MT3GS as a replacement so I called in and yelled at them so they sent me a second replacement MT3GS so I had three phones, 2 of which belonged to TMobile, out at the same time. I complained about them shipping me a broken phone, the amount of problems on my phone, they tried to give me a motorola cliq2, I told them they were crazy and I got a 350 dollar discount and upgraded to the sensation on Launch Day. Great timing!

Just got off the phone with a much more helpful TMO CSR. Order for replacement phone has been placed, due to the holiday it will ship overnight on Tue, arrive here Wed. Wish I'd gotten her the first time.
Thanks for the encouragement to keep after them.

So any opinions on whether I would have to return my first unit after receiving the second one or just return the second one incase the first unit is better than the replacement unit?
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So any opinions on whether I would have to return my first unit after receiving the second one or just return the second one incase the first unit is better than the replacement unit?
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If it is a warranty exchange you can send either back.
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AT&T Return Policy

My One X has 3-4 stuck pixels, some light bleed and backlight bleed. It has also had a couple episodes of massive overheating while the phone has been sitting on the table, not in use.
I called customer support last week about doing an exchange after trying a store first. Since the phone was out of stock, they put a note on my account that I had called within the 30 day period and told me to call back this week. Evidently they can't schedule the exchange for when the phone is back in stock.
I called back today, and after the obligatory 3-4 transfers coupled with repeating myself 3-4 times, I was told that I would be charged another $199, and refunded the initial $199 at some point after my return was received.
I can't really afford to pay another $199 for the time being.
Reading back over AT&T's 30 day policy, I don't see this extra charge being mentioned anywhere.
Has anyone else run into this? The AT&T store near me still does not have them back in stock, so I can't do an exchange there.
The 30 day policy does not seem to mention anything about being charged twice, but it does say that refunds on returned phones will be issued within two months. Two months is a long time, and seems unreasonable.
I'm just wondering if others have run into this when returning their phones, or if it's something that can be circumvented.

Nope I had the same issue and they replaced it right away no money or questions asked
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Thanks...did you do the exchange over the phone or in store?

I was charged the $199.99 and then credited the money back once they got the phone back.

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I was charged the $199.99 and then credited the money back once they got the phone back.
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That's bs. They shouldn't do that. If you don't send the phone back they should just credit your account. I've never had so many problems returning a phone than I do with AT&T.
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Nope I had the same issue and they replaced it right away no money or questions asked
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This. Go to the stores instead of calling customer service, they are a lot more helpful.
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Yeah I'd suggest going into a store for the best experience.
Some people on the phones dont know what the heck they are doing.

Yea sorry lol I went to the store and they were more than happy to help me.
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I'm sure going into a store is the best way to go, unfortunately the stores near me do not have any stock and do not know when they'll be getting the phones back. I called to ask if they could set up the exchange in store and order a new one for me, but they have to have the phones in stock to do an exchange.

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That's bs. They shouldn't do that. If you don't send the phone back they should just credit your account. I've never had so many problems returning a phone than I do with AT&T.
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It wasn't a big deal to me and I was OK with it. But, I can certainly understand how this can put someone in a pinch.
Also, I just got off the phone with AT&T and the DID make a notation on my account that once the phone is in stock, they will send out a new one since I am having issues with this phone too. So if you are in need of an exchange and the stores are out of stock, make sure you call and get the notes put into your account!!!

I'm no longer an at t customer but was for a long time.in my experience I always got the best service in corporate stores the authorized retailer won't always help out. It shouldn't cost out of pocket just billed to your account and refunded later.they send a return shipping box and tracking info for you to return the old one in.even the tape to close the box, lol.
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I found a corporate store that had received a new shipment and the exchange was fairly painless. New phone has one stuck pixel, but I think I can live with that.

I got notice today that the corporate store I go to received their shipment. Went in and exchanged without issue. Shipped with 1.85.
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I got notice today that the corporate store I go to received their shipment. Went in and exchanged without issue.
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Also on 1.85?

Hi. I bought the AT&T HTC One X off Amazon. Can I still go to the AT&T store for an exchange since I noticed a dead pixel?

No but amazon has a 30 day return policy.

Does AT&T's "one exchange only" rule apply to phones with dead pixels? In other words, can you keep exchanging until you get a phone without dead pixels? It seems to be a huge problem on these phones. I'm afraid to go back to the store and piss off the manager by rejecting phone after phone due to dead pixels.

Nope within the first 30 days warranty exchanges can be done in store.

So are there a bunch of problems with this phone or are a lot of people complaining about nothing? I sear everyday I look on this phone someone's says they are returning their phone because of issues.
Call it what you want but if you have to return it more than once that's horrible quality.
Trying to make a decision if this is the right phone to get....

AT&T website says defective devices must be returned within 14 days of receiving the replacement. Ugghhh. I thought it was 30!
Do you think they'll still take it back? They have been sold out because of the holdup at customs.