Does scheduled email check work while on wifi only? I booted up phone without sim, connected to wifi and set to check email every 10 min. I did get 2 emails but no notification and no unread email count. Only when I opened email app, notifications worked and email count appeared.
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You should use Push email really.
Push email does a http request to the server with a long timeout, 30 mins I think. When it timesout it does another. So if you're getting no email, nothing is really going on. When you get an email, the http request is responded to telling your phone it has an email.
If you have it polling every 10 minutes, imagine an hour you get no email. It connects to the server, does all the checking, 6 times an hour.
In the same hour with Push email, your phone does two http requests that timeout.
The amount of data transferred, and the impact on battery, etc, is much worse with polling than Push!
Not a lot of people seem to be aware of that!
chrisw99 said:
You should use Push email really.
Push email does a http request to the server with a long timeout, 30 mins I think. When it timesout it does another. So if you're getting no email, nothing is really going on. When you get an email, the http request is responded to telling your phone it has an email.
If you have it polling every 10 minutes, imagine an hour you get no email. It connects to the server, does all the checking, 6 times an hour.
In the same hour with Push email, your phone does two http requests that timeout.
The amount of data transferred, and the impact on battery, etc, is much worse with polling than Push!
Not a lot of people seem to be aware of that!
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Are you serious about this? I thought PUSH mail will drain battery quicky than does you checking every 5/10mins.
cenwesi said:
Are you serious about this? I thought PUSH mail will drain battery quicky than does you checking every 5/10mins.
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I think it will drain it faster polling every 10 mins. I've got 2 email accounts atm on push and they don't seem to have any negative impact on the battery. In fact when I had my work exchange email account on and set to poll every 30 mins the battery was a lot worse.
Its still doesn`t answer my question - why on iPhone I had unread email count on the MAIL shortcut, but I don`t have one on Sensation? Are there any special settings I need to do? Maybe it doesn`t work just on WiFi?
cenwesi said:
Are you serious about this? I thought PUSH mail will drain battery quicky than does you checking every 5/10mins.
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Nope, as long as your phone is connected to the mobile network then the mail server is pinging back to the phone to say "I've got mail for you". You only transfer the data for your mails in total. For the polling method, as well as transfering the mails, you're transferring data every time you poll and there's no mail.
Just googled to see if I could get the definitive answer and it's amazing how many people still say it the wrong way round, "don't use Push it'll drain your battery".
I'm hoping some expert can back me up on this though, so I'll say I'm 99% sure to cover myself..
To the OP, sorry, I was kind of answering your question in a roundabout way - why not try using Push email to see if it works that way? You'll save on battery life as well.
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To the OP, sorry, I was kind of answering your question in a roundabout way - why not try using Push email to see if it works that way? You'll save on battery life as well.
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See this picture, isn`t that MAIL shortcut on desktop PUSH email?
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/media/tracyandmatts_blog/windowslivewriter/htcsensationpressrelease_6840/htc-sensation_3view_2.jpg
My iPhone used to check email every 15 min, beep and show unread email count on MAIL shortcut.
Can Sensation do the same?
rbs_uk said:
See this picture, isn`t that MAIL shortcut on desktop PUSH email?
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/media/tracyandmatts_blog/windowslivewriter/htcsensationpressrelease_6840/htc-sensation_3view_2.jpg
My iPhone used to check email every 15 min, beep and show unread email count on MAIL shortcut.
Can Sensation do the same?
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That mail shortcut just fires up the app. Once in the app, press menu key -> more -> Settings -> Send & Receive -> Update Schedule to see if you are on push or a poll.
There's also Notification Settings which says whether to notify you , play a sound, vibrate, etc.
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That mail shortcut just fires up the app. Once in the app, press menu key -> more -> Settings -> Send & Receive -> Update Schedule to see if you are on push or a poll.
There's also Notification Settings which says whether to notify you , play a sound, vibrate, etc.
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I don`t see "poll/push" settings anywhere
Why Sensation created these folders in my gmail? Any idea what settings I need to change?
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in my messaging options, under windows live I have my hotmail account.
now can I set this up to check for mail ever 5 mins or so, and then when there is new mail, give me a new message tonè whilst the phone is in standby, like a sms?
cheers.
If you have Windows Mobile 6, your mail should be push from Hotmail. Mine is.
dragon_76 said:
If you have Windows Mobile 6, your mail should be push from Hotmail. Mine is.
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yep wm6 is there an option to turn it on? is this activated via my wm, or hotmail on my pc etc?
fil said:
yep wm6 is there an option to turn it on? is this activated via my wm, or hotmail on my pc etc?
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under your Live messenger option in your ppc there is option on how often you wan to check for new Email.
Since I remember there is also a option which says "as arrives". That means emeddiatly after the mail arrives in your Hotmail account the mail will be pushed to your mobile device.
I confirm this option and really after few seconds the mail arrives, it will be also received on the hand device
Anyhow this option cost a lot battery power. therefore I set it every 15-30min.
ive found that option, set it to 15mins, sent myself a mail, waited an hour nothing?
still have to manualy send/recieve
in the options for sync, it says manual, I change it to every 15 mins etc go done and done to exit it, as soon as I go bck to check it, it has reverted back to manual again?
how do I make the 15 min option stick?
Bulldog said:
under your Live messenger option in your ppc there is option on how often you wan to check for new Email.
Since I remember there is also a option which says "as arrives". That means emeddiatly after the mail arrives in your Hotmail account the mail will be pushed to your mobile device.
I confirm this option and really after few seconds the mail arrives, it will be also received on the hand device
Anyhow this option cost a lot battery power. therefore I set it every 15-30min.
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Did you try to fine-tune the push mail heartbeat rate to decrease this - or, force the handheld to operate in GPRS mode instead of 3G?
Menneisyys said:
Did you try to fine-tune the push mail heartbeat rate to decrease this - or, force the handheld to operate in GPRS mode instead of 3G?
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fine-tune, no idea what that is?
yes ive got my 3g off, as the hermes wont recieve any calls with it on? another issue posted elsewhere on here.
So i take it i need to be in 3G for it to work?
i go to windows live,
>menu
>options
>3 sync schedule
>sync frequency
then change the drop down from manual to every 15 minutes
>Done
>Done
Then when going back into it again it says manual, ive just done all this with 3g switched on?
fil said:
fine-tune, no idea what that is?
yes ive got my 3g off, as the hermes wont recieve any calls with it on? another issue posted elsewhere on here.
So i take it i need to be in 3G for it to work?
i go to windows live,
>menu
>options
>3 sync schedule
>sync frequency
then change the drop down from manual to every 15 minutes
>Done
>Done
Then when going back into it again it says manual, ive just done all this with 3g switched on?
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Yes, Exactly same thing happens to mine 'Hermes' with WM6.
But i get my e-mail as they arrive. I really wanted to to do the 'PUSH' only with in spcefied time frame! Which did not work for me for Hotmail account.
So i built this little program to assist me to do timed syncs(Check under my signature for rk-OSR
will have a try, cheers
Hello all,
I use the Outlook to access my mail, via exchange. I have a question about this. I use Direct Push mail with it so I can receive all mails as soon as I get them on the exchange server, but when I delete them on the Polaris, they still remain on the server. Wasn't it supposed to delete it on the server too? Do I need to Send/Receive to delete a msg from the exchange inbox?
Is there a more efficient program or way to use with Exchange servers? Maybe a hidden feature I didn't find?
About the GPRS Connection, I'd like to know if it's normal for the GPRS Connection (with 3G) to be disconnected every time I have a call (ingoing or outgoing), and then it tries to connect after the call. How can I prevent this?
Thanks in advance.
it depends on the way you set up the behaviour of the push mail function.
In your case, I assume the mail will be delete the next time your device will be synchro with the server (so the next time you receive a mail, or the next time you send a mail, or the nexdt time you click on send/receive).
Some times when I have a call, my 3G connection are deactivated, and switch to a classic GPRS connection.. But I never experience a full deconnection during the call.
But assuming you activate the push mail, the connection should be automatically reactivated after your call, so it is not a big issue (we are talking about an interuption of a few seconds).
Hoping this help.
Rgds
ZenG
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it depends on the way you set up the behaviour of the push mail function.
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In my case, it will delete the next time I sync with the server. But is there a way to configure the push mail?
You're right in everything you wrote. It reconnects after I end the call. I just have to be careful not to hit the "End Call" button when it's reconnecting, or it will not connect.
Thanks for the feedback.
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In my case, it will delete the next time I sync with the server. But is there a way to configure the push mail?
You're right in everything you wrote. It reconnects after I end the call. I just have to be careful not to hit the "End Call" button when it's reconnecting, or it will not connect.
Thanks for the feedback.
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unfortunately, I think mail status (delete, unread, read) is not a criteria to force a synchronization. the only criteria to run a "real time" synchro is when you receive a mail or when you send a mail (take a look in the planification options in ActiveSync).
zen_green said:
unfortunately, I think mail status (delete, unread, read) is not a criteria to force a synchronization. the only criteria to run a "real time" synchro is when you receive a mail or when you send a mail (take a look in the planification options in ActiveSync).
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Yes, you're right. Or at least I can't find any other way.
I used to own a Nokia and had the Exchange activated, it would sync all the times. If I deleted a mail on my device, it would sync with the server and delete there too. That's the reason I was asking.
Thanks for the replies, zen.
I have a Touch Pro with Sprint that I bought October 30th. I currently have it checking my Gmail, Hotmail, Work email (Exchange), and side job email (POP3). I don't use applications a whole lot but I'll occassionally use the GPS in the Windows Live app every so often to find something but not for more than 5 minutes. I do text maybe 10-20 messages a day. So I'm not doing anything that should drain the battery too horribly. When I first had Gmail and Hotmail working, battery life was decent, but i still had to charge it every night. I have Hotmail set to get email "as it arrives". Which I'm under the impression that they have it working with Push for Hotmail/Windows Live mail, correct? My Gmail is set through IMAP and checks every 60 minutes. I added my POP3 email to check "once a day". Battery life wasn't really effected. Then I added my Exchange email and set it to Push. My battery life plummetted. I couldn't get through half the day without having to charge my battery, even when I wasn't receiving emails. I don't receive too many emails with my work and even during my off hours when I'm not receiving any, it kills my battery life. I was under the impression that with Push, basically when I get an email on my server, my phone gets sent a little message telling it to check for email on the server. So its only checking email when told. I could be completely wrong, but does anyone have suggestions. I can barely make it through the day without having to charge the phone and that's using JUST email. If I try to use GPS or internet, I'm afraid my phone will die when I most need it. Thanks for any suggestions!!
Push email requires a data connection to be maintained open 24/7 - the only way to lessen the impact of this on your battery life is to force the phone into EDGE mode rather than UMTS/HSPA, it will use less power on EDGE and give you longer life, but you'll lose the various advantages of HSPA.
Your other choice is using a service that is not true push email, but their service checks your email account every so often and sends you notification through SMS to check it.. I believe "Seven" does this.. this way you don't have to maintain a data connection open 24/7.
Have you tried turning push mail off for a day or two and see if thats the real culprit here>
Having a data connection open doesn't use up much battery life. Only when its active does it chew through the battery.
AT&T Fuze - Battery Life
I had the same problem with Outlook Direct Push on my AT&T Fuze. When I changed activesync to every 10 minutes for my Outlook account, it improved my battery performance immensely!
I just set up my hotmail account as an "M$ Exchange ActiveSync" account in the default mail application. I entered m.hotmail.com as server (Found this using Google), set Peaktime from 00:00 to 23:59 and enabled push mail for peak time. Push mail seems to work properly while I'm on my data connection. But when I turn on WiFi to connect to my home router, it doesn't work anymore. I don't get the push service. The mails come in only when I open the App and it syncs. Same for Gmail, even though a mail on my Gmail came in while I syncedwith the default app. Is there any workaround for this? I read about the WiFi policy when the device is in standby, and I found that my setting was already to never turn it off. Can somebody help?
Please do also report if you have the same problem or if another Push solution for Hotmail works for you.
Does nobody here use pushmail?
I think I'm having a similar issue with my phone. I only use GMail, but even then my messages show up sluggishly when I'm connected to WiFi.
I have a GMail notifier extension in my browser, so emails consistently ping when my browser is opened. Unfortunately, the very same notification will take a couple of minutes to show up on my phone.
Don't know if that's a helpful problem report. Hopefully there's something stupid that we're missing that's causing issues?
I use Advanced Email which is great. works really well.
I have my wireless on all the time at work and at home and get push emails from hotmail fine.
So i would say maybe its the software.
Advanced email is very good. I use it alot because it can also get folders you create and not just the inbox.
Subsx said:
I use Advanced Email which is great. works really well.
I have my wireless on all the time at work and at home and get push emails from hotmail fine.
So i would say maybe its the software.
Advanced email is very good. I use it alot because it can also get folders you create and not just the inbox.
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Thanks for the suggestion, will certainly check it out and post back if it solves the problem. Still, other suggestions/solutions are very welcome.
Sorry its Enhanced Email =]
Hi everyone,
i have an question about the sync interval of gmail.
at this moment i'm using gmail so that when there is a new mail i'll be notified, this costs a lot of batterylife thru the day.
i want for example that synch interval will be done every hour?
how will i make this happen????????????
grtz roland
Push notifications
I actually believe that the official gmail application for android doesn't let you configure what you're suggesting because it uses push notifications, which means it doesn't wastes battery "asking" the internet when you have a new e-mail, but the internet tells it and it appears instantly.
The only time option in this application is about how many mails do you want your phone to storage in cache, measured in days. For example, if you type 7, you'll always be able to see much quicklier the mails you received last week.