[Q] HTC Inspire4G (questions) - HTC Inspire 4G

Well, first of all, i don't live in US, but i'm a BIG fan of Android and really need an upgrade from my old Moto Cliq.
The Inspire is compatible with my local 3g and 4g network,and the price is really good.. but there is something weird that haves me confused.
How does Radio files work here? I saw in some ROMS threads that you need to have "X" radio version so it works ok. I Don't want to flash any Radio file as i don't want to screw up my 3G/4G.
2nd Question: Can you unbrick an Inspire 4g? I Bricked my Cliq once and was really happy i could unbrick it (fhew).
Thanks XDA!
PD: Just 2 general questions... what kind of results you could expect in quadrant? The phone is really smooth for games and UI?

BurnRubber90 said:
Well, first of all, i don't live in US, but i'm a BIG fan of Android and really need an upgrade from my old Moto Cliq.
The Inspire is compatible with my local 3g and 4g network,and the price is really good.. but there is something weird that haves me confused.
How does Radio files work here? I saw in some ROMS threads that you need to have "X" radio version so it works ok. I Don't want to flash any Radio file as i don't want to screw up my 3G/4G.
2nd Question: Can you unbrick an Inspire 4g? I Bricked my Cliq once and was really happy i could unbrick it (fhew).
Thanks XDA!
PD: Just 2 general questions... what kind of results you could expect in quadrant? The phone is really smooth for games and UI?
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Flashing a radio isn't any harder than the rest of the rooting process, you'll be able to fix it. I haven't heard of anyone hard-bricking an Inspire, but I've soft-bricked mine, battery pull fixed it. If you have any rom problems you can always go back to stock.
As for quadrant I don't know about stock settings but with my current settings(overclocked to 1.3ghz) I get about 2500-2700 depending on my cpu governor. But just because I haven't gotten a chance to post this yet. This is my BEST quadrant ever. Overclocked to 2.0ghz(unsafe! never go over 1.8) with performance governor. I can't repeat this because now every time I try to set my cpu that high it locks up, but i got a pretty epic score.

wow, awesome. Can't wait to put my hands on this bad boy.
@Quadrant scores : That basically makes my Cliq look like it's from the 80's lol.
Thanks for your quick responses!

You can hard brick it with a bad radio flash. but if you check md5 sums your good to go. If you get good speed and signal you can stick with the stock radio. You never HAVE to flash a radio unless your unhappy with it. however after flashing roms its good practice to flash the ril files for your radio. different roms come with different rils but NEVER replace your radio. I got quadrant scores of 3600 with my inspire but quadrant should be taken with a grain of salt. Ive had quadrant differ over 800 points from one run to another back to back. dont even bother with quadrant scores go by how it feels under your fingers

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Just returned Atrix and picked up this phone...

Never even heard of it until the guy at the store pointed it out. I figured I was still in my return policy so why the heck not... So I get it home and turn it on and I gotta say... WOW! Even with a stock image from the store, this thing makes the atrix look like an old man. Moto did something with that phone that made it laughable! It couldnt even produce the color yellow...
Anyway...
Is this phone as hard to ROM as it appears? I was checking the dev section and I gotta say.. it looked a little crazy. Captivate was pretty straight forward - root, download CMW, flash rom. Is this that difficult or am I just making more of it than it really is? I couldnt figure out what a gold card was lol..
Thanks
Did the same thing
Just brought my Atrix back as well and got the Inspire.. I liked the front camera and HDMI port but they arent dealbreakers. Fingerprint thing was cool but IM not James Bond so I didn't care.
If I wanted a locked down phone I'd by an iPhone. Motorola is total joke. You can't remove that ridiculously bloated Motoblur and having my Facebook contacts lumped in with my regular contacts drove me insane. Resolution was amazing but its a wash cause the colors are atrocious. On top of the scam that the dual core processor only works on the laptop dock....sorry Motorola, try again some other day.
Atrix= Epic Fail
PSUfan5 (5 isn't for LJ is it? lol),
I have both the atrix and inspire and i have to agree with you that even though spec wise the atrix is superior, but in terms of useablitiy and functionality the inspire and HTC sense is king... plus if your a flash-a-holic like myself then you've found a new home...
that being said, although the rooting of the inspire looks ruff, if you take your time and follow attn1 instructions step by step you should be good to go, plus there are youtube videos showing you visually how to as well... and the user community is pretty helpful... also u can use irc to get real time help...
the dev support is up there with the best, i mean with in the first few days we have had custom roms, kernels that enable overclocking, teathering (wifi and usb), clockwork for easy flashing, cm7 support so you have gbread right of the bat, and sound fixes/performance fixes to jazz up your phone...
even though is "only" a 1 ghz processor as opposed the the dual core, I find the second generation snapdragons pretty zippy and no lag, which is weird because i actually experienced some with my atrix and its dual core (maybe its just moto blur)... oh and the upload/download speed are not as capped as the atrix, my inspire gets 3.5 down and 1.6 up, where as my atrix got 3.1 down but 0.4 up
Just my two cents
Welcome to the HTC Inspire "4g" <--- not really 4g
If you have any questions feel free to ask
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Never even heard of it until the guy at the store pointed it out. I figured I was still in my return policy so why the heck not... So I get it home and turn it on and I gotta say... WOW! Even with a stock image from the store, this thing makes the atrix look like an old man. Moto did something with that phone that made it laughable! It couldnt even produce the color yellow...
Anyway...
Is this phone as hard to ROM as it appears? I was checking the dev section and I gotta say.. it looked a little crazy. Captivate was pretty straight forward - root, download CMW, flash rom. Is this that difficult or am I just making more of it than it really is? I couldnt figure out what a gold card was lol..
Thanks
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Same process - it's just obtaining root is a little more difficult. There is a hack kit in the dev section that will walk you through the process, and a "1 click" GUI has also recently been released in the Dev section
Flash has been acting up for me... it plays then gets garbled etc... it was playing fine and fast before - now its choppy and ugly. wonder what happened... hmm.
Welcome and good choice! Rooting and timing isn't that bad
psufan5 said:
Never even heard of it until the guy at the store pointed it out. I figured I was still in my return policy so why the heck not... So I get it home and turn it on and I gotta say... WOW! Even with a stock image from the store, this thing makes the atrix look like an old man. Moto did something with that phone that made it laughable! It couldnt even produce the color yellow...
Anyway...
Is this phone as hard to ROM as it appears? I was checking the dev section and I gotta say.. it looked a little crazy. Captivate was pretty straight forward - root, download CMW, flash rom. Is this that difficult or am I just making more of it than it really is? I couldnt figure out what a gold card was lol..
Thanks
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Welcome! Just returned my Atrix for the Inspire few days back. The Atrix needs another 6 months of software and firmware refinement and polish, to even come close. Motoblur is ugly.
Rooting process complete with a few hiccups - had to manually copy a few files to the phone that for some reason werent there.
All in all, im really impressed with this phone. I havent tested the battery much but I turned off most syncing etc. Hopefully ill get good life out of it!

From Inspire to Atrix back to Inspire :D

I really enjoyed the Inspire but I started to get all crazy reception issues where I couldnt make a call or receive sometimes. Anyone else having these issues? Someone at the att store said alot of ppl are complaining of this.
Yesterday I exchanged for the atrix and it felt a lil bit more snappy, nothing to wow me but I could make calls and receive, no issues at all. My main issue was it would hardly charge on usb from any pc I used, and it would get really hot trying so right there I said, this is going back. In less than 24hrs I was back at the AT&T store to get a new inspire.
I really dont want to have any reception issues, and I almost believe all the flashing roms, radios, kernels, I messed something up along the way. Heck, Im even scared to root now. I want to use the phone totally stock and make sure it works great whereever I am before I root even. I'm also wondering if rooting causes battery to drain quicker.
So I ask all you experienced Android users/developers. Am I right in believing that all the flashing I've done might of messed my reception? Even maybe rooting might have messed something up? If not, is there a way to make a complete backup right now, so I can go right back to this when I do begin to root and what not. I almost feel like the stock rom, when I went back to it and unrooted before I returned the last inspire made no difference. The new Inspire seems to hold a better signal now. So can I back up the current stock rom before I do anything?
Interested to hear what advice this drums up. I went from Atrix (painfully bad PenTile LCD, shamelessly locked down) to Inspire back to my old N1 because I got a few days of no signal and missed calls in the office. I read recently that there's some sort of leaked magical radio that fixes a lot of the issues, so I'm keeping an eye towards the Inspire. $20 at Costco is a worthy use of my contract upgrade.
Yeah, there are other phones coming down the pike. I'm stuck with AT&T and given this is an otherwise solid phone and how awesome HTC tech support has been with my N1 I don't want to go with another mfr. Also Optimus 3D has only 512MB RAM? WTF?
If you have patience, your issues will be ironed out. Inspire ROMs and development is still kind of early.
If you just be patient, GPS...reception....bugs....will all be a thing of the past. Both devices are excellent. HTC build quality and 'openness' is something to envy. Just relax, I think you made a wise choice.
Just out of curiosity, what rom were you running when you started having issues? I'm on stock with root and have yet to have any problems with gps or reception.
SysAdmNj said:
I really enjoyed the Inspire but I started to get all crazy reception issues where I couldnt make a call or receive sometimes. Anyone else having these issues? Someone at the att store said alot of ppl are complaining of this.
Yesterday I exchanged for the atrix and it felt a lil bit more snappy, nothing to wow me but I could make calls and receive, no issues at all. My main issue was it would hardly charge on usb from any pc I used, and it would get really hot trying so right there I said, this is going back. In less than 24hrs I was back at the AT&T store to get a new inspire.
I really dont want to have any reception issues, and I almost believe all the flashing roms, radios, kernels, I messed something up along the way. Heck, Im even scared to root now. I want to use the phone totally stock and make sure it works great whereever I am before I root even. I'm also wondering if rooting causes battery to drain quicker.
So I ask all you experienced Android users/developers. Am I right in believing that all the flashing I've done might of messed my reception? Even maybe rooting might have messed something up? If not, is there a way to make a complete backup right now, so I can go right back to this when I do begin to root and what not. I almost feel like the stock rom, when I went back to it and unrooted before I returned the last inspire made no difference. The new Inspire seems to hold a better signal now. So can I back up the current stock rom before I do anything?
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pokey9000 said:
Interested to hear what advice this drums up. I went from Atrix (painfully bad PenTile LCD, shamelessly locked down) to Inspire back to my old N1 because I got a few days of no signal and missed calls in the office. I read recently that there's some sort of leaked magical radio that fixes a lot of the issues, so I'm keeping an eye towards the Inspire. $20 at Costco is a worthy use of my contract upgrade.
Yeah, there are other phones coming down the pike. I'm stuck with AT&T and given this is an otherwise solid phone and how awesome HTC tech support has been with my N1 I don't want to go with another mfr. Also Optimus 3D has only 512MB RAM? WTF?
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nailed my main problems right there (in bold)...
Nice to see you lingering in the inspire forums DG
I purchased the Inspire the day it came out and absolutely loved it. That one had major issues with the screen. It would not register my touch about 80% of the time. So I exchanged that one for another Inspire and the second one had all sorts of problems. Dropped calls, calls no received, no VM notification, random reboots, and of course the always popular, locked phone that required a battery pull.
At that point I just thought the Inspire was not that great of a phone so I exchanged for the Atrix. When the phone arrived I knew two seconds after it booted that I hated the phone. It felt cheap, it was tiny, and Motoblur reminded me too much of TouchWiz - which is a shame because the guts of the phone should have made it a monster but Moto has a long way to go with their Motoblur. Within 2 hours of getting the Atrix I took it back.
So, I am on my third Inspire and so far so good. No missed calls, dropped calls, texts, no reboots, no locks, no problems at all. Right now I am rooted running the stock rom. I have tried a few different roms - RCMiXHD_v5X, LeeDroid_HD v2.2.2, and Android Revolution 4G. I had GPS issues with LeeDroid and Revolution and data problems with RCMiXHD. The phone has performed pretty dang good with root+Stock so I will probably keep it that way. Hopefully a GB version will drop soon because I do like the extra features that brings.
Anyway, thats just my experience.
This thread is getting some good information placed in it, and a good OP as well.
My recommendation is that you follow the hack kit, but stick to ROMs based off of the Stock Inspire ROM for now. As much as I enjoy a UV/OC kernal, I can't say it's making a huge impact in my day-to-day use of this phone. I'm running AR 3.2, without any issues right now on the stock inspire radio, but my next flash will probably be a ROM like ClearDroid.
I also wish we had an easy stock backup procedure, but as far as i know we're stuck with the reflash + s-off combo.
As a side note: Where the heck did DG come from?! It's good to see you popping your head in here. I started with your Super-rooter and lived on Cognition and Perception for my Captivate.
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~SNIP~ Hopefully a GB version will drop soon because I do like the extra features that brings.
Anyway, thats just my experience.
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CoreDroid HD 4.6
RCMix HD 5.3
Android Revolution HD 4.0
MIUI
All of those are Gingerbread ROMs, there's always CM7, and 2 devs are currently working on an AOSP
Im not sure which rom was the culprit, I dont want to bad mouth anyones work as it could of just been my doing and I definitely appreciate the hard work and effort the devs put in. But I did experience a few issues trying the revolution rom, I tried different versions. But I also tried several other roms so I cant really pinpoint. I know I like the revolution but would have to leave it because of issues, I kept trying though.
I cant really recall as battery life hasnt been a huge issue for me on the inspire, but for everyone that has rooted their phone, would you say battery life improved or worsened? I'm probably going to root later on tonight.
Oh and why no 'one click' root/unroot scripts for the Inspire yet? Just wondering, because even the atrix had a one click root script.
CoreDroid HD 4.6
RCMix HD 5.3
Android Revolution HD 4.0
MIUI
All of those are Gingerbread ROMs, there's always CM7, and 2 devs are currently working on an AOSP
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Yeah I meant more of a legit release not a leaked version. I have tried RCMix and Adroid Revolution and had issues with both. Nothing major but enough for me to go back to stock.
I'm having an oposite dilemma.. I first bought the Atrix and then after i noticed a little lag when unlocking the device i bought the Inspire.. I had the Atrix for 2 weeks and i have had the Inspire for 1 week.
What i have noticed about the Inspire is that when I try to open a .doc file thats only 62kb large, its not nearly as smooth as the Atrix with the scrolling and double tapping to zoom in. I dont know why this is... 62kb is pretty small. When i had the Atrix, it opened the same file super fast and there was no lag at all..
Also, with websites like adultswim and phonedog which has a lot of flash, the Inspire lags quite a bit compared to the Atrix which has little to no lag.
Im very tempted to go back to the Atrix and just live with the little bit of lag when unlocking.. IDK what i should do..
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I'm having an oposite dilemma.. I first bought the Atrix and then after i noticed a little lag when unlocking the device i bought the Inspire.. I had the Atrix for 2 weeks and i have had the Inspire for 1 week.
What i have noticed about the Inspire is that when I try to open a .doc file thats only 62kb large, its not nearly as smooth as the Atrix with the scrolling and double tapping to zoom in. I dont know why this is... 62kb is pretty small. When i had the Atrix, it opened the same file super fast and there was no lag at all..
Also, with websites like adultswim and phonedog which has a lot of flash, the Inspire lags quite a bit compared to the Atrix which has little to no lag.
Im very tempted to go back to the Atrix and just live with the little bit of lag when unlocking.. IDK what i should do..
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Well good luck in your decision. I dont doubt the Atrix was a tad faster at some things left stock, but that wasnt a main concern for me as I know on the Inspire a rom here a kernel there can remedy that.
I've actually opened .doc and .xls files close to that size on a daily basis with no real lag issue. Then again I'm using Documents To Go, app I used from my Blackberry days. Works pretty smoothly.
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Well good luck in your decision. I dont doubt the Atrix was a tad faster at some things left stock, but that wasnt a main concern for me as I know on the Inspire a rom here a kernel there can remedy that.
I've actually opened .doc and .xls files close to that size on a daily basis with no real lag issue. Then again I'm using Documents To Go, app I used from my Blackberry days. Works pretty smoothly.
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Thats weird cause i used quickoffice to open the .doc and it was really laggy just now, being on the phone at the same time..
Though the Inspire is able the flash roms ....Atrix is by far a better phone. I've played with cousins Inspire, it doesn't compare to my Atrix
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I m running the rooted stock rom self-cleaned from the ATT bloat with TiBU in chuck norris mode... No problem with my GPS, no problem with the reception... battery life around one day of pretty intensive use... I notice altough I m not having issues as i mentioned the signal's strength displayed is always pretty low (2/3 on 5)...
I tried ClearDroid but since it was pretty much the same as my 'self-purified' stock i just got back to it...
I don't think the reception's issue was related to the rooting itself... some device is just kinda defective from factory...
In the end it boils down to personal preferences.
I had both and got rid of the Atrix for the Inspire because of screen size and its speedy as is out the box. Don't really see the need for a Dual CoreS unless I'm gonna shell out more cash for the laptop Which I see is pointless since I might as well lug around my Vaio i7. In the end I'm happy with the Inspires build quality and performance.
AT&T U.S. Rooted
CoreDroid 2.3.3 v4.6 HD
Inspire 4G / Desire HD
rjayflo said:
Though the Inspire is able the flash roms ....Atrix is by far a better phone. I've played with cousins Inspire, it doesn't compare to my Atrix
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It depends on your needs/preferences. Specs wise, yes the Atrix might be better but the Atrix does have its issues as well which irked me enough to come back to the Inspire which I liked so much I'm willing to give it a second try. One thing is for sure, I cant see myself getting another Motorola device anytime soon. Been there a few times, and had bad experiences with their locked devices. HTC has been the better experience for me so far and I'm enjoying the Inspire more than I did the Atrix.
Very true about preference...I like the Inspire's size wouldn't want to go bigger. Many hate motor for locking down the BL....but it seems like HTC will be doing the same on future devices
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Happy to see DG posting over here. I hope that means we'll be seeing more of him

Anyone got the default kernel?

Infusion will not cease bricking my phone every 24 hours when I have it installed. I need the default kernel. This infuse is about to be the third $200 on-contract smartphone I've created a hole in my wall with in the last 3 months.. I swear. Never touching anything made by Samsung again. or any of bedwa's kernels...
harsh..........lol
Bedwa Makes great kernels, maybe try the 1.0 instead of the 1.1 and you can always use the community Kernel, i think thats what gtg uses anyway.
i have been thru, Moto Defy, Droid X, Captivate, and now the Infuse. the Rom/Rooting/mods and all that have been Fun and enjoyable.....if this is your third one that your about to put through a wall......im thinking User Error<<<<<lol
No. The infuse is a huge pile that deserves to be put on the list of worst products ever built. I used to have an android tab and I could change ROMs on it, and literally be from one rom to the next in 120 seconds.
TheNetwork said:
No. The infuse is a huge pile that deserves to be put on the list of worst products ever built. I used to have an android tab and I could change ROMs on it, and literally be from one rom to the next in 120 seconds.
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Was the Tab number 1 or 2 hole in the wall? I have been off and on using the Infusion Kernel(s) since I got the Infuse over a month ago and have had zero issues. Are you overclocking or under volting? If so start there and remove it. Go with the Infuse clocks and defaults. Start small and work things up from there you may be trying to go hot to quick and your processor may not be able to overclock as high as it should be able to. If you are getting a solid brick (which I am in question about what you mean by brick) is this where you are just seeing sluggish performance and getting frustrated at that or is a legit brick where the phone will not power or giving a boot loop after reboot? If you explain a little bit more in detail about what you are seeing other than bashing a phone that is really only doing what you are telling it to do and by what you are putting into it. Maybe if your having a problem with the Kernel maybe its not compatible with a ROM you are trying to use...Im not bashing just trying to see if there is a solution to your issue that can be identified and resolved for you so you can enjoy the phone the way it is intended.
No issues here with 1.0...had limited issues with 1.1
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TheNetwork said:
No. The infuse is a huge pile that deserves to be put on the list of worst products ever built. I used to have an android tab and I could change ROMs on it, and literally be from one rom to the next in 120 seconds.
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I change ROMs frequently and have never had a problem doing it quickly and easily on my Infuse. We're talking from Froyo to Gingerbread, from stock to Infused to CM7 to MIUI and back - all that stuff very easily. It's a shame you're having such a crappy experience but I just had to post after I read your post because I'm telling you - the Infuse is quite the fine device and works very well. I even have stellar GPS performance.
Best of luck to you.
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I change ROMs frequently and have never had a problem doing it quickly and easily on my Infuse. We're talking from Froyo to Gingerbread, from stock to Infused to CM7 to MIUI and back - all that stuff very easily. It's a shame you're having such a crappy experience but I just had to post after I read your post because I'm telling you - the Infuse is quite the fine device and works very well. I even have stellar GPS performance.
Best of luck to you.
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See, that's another reason to ignore you people praising it. I must have one of their ancient infuses because mine doesn't connect to GPS in any less than 5 minutes outdoors, and I'd have an orgasm if it could find one satellite next to a window inside. I got it in July.
TheNetwork said:
See, that's another reason to ignore you people praising it. I must have one of their ancient infuses because mine doesn't connect to GPS in any less than 5 minutes outdoors, and I'd have an orgasm if it could find one satellite next to a window inside. I got it in July.
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Maybe you have a defective device? Ever think of that? I bought mine on launch day and just haven't had any of the weird issues anyone speaks of around here. Listen bud. I know you're pissed but golee just go back to ATT and ask for a replacement device. You did buy insurance, right?
Start by flashing back to stock using Ultimate Unbrick, perform some diagnostic testing and move on. Ignore me all you want. I'm the guy with an Infuse that works perfectly, after all.
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Maybe you have a defective device? Ever think of that? I bought mine on launch day and just haven't had any of the weird issues anyone speaks of around here. Listen bud. I know you're pissed but golee just go back to ATT and ask for a replacement device. You did buy insurance, right?
Start by flashing back to stock using Ultimate Unbrick, perform some diagnostic testing and move on. Ignore me all you want. I'm the guy with an Infuse that works perfectly, after all.
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Why would I have bought insurance?
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Why would I have bought insurance?
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In case it gets lost, stolen or you need advance replacement.
Note that Infusion-GB 1.0/1.1 won't work if he's on Froyo.
The final Infusion Froyo release unfortunately had BLN... BLN is evil.
Try Defuse 1.4 (not 1.5 - that has BLN) if you're on Froyo
I've tried Dani's modification of hellraiser and it's absoultely beautiful and very functional so far.

Coming Back to the Tbolt

Okay so I was on a few different LTE devices for a while (Charge and Revo) , and I am about to be back on a Thunderbolt in a few days.
When I was originally on the Tbolt, it was April, we barely had a Gingerbread Leak and I believe MR2 had been leaking around.
My question to you guys is, what's the best root method currently (ADB, or Revolutionary?) and also....
What radio should I be on when I get the device to be able to enjoy most of the roms out there. I'm hoping to be able to enjoy some Gingerbread.
Sorry for the newbness as I have been a crack flasher with Odin and other Samsung stuff that I completely lost track of Tbolt development.
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Okay so I was on a few different LTE devices for a while (Charge and Revo) , and I am about to be back on a Thunderbolt in a few days.
When I was originally on the Tbolt, it was April, we barely had a Gingerbread Leak and I believe MR2 had been leaking around.
My question to you guys is, what's the best root method currently (ADB, or Revolutionary?) and also....
What radio should I be on when I get the device to be able to enjoy most of the roms out there. I'm hoping to be able to enjoy some Gingerbread.
Sorry for the newbness as I have been a crack flasher with Odin and other Samsung stuff that I completely lost track of Tbolt development.
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It's all in my thread linked in my sig. If you have any questions, post them there or PM me and I'll be happy to get you up to speed.
haha, what a coincidence, i just got done reading your entire thread.
So basically its the same as before.. all GB based roms are working on ANY MR2 radio.
Gotcha
What radio do you recommend? at the time when I left the Tbolt, MR2 was causing reboots on people.
Also, is the recovery that revolutionary comes with a decent one in terms of being able to perform backups, etc?
Samsuck said:
haha, what a coincidence, i just got done reading your entire thread.
So basically its the same as before.. all GB based roms are working on ANY MR2 radio.
Gotcha
What radio do you recommend? at the time when I left the Tbolt, MR2 was causing reboots on people.
Also, is the recovery that revolutionary comes with a decent one in terms of being able to perform backups, etc?
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best radio is subjective.
some people for some reason still believe radios from 6 months ago are better than current ones.
Samsuck said:
haha, what a coincidence, i just got done reading your entire thread.
So basically its the same as before.. all GB based roms are working on ANY MR2 radio.
Gotcha
What radio do you recommend? at the time when I left the Tbolt, MR2 was causing reboots on people.
Also, is the recovery that revolutionary comes with a decent one in terms of being able to perform backups, etc?
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The most recent CWM is good, but the early 5.x releases had some issues. Not sure what the newest one is. I'm still on 3.something... cuz it just works.
There's a lot of opinion in radios. Right now I'm using the RUU 1.70 CDMA radio with the RUU 2.11.605.3 LTE radio. Generally there's not a big difference. I'd say the 2.10 and newer radios, including the 1.70 radios, are probably the most popular at the moment.
I seem to get better download speeds with the 802 radio than the 906. Not sure about the lte one yet though. Is there a combined release of the 906 for cdma and lte
Running Team Name SoaB .73, using XDA premium
Samsuck said:
Okay so I was on a few different LTE devices for a while (Charge and Revo) , and I am about to be back on a Thunderbolt in a few days.
When I was originally on the Tbolt, it was April, we barely had a Gingerbread Leak and I believe MR2 had been leaking around.
My question to you guys is, what's the best root method currently (ADB, or Revolutionary?) and also....
What radio should I be on when I get the device to be able to enjoy most of the roms out there. I'm hoping to be able to enjoy some Gingerbread.
Sorry for the newbness as I have been a crack flasher with Odin and other Samsung stuff that I completely lost track of Tbolt development.
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The radio could be anyone of the GB radios. Best bet is to take a few for a drive and see what works best for you. I use the 802 with good results. I used Revolutionary and everything was soooooo easy. The recovery in revolutionary is very easy too. The only big question is what ROM to use. I would suggest to try the one that lasts a long time (name omitted because of a spat between this forum and their Devs). I hope you can read beween the lines. And there's a host of AOSP ROM's too. Good luck and let us know what you choose.
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The radio could be anyone of the GB radios. Best bet is to take a few for a drive and see what works best for you. I use the 802 with good results. I used Revolutionary and everything was soooooo easy. The recovery in revolutionary is very easy too. The only big question is what ROM to use. I would suggest to try the one that lasts a long time (name omitted because of a spat between this forum and their Devs). I hope you can read beween the lines. And there's a host of AOSP ROM's too. Good luck and let us know what you choose.
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Don't worry, I know who you are referring too, i was running their rom when I originally left the Tbolt. I hear they are some bad a mofo's..
I can find their stuff on Rootzwiki
Thanks everyone for all the help. I have one more question, with the OTA that is about to come out. Is that going to be rootable? I'm afraid the phone VZW ships me will already have the update

Planning to get a Sensation, worth it?

Hello community,
I have an Atrix, and it is quite old now... I want a larger screen
Planning to get a Sensation to replace it, and i have some questions to ask about it:
1. How is the battery life?
Would it get very hot while using?
2. How is the build quality? ie. any chance to be easily broken?
I havd my Atrix repaired several times because of digitizer.
3. Are the current ICS roms stable enough?
And, does unlocking bootloader/flashing a custom rom easy?
How about gaming?
4. Sensation's spec better than Atrix or not?
I mean, for normal web or apps using, 768MB ram is enough?
Thanks for any advices.
tennyleaz said:
Hello community,
I have an Atrix, and it is quite old now... I want a larger screen
Planning to get a Sensation to replace it, and i have some questions to ask about it:
1. How is the battery life?
Would it get very hot while using?
2. How is the build quality? ie. any chance to be easily broken?
I havd my Atrix repaired several times because of digitizer.
3. Are the current ICS roms stable enough?
And, does unlocking bootloader/flashing a custom rom easy?
How about gaming?
4. Sensation's spec better than Atrix or not?
I mean, for normal web or apps using, 768MB ram is enough?
Thanks for any advices.
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Ok so not biased answer it worth it but if you can expand your budget little bit more might aswell get a galaxy nexus however for your question :
#1 : battery life is pure crap on stock battery unless you get an anker otherwise you can get more then 1-2 hours screen on time..
It depends how you use your phone if you game alot alot ot heats up easily but i do normal use sometimes it gets hot but overall it isn't that bad..
#2 : build quality is quite good feels good in the hand it isnt easily breakable but keep in mind if you drop your sensation there is always a chance of cracking the screen...
#3 : yes ics roms are really stable most of the have 90% of the things working there is some small issues such as on aosp roms or cm9 wiping sd card will hard brick your phone otherwise things like camera and so on works...
i cant really answer to this one as my phone was already s-off unlocked bootloader but from the forums it seems quite hard...
Gaming is good if you'd ask me but it still lags a little bit on gta 3
#4 : yes specs are better and ram is plenty enough on sense rom i always have 250mb free and on aosp roms about 340mb free..
But as i said having a anker is a must if your an moderate user !
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.
tennyleaz said:
Hello community,
I have an Atrix, and it is quite old now... I want a larger screen
Planning to get a Sensation to replace it, and i have some questions to ask about it:
1. How is the battery life?
Would it get very hot while using?
2. How is the build quality? ie. any chance to be easily broken?
I havd my Atrix repaired several times because of digitizer.
3. Are the current ICS roms stable enough?
And, does unlocking bootloader/flashing a custom rom easy?
How about gaming?
4. Sensation's spec better than Atrix or not?
I mean, for normal web or apps using, 768MB ram is enough?
Thanks for any advices.
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1. decent/average.. and yea it gets hot.. depends on your kernel setup too
2. there are several hardware defects that affect random people. digitizer, deathgrip, low speaker quality, etc.. mines been fine so i cant really add much to this. pretty solid build though, sort of typical of HTC
3. 90-99.9% stable, still a few things here and there.. not necessarily to do with our phone but with ICS in general. VERY easy to unlock and root and get s-off.. but ive been doing this to htc phones for years so i guess experience counts. gaming is as it should be. some games might not work with certain sense 4.0 or other ICS roms for some. everything works for me though
4. yes. especially if you decide to do the CM/MIUI/AOSP/AOKP route (aka sense-less, lol) youll have more than enough free memory
shahkam said:
#3 : yes ics roms are really stable most of the have 90% of the things working there is some small issues such as on aosp roms or cm9 wiping sd card will hard brick your phone otherwise things like camera and so on works...
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The bug about it reformatting the NAND and not the SD card has been fixed and is no longer present in the current ASOP or AOKP builds, but to be safe I recommend only using AOSP or AOKP builds from April to current. But the rest of the info you gave is pretty spot on,
Also the current method of S-off for Hboot versions 1.21.0000 and up is Juopunutbear S-off is a little tricky because you have to use the wire trick. But if you follow the guides that are in this forum you should not have to much trouble.
T-Macgnolia said:
The bug about it reformatting the NAND and not the SD card has been fixed and is no longer present in the current ASOP or AOKP builds, but to be safe I recommend only using AOSP or AOKP builds from April to current. But the rest of the info you gave is pretty spot on,
Also the current method of S-off for Hboot versions 1.21.0000 and up is Juopunutbear S-off is a little tricky because you have to use the wire trick. But if you follow the guides that are in this forum you should not have to much trouble.
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Yeah forgot that vorbeth fixed it in his cm9 build sorry so now what we are close to like a 95% working ice cream sandwich rom?
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.
Ok, thanks for informations.
A Sensation in Taiwan now is priced about 280~300USD, just fit my budget.
I'm reading the s-off guide... somewhat complicated than motorola devices, but I think I can make it.
How about the battery life on ICS roms vs. GB roms?
I have a Htc Senseation and ive had heaps of phones, battery life for me..is okish with screen brightness lowered but i would like to get a anker battery,
The ICS Roms are really Good for me i love the Team PKMN with the little tweaks makes it very more..my own
Ive only had about 3 issues, 1 Boot looping..and that was due to my own fault.
2 a Camera issue with a rom but that was due to my own error
3 a couple of random shutdowns from something but again..my own fault.
Basically i have Setcpu , System Tuner , And cputuner running
im 18 and i was able to root it so if you have any experience rooting..you should had NO issues, just post and ask around most people are very helpful to guide you with a how to So Far my fav phone.
tennyleaz said:
Ok, thanks for informations.
A Sensation in Taiwan now is priced about 280~300USD, just fit my budget.
I'm reading the s-off guide... somewhat complicated than motorola devices, but I think I can make it.
How about the battery life on ICS roms vs. GB roms?
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On stock GB & battery I was getting 12hrs life with only 1 or 2hr screen time, with ICS (VI ROM) and Anker battery I get between 1 and 2 days life and up to 9hrs screen time.
Everyone's usage is different but there's nothing wrong with the hardware.
The only limitation is the custom ROM scene, most developers bypassed or moved on from the Sensation. Custom ROMs are miles better than stock, but development is pretty static now.
Based on my personal experience, I will not buy a HTC phone again. This is a shame considering I have the Desire as well.
I have been plagued by the following problems:
death grip ( i know most phones experience this at some point, but this is no excuse )
missed calls - even with a full signal strength, my phone would not even ring
reboots at random intervals
HTC do make good phones, but apparently the One X on the Vodafone UK network is also plagued by signal loss.
I love my sensation!
Yes its worth getting! battery life can be worked with I got a long lasting battery it makes a huge difference! Rooting can be difficult depending on your h boot version but I promise its well worth it and very do able. Just follow the guide to s off and rooting. You will do fine. Ice Never had problems with my device and I flash a lot. Mine has proven sturdy and solid. I have no complaints. I really enjoy everything about my device! Ics custom roms have proven to be more stable than stock roms! ice never got a reboot on a custom ROM and ice tried several, even sense 4. I can honestly say I'm still enjoying my device! Thanks to the developers here at xda. If your rooted you make your device rudely your own. if you don't like something just change it. the customization is wonderful! You can create a device thats truely yours with the help of rooting, roms, kernels, and mods! Its always fresh never boreing! I think you will be completely happy. I know I am! Your not stuck with something you don't like because you change and modify it to what you want. I don't understand how anyone can complain about that! You have the ability to change it on the deepest levels. My advice is to try many roms until you find what suits you! Then you can change kernels and mods and really customize your device. Warning its highly addictive lol. bottom line IM still happy after a year. I think you will be also. I must say rooting is a must! Also s off. Then you will be on your way to making your device custom AND TRUELY your own creation! Enjoy every step of the way! I think you will love it! I know I do. Best of luck and have fun!
Sent from my Sensation using xda premium
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On stock GB & battery I was getting 12hrs life with only 1 or 2hr screen time, with ICS (VI ROM) and Anker battery I get between 1 and 2 days life and up to 9hrs screen time.
Everyone's usage is different but there's nothing wrong with the hardware.
The only limitation is the custom ROM scene, most developers bypassed or moved on from the Sensation. Custom ROMs are miles better than stock, but development is pretty static now.
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Your not getting 9h screen on time no matter what post some pics! I the sgs3 which has 2100mah cannot achieve that...
By the way add like 40$ more and you can get the galaxy nexus off the market place here on xda really at that price it doesn't worth it...
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.
tennyleaz said:
And, does unlocking bootloader/flashing a custom rom easy?
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Just to chip in here, I'm a complete noob at this stuff but a few days ago I just followed this guide and went from stock ICS to rooted with a custom ROM in only a few hours, and much of that was spent waiting for files to download. I highly recommend you follow it, and if you do, modify step 4b a little bit. Everything Superwipe does can be done by a 4EXT wipe, so replace step 4b with:
Download the custom ROM you want, you don't need Superwipe
Place the zip on your sd card
Reboot into recovery
Perform a full wipe ("wipe | format" --> "format all partitions (except sd card)")
Enable smartflash ("tools" --> "enable 4EXT SmartFlash")
Flash the new ROM ("install from sd card" --> "choose zip from sd card" --> select zip)
And once you're rooted you can repeat this process as many times as you want each time you want to try out a new ROM
HTC sensation is worth every penny. I am inloved with this phone. I have been using one since January. I rooted it and installed a custom ROM on it. The phone fits perfectly with my needs. It is fast enough, nice design, good material quality so, yeah, I reccomend it.
Now, is it possible for me to downgrade 4est recovery from v2.... to v.1 and stuff RC?
The damn speaker is so awesome, I've made a conscious decision not to buy a HTC phone again. Galaxy s 3 or the eagerly awaited Google nexus with jelly bean should be a wise choice.
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda app-developers app
What do you guys think about the dude claiming 9hrs of screen on time ?
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.
I would suggest a Nexus instead. Google has decreased $50 off the original price, so that's $350 for an unlocked phone, with superior specs than the Sensation, for pretty much a similar price and priority OTA updates from Google. It'll be getting JB anything now.
ungraph said:
I would suggest a Nexus instead. Google has decreased $50 off the original price, so that's $350 for an unlocked phone, with superior specs than the Sensation, for pretty much a similar price and priority OTA updates from Google. It'll be getting JB anything now.
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+infinite
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.
ungraph said:
I would suggest a Nexus instead. Google has decreased $50 off the original price, so that's $350 for an unlocked phone, with superior specs than the Sensation, for pretty much a similar price and priority OTA updates from Google. It'll be getting JB anything now.
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"superior specs than the sensation" LOL
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4219&idPhone2=3875
the slight ram increase is not worth anything, the typical end user will find no difference with the CPU and GPU differences, and not many people even care to use the front facing camera or require HD quality..
other than that, its a downgrade to get the nexus.. its not like we wont get a JB version ROM lol devs are always hard at work
also... sense > any other UI including stock
DonDizzurp said:
"superior specs than the sensation" LOL
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4219&idPhone2=3875
the slight ram increase is not worth anything, the typical end user will find no difference with the CPU and GPU differences, and not many people even care to use the front facing camera or require HD quality..
other than that, its a downgrade to get the nexus.. its not like we wont get a JB version ROM lol devs are always hard at work
also... sense > any other UI including stock
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Hows that super gorgeous screen a downgrade ? And rom developement is crazy aswell + really light device which suits me better personally..
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.
DonDizzurp said:
"superior specs than the sensation" LOL
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4219&idPhone2=3875
the slight ram increase is not worth anything, the typical end user will find no difference with the CPU and GPU differences, and not many people even care to use the front facing camera or require HD quality..
other than that, its a downgrade to get the nexus.. its not like we wont get a JB version ROM lol devs are always hard at work
also... sense > any other UI including stock
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Sent From My Sexy Sensation.

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