I have a Touch Pro with Sprint that I bought October 30th. I currently have it checking my Gmail, Hotmail, Work email (Exchange), and side job email (POP3). I don't use applications a whole lot but I'll occassionally use the GPS in the Windows Live app every so often to find something but not for more than 5 minutes. I do text maybe 10-20 messages a day. So I'm not doing anything that should drain the battery too horribly. When I first had Gmail and Hotmail working, battery life was decent, but i still had to charge it every night. I have Hotmail set to get email "as it arrives". Which I'm under the impression that they have it working with Push for Hotmail/Windows Live mail, correct? My Gmail is set through IMAP and checks every 60 minutes. I added my POP3 email to check "once a day". Battery life wasn't really effected. Then I added my Exchange email and set it to Push. My battery life plummetted. I couldn't get through half the day without having to charge my battery, even when I wasn't receiving emails. I don't receive too many emails with my work and even during my off hours when I'm not receiving any, it kills my battery life. I was under the impression that with Push, basically when I get an email on my server, my phone gets sent a little message telling it to check for email on the server. So its only checking email when told. I could be completely wrong, but does anyone have suggestions. I can barely make it through the day without having to charge the phone and that's using JUST email. If I try to use GPS or internet, I'm afraid my phone will die when I most need it. Thanks for any suggestions!!
Push email requires a data connection to be maintained open 24/7 - the only way to lessen the impact of this on your battery life is to force the phone into EDGE mode rather than UMTS/HSPA, it will use less power on EDGE and give you longer life, but you'll lose the various advantages of HSPA.
Your other choice is using a service that is not true push email, but their service checks your email account every so often and sends you notification through SMS to check it.. I believe "Seven" does this.. this way you don't have to maintain a data connection open 24/7.
Have you tried turning push mail off for a day or two and see if thats the real culprit here>
Having a data connection open doesn't use up much battery life. Only when its active does it chew through the battery.
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I had the same problem with Outlook Direct Push on my AT&T Fuze. When I changed activesync to every 10 minutes for my Outlook account, it improved my battery performance immensely!
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Hi. I've been using mail2web services for a while. They were great until the last couple of weeks, now their service goes down like a pro.
So.. I started to look at alternatives.
fastmail -- nice account, IMAP.. but for the life of me I couldn't get it to "push" email to my phone. It supposedly supports IDLE, but I couldn't figure this out. Am I missing a setting somewhere? The thing never pushed mail to my phone at all.
1and1.com -- slightly more expensive exchange2003 account. No .CAB for the activesynch settings, they have to be input manually. No problem, until I set "as arrives" in scheduling and it asks me for an SMS gateway. Uh-oh. Im on Softbank and I know nothing about any gateway.
this post:
http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=410683
explains that Exchange works by sending a header SMS to instruct the phone to synch. However, mail2web never asked me for my provider or any SMS gateway.. so if this is how it works how did mail2web do it?
If anyone can shed some light on how to get this working properly, or where to find more technical details on how this stuff works I'd be a lot happier. As it is I'm having to check gmail periodically.
Thanks for your help!
I think your getting mixed up a bit sir, mail2web uses the push feature because it uses your GPRS connection to talk to it. If you ran a netstat program to see what the device is currently connected to you will see an active connection to mobile.exchange.mail2web.com, as soon as an email arrives it signals activsync on your device to synchronise your emails, the device simply tells you that there is an unread message. The connection is always on. If you have GSM signal but no active data connection you wont get your push emails.
The connection is always on but stuff is sent to and fro only when there is a change on one end (for example if you add a new contact.....it will sync with the mail2web server and the new contact will be on there aswell).
and FYI...mail2web has been a bit unreliable lately but its ok at the moment!?
Thanks for the info.
So..... do you have any advice as to how I would set up activesynch the same way to connect to 1and1?
When I set it up it asks me for the gateway, otherwise won't let me choose "when arrives" for scheduling, could this be a setting on my side, or a setting on their servers?
mail2web may be OK now, but for a non-free service 1 whole week of unreliability is enough for me. Who knows how long it'll be up before problems start again.
mrvanx said:
I think your getting mixed up a bit sir, mail2web uses the push feature because it uses your GPRS connection to talk to it. If you ran a netstat program to see what the device is currently connected to you will see an active connection to mobile.exchange.mail2web.com, as soon as an email arrives it signals activsync on your device to synchronise your emails, the device simply tells you that there is an unread message. The connection is always on. If you have GSM signal but no active data connection you wont get your push emails.
The connection is always on but stuff is sent to and fro only when there is a change on one end (for example if you add a new contact.....it will sync with the mail2web server and the new contact will be on there aswell).
and FYI...mail2web has been a bit unreliable lately but its ok at the moment!?
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mail2web seems back to normal service today... Nearly
But yes one week without push... including sometimes when your email just do not even reach your acount and bounce (ie they're just lost...) it's not really what we need
I hope in the future more and more providers will propose Exchange 2007 accounts by default...
I am also a former m2w user. canceled my account in fury after indeed more than three weeks of problems, topped with a week off.
Fortunately my school's email supports ActiveSync so I moved there.
I cannot recommend any particular commercial replacement.
I've heard a few folks using Goodlink, but I am not convinced.
Push email is no joke, once you have it and rely on it, and it goes bananas, the harm is real.
Do we know when mail2web is planning on using exchange 2007??
The minimum interval for pulling mail form the server in WM6 seems to be fifteen minutes.
Is there a possibility to decrease this interval to, let's say, 1 minute?
I can't find a registry key or initiation file for this value.
I don't know if there's a registry key, but other mail applications can be changed to 1 minute or more, but...
Why not use http://live.mail2web.com or http://www.port88.org and get a free push mail account.
Uses less data than constantly checking a mail account, and you will get an email almost instantly.
Just forward your existing mail account to either of those accounts, and cinfigure your device for that.
Then you also have the advantage of all your contacts, mail, calendar events, and notes being backed up on a server.
i have some doubts about the push using less data...
for example: with push my battery will last 1 day with 5min check it will last 2 days. GPRS is always on on both cases
pushmail has already been tried, but tends to be slow compaired to the outlook 15 minute-interval.
Hi Group,
WM 6.1 standard (non-touch) has apparently got Push capabilities together with a Hotmail account.
I tested it, setup was a breeze, set to "get eMail as they arrive" and you have got Push Mail on your smartphone...
Apparently.
Although receiving only a few small eMails a day, I got next month a HUGE invoice from my provider, detailing thousands of separate connections to GPRS every 4-5 minutes all day long.
Indeed the option "get eMail as they arrive" appears to be more or less a Microsoft fake, WM just polls the mailbox frequently enough to give the feeling of a push.
So if you haven't got a flat data plan with your provider, avoid that setting.
By the way: even if you have got one: the permanent polling will drain your battery, more than the rest of your smartphone usage.
Be aware!
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I am using the Blackberry Connect software on my HTC Fuze (on T-Mobile, with the $20 unlimited Blackberry plan). This gives me push-mail capabilities that are somewhat easy on the battery, as the Blackberry push-mail implementation is different from other solutions. Not that I would actually know the specifics, but in my tests it works a lot better and preserves battery life longer than IMAP-Idle or email polling every ten minutes or so.
Does scheduled email check work while on wifi only? I booted up phone without sim, connected to wifi and set to check email every 10 min. I did get 2 emails but no notification and no unread email count. Only when I opened email app, notifications worked and email count appeared.
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You should use Push email really.
Push email does a http request to the server with a long timeout, 30 mins I think. When it timesout it does another. So if you're getting no email, nothing is really going on. When you get an email, the http request is responded to telling your phone it has an email.
If you have it polling every 10 minutes, imagine an hour you get no email. It connects to the server, does all the checking, 6 times an hour.
In the same hour with Push email, your phone does two http requests that timeout.
The amount of data transferred, and the impact on battery, etc, is much worse with polling than Push!
Not a lot of people seem to be aware of that!
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You should use Push email really.
Push email does a http request to the server with a long timeout, 30 mins I think. When it timesout it does another. So if you're getting no email, nothing is really going on. When you get an email, the http request is responded to telling your phone it has an email.
If you have it polling every 10 minutes, imagine an hour you get no email. It connects to the server, does all the checking, 6 times an hour.
In the same hour with Push email, your phone does two http requests that timeout.
The amount of data transferred, and the impact on battery, etc, is much worse with polling than Push!
Not a lot of people seem to be aware of that!
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Are you serious about this? I thought PUSH mail will drain battery quicky than does you checking every 5/10mins.
cenwesi said:
Are you serious about this? I thought PUSH mail will drain battery quicky than does you checking every 5/10mins.
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I think it will drain it faster polling every 10 mins. I've got 2 email accounts atm on push and they don't seem to have any negative impact on the battery. In fact when I had my work exchange email account on and set to poll every 30 mins the battery was a lot worse.
Its still doesn`t answer my question - why on iPhone I had unread email count on the MAIL shortcut, but I don`t have one on Sensation? Are there any special settings I need to do? Maybe it doesn`t work just on WiFi?
cenwesi said:
Are you serious about this? I thought PUSH mail will drain battery quicky than does you checking every 5/10mins.
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Nope, as long as your phone is connected to the mobile network then the mail server is pinging back to the phone to say "I've got mail for you". You only transfer the data for your mails in total. For the polling method, as well as transfering the mails, you're transferring data every time you poll and there's no mail.
Just googled to see if I could get the definitive answer and it's amazing how many people still say it the wrong way round, "don't use Push it'll drain your battery".
I'm hoping some expert can back me up on this though, so I'll say I'm 99% sure to cover myself..
To the OP, sorry, I was kind of answering your question in a roundabout way - why not try using Push email to see if it works that way? You'll save on battery life as well.
chrisw99 said:
To the OP, sorry, I was kind of answering your question in a roundabout way - why not try using Push email to see if it works that way? You'll save on battery life as well.
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See this picture, isn`t that MAIL shortcut on desktop PUSH email?
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/media/tracyandmatts_blog/windowslivewriter/htcsensationpressrelease_6840/htc-sensation_3view_2.jpg
My iPhone used to check email every 15 min, beep and show unread email count on MAIL shortcut.
Can Sensation do the same?
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See this picture, isn`t that MAIL shortcut on desktop PUSH email?
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/media/tracyandmatts_blog/windowslivewriter/htcsensationpressrelease_6840/htc-sensation_3view_2.jpg
My iPhone used to check email every 15 min, beep and show unread email count on MAIL shortcut.
Can Sensation do the same?
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That mail shortcut just fires up the app. Once in the app, press menu key -> more -> Settings -> Send & Receive -> Update Schedule to see if you are on push or a poll.
There's also Notification Settings which says whether to notify you , play a sound, vibrate, etc.
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That mail shortcut just fires up the app. Once in the app, press menu key -> more -> Settings -> Send & Receive -> Update Schedule to see if you are on push or a poll.
There's also Notification Settings which says whether to notify you , play a sound, vibrate, etc.
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I don`t see "poll/push" settings anywhere
Why Sensation created these folders in my gmail? Any idea what settings I need to change?
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Hi everyone,
i have an question about the sync interval of gmail.
at this moment i'm using gmail so that when there is a new mail i'll be notified, this costs a lot of batterylife thru the day.
i want for example that synch interval will be done every hour?
how will i make this happen????????????
grtz roland
Push notifications
I actually believe that the official gmail application for android doesn't let you configure what you're suggesting because it uses push notifications, which means it doesn't wastes battery "asking" the internet when you have a new e-mail, but the internet tells it and it appears instantly.
The only time option in this application is about how many mails do you want your phone to storage in cache, measured in days. For example, if you type 7, you'll always be able to see much quicklier the mails you received last week.