Hello community,
I have an Atrix, and it is quite old now... I want a larger screen
Planning to get a Sensation to replace it, and i have some questions to ask about it:
1. How is the battery life?
Would it get very hot while using?
2. How is the build quality? ie. any chance to be easily broken?
I havd my Atrix repaired several times because of digitizer.
3. Are the current ICS roms stable enough?
And, does unlocking bootloader/flashing a custom rom easy?
How about gaming?
4. Sensation's spec better than Atrix or not?
I mean, for normal web or apps using, 768MB ram is enough?
Thanks for any advices.
tennyleaz said:
Hello community,
I have an Atrix, and it is quite old now... I want a larger screen
Planning to get a Sensation to replace it, and i have some questions to ask about it:
1. How is the battery life?
Would it get very hot while using?
2. How is the build quality? ie. any chance to be easily broken?
I havd my Atrix repaired several times because of digitizer.
3. Are the current ICS roms stable enough?
And, does unlocking bootloader/flashing a custom rom easy?
How about gaming?
4. Sensation's spec better than Atrix or not?
I mean, for normal web or apps using, 768MB ram is enough?
Thanks for any advices.
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Ok so not biased answer it worth it but if you can expand your budget little bit more might aswell get a galaxy nexus however for your question :
#1 : battery life is pure crap on stock battery unless you get an anker otherwise you can get more then 1-2 hours screen on time..
It depends how you use your phone if you game alot alot ot heats up easily but i do normal use sometimes it gets hot but overall it isn't that bad..
#2 : build quality is quite good feels good in the hand it isnt easily breakable but keep in mind if you drop your sensation there is always a chance of cracking the screen...
#3 : yes ics roms are really stable most of the have 90% of the things working there is some small issues such as on aosp roms or cm9 wiping sd card will hard brick your phone otherwise things like camera and so on works...
i cant really answer to this one as my phone was already s-off unlocked bootloader but from the forums it seems quite hard...
Gaming is good if you'd ask me but it still lags a little bit on gta 3
#4 : yes specs are better and ram is plenty enough on sense rom i always have 250mb free and on aosp roms about 340mb free..
But as i said having a anker is a must if your an moderate user !
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.
tennyleaz said:
Hello community,
I have an Atrix, and it is quite old now... I want a larger screen
Planning to get a Sensation to replace it, and i have some questions to ask about it:
1. How is the battery life?
Would it get very hot while using?
2. How is the build quality? ie. any chance to be easily broken?
I havd my Atrix repaired several times because of digitizer.
3. Are the current ICS roms stable enough?
And, does unlocking bootloader/flashing a custom rom easy?
How about gaming?
4. Sensation's spec better than Atrix or not?
I mean, for normal web or apps using, 768MB ram is enough?
Thanks for any advices.
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1. decent/average.. and yea it gets hot.. depends on your kernel setup too
2. there are several hardware defects that affect random people. digitizer, deathgrip, low speaker quality, etc.. mines been fine so i cant really add much to this. pretty solid build though, sort of typical of HTC
3. 90-99.9% stable, still a few things here and there.. not necessarily to do with our phone but with ICS in general. VERY easy to unlock and root and get s-off.. but ive been doing this to htc phones for years so i guess experience counts. gaming is as it should be. some games might not work with certain sense 4.0 or other ICS roms for some. everything works for me though
4. yes. especially if you decide to do the CM/MIUI/AOSP/AOKP route (aka sense-less, lol) youll have more than enough free memory
shahkam said:
#3 : yes ics roms are really stable most of the have 90% of the things working there is some small issues such as on aosp roms or cm9 wiping sd card will hard brick your phone otherwise things like camera and so on works...
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The bug about it reformatting the NAND and not the SD card has been fixed and is no longer present in the current ASOP or AOKP builds, but to be safe I recommend only using AOSP or AOKP builds from April to current. But the rest of the info you gave is pretty spot on,
Also the current method of S-off for Hboot versions 1.21.0000 and up is Juopunutbear S-off is a little tricky because you have to use the wire trick. But if you follow the guides that are in this forum you should not have to much trouble.
T-Macgnolia said:
The bug about it reformatting the NAND and not the SD card has been fixed and is no longer present in the current ASOP or AOKP builds, but to be safe I recommend only using AOSP or AOKP builds from April to current. But the rest of the info you gave is pretty spot on,
Also the current method of S-off for Hboot versions 1.21.0000 and up is Juopunutbear S-off is a little tricky because you have to use the wire trick. But if you follow the guides that are in this forum you should not have to much trouble.
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Yeah forgot that vorbeth fixed it in his cm9 build sorry so now what we are close to like a 95% working ice cream sandwich rom?
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.
Ok, thanks for informations.
A Sensation in Taiwan now is priced about 280~300USD, just fit my budget.
I'm reading the s-off guide... somewhat complicated than motorola devices, but I think I can make it.
How about the battery life on ICS roms vs. GB roms?
I have a Htc Senseation and ive had heaps of phones, battery life for me..is okish with screen brightness lowered but i would like to get a anker battery,
The ICS Roms are really Good for me i love the Team PKMN with the little tweaks makes it very more..my own
Ive only had about 3 issues, 1 Boot looping..and that was due to my own fault.
2 a Camera issue with a rom but that was due to my own error
3 a couple of random shutdowns from something but again..my own fault.
Basically i have Setcpu , System Tuner , And cputuner running
im 18 and i was able to root it so if you have any experience rooting..you should had NO issues, just post and ask around most people are very helpful to guide you with a how to So Far my fav phone.
tennyleaz said:
Ok, thanks for informations.
A Sensation in Taiwan now is priced about 280~300USD, just fit my budget.
I'm reading the s-off guide... somewhat complicated than motorola devices, but I think I can make it.
How about the battery life on ICS roms vs. GB roms?
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On stock GB & battery I was getting 12hrs life with only 1 or 2hr screen time, with ICS (VI ROM) and Anker battery I get between 1 and 2 days life and up to 9hrs screen time.
Everyone's usage is different but there's nothing wrong with the hardware.
The only limitation is the custom ROM scene, most developers bypassed or moved on from the Sensation. Custom ROMs are miles better than stock, but development is pretty static now.
Based on my personal experience, I will not buy a HTC phone again. This is a shame considering I have the Desire as well.
I have been plagued by the following problems:
death grip ( i know most phones experience this at some point, but this is no excuse )
missed calls - even with a full signal strength, my phone would not even ring
reboots at random intervals
HTC do make good phones, but apparently the One X on the Vodafone UK network is also plagued by signal loss.
I love my sensation!
Yes its worth getting! battery life can be worked with I got a long lasting battery it makes a huge difference! Rooting can be difficult depending on your h boot version but I promise its well worth it and very do able. Just follow the guide to s off and rooting. You will do fine. Ice Never had problems with my device and I flash a lot. Mine has proven sturdy and solid. I have no complaints. I really enjoy everything about my device! Ics custom roms have proven to be more stable than stock roms! ice never got a reboot on a custom ROM and ice tried several, even sense 4. I can honestly say I'm still enjoying my device! Thanks to the developers here at xda. If your rooted you make your device rudely your own. if you don't like something just change it. the customization is wonderful! You can create a device thats truely yours with the help of rooting, roms, kernels, and mods! Its always fresh never boreing! I think you will be completely happy. I know I am! Your not stuck with something you don't like because you change and modify it to what you want. I don't understand how anyone can complain about that! You have the ability to change it on the deepest levels. My advice is to try many roms until you find what suits you! Then you can change kernels and mods and really customize your device. Warning its highly addictive lol. bottom line IM still happy after a year. I think you will be also. I must say rooting is a must! Also s off. Then you will be on your way to making your device custom AND TRUELY your own creation! Enjoy every step of the way! I think you will love it! I know I do. Best of luck and have fun!
Sent from my Sensation using xda premium
boomboomer said:
On stock GB & battery I was getting 12hrs life with only 1 or 2hr screen time, with ICS (VI ROM) and Anker battery I get between 1 and 2 days life and up to 9hrs screen time.
Everyone's usage is different but there's nothing wrong with the hardware.
The only limitation is the custom ROM scene, most developers bypassed or moved on from the Sensation. Custom ROMs are miles better than stock, but development is pretty static now.
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Your not getting 9h screen on time no matter what post some pics! I the sgs3 which has 2100mah cannot achieve that...
By the way add like 40$ more and you can get the galaxy nexus off the market place here on xda really at that price it doesn't worth it...
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.
tennyleaz said:
And, does unlocking bootloader/flashing a custom rom easy?
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Just to chip in here, I'm a complete noob at this stuff but a few days ago I just followed this guide and went from stock ICS to rooted with a custom ROM in only a few hours, and much of that was spent waiting for files to download. I highly recommend you follow it, and if you do, modify step 4b a little bit. Everything Superwipe does can be done by a 4EXT wipe, so replace step 4b with:
Download the custom ROM you want, you don't need Superwipe
Place the zip on your sd card
Reboot into recovery
Perform a full wipe ("wipe | format" --> "format all partitions (except sd card)")
Enable smartflash ("tools" --> "enable 4EXT SmartFlash")
Flash the new ROM ("install from sd card" --> "choose zip from sd card" --> select zip)
And once you're rooted you can repeat this process as many times as you want each time you want to try out a new ROM
HTC sensation is worth every penny. I am inloved with this phone. I have been using one since January. I rooted it and installed a custom ROM on it. The phone fits perfectly with my needs. It is fast enough, nice design, good material quality so, yeah, I reccomend it.
Now, is it possible for me to downgrade 4est recovery from v2.... to v.1 and stuff RC?
The damn speaker is so awesome, I've made a conscious decision not to buy a HTC phone again. Galaxy s 3 or the eagerly awaited Google nexus with jelly bean should be a wise choice.
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda app-developers app
What do you guys think about the dude claiming 9hrs of screen on time ?
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.
I would suggest a Nexus instead. Google has decreased $50 off the original price, so that's $350 for an unlocked phone, with superior specs than the Sensation, for pretty much a similar price and priority OTA updates from Google. It'll be getting JB anything now.
ungraph said:
I would suggest a Nexus instead. Google has decreased $50 off the original price, so that's $350 for an unlocked phone, with superior specs than the Sensation, for pretty much a similar price and priority OTA updates from Google. It'll be getting JB anything now.
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+infinite
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.
ungraph said:
I would suggest a Nexus instead. Google has decreased $50 off the original price, so that's $350 for an unlocked phone, with superior specs than the Sensation, for pretty much a similar price and priority OTA updates from Google. It'll be getting JB anything now.
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"superior specs than the sensation" LOL
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4219&idPhone2=3875
the slight ram increase is not worth anything, the typical end user will find no difference with the CPU and GPU differences, and not many people even care to use the front facing camera or require HD quality..
other than that, its a downgrade to get the nexus.. its not like we wont get a JB version ROM lol devs are always hard at work
also... sense > any other UI including stock
DonDizzurp said:
"superior specs than the sensation" LOL
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4219&idPhone2=3875
the slight ram increase is not worth anything, the typical end user will find no difference with the CPU and GPU differences, and not many people even care to use the front facing camera or require HD quality..
other than that, its a downgrade to get the nexus.. its not like we wont get a JB version ROM lol devs are always hard at work
also... sense > any other UI including stock
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Hows that super gorgeous screen a downgrade ? And rom developement is crazy aswell + really light device which suits me better personally..
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.
DonDizzurp said:
"superior specs than the sensation" LOL
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4219&idPhone2=3875
the slight ram increase is not worth anything, the typical end user will find no difference with the CPU and GPU differences, and not many people even care to use the front facing camera or require HD quality..
other than that, its a downgrade to get the nexus.. its not like we wont get a JB version ROM lol devs are always hard at work
also... sense > any other UI including stock
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See what I did there... You know, with the title.
Any who, this is my second android phone and I'm so happy with my inspire, I actually am not that inspired to flash any roms. I mean this in no disrespect to the developers here, as they are doing awesome work, I'm just very content. Sure I'm curious to flash, but I don't feel the need to at all. Htc has done such a great job with sense and the phone is just so smooth! It's pretty damn fast out of the box. I love the email app and Internet. The browser is fast and the entire sense GUI is quite intuitive. I guess with my captivate, I was never quite happy so I needed to flash often at a glimmer of hope of a decent device.
Anyone else feel the same?
I will eventually flash. I will...but I'm in no rush, at all.
exactly I never was happy with captivate tried flashing different things but it really doesnt change much except for theme removing bloat and some lag fixes but all in all it was still very laggy no matter what. inspire looks great out of the box and i dont feel the need to change roms all the i probaly will just to check em out and check out the speed increases
jc2470 said:
exactly I never was happy with captivate tried flashing different things but it really doesnt change much except for theme removing bloat and some lag fixes but all in all it was still very laggy no matter what. inspire looks great out of the box and i dont feel the need to change roms all the i probaly will just to check em out and check out the speed increases
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I don't side load apps. I got tethering to work with apn settings. Don't really see a need for OCing. It's cool, but don't see the need. There doesn't seem to really be much on android that pushes the CPU. One of my arguments for not getting the dual core atrix. If the screen was big like a tablet, maybe. There is just a lack of resource intense apps on android.... At least to rationalize the loss in battery life. The screen on the inspire slides from screen to screen as fast as my finger glides. The browser scrolls fast as well. I do appreciate some of the optimizations that devs have put into their roms. The roms look great...I just can't believe I'm happy with stock. I was really gearing up for a flash fest.
Well it really depends on what you want. If you flash a ROM say like Android Revolution. Yes it will remove bloat ware, and enable tethering. But you can also overclock the cpu, enable upload (which effects your download). It is more about having control over your phone then changing how it looks or feels unless you go with CM7 or the like. I get about 10 more hours of battery usage. I can unplug my phone at 7 in the morning use it heavily throughout the day and go to bed at 11 or 12 and still have about 40% left on the battery. To give you an idea how heavy my usage is, I went through 1gb of data in three days.
Ditto.... I have no reason to flash....everything works the way I want it to, and excellently at that.....
Via the XDA app for the HTC Inspire
Ya I don't have a desire to flash a custom rom either.
I felt I had to when using the Captivate since the stock rom was so bad. But I feel the Inspire's ROM is great just the way it is.
I used to jailbreak my iPhones for years, but finally got bored with doing it.
mudknot2005 said:
Well it really depends on what you want. If you flash a ROM say like Android Revolution. Yes it will remove bloat ware, and enable tethering. But you can also overclock the cpu, enable upload (which effects your download). It is more about having control over your phone then changing how it looks or feels unless you go with CM7 or the like. I get about 10 more hours of battery usage. I can unplug my phone at 7 in the morning use it heavily throughout the day and go to bed at 11 or 12 and still have about 40% left on the battery. To give you an idea how heavy my usage is, I went through 1gb of data in three days.
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Yeah, upload speed, memory optimizations, and prolonged battery life would be my only reasons for flashing. I don't want to lose anything from the current sense ui. I still don't quite understand the goldcard concept.
Anyway, this is a rare phone that is good right out of the box.
Corriewf said:
Yeah, upload speed, memory optimizations, and prolonged battery life would be my only reasons for flashing. I don't want to lose anything from the current sense ui. I still don't quite understand the goldcard concept.
Anyway, this is a rare phone that is good right out of the box.
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I felt the same way all of you did about how great the phone is out of the box. But I needed to have it work as a hot spot and the upload is so slow out of the box because of AT&T. After flashing (now using CoreDroid) I have HUSPA back and my phone is so much faster. What I like about this ROM is it is very close to stock but no bloatware and he made HTC sense look even better (which is hard to do).
As to the goldcard thing, there is a video on Youtube that walks you through step by step making it very easy for anyone.
alwayslearning said:
After flashing (now using CoreDroid) I have HUSPA back and my phone is so much faster. What I like about this ROM is it is very close to stock but no bloatware and he made HTC sense look even better (which is hard to do).
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Hmm....intriguing
Via the XDA app for the HTC Inspire
alwayslearning said:
I felt the same way all of you did about how great the phone is out of the box. But I needed to have it work as a hot spot and the upload is so slow out of the box because of AT&T. After flashing (now using CoreDroid) I have HUSPA back and my phone is so much faster. What I like about this ROM is it is very close to stock but no bloatware and he made HTC sense look even better (which is hard to do).
As to the goldcard thing, there is a video on Youtube that walks you through step by step making it very easy for anyone.
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I want to enable those upload speeds but when I did that on my captivates, the battery went to utter crap. I think it was due to using an European radio..how has battery been with it enabled?
My battery lasts any where from around 20 to 30 hours with heavy to moderate use with uploading enabled. Also just like leedroid android revolution is pretty much stock but faster better battery life and uploading enabled
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
My reasons to flash :
1 ) I like tidy. All that crap on the stock ROM annoys me.
2 ) APN hack to enable tether isn't tidy.
3 ) Speed. Revolution ROM is faster than stock, noticeably so.
4 ) Fixes. I have more faith in the XDA devs than I do in AT&T to fix problems
5 ) Battery. I'm getting great battery life on Revolution ROM, but I'm not a heavy user so stock would have been suitable for me here but I suspect *most* XDA peeps would fair better on a non-AT&T ROM.
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I want to enable those upload speeds but when I did that on my captivates, the battery went to utter crap. I think it was due to using an European radio..how has battery been with it enabled?
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I think the battery out of the box on this phone is the worse I have ever seen. I have a Desire (not HD) that I bought unlocked and it works on AT&T (got one for my wife as well) it has a BIGGER battery in it with a smaller screen that battery last forever.
In our beloved inspire (which I think is a great phone) for whatever reason they have put this very small battery in it and I could not get 6 hours out of it with my usage from the stock ROM.
On the custom ROM I am using I think battery use is still an issue but at least I can get a whole day out of it. It has improved and I know the Dev's will make it even better.
edit: the kernel and radio you use will also play an important role in battery life
Yeah, I was like that up until I finished the video tutorial on Gold Cards jumping from the captivate as well, that thing was flashing like...every three days. It was absurd. It was awesome, but going from a build where I liked everything but the GPS didn't work was super depressing. Gambling is fun and all, but not when some of your phone's core functionality is at stake :'( well I guess that's just a risk with flashing in general... but I just feel like with the captivate it was a necessity... and a risk. Here on the other hand, you wipe, wipe, and away!
P.S.
Does anyone who used to own a captivate still get a reaction to Galaxy S/Captivate news? I got sort of excited when I was reading engadget and I saw the Captivate 2.2 update and the Galaxy S Gingerbread leak. Then I remembered I have the ability to flash CM7.
Im trying to find a reason besides battery to flash..the phone is quick, Sense is really good and replaces a lot the widgets I already had. Im tempted just for the sake of doing it more than for a need
I never flash.... I was stock on my N1 and I will remain so on my Inspire.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
I'll more than likely root and flash Revolution in the next couple weeks...but I'm still lost to all the jargon in the Development section haha
I'm going to wait for the best one-click and any kinks to be worked out before I pull the trigger though
It took going through the app drawer with my 115 apps plus the AT&T stuff lagging all the way for me to think, "This phone needs Cyanogen." Haven't looked back, although I do want to flash one of the Sense Roms floating around. Sense was pretty amazing.
Sent from my CM7 Inspire
mudknot2005 said:
My battery lasts any where from around 20 to 30 hours with heavy to moderate use with uploading enabled. Also just like leedroid android revolution is pretty much stock but faster better battery life and uploading enabled
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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RacerX10 said:
My reasons to flash :
1 ) I like tidy. All that crap on the stock ROM annoys me.
2 ) APN hack to enable tether isn't tidy.
3 ) Speed. Revolution ROM is faster than stock, noticeably so.
4 ) Fixes. I have more faith in the XDA devs than I do in AT&T to fix problems
5 ) Battery. I'm getting great battery life on Revolution ROM, but I'm not a heavy user so stock would have been suitable for me here but I suspect *most* XDA peeps would fair better on a non-AT&T ROM.
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Hmm, hearing this I'd starting to convince me to flash.....decisions, decisions.....
Via the XDA app for the HTC Inspire
I would really love to flash but coming from the Cappy, my first android phone. Rooting this phone seems to be really confusing. The one click looks promising but there are some problems with it, that I hope Buddy fixes soon. The Attn1 method lost me. I have never been able to use adb on my computer for some reason. I have all the drivers installed and the androidsdk but for some reason I can never figure out the how to start to connect to my phone in the command window. I always get an error.
I bought and to be fully honest I am not happy with it! I think I will unroot it and try to sell it. Reasons:
ON stock ROM:
1. touchscreen issues (yes solved but let's be honest it's not what you would expect from the phone)
2. working slow (yes comparing to other android phones it does!!)
3. battery life is ridiculous ( I know Anker battery, yes people posting that they get 48 hours, yeah sure, I got 8 hours and investing extra money and keeping extra battery is not convenient, not with that price that you pay for phone)
4. At lest few more or less annoying bugs which happen to most or all of us which shouldn't with that kind of device (like you cannot charge it via USB!!! it simply drain more battery then it is charging!!!)
Custom ROM
1. Not much improvement with most sense ROM-s in terms of speed and battery life, they still share most of Stock ROM bugs
2. Aosp ROM-s do not exist at the moment or have so many bugs (ex MIUI) that they are not worth attention.
So rooting it is more or less useless unless you really need screenshots etc.
Comparing to Wildfire:
1. Battery life 36-48 h on Wildfire (CM7, 12-16 h on STOCK ROM) vs 8-12 h on sensation (any ROM on stock battery)
2. Speed definitely better as I wasn't able to use skype or pdf books smoothly on wildfire because it was so slow.
Comparing to Desire
1. Better battery life on Desire (both HD and S have longer life on sock battery)
2. They work FASTER because stock rom is better and custom ROM-s are better!!! Ridiculous!!!
Summary
For me the most important is battery life then being able to use Skype and PDF-s so I am slightly more happy about it then about Wildfire, but I think Wildfire S might be a better choice. However Deisre is far superior to Sensation in any aspect that I consider important which is battery, speed (pdf, skype), choice of custom ROM-s. If you consider same aspects important, save yourself some money and don't buy sensation. It's full of bugs, battery is a joke and aosp ROM-s are not developed properly.
After good experience with few different HTC phones this one is a disaster!!!
But maybe it's just me!!!
leyus said:
I bought and to be fully honest I am not happy with it! I think I will unroot it and try to sell it. Reasons:
ON stock ROM:
1. touchscreen issues (yes solved but let's be honest it's not what you would expect from the phone)
2. working slow (yes comparing to other android phones it does!!)
3. battery life is ridiculous ( I know Anker battery, yes people posting that they get 48 hours, yeah sure, I got 8 hours and investing extra money and keeping extra battery is not convenient, not with that price that you pay for phone)
4. At lest few more or less annoying bugs which happen to most or all of us which shouldn't with that kind of device (like you cannot charge it via USB!!! it simply drain more battery then it is charging!!!)
Custom ROM
1. Not much improvement with most sense ROM-s in terms of speed and battery life, they still share most of Stock ROM bugs
2. Aosp ROM-s do not exist at the moment or have so many bugs (ex MIUI) that they are not worth attention.
So rooting it is more or less useless unless you really need screenshots etc.
Comparing to Wildfire:
1. Battery life 36-48 h on Wildfire (CM7, 12-16 h on STOCK ROM) vs 8-12 h on sensation (any ROM on stock battery)
2. Speed definitely better as I wasn't able to use skype or pdf books smoothly on wildfire because it was so slow.
Comparing to Desire
1. Better battery life on Desire (both HD and S have longer life on sock battery)
2. They work FASTER because stock rom is better and custom ROM-s are better!!! Ridiculous!!!
Summary
For me the most important is battery life then being able to use Skype and PDF-s so I am slightly more happy about it then about Wildfire, but I think Wildfire S might be a better choice. However Deisre is far superior to Sensation in any aspect that I consider important which is battery, speed (pdf, skype), choice of custom ROM-s. If you consider same aspects important, save yourself some money and don't buy sensation. It's full of bugs, battery is a joke and aosp ROM-s are not developed properly.
After good experience with few different HTC phones this one is a disaster!!!
But maybe it's just me!!!
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I just got this 2 days ago, as a replacement for the Vibrant, so I have not had time to really play with it yet. Either way, i think its a step up from the Vibrant.
Upon rooting my Vibrant, I could tether, and there were a ton of custom roms that vastly improved the use of the phone.
So are you saying that since on sensation we can tether without the need to root, and the custom Roms are not an improvment over stock, there is no need?
---not flaming, just asking as i have not had a chance to really look into the custom roms. I was assuming that there were plenty of custom roms and they offered many features over stock...; am I mistaken?? again, Im just asking as I was going to root this weekend and throw a rom on there. I have not really had a chance to look at what the custom roms offer over stock. Any ideas?
thanks
I also received a sensation to replace the defective vibrant. It appears that roms for sensation are based on Sense. The development for CM rom is at early stage unlike vibrant. So I am not sure whether rooting will provide additional benefit at this stage with the sense based roms. Could anybody tell me why I should root this phone and install sense based roms.
Hello my friends,
i am so happy to buy the Sensation. Ok its have little problems but whitch phone have it not??
Befor i install a Custom Rom it´s work fine and fast but this was not enough for me (my girlfriend was contented with the stock rom) and with the new Rom it´s going more faster and more batterylife on day.
And are you interessted to play little bit with the Sensation you get a beautiful Smartphone.
Buy a bigger Battery, install a new Custom Rom. Finish.
Yours sincerely
BS
Stock ROM was rather crappy, but I heard (haven't tested) the OTA's bring a lot of improvements both speed- and batterywise.
When the stock ROM is replaced, I think it's an awesome phone. I would choose it any day over a SGS II for sure.
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I just got this 2 days ago, as a replacement for the Vibrant, so I have not had time to really play with it yet. Either way, i think its a step up from the Vibrant.
Upon rooting my Vibrant, I could tether, and there were a ton of custom roms that vastly improved the use of the phone.
So are you saying that since on sensation we can tether without the need to root, and the custom Roms are not an improvment over stock, there is no need?
---not flaming, just asking as i have not had a chance to really look into the custom roms. I was assuming that there were plenty of custom roms and they offered many features over stock...; am I mistaken?? again, Im just asking as I was going to root this weekend and throw a rom on there. I have not really had a chance to look at what the custom roms offer over stock. Any ideas?
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Custom ROM always offer some kind of improvement, but from my viewpoint with available for Sensation those aspects are insignificant, and I don't care about thetering so did not tried it or don't consider it main function for me.
If you think you will get such a nice choice of highly developed ROM-s as for Vibrant then forget about it. There is no serious AOSP ROM if that is what you asking about. If you not sens hater ( I am ) then yes there are decent choices.
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Stock ROM was rather crappy, but I heard (haven't tested) the OTA's bring a lot of improvements both speed- and batterywise.
When the stock ROM is replaced, I think it's an awesome phone. I would choose it any day over a SGS II for sure.
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I will try insertcoin now, Coredroid was ok but only improvement was in terms of speed. MIUI is a joke with all those bugs. CM7 very early development, again if someone looks for AOSP there is no good option.
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Buy a bigger Battery, install a new Custom Rom. Finish.
Yours sincerely
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Will do but after 3 ROM-s (stock, coredroid, MIUI) I am disappointed with results, and I don't think you should start using your phone from buying battery it is just not right, but simply don't have other option with Sensation.
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I also received a sensation to replace the defective vibrant. It appears that roms for sensation are based on Sense. The development for CM rom is at early stage unlike vibrant. So I am not sure whether rooting will provide additional benefit at this stage with the sense based roms. Could anybody tell me why I should root this phone and install sense based roms.
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Unless you need some kind of root only working app like tethering there is no point in doing it I think so don't root it. Sense sucks on both stock and custom ROM, as I already rooted mine I will try 2-3 more ROM-s but I think unrooting and selling this phone is best choice for me
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I will try insertcoin now, Coredroid was ok but only improvement was in terms of speed. MIUI is a joke with all those bugs. CM7 very early development, again if someone looks for AOSP there is no good option.
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No one bothered with CM7 or AOSP as it was clear ICS would be around very soon when the Sensation was released into the wild.
And still, HyperSensation and SelfKANG are very decent ROMs. InsertCoin is good too buy I didn't like Sense and there were a very versions very power-inefficient back when I switched away from it. Should be better by now, baad is a great chef.
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And still, HyperSensation and SelfKANG are very decent ROMs.
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OK will check them and install one of them fallowing your advice. In your footnote you still got info you are on Insertcoin so i was thinking that is ROM that you are so happy about As I said Stock sucks, Coredroid - better but not much improvement, MIUI - disaster.
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Custom ROM always offer some kind of improvement, but from my viewpoint with available for Sensation those aspects are insignificant, and I don't care about thetering so did not tried it or don't consider it main function for me.
If you think you will get such a nice choice of highly developed ROM-s as for Vibrant then forget about it. There is no serious AOSP ROM if that is what you asking about. If you not sens hater ( I am ) then yes there are decent choices.
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How long did you own a vibrant? Because you should be aware that one the phone has been out about a year longer than the sensation which means its better known... And they have a much more functional ics (so far) also due to this... But if you'd been around very long you would know that we waited forever for froyo and never got cm6 support. And barely got a real functional cm7 in about... August? Maybe slightly before but pretty sure that's when they finally got gps working fairly well. Either way it takes time to get to know the phone and such. I get that it seems like there's very little development currently compared to the vibrant but the vibrant has been around much longer...
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How long did you own a vibrant? Because you should be aware that one the phone has been out about a year longer than the sensation which means its better known... And they have a much more functional ics (so far) also due to this... But if you'd been around very long you would know that we waited forever for froyo and never got cm6 support. And barely got a real functional cm7 in about... August? Maybe slightly before but pretty sure that's when they finally got gps working fairly well. Either way it takes time to get to know the phone and such. I get that it seems like there's very little development currently compared to the vibrant but the vibrant has been around much longer...
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SO what is your point? That sensation is here not long enough to have decent rom available. Sry but I don't agree. Or maybe that justifies number of bugs in stock rom and phone itself as well? Or maybe in few months time battery will also start working better? From my viewpoint android phone should be good at stock and even better with custom rom and that is my experience with all HTC devices so far just not with this one. It is terrible with stock rom and not much better with custom rom.
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SO what is your point? That sensation is here not long enough to have decent rom available. Sry but I don't agree. Or maybe that justifies number of bugs in stock rom and phone itself as well? Or maybe in few months time battery will also start working better? From my viewpoint android phone should be good at stock and even better with custom rom and that is my experience with all HTC devices so far just not with this one. It is terrible with stock rom and not much better with custom rom.
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What bugs are you on about? Clearly you have a defective device.
& quit bashing Sense & the lack of AOSP roms. If you want one so bad then go learn how to code & cook one up yourself. We respect the devs & their decision on what to code & build. What you see us what you get. I'm just saying.
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SO what is your point? That sensation is here not long enough to have decent rom available. Sry but I don't agree. Or maybe that justifies number of bugs in stock rom and phone itself as well? Or maybe in few months time battery will also start working better? From my viewpoint android phone should be good at stock and even better with custom rom and that is my experience with all HTC devices so far just not with this one. It is terrible with stock rom and not much better with custom rom.
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Point being 5 months after vibrant Release people had similar ***** fits... With decent reason. But stock vibrant blew compared to stock sensation. So I don't have a clue what you are getting at.
Yeah considering this came stock gingerbread it'd seem that we should be able to get better rom support but i'm happy enough... You could easily sell the sensation and purchase a vibrant if you really think it's a better device but try odin it back to original stock and use the device and tell me it's better than the sensation...
I agree that cell phones had a lot of issues considering the phones cost upwards of $500 retail its a disappointment we can't get something 100% stable and reliable but this is pretty much any android phone not particular problem of htc or the sensation....
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Could anybody tell me why I should root this phone and install sense based roms.
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Well, rooting will allow you to check for presence of Carrier IQ. (no, I have not yet rooted.)
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What bugs are you on about? Clearly you have a defective device.
& quit bashing Sense & the lack of AOSP roms. If you want one so bad then go learn how to code & cook one up yourself. We respect the devs & their decision on what to code & build. What you see us what you get. I'm just saying.
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What bugs? Can't you read? I clearly mention at least few and guess what Holmes there is a sticky about fixing touchscreen because it is such a common thing in those phones I can assure you that every single thing I mention here is not unique to my device, I recommend you try search option once in a while. About roms I hate sense and that is it, there is no serious alternative as far as I know unless coding one on my own is considered an akternative then yeach what a great mobile I have..... not. And its not about bashing custom rom programmers I respect their effort and admire there work but it is simple matter of fact that so far all the roms I tested where not half as good as for other HTC devices.
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Point being 5 months after vibrant Release people had similar ***** fits... With decent reason. But stock vibrant blew compared to stock sensation. So I don't have a clue what you are getting at.
Yeah considering this came stock gingerbread it'd seem that we should be able to get better rom support but i'm happy enough... You could easily sell the sensation and purchase a vibrant if you really think it's a better device but try odin it back to original stock and use the device and tell me it's better than the sensation...
I agree that cell phones had a lot of issues considering the phones cost upwards of $500 retail its a disappointment we can't get something 100% stable and reliable but this is pretty much any android phone not particular problem of htc or the sensation....
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I compared sensation with desire and wildfire and yes I am seriously considering going back to desire and selling it. Will.try 2 or 3 more roms before doing that and maybe another battery but for this price I can easily get something more stable with similar speed better battery life and lots of cash left in my pocket for example desire s or desire HD. There are movies on YouTube that show desire is actually working faster then sensation.
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Lol. You CANNOT compare the wildfire to the sensation....
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I compared sensation with desire and wildfire and yes I am seriously considering going back to desire and selling it. Will.try 2 or 3 more roms before doing that and maybe another battery but for this price I can easily get something more stable with similar speed better battery life and lots of cash left in my pocket for example desire s or desire HD. There are movies on YouTube that show desire is actually working faster then sensation.
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Go for it then for sure. I have found the sensation a decent device and trust it will get support or decent resell value to the avg. User. And minus the speaker being weak compared to the vibrant im happy enough if I got another vibrant cheap enough I might go back till something better on the market but this is much faster and smoother than my vibrant
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Thinking about rooting my phone but I'm not sure if I should.
I bought my phone outside the US, my service provider is in Asia (Taiwan).
My phone is HTC Sensation Z710e.
I want to root because:
- I want to have access to the US Market, not my current countries; I want to access certain apps that aren't available outside the US.
- I want to upgrade to stock ICS when releases are more stable.
- I want to customize the look of my phone with things like CM or MIUI.
- I want to improve battery life (if possible).
I'm scared to root because:
- I don't understand ANY of the "rooting vocabulary" like s-off, kernel, rom, clockwork, radios, etc. Even the "noob" guides confuse me
- I don't want to ruin my phone.
- Because I'm in a different country I'm scared that I won't have service after rooting.
Right now my only experience with Android is using different launchers. I've tried around 10 but prefer GoLauncher because of the themes and widgets. I use my phone a lot and want more out of it. I love ICS! Not in love with Sense anymore.
What do you think I should do? Root or no.
Hey,
was not everyone in the beginning a noob?
To improve the battery life, you could underclock and undervolt the Cpu.
But this is just possible with another Kernel, like Faux oder Bricked.
S-off -> security off, the security off option allows you to write to the NAND,
a flash memory where the main parts of your phone are saved.
Kernel -> The Base Part of a Rom, includes the Drivers and so on.
Rom -> Like a Windows Version, there are different Roms like different Windows
Versions. A Rom is the whole Android on your phone.
Clockwork recovery -> the Recovery System you can install after Rooting, lets you install you own Roms, Updates etc. With another recovery than the Stock, you cant install OTA Updates, but you can update the same with a .zip file with the clockwork recovery.
Radio.... dont know exactly, something that has to be there for communicating
with the network etc.
So, I would just Root, if you want to use another Rom. There arent as much ways of doing things with rooted phones as with another Rom.
the easy answer would have been yes lol
Hi guy's,
I'm glad you've posted this up as I'm in the same boat. I want to try and get more out of my phone as I have done with my PC. Some of the basic terminology isn't explained in laymans terms on here though (not that I could find anyway!) So thanks for clearing up those bits of information.
As for Rooting your phone. I used the How-To thread in this section and did it pretty easily. Only had a few issues but the guides help you through really well.
I'm now looking at a phone that's rooted, clockworked, S-Off and SuperCID'd but I haven't unlocked it yet.
I'm going to spend the next few days looking through the various threads on here to find out whether there is one preferred ROM that will get my phone running faster and smoother.
Hope you manage to get yours done as easily as I did. It's always worth having a play with these things... Especially if you back it all up so that if it does go wrong, you can just reset it like nothing ever happened.
I say, root! The costum roms from mike are excellent, better battery life etc..
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It's easy to do, there's a lot of topics about it. Check noobsproof guide in Sensation Android Development. When you'll aknowledge basics you'll love huge range possibilities, roms, mods etc. And your Sensation will love u too
Thanks for the help. I might wait until CM9 releases or a perfect stock ICS ROM comes out.
So I will root, just waiting for those things.
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You can root without getting a new ROM, which is what I recently did. It lets you do things like run setCPU to underclock (and get huge improvement on battery life), use Titanium Backup to remove pre-installed apps, etc.
Just follow steps 1, 2 and 3 on the guide (S-off, install Recovery, Root- takes awhile, but most of the time goes to waiting for the phone to do the work).
good question! im also about to ask this. 1 more question is is the CM 7 alpha for sensation are stable to use?? Planning to try root n put CM. =)
Is their a particular ROM that most people use? I'd like to get a little better battery life and make my Sensation run a bit quicker if possible.
Also, Is their anything around that can make your GPS more accurate and speed up data rates?
The ARHD roms seem to be quite popular including the newest ICS build. Wouldn't hurt to go around and test out a few others to see if they fit your need.
And yes, there are some current hotfixes out there if you are having trouble with your GPS.
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The ARHD roms seem to be quite popular including the newest ICS build. Wouldn't hurt to go around and test out a few others to see if they fit your need.
And yes, there are some current hotfixes out there if you are having trouble with your GPS.
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Thanks Maverick. I'm not so much having issues with my GPS as wanting to boost it a little.
I use an app for recording my time on race tracks. It records things like the g-forces and the lap times as well as video and audio. The built in GPS is "okay" but I've heard a lot of people us an external GPS as it gives better data times ie. the built-in GPS = 5Hz compared to external GPS = 10Hz. I wondered if their would be some way of boosting the built in one so I don't need three things plugged into the car at once!
Are the ROMs as easy to flash and "un-flash" as the normal big updates I used to do every now and again on my HD2 etc?
Yeah, the Roms are pretty easy to install and remove if you don't like they way they work. As far as boosting the overall performance of the internal GPS.. I don't think there is any way to overclock that part of it. I could be wrong though.
Sounds good. I'll try and unlock it tomorrow and then try and install a rom or two. Looks like I'm going to try out the ARHD Rom first, and have a look at an overclock
I'll have a look around to see if theirs much that can be done to or with the built in GPS. It would be andy to get a bit better performance from it but I guess I can live with it until the next big thing comes along and takes my fancy
Hey,
I've haven't been on this forum for long.
I think you should definitively root. It takes almost no time at all to go through the noob guide and then in a couple of hours, if you really want to know about things like S-OFF, kernels, radios etc. you can check out the documentation online.
I've owned a HTC Desire before and I rooted that as well and flashed LeeDroid's custom ROM for the Desire. Now a friend is using the phone and she's most happy with it. It's a lot faster than the stock ROM for the Desire.
Right now I'm playing with an HTC Sesation. I've also been reticent on rooting it. The guide on the forum seemed a bit complicated and I didn't have the patience to go through every step, but it turned out to be a lot faster than I thought. The tool from Revolutionary disables the security and installs the bootloader and recovery with just one click. Than you would just flash any custom ROM, as they are all rooted and there you go.
what are the best roms for battery life?
best battery
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what are the best roms for battery life?
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First off: with Sense or without Sense does make a noticable difference because launchers and widgets differ a lot in battery usage.
With Sense:
In my case the unexpected winner of that comparison still is ARHD 5.0.2 with the new firmware flashed. It out-lives any other Sensation ROM by more than 40%.
Without Sense:
The differences were minimal.
If you don't want the risks of ICS which is still beta and comes with problems for many, MIUI.us was second best with the appropriate kernel. Since it's been more than two weeks since I tested MIUI and that one isn't stable either, I'm unwilling to advise you. You should ask in the thread.
In all of my comparisons I used JuiceDefender.
For battery life comparison you need to stick with a ROM for more than 24h and a few reboots.
I've tried LeeDroid, SensEay, Virtuous, all 3 ARHD, HyperSensation CM7, Miui.us, InsertCOIN.
hope this helps
So just putting the ARHD ROM on will also give me better battery life?
The main thing that worries me with ROM flashing is stability. I can't be without my phone for a day if I flash it then have problems while i'm at work. Are most of these roms etc stable when they are released? Is it mainly the overclocking and hardware mods that make it unstable?
Thanks for answering my questions... as you can see I'm a total N00B but you guys are helping me out loads and making me more confident to do it all
I think you should try Eleganica ROM for battery life you will like it for sure!! Give it a shot!
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Back again. This is so far what the battery life is giving me using Elegancia.ROM um ICS 4.0.1.
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Just to make things clear, I've not got the Sensation ICS upgrade yet - but I've become a lot less enthusiastic about it after seeing the screenshots.
To me, it still looks almost identical. Under the hood I'm sure the changes are numerous. And sure there are some changes to some aspects of the GUI, but it's really not the wholesale change that stock ICS brought in with the nice cool blue holo theme on the Galaxy Nexus. I know HTC want the differentiation in their handsets, but I have to say, for the first time in my Android life, I'm thinking about rooting and whether my next Android phone will be an HTC at all....
It just looks a bit tired and dated. The HTC One X looks nice on paper (although I wish it had the AMOLED screen of the S), but the screenshots when it shows the software are making me yawn.
I'm interested to hear if others feel the same or whether they are still excited about the upgrade. Maybe it's just me!?!
Anyway, I'm off to read about rooting I'd be interested to hear what you think the best ICS ROMs are.
And it's going to be exactly the same with other manufacturer phones too such as samsung who will do the same and put their software on top.
It brings a lot of nice little changes does ICS and definitely worth the upgrade. If you didn't want Sense then get an AOSP rom installed or buy a pure android phone.
Sense is very good though and feel it adds a lot to the phone that stock android can't do.
Phil
Thanks for your reply Phil. I must admit, I was hoping the SGS3 wouldn't have too much crap put on it - it could well be my next phone if it's relatively "clean".
Before ICS, I completely agree - Sense added a lot for me and made the whole system consistent and a pleasure to use. But since getting an Asus Transformer Prime and having stock ICS (pretty much), I've realised that as of ICS, there isn't really anything that Sense adds for me anymore. Google has basically implemented all the Sense stuff I liked, and has moved the interface on at the same time (which HTC doesn't seem to be doing).
Of course, this is all personal opinion....
Thanks for the heads up on AOSP. I think I need to read up on how to do it and what kind of stability it has on the Sensation.
This is what I thought as well. The UI changes are minimal. A few changes here and there, and everything looks more minimalistic. I was very excited about the new lock screen on Android, but we didn't even get that What I do like, though is how much faster the phone is now, and the face unlock screen is awesome.
However, I will never ever use a custom rom on this. Def not worth shortening it's life-cycle.
I like Sense but it's not very well integrated with ICS, it seems a lot more disjointed than it was with Gingerbread. I'm considering just going with stock ICS for the consistency.
I don't like a lot of the changes to Sense such as the quick launch bar thing on the home screen, I much preferred it before. The shots of Sense on the One X look a hell of a lot nicer though so hopefully that'll make me happy.
different people have different tastes.
while ics might not be so captivating to some, but others look at it as a huge step forward from gingerbread. i personally dont look at ui changes and other personalization stuff. i decide to buy or not based on the hardware. OP said the one X is not as impressive as the one S. (if that's what the S stands for) but if u look deeper, one X only hoists tegra 3 while the one S has qualcomms latest krait s4 which is obviously faster than tegra 3. but screens aside, the one S dont amuse me at all. it only has a crappy pentile matrix which carries images that are not so sharp and sometimes blurred edges..
that said, different people has different tastes..
really? what was the need to create this useless thread? this is a development web-site/forum that is geared towards tweaking the stock stuff to come up with something different.
but I have to say, for the first time in my Android life, I'm thinking about rooting and whether my next Android phone will be an HTC at all....
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are you giving us a favor by rooting or what's the point here? you're not happy with HTC's version of android? go get a different branded phone or an iphone in that case.
this *****ing and moaning is off the gum-line recently. i'm still on a gb build and patiently waiting for the final release. will it be all that great? i don't think so, but has there ever been a "perfect" anything?
Just to make things clear, I've not got the Sensation ICS upgrade yet
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your whole post should have stopped right there, where you're missing a period...
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However, I will never ever use a custom rom on this. Def not worth shortening it's life-cycle.
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Explain please??? How does using a custom rom shorten the life cycle?????
moshbeard said:
I like Sense but it's not very well integrated with ICS, it seems a lot more disjointed than it was with Gingerbread. I'm considering just going with stock ICS for the consistency.
I don't like a lot of the changes to Sense such as the quick launch bar thing on the home screen, I much preferred it before. The shots of Sense on the One X look a hell of a lot nicer though so hopefully that'll make me happy.
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Can you explain how sense is not integrated? If anything, it seems better than GB...
I really think ICS is one of those things you really need to experience and try it before voicing your opinions on it. I didn't think I'd like it as it looked ugly in pictures, but I can't imagine going back to GB now that I've been using it.
I'll ask my question again as I've never heard this ever, how does anybody think using a custom rom will shorten your phone's life??????
Just use nova launcher.
I think the ICS upgrade has been awesome so far. I isntalled a script to "remove sense" that was in the android revolution thread in the development section, and it's been great. HTC theme is still there (just no sense launcher/lock screen), and I use the nova lock screen and it seems to me, to be better than stock android in this configuration.
The phone's faster, the chrome browser is great, nova launcher is awesome. I was looking forward to a new phone, but not anymore. The new ones coming out arent that much better.
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OP said the one X is not as impressive as the one S. (if that's what the S stands for) but if u look deeper, one X only hoists tegra 3 while the one S has qualcomms latest krait s4 which is obviously faster than tegra 3. but screens aside, the one S dont amuse me at all. it only has a crappy pentile matrix which carries images that are not so sharp and sometimes blurred edges...
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When I was talking about the S being better - I meant the AMOLED screen - and that alone. I can't use the Sensation as a bedside clock because of light bleed, but my old Desire with the AMOLED screen was great at this. The colours were also really vibrant - although a bit less realistic.
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really? what was the need to create this useless thread? this is a development web-site/forum that is geared towards tweaking the stock stuff to come up with something different.
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Actually the development bit would be Sensation Android Development forum. This bit is called Sensation General which is described as: "Discussion about HTC Sensation (general chat, tips & tricks, etc)". The "general chat" bit should give it away if that wasn't clear enough for you.
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are you giving us a favor by rooting or what's the point here? you're not happy with HTC's version of android? go get a different branded phone or an iphone in that case.
this *****ing and moaning is off the gum-line recently. i'm still on a gb build and patiently waiting for the final release. will it be all that great? i don't think so, but has there ever been a "perfect" anything?
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I'm not "giving you a favor" (whatever that means). And as I said, I may well get another brand of phone - I actually wrote that in my original post. The point of the post was simply to gauge peoples reaction to HTCs efforts in porting ICS - as per the "general discussion" which this forum is designed for.
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your whole post should have stopped right there, where you're missing a period...
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Thanks for your kind words. Welcome to the block list. Troll.
kingston73 said:
Explain please??? How does using a custom rom shorten the life cycle????
I'll ask my question again as I've never heard this ever, how does anybody think using a custom rom will shorten your phone's life??????
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It means that if you use a custom rom that is not stable, and it overclocks your phone, the hardware will not function properly for as long as it would with stock rom. If anything is incorrectly "set" it will cause problems with the hardware, and this will eventually damage it. This doesn't concern leaked stock roms.
I've flashed my previous model as it was so cheap anyway,but with $400 phone I will not take the risk.
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When I was talking about the S being better - I meant the AMOLED screen - and that alone. I can't use the Sensation as a bedside clock because of light bleed, but my old Desire with the AMOLED screen was great at this. The colours were also really vibrant - although a bit less realistic.
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The Super LCD2 in the one X is better than the super amoled in the GNex! Search YouTube for one X vs GNex. The super LCD 2 is full RGB not pentile 720p display ( ips technology) with excellent viewing angles and vibrant colours. Watch some reviews and you will see what I'm talking about. I was a fan of Super Amoled until I saw the display of the one X.
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tifosi256 said:
When I was talking about the S being better - I meant the AMOLED screen - and that alone. I can't use the Sensation as a bedside clock because of light bleed, but my old Desire with the AMOLED screen was great at this. The colours were also really vibrant - although a bit less realistic.
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the sensation is proven to have 2 different screen manufacturers, one better than the other
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It means that if you use a custom rom that is not stable, and it overclocks your phone, the hardware will not function properly for as long as it would with stock rom. If anything is incorrectly "set" it will cause problems with the hardware, and this will eventually damage it. This doesn't concern leaked stock roms.
I've flashed my previous model as it was so cheap anyway,but with phone I will not take the risk.
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But you don't have to overclock, it's in your control with apps like SetCPU etc. Anyway, it'll only decrease the life if you leave it on a very high clock speed for a long period of time, basically, you'll have likely upgraded/lost/broken your phone before overclocking kills it from what I understand.
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But you don't have to overclock, it's in your control with apps like SetCPU etc. Anyway, it'll only decrease the life if you leave it on a very high clock speed for a long period of time, basically, you'll have likely upgraded/lost/broken your phone before overclocking kills it from what I understand.
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Yeah but how many of these people REALLY keep an eye on the phone's hardware and keep changing the cpu settings back and forth? I would guess not too many, unless you know what you're doing. I'm not claiming that overclocking will kill your phone instantly or anything like that.. It'd take months, or even years till that happened (depending on how high you've set it).
But even still, for some models there are some experimental / unfinished roms that have loads of bugs; the phone screen keeps flashing, it reboots randomly etc.. I cannot help but think this cannot be good for the hardware.
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Yeah but how many of these people REALLY keep an eye on the phone's hardware and keep changing the cpu settings back and forth? I would guess not too many, unless you know what you're doing. I'm not claiming that overclocking will kill your phone instantly or anything like that.. It'd take months, or even years till that happened (depending on how high you've set it).
But even still, for some models there are some experimental / unfinished roms that have loads of bugs; the phone screen keeps flashing, it reboots randomly etc.. I cannot help but think this cannot be good for the hardware.
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Keep an eye on the hardware as in check whether it's overheating or feeling too warm?
You don't need need to change the CPU settings back and forth though, they can just be set to Max 1600MHz and a Min of 384MHz and then select 'Set on Boot'.
True, those probably aren't great for the hardware but who would (or even could) use those kind of Pre-Alpha ROM's for more than a day even?
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It means that if you use a custom rom that is not stable, and it overclocks your phone, the hardware will not function properly for as long as it would with stock rom. If anything is incorrectly "set" it will cause problems with the hardware, and this will eventually damage it. This doesn't concern leaked stock roms.
I've flashed my previous model as it was so cheap anyway,but with $400 phone I will not take the risk.
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I have never heard of a single case of somebody shortening the life of their phone because they rooted and used a custom rom. I know people have bricked their phones in the ATTEMPT to to root or flash a new rom, but that's not the same thing. I just don't buy your theory, sorry. As for the OP, if you don't like ICS because you've used it for a week and prefer GB, that's good. But if you don't like it because of what you've HEARD or read, that's just pointless, as others here have already posted.
tifosi256 said:
Actually the development bit would be Sensation Android Development forum. This bit is called Sensation General which is described as: "Discussion about HTC Sensation (general chat, tips & tricks, etc)". The "general chat" bit should give it away if that wasn't clear enough for you.
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you're so full of fail... this whole forum, as in xda-developers.com is a place for, you guessed it - developers. I don't think chatting about something you haven't even tried counts
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I'm not "giving you a favor" (whatever that means). And as I said, I may well get another brand of phone - I actually wrote that in my original post. The point of the post was simply to gauge peoples reaction to HTCs efforts in porting ICS - as per the "general discussion" which this forum is designed for.
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you made it sound like it was a huge deal to root a phone, and now, for the first time in your life, you're going to go ahead and start reading about it. We already have numerous threads that deal with "reactions." How can you even have a "reaction" to something you haven't tried?
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Thanks for your kind words. Welcome to the block list. Troll.
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boo-boo-ka-ka
Honestly, I've used every version of sense... 1.0, 2.1, 3.0, 3.5, 3.6, AND 4. Sure, 4 is great. I do like it, it's a lot simpler than the others. (HTC said they felt Sense became bloated themselves.) However, I do believe that Sense 3.6 is a very nice version of Sense. It's not at all disjointed in my opinion like I have seen others say, I mean... compared to Sense 2.1 maybe... BUT Sense 2.1 didn't have any of the 3D or extra gloss that 3.0, 3.5, and 3.6 have. I feel that they really redesigned the Sense interface rather well for ICS and they integrated all of the things from the previous builds that made Sense great, plus some. I was actually thinking if 4.0 came out for Sensation I might even stay with 3.6 because it's a well built, stable version of Sense. They did a great job with the new button sliders, the new notification area looks, etc. I love it over GB Sense.
hey, I'm planning to buy Atrix 2 india. currently own a rooted HTC Legend running in 7.2 RC0
I would like to know (xda) opinion on this phone, things I'm looking for is
- phone overall built quality, voice, battery life?
- android developement with current ICS on this phone?
- any other issues ??
Thanks in advance
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I got my hands on finally to new atrix 2, yes it started with this post
I think the battery life is great, I can go days without charging. The quality is good, feels nice, clear voice, great display.
There's supposed to be an official ICS build in the near future, as far as ports and whatnot, I think there are a few in the works right now, and even one that boots, but the locked bootloader prevents any real progress. (Not 100% about that fact, but I know the bootloader is locked, so flashing roms is a chore.)
I have no issues with my Atrix 2, so in my opinion, it's a pretty decent phone.
I think I'm cursed in the battery department because everyone else seems to have great performancecwhile mine is subpar. It isn't bad, I can get a full day out of it, but by the end I'm around ~20% power. I do use a lot of data, though.
The display is great and very bright, even at its dimmest setting. The OMAP 4 is very fast, and some people have been able to overclock it up to 1.3GHz.
The main problem people havevwith this phone is the locked bootloader which makes AOSP ROM's unworkable right now, and hinders development.
Overall, the community is great, and the phone itself has a lot of potential that we're only scratching the surface of and I love it.
Sent from my MB865 on lfaber06's Superclocked ROM V 5, Update 2!
krisxda said:
hey, I'm planning to buy Atrix 2 india. currently own a rooted HTC Legend running in 7.2 RC0
I would like to know (xda) opinion on this phone, things I'm looking for is
- phone overall built quality, voice, battery life?
- android developement with current ICS on this phone?
- any other issues ??
Thanks in advance
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1. Good, good, good
2. ICS coming 3Q 2012
3. Nope
bookhouseboy23 said:
I think I'm cursed in the battery department because everyone else seems to have great performancecwhile mine is subpar. It isn't bad, I can get a full day out of it, but by the end I'm around ~20% power. I do use a lot of data, though.
The display is great and very bright, even at its dimmest setting. The Tegra 2 is very fast, and some people have been able to overclock it up to 1.3GHz.
The main problem people havevwith this phone is the locked bootloader which makes AOSP ROM's unworkable right now, and hinders development.
Overall, the community is great, and the phone itself has a lot of potential that we're only scratching the surface of and I love it.
Sent from my MB865 on lfaber06's Superclocked ROM V 5, Update 2!
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Agree with every word but it's TI OMAP 4430 and not Tegra 2
krisxda said:
hey, I'm planning to buy Atrix 2 india. currently own a rooted HTC Legend running in 7.2 RC0
I would like to know (xda) opinion on this phone, things I'm looking for is
- phone overall built quality, voice, battery life?
- android developement with current ICS on this phone?
- any other issues ??
Thanks in advance
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- good, awesome, excellent
- Q3 2012 https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
- 1 problem: there's no problem with Atrix 2 T^T
Rooting instructions please. I have seen more than one rooting method for this phone here on xda. Will someone please point me to the correct instructions for the Indian Atrix 2. Thanks.
athani said:
Rooting instructions please. I have seen more than one rooting method for this phone here on xda. Will someone please point me to the correct instructions for the Indian Atrix 2. Thanks.
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I used the lazy 1-click in the dev section and works like a charm..
Just look for the thread titled, "Bugs found in Atrix 2." That will give you a general idea of the issues with this phone.
There's also some reported issues with certain class 10 micro-SD cards. Easily avoidable by not buying class 10, but it is there and a real problem that some folks are having. On the plus side of the SD card front though, the Atrix 2 has been reported to work with at least one of the new SDXC super high capacity cards. So that's a good thing.
Another problem, the new version of gingerbread that moto just released has no root exploit, so folks are working around that by downgrading to the older rom using the FXZ files, then rooting, doing and OTA root keeper mod and then doing the OTA update getting the latest official ROMs and keeping their root. It's still possible so it's not really a problem, it is just a lot more convoluted than before to get root.
There's also the custom ROMs that folks here are building. All that said, I really enjoy the phone, and it plays the 3D games that I've downloaded from the market with no issues. Performance seems plenty fast.
krisxda said:
hey, I'm planning to buy Atrix 2 india. currently own a rooted HTC Legend running in 7.2 RC0
I would like to know (xda) opinion on this phone, things I'm looking for is
- phone overall built quality, voice, battery life?
- android developement with current ICS on this phone?
- any other issues ??
Thanks in advance
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If you get this phone you will love it.
-Build quality is very nice, voice call quality is superb, and the battery life is great (especially if you're coming from an HTC phone)
-ICS is due for us in Q3. CM9 is in the works but it's stalled while we wait for a different phone with our same radio to get ICS or for Motorola to push early builds of ICS to their servers for us to intercept
-There is a thread in the general section containing a VERY large amount of issues with this phone. Most of the issues discussed there are NOT phone-wide. Probably the biggest issue I've seen with this phone is that it can be quirky with microSD cards. Many class 10 cards are not fully functional with the A2. Also in the first version of GB we couldn't put apps on the SD card. That has been kind of fixed in the latest GB update but it still is buggy. Contrary to what's said above, there IS a root exploit that will work on our latest version of GB. One thing that you might consider a problem is that its bootloader is locked... this means that we can't flash custom kernels or radios.
Awesome phone. Built well. Very good screen,very good sound, cam quality totally ok. Talking quality very good. Battery life is fine and so far everything is just working flawless here. You will like it. It is definitely one of the best handset you get for that price. :beer:
Sent from my ME865 using XDA
cogeary said:
Contrary to what's said above, there IS a root exploit that will work on our latest version of GB.
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Thanks for that correction. I see the FAQ thread has updated links but did not see a new root thread so I missed that update. So that part of my comment is no longer relevant.
Hey Guys, I got my A2 today. The one problem is that the capacitive backlight does not turn on most of the time. Kind of comes on at its whim. Is it a known issue or shall I get a replacement?
athani said:
Hey Guys, I got my A2 today. The one problem is that the capacitive backlight does not turn on most of the time. Kind of comes on at its whim. Is it a known issue or shall I get a replacement?
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Take your free hand and cup the top of the phone making sure to cover the front facing camera. I'm not sure where it is, but somewhere there is a sensor. The capacitor lights should light up in a normally lit room indoors with your hand covering the sensor. Take your hand off and the lights should turn off. This is how my phone behaves. At least that's one test you can run.
Sent from my rooted Atrix 2 SuperCharged V5
Asmodae said:
Another problem, the new version of gingerbread that moto just released has no root exploit
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Not true. There is a root exploit for 2.3.6, the method u described was only needed the first few days following the release of the update.
Sent from my MB865 using XDA App
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Take your free hand and cup the top of the phone making sure to cover the front facing camera. I'm not sure where it is, but somewhere there is a sensor. The capacitor lights should light up in a normally lit room indoors with your hand covering the sensor. Take your hand off and the lights should turn off. This is how my phone behaves. At least that's one test you can run.
Sent from my rooted Atrix 2 SuperCharged V5
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Thanks. I've just discovered that the problem occurs only when the phone is charging on the mains.
A2 is very fast, beauty and WebTop is a very good ideia, Motoblur is sucks!
This phone, A2, is worlds more beautiful than the OGA. It even has the better, to me, GPU. Its slick and smooth with just enough lube......i mean, its awesome. Im a power user and average 18-22 hours between charges. They also took away that PenTile display. Ill hold on to my 150 brand new Craigslist phone till ICS this year.
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It's only my second Android phone, but it's a beauty. Fast, no MotoBlur crap, all the bells and whistles you could ask for. Dropped a 32GB card in it and I'm happy. Some have had problems holding a wifi connection, but mine is solid. A keeper!