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Sideload Apps?

Just curious if this phone will have a workaround to sideload Android Apps like the HTC did for Aria (Full Description Here if you didnt know: http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/htc-sync-lets-att-aria-owners-sideload-apps )? If anyone knows please post! I was on the fence when I saw no camera flash, but seeing that AT&T will be restricting (why? Iphone competition?) unknown Android Apps is another big one. So if atleast there is a workaround, I will consider switching to this phone.
If not, ill just keep hoping for Android on my HTC hd2

I'm not certain either. I did download the Samsung Kies program last night but didn't look at it since I don't have a Captivate to hook it to until Sunday. I have a reasonable expectation that it will allow you to do it since you can buy apps from Samsung directly in the program.
Also consider that this phone has already been rooted. My understanding is that you can load "unauthorized" apps and apps that require root access once this has been done. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

meatrocket said:
I'm not certain either. I did download the Samsung Kies program last night but didn't look at it since I don't have a Captivate to hook it to until Sunday. I have a reasonable expectation that it will allow you to do it since you can buy apps from Samsung directly in the program.
Also consider that this phone has already been rooted. My understanding is that you can load "unauthorized" apps and apps that require root access once this has been done. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
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youre right. sideloading wont be a problem

Awesome. Thanks for the quick responses guys. Looks like Ill be heading to my AT&T store. Been wanting to have a fully fledged smart android phone on at&t for awhile now. Heres hoping for the best

I was under the impression that the root alone wont give that option back. Do you need a custom rom as well or does the root really take care of the issue by itself?

*foot in mouth*

systoxity said:
you can sideload with samsungs app if you grabbed it before they pulled it back. Im sure if you did a google for it or asked here someone might have a mirror to it. I didnt grab it while it was up cuz i didnt think they'd push the undo button on it.
p.s. i believe you wont need a root if you had that app.
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Do you know the name of the app?

fk me i should go to bed. I was thinking about the htc aria. Totally diff story.
But further research shows that peeps have already tested sideloading and it works through the ADB. I didn't find a full review however. Try to do a google search for how to side load captivate adb and see if anything useful pops up. let us know. If you don't find anything ill properly look into it tomorrow

systoxity said:
fk me i should go to bed. I was thinking about the htc aria. Totally diff story.
But further research shows that peeps have already tested sideloading and it works through the ADB. I didn't find a full review however. Try to do a google search for how to side load captivate adb and see if anything useful pops up. let us know. If you don't find anything ill properly look into it tomorrow
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Found the link. Its not an app really. Read it here. Sounds extremely simple and straightforward. Cant wait.
http://forum.androidcentral.com/t-captivate/22875-captivate-sideload-app.html

Anyone get this to work? The phone shows up when you do the devices command, but anytime I try to push an apk it says permission denied. ?

BoostedSR20 said:
Anyone get this to work? The phone shows up when you do the devices command, but anytime I try to push an apk it says permission denied. ?
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try "install" command instead of "push" command. It worked for me.

wpb2 said:
try "install" command instead of "push" command. It worked for me.
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Ok, it worked... half. I am trying to get the HTC IME keyboard on, it has 2 apk's to install. One worked fine, when I tried the other it gave me this this error:
install_failed_older_sdk
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BoostedSR20 said:
Ok, it worked... half. I am trying to get the HTC IME keyboard on, it has 2 apk's to install. One worked fine, when I tried the other it gave me this this error:
install_failed_older_sdk
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I figured it out, I was trying to install the Froyo version. Oops.. works fine now.

Sideload how-to recently posted by none other than Samsung:
ars.samsung.com/customer/usa/jsp/faqs/faqs_view_us.jsp?SITE_ID=22&PG_ID=0&AT_ID=303992&PROD_SUB_ID=0&PROD_ID=558&EMAIL_ID=[/url]
(sorry, new user, can't post link - cut'n'paste)

[Q] Is there a reason to Root a Xoom?

Have my Xoom WiFi pre-ordered and delivery is supposed to be next week. I am coming from a Viewsonic G-Tablet (will still have two of them, just I won't be using) where the ONLY way to make use of them is by rooting and installing a third-party ROM.
With the Xoom, it seems like rooting it is more of an intellectual exercise than something that would make a big difference in day to day use. Is there something I'm missing?

EwanG said:
Have my Xoom WiFi pre-ordered and delivery is supposed to be next week. I am coming from a Viewsonic G-Tablet (will still have two of them, just I won't be using) where the ONLY way to make use of them is by rooting and installing a third-party ROM.
With the Xoom, it seems like rooting it is more of an intellectual exercise than something that would make a big difference in day to day use. Is there something I'm missing?
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1) Delete the crap you don't want
2) Overclock
3) Titanium backup
4) Usb Hosting
5) One day custom roms

bwcorvus said:
1) Delete the crap you don't want
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Anything in particular you are thinking of?
2) Overclock
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Unless that helps video playback, I doubt I want to run my battery down or possibly overheat the tablet.
3) Titanium backup
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I use that on my G-Tablet because I can't be sure the market will be stable from one refresh to the next. But is there a real need for it on the Xoom?
4) Usb Hosting
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Nothing that ES File Manager and a Network drive won't take care of, but point taken
5) One day custom roms
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Given Google's announcement about the HC stuff not being released anytime soon, I wouldn't be holding my breath on that.
So basically, the same reasons I might want to do it on my Nexus One. But it's not like the G-Tablet where I'm going to go from hardly acceptable to Notebook replacement is what I'm hearing.

True...as far as deleting apps I delete a ton. The browser, the games, and quick office is just a few. I backup my evo files and bring them over to the xoom (like games).
Sent From My Evo

bwcorvus said:
True...as far as deleting apps I delete a ton. The browser, the games, and quick office is just a few. I backup my evo files and bring them over to the xoom (like games).
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woa! you deleted the browser? i use opera mostly, but i would sooo not be comfortable doing that. just raised an eyebrow, i'm sure you have your reasons, just never heard of someone doing that. and i've been using/tweaking android for years now.

diaa08 said:
woa! you deleted the browser? i use opera mostly, but i would sooo not be comfortable doing that. just raised an eyebrow, i'm sure you have your reasons, just never heard of someone doing that. and i've been using/tweaking android for years now.
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I use dolphin so i delete it from all my devices Don't need programs that i don't use taking up space i need.

I don't recommend deleting the stock browser, and here is why;
I have a rooted Droid running UD 7.0. It's set up with Sweeter Home, etc,just the way I like it.
When Google Gesture Search came out, I spent days trying to figure out why I couldn't get it to work. I found out by trial & error (and a LOT of restoring ROMs!) that it was because I had deleted the stock browser in favor of Dolphin.
-Prob'ly nuttin, but because of all the unknowns, I expect I'll keep the stock basics until I can do a systematic, controlled delete. Just my 2 sense, err, cents.

bwcorvus said:
I use dolphin so i delete it from all my devices Don't need programs that i don't use taking up space i need.
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dude, on the xoom, how much space do you need? the browser is what 8meg, max? i use other browsers too, just would never delete the stock browser, to each their own.

diaa08 said:
dude, on the xoom, how much space do you need? the browser is what 8meg, max? i use other browsers too, just would never delete the stock browser, to each their own.
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I NEED IT ALL
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bwcorvus said:
I NEED IT ALL
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Agreed.
Not to mention its worth it for the overclock alone. I have not noticed a change in battery life, and in terms of heat the dual core runs around 90 tops under heavy use.

These threads are useless, this Guy has a rooted device and knows what functions root already does. Why is he asking us what we will do with it when he already knows. Someone says removed crapware, then he gives an argument. Someone says overclock or custom then he gives another argument. C'mon man you already know what root brings, just determine if you need it or not because everyone's needs and wants are different.
Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk

p-slim said:
These threads are useless, this Guy has a rooted device and knows what functions root already does. Why is he asking us what we will do with it when he already knows. Someone says removed crapware, then he gives an argument. Someone says overclock or custom then he gives another argument. C'mon man you already know what root brings, just determine if you need it or not because everyone's needs and wants are different.
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Just to clarify, I have a couple of rooted Viewsonic G-Tablets. I haven't rooted my Xoom yet because:
A) I haven't got it yet (3/29 according to UPS)
B) It looks like it's a more complicated procedure at this point since there isn't native SD Card support
So I was trying to decide whether rooting was necessary (which it very much is on the G-Tablets), or just something desirable. And in the latter case, if there's something that would let me do that I would really miss.
At this point it sounds like there are three things I give up by not rooting, and the only one of those I don't have an acceptable workaround for is the overclocking. But I didn't want to hijack my own thread by starting a discussion on that, and so have been following the thread about OC instead.
FWIW...

Only reason I rooted my xoom was for the ability to play movies stutter free directly from my net shares...other than that no other reason...doesn't need to be overclocked and not really in to the custom rom game.
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myv6mustang said:
Only reason I rooted my xoom was for the ability to play movies stutter free directly from my net shares...other than that no other reason...doesn't need to be overclocked and not really in to the custom rom game.
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What player are you using? I assume you needed the CIFS support for this?

yes Cifs from the market. Using rockplayer until vplayer releases support for the Xoom.

I had a Viewsonic on Saturday (returning it monday) and i tried all the custom roms, but the main issue is the terrible display, i found not only do you need hold it in front of you, it still wasnt perfect until you held it on a weird angle. Even for 339.00 it's not worth it. I liked the USB port on it but it's ready to go back to the store tommorow. The Xoom screen is much much better (I had them both next to each other all day trying to justify). Heck, i might bring both back and just keep my Nook Color.. Time will tell... Battery life with the Tiamat kernal was about 9 hours but i started it at 72%.
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Just to clarify, I have a couple of rooted Viewsonic G-Tablets. I haven't rooted my Xoom yet because:
A) I haven't got it yet (3/29 according to UPS)
B) It looks like it's a more complicated procedure at this point since there isn't native SD Card support
So I was trying to decide whether rooting was necessary (which it very much is on the G-Tablets), or just something desirable. And in the latter case, if there's something that would let me do that I would really miss.
At this point it sounds like there are three things I give up by not rooting, and the only one of those I don't have an acceptable workaround for is the overclocking. But I didn't want to hijack my own thread by starting a discussion on that, and so have been following the thread about OC instead.
FWIW...
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I am having the same thoughts myself.
I jailbroke all my iphones, I've rooted all my android devices, but, for some reason, I am not anxious to root the xoom
I think once sd card support comes, and, when there are MORE rom/kernel choices, it might be more desirable to do it.
for trouble free viewing of hd videos, just rip with handbrake, or a similar program and watch them with Vital player..

bwcorvus said:
I use dolphin so i delete it from all my devices Don't need programs that i don't use taking up space i need.
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U do know that is system space and you cant access it, right? thats not good and can cause the system to become unstable. Its space you will never see or be able to use so leave it. Get an app that hides apps from your tray and your problem solved ina safe manner..but hey, to each his own.

wase4711 said:
I am having the same thoughts myself.
I jailbroke all my iphones, I've rooted all my android devices, but, for some reason, I am not anxious to root the xoom
I think once sd card support comes, and, when there are MORE rom/kernel choices, it might be more desirable to do it.
for trouble free viewing of hd videos, just rip with handbrake, or a similar program and watch them with Vital player..
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I couldnt agree more. I use handbrake for ripping also and I also don't see any current use in rooting a Xoom. Movies play crystal clear..Battery life is 9hours..
I just think some people are never satisfied..lol..like we're spoiled brats.
Im interested in the process but people are tweaking and reaching like this beast of a tablet isnt dual core and on the lastest version of android.
This is a Xoom and not a G1..lol...Not yelling..just made a point that we are never content until we brake some ****.
Google doesnt want the OEM using and skinning their **** anymore..atleast without that licensing/kiss our Google,rich ass Fee..so they probably wont release Honeycomb until 2012 I hear anyway.
So in theory u guys are holding your breath for a Dragons fart.

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Just received my Transformer and need help

I received my Transformer about 3 1/2 hours ago. So far I think it is just great!! I do have a question I bought a 16 gb micro sd card and there are no instructions I can find in manual and I have been unable to install the card. I push it in and it just pops right back out. Any and all info on this or tips in general about the device are greatly and warmly appreciated

You just keep pushing until it locks in unless your device is defective. I had to use my thumbnail to push it in. It's pretty standard.

Just push it all the way in. It should click into place and should be flush with the casing
Also. Make sure the "words-letters" on the micro SD card are facing the screen. Use your nail or maybe to push it in

turbulent28 said:
Just push it all the way in. It should click into place and should be flush with the casing
Also. Make sure the "words-letters" on the micro SD card are facing the screen. Use your nail or maybe to push it in
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Finally got it in. never have had to push that hard with sd cards in the past. So far I really really like this device. I have tried the Xoom and the Acer Iconia and they do not compare at all to what I have experienced so far with the TRansformer. Thought about rooting it but right after turning it on I got notification of an update so I let it do its thing ad it turned out it was for 3.01 not 3.1 I guess the 3.1 update is to be pushed out tomorrow, so I believe I will wait. Any one way easier than another as far as rooting and applying cwm recovery? I notice there are a couple posted in dev section. Thanks for all of the help.

tenbeau said:
Finally got it in. never have had to push that hard with sd cards in the past. So far I really really like this device. I have tried the Xoom and the Acer Iconia and they do not compare at all to what I have experienced so far with the TRansformer. Thought about rooting it but right after turning it on I got notification of an update so I let it do its thing ad it turned out it was for 3.01 not 3.1 I guess the 3.1 update is to be pushed out tomorrow, so I believe I will wait. Any one way easier than another as far as rooting and applying cwm recovery? I notice there are a couple posted in dev section. Thanks for all of the help.
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Easiest way is downgrade to .9 and use BLOB_V5 following this guide http://androidroot.mobi/asus-eee-pad-transformer-tf101-root-cwm-recovery/
I suggest flashing 3.1 primeordial after rooting.

frosty5689 said:
Easiest way is downgrade to .9 and use BLOB_V5 following this guide http://androidroot.mobi/asus-eee-pad-transformer-tf101-root-cwm-recovery/
I suggest flashing 3.1 primeordial after rooting.
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ok thanks!! I am not sure what I will do yet. Going to wait a day or two to see if I will be keeping it. Can we not send text messages with this device? I thought with wifi it would be possible. Anyone know???

tenbeau said:
ok thanks!! I am not sure what I will do yet. Going to wait a day or two to see if I will be keeping it. Can we not send text messages with this device? I thought with wifi it would be possible. Anyone know???
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Sync SMS works in conjunction with dropbox.
market.android.com/details?id=com.d0lph1nk1ng.syncsms&feature=search_result
not sure if there are any free alternatives.

xformulax said:
Sync SMS works in conjunction with dropbox.
market.android.com/details?id=com.d0lph1nk1ng.syncsms&feature=search_result
not sure if there are any free alternatives.
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Thanks i will be getting that app and adding dropbox.

not to piggy back on this topic but....Does Google voice work with honeycomb?

david279 said:
not to piggy back on this topic but....Does Google voice work with honeycomb?
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i miss this the most.
google voice has telephony dependencies which means in it's current state it will not work on a tablet without voice functions.... but the google team says they're working on it.
hmmm, i did some more looking and found a modded apk that might work. forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=537977&d=1299700727
edit 2: newer version: forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13545805&postcount=172
edit 3: i installed it and it works fine.

frosty5689 said:
I suggest flashing 3.1 primeordial after rooting.
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What makes this ROM any better than the stock?

Digiguest said:
What makes this ROM any better than the stock?
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Optimized SD card speed, BusyBox, CIFS, Tun (OpenVPN) preloaded and root access. You can use SetCPU to downclock when you have your screen off, saves more battery. Titanium Backup is also a good one that lets you backup just about anything and disable any preloaded software.

frosty5689 said:
Optimized SD card speed, BusyBox, CIFS, Tun (OpenVPN) preloaded and root access. You can use SetCPU to downclock when you have your screen off, saves more battery. Titanium Backup is also a good one that lets you backup just about anything and disable any preloaded software.
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To be honest, on phones I don't mind rooting / ROM'ing (if that's a term), but with my TF I'm way too protective. I'm beginning to realize that when you root / tinker things can definitely start to go wrong and often times bugs are introduced / performance can actually degrade over time at least. Then again, I don't have issues with battery life/speed at all or need any of the extra features provided by new kernels / ROMs. The only thing I do really miss is removing the bloat, but personally I'd rather know that the OS is coming directly from ASUS/Google and hasn't been toyed with at all
I know most people, especially on these forums will disagree though

Hulu and netfix

So as per the subject line with as popular as this phone is why don't we have a hulu plus app or Netflix for it yet for stock?
You would think it would be here by now ...just my thoughts. Anyone have a timeline for release on those?
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no clue why Netflix and Hulu are picking and choosing. I am sure they will eventually roll out to most devices, as for when nobody has any clue.

my understanding is they may be staggering due to bandwidth concerns

adevilfish said:
my understanding is they may be staggering due to bandwidth concerns
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I would wager people could rape bandwidth far easier on their servers streaming from a computer over a smartphone.

spoke to LG rep and Netflix yesterday. LG says it doesnt have it because that's the way Tmo asked for the phone to be built. Netflix said they are "constantly expanding their platform for devices" but no timeline.

Originally, netflix was gearing up to release it's application to specific chipsets first and foremost... (qualcomm)
No idea anymore.

brett_day said:
no clue why Netflix and Hulu are picking and choosing. I am sure they will eventually roll out to most devices, as for when nobody has any clue.
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I read somewhere about there being an Android Market unlocker that allowed users to download and use netflix. Although I haven't tried it myself I would certainly think that the HTC netflix app could be installed on any phone.

ebennick said:
I read somewhere about there being an Android Market unlocker that allowed users to download and use netflix. Although I haven't tried it myself I would certainly think that the HTC netflix app could be installed on any phone.
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not if the app requires a qualcomm processor to decode the encrypted data that the netflix app is pulling from the servers...

On stock, hell no.
On CM7 at least Netflix works. You have to edit the "build.prop" file in system.
But... Its pointless to do this, because Data will stop working. So, you have to be connected to WiFi for netflix to stream.
Even if you force Netflix, you have to use WiFi, not the 4G network for now at least.
Who knows.

vmartinez39 said:
On stock, hell no.
On CM7 at least Netflix works. You have to edit the "build.prop" file in system.
But... Its pointless to do this, because Data will stop working. So, you have to be connected to WiFi for netflix to stream.
Even if you force Netflix, you have to use WiFi, not the 4G network for now at least.
Who knows.
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Not true. Data works just fine here after the build.prop edit. Been using it that way for a couple weeks.

phburks said:
Not true. Data works just fine here after the build.prop edit. Been using it that way for a couple weeks.
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Same here. I just finished watching a show on Netflix.
I was able to get it to work without the build.prop edit. Then the speed changed again to running double speed, so I went ahead and edited build.prop. Just a moment ago I started up Netflix and it was now running half speed. After a reboot it played fine.
If other words... it is unstable as hell, but still better then nothing.

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Not true. Data works just fine here after the build.prop edit. Been using it that way for a couple weeks.
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Does your MMS work with the build.prop edit? Everytime I edit NY build.prop my MMS doesn't work..
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vmartinez39 said:
On stock, hell no.
On CM7 at least Netflix works. You have to edit the "build.prop" file in system.
But... Its pointless to do this, because Data will stop working. So, you have to be connected to WiFi for netflix to stream.
Even if you force Netflix, you have to use WiFi, not the 4G network for now at least.
Who knows.
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Dude what are u talking about? This is the second time u said this it is false info bro. My data works fine with the build.prop as a matter a fact I even use it with tmobiles network sometimes u must have done something wrong try a clean install u have to delete the app if u have it installed then do the build.prop. u go to root explorer go to system then go to build.prop. then hit ro. At the top to change permissions then open build.prop in text editor then scroll down to model, erase the LG p999 or what ever it says and type in htc-vision. Do it just like I have it with the dash and all. Ok after that go to manufacture and erase what's in there and type HTC. Back out when done then hit save, then at the top change it back to rw. And reboot! Then install netflix. And woila! Ur golden! now everytime u install a nightly u have to do this method because the new nightly over writes it. It sucks but that's what u gota do just remember to uninstall Netflix before u redo method again. And everything works fine for me changing the build.prop does nothing. My phone works great and so does data. I know two other people who did this method and have no problems at all so people it's safe to do my kids watch it on my phone everyday. And I'm running cm7 nightly 70 and have done this the past 20 nightlys

Seanathan said:
Does your MMS work with the build.prop edit? Everytime I edit NY build.prop my MMS doesn't work..
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MMS works fine for me.

[Q] Why root?

So, I rooted my Nook Color and my Nook Tablet, and that made sense to me, because they were so locked down. But this thing connects to my PC with no problems, and there's nothing I haven't been able to install on it. What is the point of rooting?

Running software not available without having root rights (OpenVPN, Titanium backup, Ad blocker, ...)

Hmm, okay. Doesn't seem worth the hassle. Thanks, though.

loribuono said:
hmm, okay. Doesn't seem worth the hassle. Thanks, though.
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correct ! :d:d:d:d:d:d:d

I don't see any reason to root the note 10.1
I had to return my first one because rooting it broke the s pen and flashing stock firmware didn't fix it.
I didn't need to root in the first place, just did it out of habit.
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This device is great out the box. So for me, I feel no meed to root it yet. Once roms mature and developement and custom kernels pick up more, ill likely root.

I like the fact I can root my devices as it gives more flexibility if I need it.
I also like my clock to be accurate and I can't use clocksync properly without root...

Droidwall, titanium backup and clocksync.
Do I need to say more?

titanium backup! i need it to restore my previous device's apps

I did it to get rid of the damn mini apps.

I rooted purely for Titanium Backup and Sixaxis. Totally worth it.

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I rooted purely for Titanium Backup and Sixaxis. Totally worth it.
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That would also be the two reasons for me to root my Note 10.1 at some point down the road, but first I have to get it. Hopefully next week
Dousan...

Why would you want root access?
Well, ask yourself this...
Would you be satisfied with only your desktop and start menu as a user?
Or you would prefer to have access to C:\ as an administrator?
It's the difference between REALLY having control over your device vs having the illusion you have control of your device.
Titanium Backup, I can't stress enough how useful TB is. Between backing up, restoring, moving save data to another device, not to mention being able to save it all to cloud storage. If you ever have to do a factory reset, TB is imo the best way to keep your data.
Ad Away. Doesn't need to be explained.
ability to remove worthless stock software, or freeze it (via Titanium Backup).
access to apps that you otherwise might never have access to (example - Google Now before it got downgraded)
because it's easy to do.

everybody is doing it!

Chicks dig it.

mitchellvii said:
Chicks dig it.
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:laugh:

Thanks for all your responses, everyone. I'll consider it. But given that I started this thread and am a straight female, this last reason is probably the least persuasive.
mitchellvii said:
Chicks dig it.
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Guys dig it..... :laugh:

Nice!
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Guys dig it..... :laugh:
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You are not really the owner if the device until u rooted it