So, I rooted my Nook Color and my Nook Tablet, and that made sense to me, because they were so locked down. But this thing connects to my PC with no problems, and there's nothing I haven't been able to install on it. What is the point of rooting?
Running software not available without having root rights (OpenVPN, Titanium backup, Ad blocker, ...)
Hmm, okay. Doesn't seem worth the hassle. Thanks, though.
loribuono said:
hmm, okay. Doesn't seem worth the hassle. Thanks, though.
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correct ! :d:d:d:d:d:d:d
I don't see any reason to root the note 10.1
I had to return my first one because rooting it broke the s pen and flashing stock firmware didn't fix it.
I didn't need to root in the first place, just did it out of habit.
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This device is great out the box. So for me, I feel no meed to root it yet. Once roms mature and developement and custom kernels pick up more, ill likely root.
I like the fact I can root my devices as it gives more flexibility if I need it.
I also like my clock to be accurate and I can't use clocksync properly without root...
Droidwall, titanium backup and clocksync.
Do I need to say more?
titanium backup! i need it to restore my previous device's apps
I did it to get rid of the damn mini apps.
I rooted purely for Titanium Backup and Sixaxis. Totally worth it.
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I rooted purely for Titanium Backup and Sixaxis. Totally worth it.
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That would also be the two reasons for me to root my Note 10.1 at some point down the road, but first I have to get it. Hopefully next week
Dousan...
Why would you want root access?
Well, ask yourself this...
Would you be satisfied with only your desktop and start menu as a user?
Or you would prefer to have access to C:\ as an administrator?
It's the difference between REALLY having control over your device vs having the illusion you have control of your device.
Titanium Backup, I can't stress enough how useful TB is. Between backing up, restoring, moving save data to another device, not to mention being able to save it all to cloud storage. If you ever have to do a factory reset, TB is imo the best way to keep your data.
Ad Away. Doesn't need to be explained.
ability to remove worthless stock software, or freeze it (via Titanium Backup).
access to apps that you otherwise might never have access to (example - Google Now before it got downgraded)
because it's easy to do.
everybody is doing it!
Chicks dig it.
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Chicks dig it.
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Thanks for all your responses, everyone. I'll consider it. But given that I started this thread and am a straight female, this last reason is probably the least persuasive.
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Chicks dig it.
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Guys dig it..... :laugh:
Nice!
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Guys dig it..... :laugh:
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You are not really the owner if the device until u rooted it
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Have my Xoom WiFi pre-ordered and delivery is supposed to be next week. I am coming from a Viewsonic G-Tablet (will still have two of them, just I won't be using) where the ONLY way to make use of them is by rooting and installing a third-party ROM.
With the Xoom, it seems like rooting it is more of an intellectual exercise than something that would make a big difference in day to day use. Is there something I'm missing?
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Have my Xoom WiFi pre-ordered and delivery is supposed to be next week. I am coming from a Viewsonic G-Tablet (will still have two of them, just I won't be using) where the ONLY way to make use of them is by rooting and installing a third-party ROM.
With the Xoom, it seems like rooting it is more of an intellectual exercise than something that would make a big difference in day to day use. Is there something I'm missing?
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1) Delete the crap you don't want
2) Overclock
3) Titanium backup
4) Usb Hosting
5) One day custom roms
bwcorvus said:
1) Delete the crap you don't want
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Anything in particular you are thinking of?
2) Overclock
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Unless that helps video playback, I doubt I want to run my battery down or possibly overheat the tablet.
3) Titanium backup
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I use that on my G-Tablet because I can't be sure the market will be stable from one refresh to the next. But is there a real need for it on the Xoom?
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Nothing that ES File Manager and a Network drive won't take care of, but point taken
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Given Google's announcement about the HC stuff not being released anytime soon, I wouldn't be holding my breath on that.
So basically, the same reasons I might want to do it on my Nexus One. But it's not like the G-Tablet where I'm going to go from hardly acceptable to Notebook replacement is what I'm hearing.
True...as far as deleting apps I delete a ton. The browser, the games, and quick office is just a few. I backup my evo files and bring them over to the xoom (like games).
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bwcorvus said:
True...as far as deleting apps I delete a ton. The browser, the games, and quick office is just a few. I backup my evo files and bring them over to the xoom (like games).
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woa! you deleted the browser? i use opera mostly, but i would sooo not be comfortable doing that. just raised an eyebrow, i'm sure you have your reasons, just never heard of someone doing that. and i've been using/tweaking android for years now.
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woa! you deleted the browser? i use opera mostly, but i would sooo not be comfortable doing that. just raised an eyebrow, i'm sure you have your reasons, just never heard of someone doing that. and i've been using/tweaking android for years now.
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I use dolphin so i delete it from all my devices Don't need programs that i don't use taking up space i need.
I don't recommend deleting the stock browser, and here is why;
I have a rooted Droid running UD 7.0. It's set up with Sweeter Home, etc,just the way I like it.
When Google Gesture Search came out, I spent days trying to figure out why I couldn't get it to work. I found out by trial & error (and a LOT of restoring ROMs!) that it was because I had deleted the stock browser in favor of Dolphin.
-Prob'ly nuttin, but because of all the unknowns, I expect I'll keep the stock basics until I can do a systematic, controlled delete. Just my 2 sense, err, cents.
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I use dolphin so i delete it from all my devices Don't need programs that i don't use taking up space i need.
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dude, on the xoom, how much space do you need? the browser is what 8meg, max? i use other browsers too, just would never delete the stock browser, to each their own.
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dude, on the xoom, how much space do you need? the browser is what 8meg, max? i use other browsers too, just would never delete the stock browser, to each their own.
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I NEED IT ALL
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I NEED IT ALL
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Agreed.
Not to mention its worth it for the overclock alone. I have not noticed a change in battery life, and in terms of heat the dual core runs around 90 tops under heavy use.
These threads are useless, this Guy has a rooted device and knows what functions root already does. Why is he asking us what we will do with it when he already knows. Someone says removed crapware, then he gives an argument. Someone says overclock or custom then he gives another argument. C'mon man you already know what root brings, just determine if you need it or not because everyone's needs and wants are different.
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These threads are useless, this Guy has a rooted device and knows what functions root already does. Why is he asking us what we will do with it when he already knows. Someone says removed crapware, then he gives an argument. Someone says overclock or custom then he gives another argument. C'mon man you already know what root brings, just determine if you need it or not because everyone's needs and wants are different.
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Just to clarify, I have a couple of rooted Viewsonic G-Tablets. I haven't rooted my Xoom yet because:
A) I haven't got it yet (3/29 according to UPS)
B) It looks like it's a more complicated procedure at this point since there isn't native SD Card support
So I was trying to decide whether rooting was necessary (which it very much is on the G-Tablets), or just something desirable. And in the latter case, if there's something that would let me do that I would really miss.
At this point it sounds like there are three things I give up by not rooting, and the only one of those I don't have an acceptable workaround for is the overclocking. But I didn't want to hijack my own thread by starting a discussion on that, and so have been following the thread about OC instead.
FWIW...
Only reason I rooted my xoom was for the ability to play movies stutter free directly from my net shares...other than that no other reason...doesn't need to be overclocked and not really in to the custom rom game.
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Only reason I rooted my xoom was for the ability to play movies stutter free directly from my net shares...other than that no other reason...doesn't need to be overclocked and not really in to the custom rom game.
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What player are you using? I assume you needed the CIFS support for this?
yes Cifs from the market. Using rockplayer until vplayer releases support for the Xoom.
I had a Viewsonic on Saturday (returning it monday) and i tried all the custom roms, but the main issue is the terrible display, i found not only do you need hold it in front of you, it still wasnt perfect until you held it on a weird angle. Even for 339.00 it's not worth it. I liked the USB port on it but it's ready to go back to the store tommorow. The Xoom screen is much much better (I had them both next to each other all day trying to justify). Heck, i might bring both back and just keep my Nook Color.. Time will tell... Battery life with the Tiamat kernal was about 9 hours but i started it at 72%.
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Just to clarify, I have a couple of rooted Viewsonic G-Tablets. I haven't rooted my Xoom yet because:
A) I haven't got it yet (3/29 according to UPS)
B) It looks like it's a more complicated procedure at this point since there isn't native SD Card support
So I was trying to decide whether rooting was necessary (which it very much is on the G-Tablets), or just something desirable. And in the latter case, if there's something that would let me do that I would really miss.
At this point it sounds like there are three things I give up by not rooting, and the only one of those I don't have an acceptable workaround for is the overclocking. But I didn't want to hijack my own thread by starting a discussion on that, and so have been following the thread about OC instead.
FWIW...
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I am having the same thoughts myself.
I jailbroke all my iphones, I've rooted all my android devices, but, for some reason, I am not anxious to root the xoom
I think once sd card support comes, and, when there are MORE rom/kernel choices, it might be more desirable to do it.
for trouble free viewing of hd videos, just rip with handbrake, or a similar program and watch them with Vital player..
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I use dolphin so i delete it from all my devices Don't need programs that i don't use taking up space i need.
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U do know that is system space and you cant access it, right? thats not good and can cause the system to become unstable. Its space you will never see or be able to use so leave it. Get an app that hides apps from your tray and your problem solved ina safe manner..but hey, to each his own.
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I am having the same thoughts myself.
I jailbroke all my iphones, I've rooted all my android devices, but, for some reason, I am not anxious to root the xoom
I think once sd card support comes, and, when there are MORE rom/kernel choices, it might be more desirable to do it.
for trouble free viewing of hd videos, just rip with handbrake, or a similar program and watch them with Vital player..
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I couldnt agree more. I use handbrake for ripping also and I also don't see any current use in rooting a Xoom. Movies play crystal clear..Battery life is 9hours..
I just think some people are never satisfied..lol..like we're spoiled brats.
Im interested in the process but people are tweaking and reaching like this beast of a tablet isnt dual core and on the lastest version of android.
This is a Xoom and not a G1..lol...Not yelling..just made a point that we are never content until we brake some ****.
Google doesnt want the OEM using and skinning their **** anymore..atleast without that licensing/kiss our Google,rich ass Fee..so they probably wont release Honeycomb until 2012 I hear anyway.
So in theory u guys are holding your breath for a Dragons fart.
Ad blocking.
Think we will get an update for it? Maybe the upcoming gingerbread upgrade will have it
http://www.smartphoneenvy.com/andro...-allow-non-market-apps-on-android/#more-14514
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Who needs an update I have side loading.
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Who needs an update I have side loading.
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We here at XDA are a minority among Android users. And not everyone wants root.
Yeah but come on so many benefits to rooting why not you know??
True but in my case I have not rooted because of the process. I do not want to redo all my settings and data and such....I am sure I am not the only one
I totally would but, its kinda tough to do that with a mac
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Think we will get an update for it? Maybe the upcoming gingerbread upgrade will have it
http://www.smartphoneenvy.com/andro...-allow-non-market-apps-on-android/#more-14514
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I hope we do I have not rooted yet seems to complicated all these roms folks seem to have do a lot to get them to work right
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We here at XDA are a minority among Android users. And not everyone wants root.
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Well then good luck with that. Personally anyone who buys a phone that's missing a feature , especially one that's mostly used for nefarious purposes really should learn to read before buying. Then again one would think; all it takes to have root is said reading and therein lies the cusp.
Wouldn't be a problem if say the rooting process was like the hero or evo hell even my former samsung epic. No data loss
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Well then good luck with that. Personally anyone who buys a phone that's missing a feature , especially one that's mostly used for nefarious purposes really should learn to read before buying. Then again one would think; all it takes to have root is said reading and therein lies the cusp.
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Well then good luck with that. Personally anyone who buys a phone that's missing a feature , especially one that's mostly used for nefarious purposes really should learn to read before buying. Then again one would think; all it takes to have root is said reading and therein lies the cusp.
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This means don't buy any AT&T branded device. Hopefully sideloading happens with the Inspire. With hsupa now enabled and with this, I would lose more reason to root. Although getting rid of the bloat would be nice. I just wish we could root stock without having to downgrade.
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If your phone is Stock rooted, you can always edit the settings.db file and enable side loading feature. I did it and works like a charm. I didn't want to take a chance with a custom ROM, so I updated the stock ROM with the latest HTC update and the rooted it with gingerbreak. So far so good.
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True but in my case I have not rooted because of the process. I do not want to redo all my settings and data and such....I am sure I am not the only one
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try using titanium back up, that helps out alot, if u really don't wanna waste the 15min it takes to reset up ur phone, or just root it b4 setting it up, right after you buy it. sure, some rom updates will require a full wipe but its always for the better, there's just too many benefits to rooting not to want to do it. removing bloatware, ability to sideload, tethering, being able to run any of the many roms out there and the list goes on and on and on.
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there's just too many benefits to rooting not to want to do it. removing bloatware, ability to sideload, tethering, being able to run any of the many roms out there and the list goes on and on and on.
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+1. If you're on AT&T, and have an Android phone, you are going to be missing out on all your phone could be. Even if you hack the living daylights out of a stock ROM, it won't compare to any ROM floating around here. It's not nearly as hard/bad as people think.
CM7 Inspire 4G
Gingerbreak worked for you?
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If your phone is Stock rooted, you can always edit the settings.db file and enable side loading feature. I did it and works like a charm. I didn't want to take a chance with a custom ROM, so I updated the stock ROM with the latest HTC update and the rooted it with gingerbreak. So far so good.
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We here at XDA are a minority among Android users. And not everyone wants root.
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I have side loading without root. In fact, my Inspire is totally stock. And I've been able to side load apps from the beginning. That's one reason I don't understand this AT&T side loading business.
With sideload wonder machine?
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With sideload wonder machine?
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yea, you can sideload manually from the computer with out root, you just can't sideload directly from your devise. just make sure you have the latest drivers from HTC
Yea I currently use that
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yea, you can sideload manually from the computer with out root, you just can't sideload directly from your devise. just make sure you have the latest drivers from HTC
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I sideload right on my Inspire. I have the apks on my card and choose them with any file explorer and install them. I can even install apps that require root to function. Those particular apps will install, but they won't work without root. But all apps that don't require root to function install and work just fine.
It figures... right after rooting. I like root though. I'm a control freak and I like to determine what is on my phone. Deleted all of ATTs bloarware and just darn well like playing with ROMS. I was a Linux distro sampler too for a while before settling on Fedora.
I received my Transformer about 3 1/2 hours ago. So far I think it is just great!! I do have a question I bought a 16 gb micro sd card and there are no instructions I can find in manual and I have been unable to install the card. I push it in and it just pops right back out. Any and all info on this or tips in general about the device are greatly and warmly appreciated
You just keep pushing until it locks in unless your device is defective. I had to use my thumbnail to push it in. It's pretty standard.
Just push it all the way in. It should click into place and should be flush with the casing
Also. Make sure the "words-letters" on the micro SD card are facing the screen. Use your nail or maybe to push it in
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Just push it all the way in. It should click into place and should be flush with the casing
Also. Make sure the "words-letters" on the micro SD card are facing the screen. Use your nail or maybe to push it in
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Finally got it in. never have had to push that hard with sd cards in the past. So far I really really like this device. I have tried the Xoom and the Acer Iconia and they do not compare at all to what I have experienced so far with the TRansformer. Thought about rooting it but right after turning it on I got notification of an update so I let it do its thing ad it turned out it was for 3.01 not 3.1 I guess the 3.1 update is to be pushed out tomorrow, so I believe I will wait. Any one way easier than another as far as rooting and applying cwm recovery? I notice there are a couple posted in dev section. Thanks for all of the help.
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Finally got it in. never have had to push that hard with sd cards in the past. So far I really really like this device. I have tried the Xoom and the Acer Iconia and they do not compare at all to what I have experienced so far with the TRansformer. Thought about rooting it but right after turning it on I got notification of an update so I let it do its thing ad it turned out it was for 3.01 not 3.1 I guess the 3.1 update is to be pushed out tomorrow, so I believe I will wait. Any one way easier than another as far as rooting and applying cwm recovery? I notice there are a couple posted in dev section. Thanks for all of the help.
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Easiest way is downgrade to .9 and use BLOB_V5 following this guide http://androidroot.mobi/asus-eee-pad-transformer-tf101-root-cwm-recovery/
I suggest flashing 3.1 primeordial after rooting.
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Easiest way is downgrade to .9 and use BLOB_V5 following this guide http://androidroot.mobi/asus-eee-pad-transformer-tf101-root-cwm-recovery/
I suggest flashing 3.1 primeordial after rooting.
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ok thanks!! I am not sure what I will do yet. Going to wait a day or two to see if I will be keeping it. Can we not send text messages with this device? I thought with wifi it would be possible. Anyone know???
tenbeau said:
ok thanks!! I am not sure what I will do yet. Going to wait a day or two to see if I will be keeping it. Can we not send text messages with this device? I thought with wifi it would be possible. Anyone know???
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Sync SMS works in conjunction with dropbox.
market.android.com/details?id=com.d0lph1nk1ng.syncsms&feature=search_result
not sure if there are any free alternatives.
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Sync SMS works in conjunction with dropbox.
market.android.com/details?id=com.d0lph1nk1ng.syncsms&feature=search_result
not sure if there are any free alternatives.
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Thanks i will be getting that app and adding dropbox.
not to piggy back on this topic but....Does Google voice work with honeycomb?
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not to piggy back on this topic but....Does Google voice work with honeycomb?
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i miss this the most.
google voice has telephony dependencies which means in it's current state it will not work on a tablet without voice functions.... but the google team says they're working on it.
hmmm, i did some more looking and found a modded apk that might work. forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=537977&d=1299700727
edit 2: newer version: forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13545805&postcount=172
edit 3: i installed it and it works fine.
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What makes this ROM any better than the stock?
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What makes this ROM any better than the stock?
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Optimized SD card speed, BusyBox, CIFS, Tun (OpenVPN) preloaded and root access. You can use SetCPU to downclock when you have your screen off, saves more battery. Titanium Backup is also a good one that lets you backup just about anything and disable any preloaded software.
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Optimized SD card speed, BusyBox, CIFS, Tun (OpenVPN) preloaded and root access. You can use SetCPU to downclock when you have your screen off, saves more battery. Titanium Backup is also a good one that lets you backup just about anything and disable any preloaded software.
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To be honest, on phones I don't mind rooting / ROM'ing (if that's a term), but with my TF I'm way too protective. I'm beginning to realize that when you root / tinker things can definitely start to go wrong and often times bugs are introduced / performance can actually degrade over time at least. Then again, I don't have issues with battery life/speed at all or need any of the extra features provided by new kernels / ROMs. The only thing I do really miss is removing the bloat, but personally I'd rather know that the OS is coming directly from ASUS/Google and hasn't been toyed with at all
I know most people, especially on these forums will disagree though
Probably kind of a "n00b" question, but I can't find a real complete answer. I am seriously considering selling my Tab 7.7 and getting the new Nexus 7. I have the 6810 version. How do you make a back-up of all my Apps(Games mostly) and game saves so they can be transferred to a new tablet? Is it even possible?
Thanks for your time,
Rob
you can backup using titanium backup if your device are root.
Thanks edan,
Is rooting the only why? And will the New tablet need to be rooted as well to load the backup to?
Rob
if you want to use titanium backup. both device need to be root.
there are others backup apps without root. but i havent use any at all since i'm sticking with titanium and all my device are root. so i cant recommend on without root backup apps.
Yeah, probably say that Titanium Backup (Pro) is the most useful app I've ever bought. Possibly first app I bought, and still using to this day. Very useful and easy when transferring data between ROMs.
Sorry, can't comment on non-rooted backup apps, because they don't compare....
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Thanks for the info, edan. I would like to not have to root if at all possible, so hopefully someone else will recommend some apps.
Rob
There is also helium https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
It can backup without root to a pc
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Thanks for the info everyone! I know you can't sell on this forum but how hard do you think it will be to sell my Tab? About how much you think I could get for it?
Rob
might be half than what you paid to get it... the device still got value...
LonestarROB said:
Thanks for the info everyone! I know you can't sell on this forum but how hard do you think it will be to sell my Tab? About how much you think I could get for it?
Rob
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Check out Swappa. Lots of devices there and might give you an idea of price.
Ok, if anyone's going to recommend rooting, just move on to another thread please. I can't root, I like my Final Fantasy games and want to actually be able to play them. Anyway, I got NVIDIA's dev drivers for my PC, and on the PC side the application is showing Helium as being activated on the tablet, but the tablet side doesn't seem to agree. Anyone else had any luck with it? Any alternatives that DON'T require root?
An other alternative? An open mind without no-sense fears.
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An other alternative? An open mind without no-sense fears.
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Final Fantasy Dimensions and Final Fantasy 6 do not work on rooted devices. Not even if you use root cloak. I already tried it. I already said if you're going to say "root anyway" to just move on instead of trolling. If you want to be insulting, I have no problem using the report button.
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Final Fantasy Dimensions and Final Fantasy 6 do not work on rooted devices. Not even if you use root cloak. I already tried it. I already said if you're going to say "root anyway" to just move on instead of trolling. If you want to be insulting, I have no problem using the report button.
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I never said "root".
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What is your goal? Syncing, backing up regularly or a one time transfer of app data to the shield?
Regular backups at this point. I rooted it before to get the files synced over but I had to unroot so those games would work, couldn't find any workable countermeasures. Annoying but such is life
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Only solution I could offer is to set up a custom recovery and backup through there instead. Have you contact helium's support to see if they have any ideas?
Yeah, waiting to hear back. Tried from my Win8 laptop and my Win7 desktop, same issue, hopefully it's something they can fix. I was hoping there were some other options out there, or maybe some other option for spoofing Squaresoft's root detection, but if there isn't, then there isn't. Being able to root would make life SO much easier.