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I am on Rogers and I recently got a Captivate I found the wiki site for the roms but I cant figure out which one would be the best one to use. So some insight into them would be great.
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If you want the fastest phone experience look at the i9000 roms with the setiron kernel, that kernel has every feature/tweak you'll ever need.
It depends a lot on what you mean by "Best." After reading a lot of the threads on different ROMs, I went with Cognition 2.4 because it had the feature set that matched my needs, and had the easiest installation method. It was also the only one I could find that used ClockworkMod exclusively and didn't require Odin. I don't have anything against Odin, but if I have an option to use one program or another exclusively, I'm going to go with that if for no other reason than less can go wrong.
There may be some that are faster, but even under stock, my Captivate was wicked fast. Cognition also seems to have a huge amount of support, more than the others I've seen.
I am not sure that you could classify one as being the "best". I have flashed a couple of the Cog builds and am now rocking the Tayutama rom. The Cog seems to be the most popular, but I am getting better function for what I want with the Tayutama. Don't mean I won't flash again, just gonna enjoy this one for a while.
I think any rom is going to vary from phone to phone. Some people have trouble flashing them, others experience gps issues, others have problems with bluetooth. I flash, use my phone normally, and if I run across a problem I look for a fix. I am sure there might be problems with my phone that I will never see (bluetooth for example) as there are probably many features I will never use.
Flash it. Use it. Dump it or keep it. Opinions are great, but it is going to be your experience with the rom that matters.
Basically anything but Cognition.
i9000 ROMs win any day.
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Basically anything but Cognition.
i9000 ROMs win any day.
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Amen to that! Go doc rom!
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For me, Cognition v2.2 b6. GPS works, Email and both Email and Browser works when switching between WiFi and 3G, and it's just clean, stable, and very reliable. The keyword is "for me". I do a lot of email, web browsing, SMS, MMS, photos, 720p videos, YouTube, [edit] plus MobileAP with friends who have no, or limited data plans [/edit] etc. Give it a shot if you're able to use it on Rogers.
Of the i9000 ROMs, only Raw Steel has fixed haptic on the home button, correct?
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I am not sure that you could classify one as being the "best". I have flashed a couple of the Cog builds and am now rocking the Tayutama rom. The Cog seems to be the most popular, but I am getting better function for what I want with the Tayutama. Don't mean I won't flash again, just gonna enjoy this one for a while.
I think any rom is going to vary from phone to phone. Some people have trouble flashing them, others experience gps issues, others have problems with bluetooth. I flash, use my phone normally, and if I run across a problem I look for a fix. I am sure there might be problems with my phone that I will never see (bluetooth for example) as there are probably many features I will never use.
Flash it. Use it. Dump it or keep it. Opinions are great, but it is going to be your experience with the rom that matters.
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Thanks everybody for posting opinions on this. I still havent made a decision yet and I was kinda hoping to hear from somebody on Rogers but nobody came forward...ah well.
By best what I was getting at was pretty much most efficient rom (ie no/little lag) and fast speeds and inproving on the battery life of my phone.
Edit: So looking at some of the posts I can consider using ROMS that arent Rogers specific as well on my phone???
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Edit: So looking at some of the posts I can consider using ROMS that arent Rogers specific as well on my phone???
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That part is definitely true. The ROM I'm using is not by any means carrier-specific. I can't speak for Rogers, but AT&T put a lot of crapware on my phone that I'm thankful to be without. I suppose if Rogers puts useful stuff on their phones, you'll need a Rogers-specific ROM, otherwise not. Only caveat I can think of is that it's good if you get a ROM that's Captivate-specific. There will be more internal consistency. For example, the i9000 has a front-facing camera that the Cappy doesn't.
Are froyo based roms fairly stable? I ask because I'm getting a Captivate for myself and a not-so-tech-literate family member, and I'd rather not have to deal with any additional problems. Should I flash one of the 2.1 based Cognition roms? Or Doc's 2.2 rom? Or something else entirely? Mainly looking for battery life improvements.
Cognitions 2.3b4 rom is absolutely incredible. EVERYTHING works! and its very fast. The fact that everything including the GPS works flawlessly is just amazing. I dunno if any other rom has been able to achieve that...
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EVERYTHING works! and its very fast.
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How's the BT voicedialer working?
shadvich said:
Are froyo based roms fairly stable? I ask because I'm getting a Captivate for myself and a not-so-tech-literate family member, and I'd rather not have to deal with any additional problems. Should I flash one of the 2.1 based Cognition roms? Or Doc's 2.2 rom? Or something else entirely? Mainly looking for battery life improvements.
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You may want to stick with the stock JH7 rom then. When I had it on my phone, that was the best battery life and best GPS performance I got. Now I'm running Cog 2.2B7 and it runs fine, although battery life is lacking and there is a little bit of lag from time to time, but all in all its solid. I love the fact that it has the mobile AP, which AT&T will be sure to strip out from their version of 2.2 when/if it ever comes out....
Couldn't disagree more. Cognition 2.3b3 has been a dream come true for my Captivate.
I have looked over many, Many boards today and am left with an impression that I should be able to go to Cognition 2.3b4 with ODIN, but not a One Touch ODIN.
I DLed Standalone ODIN and went to where the ROM file was downloadable. But when I go on in the process it is obvious I should be seeing a PIT.pit file and others to populate into the different areas of the ODIN interface... I can't find them in the download I have so far.
I have gone looking for these files or a zipped grouping of them, but no luck.
I think I am missing something simple in how this process should go.
Please help?
PS. I opted to NOT go with the ClockWorkMod route as it talks about only doing it if you have a previous version. The last time I did anything to the phone I did the leaked Froyo 2.2 ODIN One Click. That leaves me unsure if I meet the minimum requirements for the ClockWorkMod option. (Plus I don't have root.)
Thanx in advance for the help.
zeddock
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I have looked over many, Many boards today and am left with an impression that I should be able to go to Cognition 2.3b4 with ODIN, but not a One Touch ODIN.
I DLed Standalone ODIN and went to where the ROM file was downloadable. But when I go on in the process it is obvious I should be seeing a PIT.pit file and others to populate into the different areas of the ODIN interface... I can't find them in the download I have so far.
I have gone looking for these files or a zipped grouping of them, but no luck.
I think I am missing something simple in how this process should go.
Please help?
PS. I opted to NOT go with the ClockWorkMod route as it talks about only doing it if you have a previous version. The last time I did anything to the phone I did the leaked Froyo 2.2 ODIN One Click. That leaves me unsure if I meet the minimum requirements for the ClockWorkMod option. (Plus I don't have root.)
Thanx in advance for the help.
zeddock
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I got this from NorCal Einstein on another thread......
Cognition 2.3 Beta4 IS NOT ODIN FLASHABLE. Unless designgears releases a ODIN version to use with the stand-alone, you are not going to have success trying to use the CWM file with ODIN.
You don't have to flash via CWM while you are on Cognition, that's a mis-understanding. Personally, I flash my phone back to stock (JH6), and then use CWM to flash to Cognition. I don't know what you mean by minimum requirements for CWM option either...you have a Captivate right?...it works right?...you can run ClockWorkMod Recovery on your phone.
Bottom line: At this time, 2.3 Beta4 CANNOT be flashed using ODIN.
Just can't take it any more! I swore I'd wait until the official Froyo release before starting to flash custom ROMs but this thread has finally broken my resolve. Currently downloading one now and will flash tomorrow.
zeddock said:
I got this from NorCal Einstein on another thread......
Cognition 2.3 Beta4 IS NOT ODIN FLASHABLE. Unless designgears releases a ODIN version to use with the stand-alone, you are not going to have success trying to use the CWM file with ODIN.
You don't have to flash via CWM while you are on Cognition, that's a mis-understanding. Personally, I flash my phone back to stock (JH6), and then use CWM to flash to Cognition. I don't know what you mean by minimum requirements for CWM option either...you have a Captivate right?...it works right?...you can run ClockWorkMod Recovery on your phone.
Bottom line: At this time, 2.3 Beta4 CANNOT be flashed using ODIN.
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What? Who uses the CWM file with Odin? No wonder it didn't work for you.....
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I've been doing a metric ton of reading before I flash my first rom. I was all set to flash P10.1 when I read a few posts by DG that led me to believe that Cog3 might be right around the corner.
Now I've read a further few posts by DG that state that Cognition is dead, because (his reasoning) Cog was always a pure-Captivate rom, & the latest rom he's working on isn't purely Captivate-based. Another few of his posts & accompanying posts by other users in those threads have led me to believe that whatever he's got cooking will be based on the "official" Rogers FroYo release. Maybe it's mostly based from that stock rom but has other add-ons from the i9000 line (i.e. to make it not pure-Captivate)?
After all my reading, I think that flashing a Captivate-based rom would be the way to go, if only for the fact that it would include the ability to utilize the sound processor (afaik, there aren't i9000-based roms that can do this, correct?).
Anyway, I'm sitting here twiddling my thumbs since Monday waiting to see what DG's got in the oven & figured I'd start a thread to see what you all thought. This will be my first flash, & I don't plan to do a ton of switching around, so I want to get it "right" the first time.
tl;dr What's next from DG??
Just know that once you flash a rom, it wont be your last. DG roms are very good, along with Phoenix & Serendipity(my favorite).
I've flashed a handful of DG roms & I personally always find myself flashing back to one of Mikeys roms, he really knows his stuff.
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t-readyroc said:
I've been doing a metric ton of reading before I flash my first rom. I was all set to flash P10.1 when I read a few posts by DG that led me to believe that Cog3 might be right around the corner.
Now I've read a further few posts by DG that state that Cognition is dead, because (his reasoning) Cog was always a pure-Captivate rom, & the latest rom he's working on isn't purely Captivate-based. Another few of his posts & accompanying posts by other users in those threads have led me to believe that whatever he's got cooking will be based on the "official" Rogers FroYo release. Maybe it's mostly based from that stock rom but has other add-ons from the i9000 line (i.e. to make it not pure-Captivate)?
After all my reading, I think that flashing a Captivate-based rom would be the way to go, if only for the fact that it would include the ability to utilize the sound processor (afaik, there aren't i9000-based roms that can do this, correct?).
Anyway, I'm sitting here twiddling my thumbs since Monday waiting to see what DG's got in the oven & figured I'd start a thread to see what you all thought. This will be my first flash, & I don't plan to do a ton of switching around, so I want to get it "right" the first time.
tl;dr What's next from DG??
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This is what we all said before we popped the cherry!LOL
Well last I thought DesignGears was working on the Gingerbread ROM for Galaxy S Phone ported from the Nexus S. And Supercurio was working with the Cyanogen Team on the project as well so maybe they're all in kahootz now. They haven't posted an update on it in awhile so maybe it's coming along good.
But it would be nice to get ahold of that Rogers Froyo, at a good stable point. At least then we'd have everything built for our Captivates specifically.
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But it would be nice to get ahold of that Rogers Froyo, at a good stable point. At least then we'd have everything built for our Captivates specifically.
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Right, & I believe that this is what's happening now. The Rogers Froyo that was just officially released via Kies is what I think DG's working with.
Am I totally off-base w/the Captivate/i9000/sound processor bit?
& yeah, I know what you all mean about constantly switching around, but I really only flashed a handful of times w/my old HTC. Guess I'm lazy
I started off as a noob, and basically still am. My first flash was cog 2.8 I believe. Now its something different every other day. You can't stop yourself one you've started.
Its an addiction for sure. Best of luck flashing once and that's it. I hope that works better for you than it did for me.
I'm so addicted that I got my wife a captivate also so I can try things on hers to see the differences from what I'm running.
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I'm digging the work being done on the armani rom.
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As the poster above stated, many devs are working on an Armani JL1 rom right now. I am unsure what DG is doing/planning though. Just putting it out there.
Just like t-readyroc I've been holding off on my first flash. I don't think I can wait for official froyo any longer. I just keep thinking that once I flash a newer, more stable, rom will be released. So I don't know if I should wait or just take the plunge.
I'm still reading around on the most stable release. Any one have recommendations on a rom that is stable and easy to install.
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My choices before hearing that DG's latest release is imminent were Phoenix 3.0 & Perception 10.1. Now I'm also reading that Phoenix 3.5 is imminent. Bah!
Great, thanks t-readyroc for making my decision even harder. Lol
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t-readyroc said:
I've been doing a metric ton of reading before I flash my first rom. I was all set to flash P10.1 when I read a few posts by DG that led me to believe that Cog3 might be right around the corner.
Now I've read a further few posts by DG that state that Cognition is dead, because (his reasoning) Cog was always a pure-Captivate rom, & the latest rom he's working on isn't purely Captivate-based. Another few of his posts & accompanying posts by other users in those threads have led me to believe that whatever he's got cooking will be based on the "official" Rogers FroYo release. Maybe it's mostly based from that stock rom but has other add-ons from the i9000 line (i.e. to make it not pure-Captivate)?
After all my reading, I think that flashing a Captivate-based rom would be the way to go, if only for the fact that it would include the ability to utilize the sound processor (afaik, there aren't i9000-based roms that can do this, correct?).
Anyway, I'm sitting here twiddling my thumbs since Monday waiting to see what DG's got in the oven & figured I'd start a thread to see what you all thought. This will be my first flash, & I don't plan to do a ton of switching around, so I want to get it "right" the first time.
tl;dr What's next from DG??
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I flashed my first rom the other day (Serendipity 2.0) from stock, and the difference has been NIGHT & DAY! It blows my mind that Samsung can put out somthing THAT crappy compared to what their device is capable of.
Then yesterday I flashed a new modem and kernel. I'm hooked.
What's the benefits of a new modem and kernel?
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t-readyroc said:
This will be my first flash, & I don't plan to do a ton of switching around, so I want to get it "right" the first time.
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yeah, right...
come back in a couple of months and read your own post, you will lol
JohnnyDanger said:
Just like t-readyroc I've been holding off on my first flash. I don't think I can wait for official froyo any longer. I just keep thinking that once I flash a newer, more stable, rom will be released. So I don't know if I should wait or just take the plunge.
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if you keep waiting for what's around the corner, you will never get anywhere. stop torturing yourself and flash something. if you don't like a rom, you can always go back to stock and try something else
For what its worth I think it would be great to have Supercurio's audio tweaks integrated into the FireBird Kernel. Truly an enhancement.
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if you keep waiting for what's around the corner, you will never get anywhere. stop torturing yourself and flash something. if you don't like a rom, you can always go back to stock and try something else
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See, for me, it's going to be the constant app/music/data restores every time that'll prevent me from being a flash-whore...
Anyway, to get back OT, one of the reasons I was really interested in P10.1 was the fact that the launcher works in landscape mode. Are there others that do the same?
& again back OT: Captivate/i9000 roms & the use (or lack thereof) of the Captivate's hardware audio processor - are there any kernels that work with i9000 roms that make use of it? Or are all i9000 roms stuck doing the processing in software?
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See, for me, it's going to be the constant app/music/data restores every time that'll prevent me from being a flash-whore...
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it takes about 20 minutes from start to finish to flash a new rom for the complete process.
I said the same thing, "gonna find my fav rom and stick with it" That was a few years and phones ago and still flashing like crazy lol
But see, flashing whole new roms for the most part is almost a waste of time. Because usually why do you flash a new rom?
From the looks of a lot of ROM threads, going from release to release all the changes a lot of times are the installed system apps, and the themes to go with them. Yes, occasionaly there is a bigger release that warrants a new kernel or something of that nature.
To me, as an end user, ROM's could all use the same base rom (which they don't) and most people wouldn't know the difference. So find a ROM that doesn't force close on you, and flash the themes and apps you want into your ROM.
Personally I went from Flashing every ROM out there, and then just sticking to one that works, is deodexed so I can do whatever I want to it, and won't cause me to throw my phone in the trash.
Hello everyone!
I am from the Xperia X10 forum and I decided that I wanted to get the HTC Inspire and I love it!
I used the ace hack kit to root and s off and all that good stuff and I flashed to the latest AT&T Radio that was released last month as I am on the AT&T network.
My question is if this hasn't been answered a million times already:
What is the best ROM for battery life? I see that there are a lot of HTC Sense ROMS that are overclocked, I do not want mine overclocked, just all that bloatware crap AT&T put on the phone. I would prefer a nice sense rom that has amazing battery life and performance without the overclock.
What is the best custom Radio I should try out? I saw it varies from where you live but is the AT&T stock radio okay or crap? ( I am also concerned how difficult it is as I flashed the latest AT&T radio without using ENG S-OFF method with great success).
Just trying to make the transition from the Xperia to this phone is a little confusing and learning all this new material is a little tricky as the Inspire has been around for a few months now.
Thanks for your input!
Everything depends on many factors, every phone is different, every radio works better for certain areas, etc. You just have to try them and find out what works for you
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I would recommend TB's Fusion ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1099202 It's Android 2.3.3 with Sense 2.1 and some features ported from Sense 3.0. Battery life has been great for me so far and never had any troubles with it. Fast and stable. What else do you need?
I've been running inspired ace 1.0.1 for quite awhile now. The dev moved to the infuse, so it's not longer supported, but it's such a solid ROM, it really doesn't need much supporting.
A lot of people moved over to seo's ROM, mentioned above, as it's quite similar.
I'm not sure I understand your concern about the radio thing, it seems you have already had success in flashing one via the best and safest method....the non eng s-Off method. Any of the radios listed in the inspire radio thread, in the dev section, are just as easy and safe, so take your pick and try them out. Just be diligent in checking your MD5's.
The OTA radio is solid and many people have had success on a variety of roms using it.
Personally, I've had better luck with the 04.11_M2 radio for the gingerbread ROM I'm running.
Ymmv.
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I've been running inspired ace 1.0.1 for quite awhile now. The dev moved to the infuse, so it's not longer supported, but it's such a solid ROM, it really doesn't need much supporting.
A lot of people moved over to seo's ROM, mentioned above, as it's quite similar.
I'm not sure I understand your concern about the radio thing, it seems you have already had success in flashing one via the best and safest method....the non eng s-Off method. Any of the radios listed in the inspire radio thread, in the dev section, are just as easy and safe, so take your pick and try them out. Just be diligent in checking your MD5's.
The OTA radio is solid and many people have had success on a variety of roms using it.
Personally, I've had better luck with the 04.11_M2 radio for the gingerbread ROM I'm running.
Ymmv.
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Yeah, Inspired Ace is great.
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Wow quick response! Thanks guys!
I only show a little concern in terms of the radio flashing because I have been looking at different roms so far and they say you need to use the eng S-OFF method to flash a radio, which I don't feel comfortable doing, the safe method always implies when I root, etc, as the Xperia was unbrickable basically because of its locked bootloader.
and scott, for the radio you are using, are you in the united states?
another thing, is the ace 1.0.1 rom htc sense?
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Wow quick response! Thanks guys!
I only show a little concern in terms of the radio flashing because I have been looking at different roms so far and they say you need to use the eng S-OFF method to flash a radio, which I don't feel comfortable doing, the safe method always implies when I root, etc, as the Xperia was unbrickable basically because of its locked bootloader.
and scott, for the radio you are using, are you in the united states?
another thing, is the ace 1.0.1 rom htc sense?
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I'm running the factory OTA radio in the States and I've personal found it to be the best, in my opinion.
Also, yes, Inspired Ace is running Sense 2.1 - Click here for Inspired Ace
I personally don't like Sense so I stick with MIUI. The battery life has been fantastic on MIUI - even OC'd to 1.5ghz.
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Wow quick response! Thanks guys!
I only show a little concern in terms of the radio flashing because I have been looking at different roms so far and they say you need to use the eng S-OFF method to flash a radio, which I don't feel comfortable doing, the safe method always implies when I root, etc, as the Xperia was unbrickable basically because of its locked bootloader.
and scott, for the radio you are using, are you in the united states?
another thing, is the ace 1.0.1 rom htc sense?
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Are you looking at roms in the inspire dev section or the desire hd section? I ask because none of the inspire based roms that I've looked at endorse radio flashing by way of eng s-Off, as the non-eng s-off method is safer. Roms that originate from the actual desire hd section, may very well say that you need eng s-Off.
Keep in mind, some of the roms you see in the inspire thread are by developers who originate from the desire hd, I believe. They offer their ROM in our section because they work on our phones as well.
The desire hd radio thread, at least last I checked, definitely seems to indicate the need for eng s-Off.... All of the instructions in the op of that thread are eng s-Off based. The 'quickflash packages' in that thread I believe also specify the need for eng s-Off to use them. So it wouldn't surprise me if some desire hd-originated roms might say something about needing to have eng s-off.
(It seemed rather odd to me, that they still promote doing it this way even in light of the fact that you don't need eng s-Off to flash radios, but I may be missing something, I don't visit there very often.)
In any case, if you stick to the inspire only radio thread in our dev section, using the radio downloads available in that thread, you don't need to have eng s-Off to flash and test out those different radios. All known-working, and ready to flash without eng s-Off.
I don't have eng s-Off, and I've flashed 2 different radios, with no problems.
And yes, I'm in the US, Washington State, in fact.
All of the above observations about the desire hd stuff...are just that... Cursory observations... I may be off-the-mark a little, but just keep in mind there is info that's been intermingled between these two *almost* identical phones.
Really? Another "whats the best" thread???
Well...they say opinions are like ).(
I've tried almost every Rom/radio/kernel combination out there. And I have to say that CM7 nightlies is the best looking. The themes for them are sick....in a good way. But...I've had nothing but GPS problems with that ROM. If they ever get THAT fixed...and a few other bugs...I'll definitely be going back! Right now I'm on CoreDroid...which is based on sense 3.0. It's the second best I've tried thus far. I like the sense 3.0 live weather wallpapers...and CoreDroid is the only rom that seems to have a stable version of that.
So my vote is for CoreDroid until CM7 gets all of the GPS bugs worked out.
How does CoreDroid compare to LeeDroid? I read through all 82 pages of the LeeDroid thread and except for a few issues it seemed really good.
Is any Rom compatible with the ATT stock radio
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How does CoreDroid compare to LeeDroid? I read through all 82 pages of the LeeDroid thread and except for a few issues it seemed really good.
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They are both good ROMs, give them both a try for a few days each.
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Is any Rom compatible with the ATT stock radio
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Yes, any Inspire / DHD ROM will work with the stock radio.
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How does CoreDroid compare to LeeDroid? I read through all 82 pages of the LeeDroid thread and except for a few issues it seemed really good.
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I used to use leedroid 3.0.3 I loved it great battery life just all around good but when I started updating to the new versions it got slow and sluggish so I tried coredroid 6.8 I have to say I like it better. It has more customization that leedroid does. It is very snappy. Also has great battery life. Your best bet is to try them both. They both have great devs if there's a problem they will address it. Best of luck!
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Are both of those based off 2.3? With sense 3.0?
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Yes but on leedroid sense 3.0 is an add on. Coredroid is built into the Rom.
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Hey I'm from the x10 too! I upgraded like 2weeks aago and I never look back! I'm currently using the gingerbeast rom with the ota att radio. Battery life isn't bad though not the best.
Also rooting the inspire is a bit more pain than the x10 huh? At least the bootloader is unlocked rather than a load of test kernals like in the case of the x10.
Hey Mister J I remember seeing you around back on the X10 forums haha! I feel you man I'm loving all the crazy options we have on here.
J, what rom are you using? I'm considering using the LeeDroid as I am not a big fan of the 3.0 Sense for some reason.
Battery life is a big deal along with full sense 2.1 like at&t rom had.
I'm turning into a ROM whore.
I'd like to say that some of the radio.img and RIL's have really made a difference but I've not been impressed with the radio updates. I'm in Phoenix and I can't say I've been surprised with the updates. The ROM's yeah I've liked some of them and others I've hated.
Learning about the different radio firmware and RIL has really helped me understand how everything was designed and what the different levels mean.
For me its battery and GPS. GPS fix north America really made the phone worth having.
So yeah, I wish I could decide to stick with one ROM. I'm just a rom whore.
MR2 will be coming via OTA in the next couple of days MR2 has been through four different revisions and will be based on the 1.70.xx code. There are a number of fixes but the most important should be fixing the reboots and improving the 4G/3G transitions.
I know everyone is waiting for GB which is MR3, but it still needs some time. The good news is that it is being worked on it is already on its fifth SW revision.
Awesome. I can wait for GB no problem, I just want a fix for the reboots. I'm sick of my phone rebooting 5+ times a day, happy an update is coming soon.
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OR... you could just scoot on over to the dev forum and pick yourself up a spiffy new rom built on MR2 which is quite solid and fast and will use the same or very similar radios to what will be in the OTA. I tried a couple of them. They are spartan on fancy stuff, but they are reliable if nothing else. Possibly the most functional and reliable roms over there.
Why does someone always have to pop intro threads like this and state the obvious. I'm sure everyone with a Thunderbolt that frequents these forums is aware that rooting and installing a custom rom is an option. Some people have their reasons for wanting to stay stock.
I for one am still stock because this is the first phone I've had in quite a while that the stock rom is quite good. I spent a long time on WinMo, so I am used to custom roms just the make the device functional. Right now custom roms on the TB are mostly just different, not necessarily a huge need to me (GB roms are debatable on this point).
Once the custom roms offer something I want that I can't get from stock (and mature a bit more), I'm sure I'll root and rom. For now I'm enjoying stock stability and a working camera. Just because someone can do something doesn't make it something they need to do.
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animez said:
Why does someone always have to pop intro threads like this and state the obvious. I'm sure everyone with a Thunderbolt that frequents these forums is aware that rooting and installing a custom rom is an option. Some people have their reasons for wanting to stay stock.
I for one am still stock because this is the first phone I've had in quite a while that the stock rom is quite good. I spent a long time on WinMo, so I am used to custom roms just the make the device functional. Right now custom roms on the TB are mostly just different, not necessarily a huge need to me (GB roms are debatable on this point).
Once the custom roms offer something I want that I can't get from stock (and mature a bit more), I'm sure I'll root and rom. For now I'm enjoying stock stability and a working camera. Just because someone can do something doesn't make it something they need to do.
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My thoughts exactly. Sure I would like to avoid the reboots (given I have had 2 in a 3 week period), and maybe a faster better radio, but the software and sense is so solid.
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MR2 will be coming via OTA in the next couple of days MR2 has been through four different revisions and will be based on the 1.70.xx code. There are a number of fixes but the most important should be fixing the reboots and improving the 4G/3G transitions.
I know everyone is waiting for GB which is MR3, but it still needs some time. The good news is that it is being worked on it is already on its fifth SW revision.
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Where did you get this info?
dcjamies said:
Where did you get this info?
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Flawed info at that. But anyway
The OP history suggests that assumptions and rumors have been listened to and taken as gospel.
animez said:
Why does someone always have to pop intro threads like this and state the obvious. I'm sure everyone with a Thunderbolt that frequents these forums is aware that rooting and installing a custom rom is an option. Some people have their reasons for wanting to stay stock.
I for one am still stock because this is the first phone I've had in quite a while that the stock rom is quite good. I spent a long time on WinMo, so I am used to custom roms just the make the device functional. Right now custom roms on the TB are mostly just different, not necessarily a huge need to me (GB roms are debatable on this point).
Once the custom roms offer something I want that I can't get from stock (and mature a bit more), I'm sure I'll root and rom. For now I'm enjoying stock stability and a working camera. Just because someone can do something doesn't make it something they need to do.
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Bingo.. agreed 100%
Coming from HTC devices like the 8525, ATT Tilt, and Touch Pro 2, Ive just about had my share of ROMs for a lifetime. I just want something that works. After paying all this money, Im gonna let Verizon and HTC do what they're supposed to do.
animez said:
Why does someone always have to pop intro threads like this and state the obvious. I'm sure everyone with a Thunderbolt that frequents these forums is aware that rooting and installing a custom rom is an option. Some people have their reasons for wanting to stay stock.
I for one am still stock because this is the first phone I've had in quite a while that the stock rom is quite good. I spent a long time on WinMo, so I am used to custom roms just the make the device functional. Right now custom roms on the TB are mostly just different, not necessarily a huge need to me (GB roms are debatable on this point).
Once the custom roms offer something I want that I can't get from stock (and mature a bit more), I'm sure I'll root and rom. For now I'm enjoying stock stability and a working camera. Just because someone can do something doesn't make it something they need to do.
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I agree with wanting an official update, but the stock rom is far from good. Yes the speed is good but the battery life is horrible. With custom roms I have been able to triple my battery life and limit the random reboots I was getting stock, along with the already good speed being improved. Das BAMF Stripped 1.8
animez said:
Why does someone always have to pop intro threads like this and state the obvious. I'm sure everyone with a Thunderbolt that frequents these forums is aware that rooting and installing a custom rom is an option. Some people have their reasons for wanting to stay stock.
I for one am still stock because this is the first phone I've had in quite a while that the stock rom is quite good. I spent a long time on WinMo, so I am used to custom roms just the make the device functional. Right now custom roms on the TB are mostly just different, not necessarily a huge need to me (GB roms are debatable on this point).
Once the custom roms offer something I want that I can't get from stock (and mature a bit more), I'm sure I'll root and rom. For now I'm enjoying stock stability and a working camera. Just because someone can do something doesn't make it something they need to do.
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agreed. So far only 1 reboot in 2 weeks (apparently that is good) and I get occasional instances where home button doesn't want to work.
I just wish the damn thing rebooted faster. It takes almost 2 minutes to boot, then another couple of minutes before sense is responsive.
Coming from the hd7 and 25 second boot times, this is killer...
I also made/used custom roms on my q9c, tp2 and hd2, but want to give stock a chance. Maybe I will root if I decide I need to tether, but so far, things are looking good stock.
Pushed to mid July
Lol enjoy stock
crazyhtown said:
Pushed to mid July
Lol enjoy stock
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alot of us are. thanks for your concern.
adrynalyne said:
Flawed info at that. But anyway
The OP history suggests that assumptions and rumors have been listened to and taken as gospel.
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But I read it on the internet, so that has to make it true.
mr2.5 is treating me well and ive had zero reboots. i can wait a bit for the new radio.
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Pushed to mid July
Lol enjoy stock
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#1 how do you know it's been pushed back?
#2 i think most on here and happily enjoying gingerbread but thanks for the concern.
Some documents state we will be getting a removal of free mobile hotspot via ota July 6th . Maybe it will be attached to the update .
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Both the MR2 and the MR2.5 have been a good temporary fix for me, until a new radio is released.
Crazyhtown = Lol enjoy stock[/QUOTE said:
Not really called for man. Stock, Ropoted Stock Or GB, Does it really matter, lets just help each other instead of some acting like they are better because you are on something besides stock.
Stock runs very well and so do the roms the devs are busting their butts to put out, still doesn't mean we have to knock each other...
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"mr2" we leaked on the forums is NOT mr2. 1.66/1.67/1.68/1.69 will not be MR2.
I can confirm OP's comments on the current "mr2" candidate version number, and give a approximate release of july 6th. With verizon things are given to change, the release date can change, so can the version being released.
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Not really called for man. Stock, Ropoted Stock Or GB, Does it really matter, lets just help each other instead of some acting like they are better because you are on something besides stock.
Stock runs very well and so do the roms the devs are busting their butts to put out, still doesn't mean we have to knock each other...
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His comment was pretty blunt/unhelpful and rude, but there does tend to be some complaining from those that want to have their cake (those that don't want to root) and eat it too (still want updates/workarounds as quick as those that have root).
Those that seem to be frustrated by such things, perhaps android is not the phone for them or at least android phones that are not officially blessed by google (nexus phones).
I wanted to thank the developers of MR3 in this thread. Liquid, Jester, etc.
I'm a long time lurker of this forum since I got my Thunderbolt. I'm VERY VERY appreciative of the developers for creating a very functional ICS rom for the Thunderbolt. Shame on HTC and Verizon for sandbagging so long with what should be a very simple upgrade for them. I was running Thundershed for awhile but grew tired of the Gingerbread look and feel of Android. My friends all mostly have newer phones with ICS, and I couldn't believe that it was supposed to be out in August and it's now mid-October and it's still not out.
To my surprise, I log on to here and see that an ICS ROM had been released.
My only issues with this ROM are random restarts and the white screen error in Facebook/Gmail/etc. I don't really use the video camera much in general; could you use an aftermarket app, or is it broken period?
Otherwise, I absolutely LOVE this and will never go back to Verizon's bloated software. Even when an OTA is released with ICS I won't go back. My phone is running much faster and much better than with Sense and Gingerbread. With data off I had a 10% decrease in battery in 7 hours; with data on and normal use I'll get maybe 5 hours out of a charge on this ROM. About normal for this phone and it's absolutely terrible battery life with the stock battery.
I have it overclocked to 1.5ghz running interactiveX as my governor. It runs beautifully, other than those two minor issues I pointed out above. I haven't experienced any data drops or anything out of the sort like that.
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I wanted to thank the developers of MR3 in this thread. Liquid, Jester, etc.
I'm a long time lurker of this forum since I got my Thunderbolt. I'm VERY VERY appreciative of the developers for creating a very functional ICS rom for the Thunderbolt. Shame on HTC and Verizon for sandbagging so long with what should be a very simple upgrade for them. I was running Thundershed for awhile but grew tired of the Gingerbread look and feel of Android. My friends all mostly have newer phones with ICS, and I couldn't believe that it was supposed to be out in August and it's now mid-October and it's still not out.
To my surprise, I log on to here and see that an ICS ROM had been released.
My only issues with this ROM are random restarts and the white screen error in Facebook/Gmail/etc. I don't really use the video camera much in general; could you use an aftermarket app, or is it broken period?
Otherwise, I absolutely LOVE this and will never go back to Verizon's bloated software. Even when an OTA is released with ICS I won't go back. My phone is running much faster and much better than with Sense and Gingerbread. With data off I had a 10% decrease in battery in 7 hours; with data on and normal use I'll get maybe 5 hours out of a charge on this ROM. About normal for this phone and it's absolutely terrible battery life with the stock battery.
I have it overclocked to 1.5ghz running interactiveX as my governor. It runs beautifully, other than those two minor issues I pointed out above. I haven't experienced any data drops or anything out of the sort like that.
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I second this thread.
A major thanks goes out to all of you who develop, in any way, for the Thunderbolt community. This even includes testers.
To answer your questions...
The video and front camera are broken even with an aftermarket app and will remain broken, most likely, until Verizon releases the OTA. From the OTA, our awesome developers will then be able to fix camera issues and many other issues that will make their ROM's 100% stable.
Also, if you get random reboots, you may want to flash to a different radio.
If you are currently running the OTA radios from the 2.11.605.19 software and still get these reboots, try flashing the combo radio and hopefully the reboots will vanish or, at least, happen less often.
If you go to your settings, about phone, software information, more, and look at the baseband version...
If the numbers you see are:
1.49.00.0406w_1, 0.01.79.0331w_1
Then you are on the OTA 2.11.605.19 radios, which is my recommendation for the radios to use with this ROM. If these are the radio numbers you see, try the combo radio. If the numbers you see under your phones baseband version is not:
1.49.00.0406w_1, 0.01.79.0331w_1
Then it may be:
1.48.00.0930w_3, 0.01.78.0916w_3
If it is:
1.48.00.0930w_3, 0.01.78.0916w_3
Try flashing the 2.11.605.19 OTA radios found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1605557
If you have the 2.11.605.19 radios, though, try flashing the combo radio found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1864157
If you aren't sure how to flash a radio, here's a video tutorial for you to follow:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu-KLjHGGhc&sns=em
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Definitely want to ditto this thread. Thanks for continuing to support the Thunderbolt. I was on the verge of retiring the Thunderbolt. ICS has brought new the Tbolt new life though!
thanks for the links. I'm going to try upgrading tonight and see if that helps. I notice you flash the radio in hboot. If I do a nandroid backup, does it also backup the radio (so I can restore it)? Or if I **** up, will it be permanently bricked?
Ditto to all that has been said. Thank You to all who made this happen, including HTC and Verizon. Their inaction drove me to decide to root and find alternatives. I've been incredibly pleased with MR3.
Thanks all!
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thanks for the links. I'm going to try upgrading tonight and see if that helps. I notice you flash the radio in hboot. If I do a nandroid backup, does it also backup the radio (so I can restore it)? Or if I **** up, will it be permanently bricked?
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If you backup that ROM after flashing the radio, it will back up the ROM. Hboot is a whole different thing than the recovery. That radio is downloaded to the phone and will automatically run on any ROM after its downloaded, even if you start from scratch. But flashing any of those two radios will not brick you on any ROM. Worst case being you won't have signal or data until you flash different radios again.
Say if you upgraded to the newer radios, and then you flash a ROM based on an older software version, you won't brick. In fact, you may not ever experience any issues. Maybe just signal changes or random signal drops.
But no, it won't brick you. It's almost impossible to brick a Thunderbolt.
I recommend after flashing the new radios, immediately go and either change the name from PG05IMG to something custom, move into a different folder that's off of the root of the SD card, or just delete it once flashed.
This is for in a such case where you need to get back into recovery from hboot, it won't prompt you to install the radio again. Because if you had to get into recovery from hboot, it wouldn't allow you to since it runs a check for the PG05IMG files first... and with that being said... I was always told to never flash the same radio twice without changing to a new one first.
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i dont' see why these ROMs get so much acclaim... when i tried LiquidSmooth it wouldn't stay connected to the Internet. tried to toggle wifi and 3G/4G. nothing works and i have to reboot the phone every time i want to use the Internet.
Liquid MR3: the setup crashed and now the ROM won't even come all the way up...
unless my phone's broken or something (going to Verizon tomorrow to reflash and check it), i say they're both absolute garbage. i've had much better luck with ROMs on other phones.
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i dont' see why these ROMs get so much acclaim... when i tried LiquidSmooth it wouldn't stay connected to the Internet. tried to toggle wifi and 3G/4G. nothing works and i have to reboot the phone every time i want to use the Internet.
Liquid MR3: the setup crashed and now the ROM won't even come all the way up...
unless my phone's broken or something (going to Verizon tomorrow to reflash and check it), i say they're both absolute garbage. i've had much better luck with ROMs on other phones.
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Did you try a different radio and redownload? The first shot isnt always the right one....
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Did you try a different radio and redownload? The first shot isnt always the right one....
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whelp... as you can see from my post number, i'm not exactly the most well-versed member around. idk what that means. any reading you can point me to or explanation?
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whelp... as you can see from my post number, i'm not exactly the most well-versed member around. idk what that means. any reading you can point me to or explanation?
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Back up 9 posts and you'll see a link to a video tutorial on how to flash a different radio. You'll even see 2 links to 2 different radios to flash and try.
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Back up 9 posts and you'll see a link to a video tutorial on how to flash a different radio. You'll even see 2 links to 2 different radios to flash and try.
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well i reflashed Liquid this morning and it didn't crash this time, connected fine via wifi and setup completed properly.
all of my radio issues were on the old version (not sure if there's a difference in radios or whatnot), but if it acts up again i will try your recommendations. thanks a lot.
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moonlightcheese said:
well i reflashed Liquid this morning and it didn't crash this time, connected fine via wifi and setup completed properly.
all of my radio issues were on the old version (not sure if there's a difference in radios or whatnot), but if it acts up again i will try your recommendations. thanks a lot.
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ah i see what happened now.
the first time i flashed it, i cleared /data after the flash before i brought the OS up, but you've included the launcher as a user app and not a system app. was this intentional? a user could easily screw up by uninstalling the launcher and have no way to interact with the OS. shouldn't there be a default launcher embedded in the system programs?
i'm an Android dev, but my understanding of system development is limited, but if i'm not mistaken, any Android ROM should come with a default launcher that is not uninstallable and has no icon as a backup launcher just in case.
He did install it that way so if the user wants to install their own launcher and remove the default. Its simple to make the new one a system app. All that has to be done is move the apk to /system and it is uninstallable.
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