Have my Xoom WiFi pre-ordered and delivery is supposed to be next week. I am coming from a Viewsonic G-Tablet (will still have two of them, just I won't be using) where the ONLY way to make use of them is by rooting and installing a third-party ROM.
With the Xoom, it seems like rooting it is more of an intellectual exercise than something that would make a big difference in day to day use. Is there something I'm missing?
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Have my Xoom WiFi pre-ordered and delivery is supposed to be next week. I am coming from a Viewsonic G-Tablet (will still have two of them, just I won't be using) where the ONLY way to make use of them is by rooting and installing a third-party ROM.
With the Xoom, it seems like rooting it is more of an intellectual exercise than something that would make a big difference in day to day use. Is there something I'm missing?
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1) Delete the crap you don't want
2) Overclock
3) Titanium backup
4) Usb Hosting
5) One day custom roms
bwcorvus said:
1) Delete the crap you don't want
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Anything in particular you are thinking of?
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Unless that helps video playback, I doubt I want to run my battery down or possibly overheat the tablet.
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I use that on my G-Tablet because I can't be sure the market will be stable from one refresh to the next. But is there a real need for it on the Xoom?
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Nothing that ES File Manager and a Network drive won't take care of, but point taken
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Given Google's announcement about the HC stuff not being released anytime soon, I wouldn't be holding my breath on that.
So basically, the same reasons I might want to do it on my Nexus One. But it's not like the G-Tablet where I'm going to go from hardly acceptable to Notebook replacement is what I'm hearing.
True...as far as deleting apps I delete a ton. The browser, the games, and quick office is just a few. I backup my evo files and bring them over to the xoom (like games).
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bwcorvus said:
True...as far as deleting apps I delete a ton. The browser, the games, and quick office is just a few. I backup my evo files and bring them over to the xoom (like games).
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woa! you deleted the browser? i use opera mostly, but i would sooo not be comfortable doing that. just raised an eyebrow, i'm sure you have your reasons, just never heard of someone doing that. and i've been using/tweaking android for years now.
diaa08 said:
woa! you deleted the browser? i use opera mostly, but i would sooo not be comfortable doing that. just raised an eyebrow, i'm sure you have your reasons, just never heard of someone doing that. and i've been using/tweaking android for years now.
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I use dolphin so i delete it from all my devices Don't need programs that i don't use taking up space i need.
I don't recommend deleting the stock browser, and here is why;
I have a rooted Droid running UD 7.0. It's set up with Sweeter Home, etc,just the way I like it.
When Google Gesture Search came out, I spent days trying to figure out why I couldn't get it to work. I found out by trial & error (and a LOT of restoring ROMs!) that it was because I had deleted the stock browser in favor of Dolphin.
-Prob'ly nuttin, but because of all the unknowns, I expect I'll keep the stock basics until I can do a systematic, controlled delete. Just my 2 sense, err, cents.
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I use dolphin so i delete it from all my devices Don't need programs that i don't use taking up space i need.
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dude, on the xoom, how much space do you need? the browser is what 8meg, max? i use other browsers too, just would never delete the stock browser, to each their own.
diaa08 said:
dude, on the xoom, how much space do you need? the browser is what 8meg, max? i use other browsers too, just would never delete the stock browser, to each their own.
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I NEED IT ALL
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I NEED IT ALL
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Agreed.
Not to mention its worth it for the overclock alone. I have not noticed a change in battery life, and in terms of heat the dual core runs around 90 tops under heavy use.
These threads are useless, this Guy has a rooted device and knows what functions root already does. Why is he asking us what we will do with it when he already knows. Someone says removed crapware, then he gives an argument. Someone says overclock or custom then he gives another argument. C'mon man you already know what root brings, just determine if you need it or not because everyone's needs and wants are different.
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These threads are useless, this Guy has a rooted device and knows what functions root already does. Why is he asking us what we will do with it when he already knows. Someone says removed crapware, then he gives an argument. Someone says overclock or custom then he gives another argument. C'mon man you already know what root brings, just determine if you need it or not because everyone's needs and wants are different.
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Just to clarify, I have a couple of rooted Viewsonic G-Tablets. I haven't rooted my Xoom yet because:
A) I haven't got it yet (3/29 according to UPS)
B) It looks like it's a more complicated procedure at this point since there isn't native SD Card support
So I was trying to decide whether rooting was necessary (which it very much is on the G-Tablets), or just something desirable. And in the latter case, if there's something that would let me do that I would really miss.
At this point it sounds like there are three things I give up by not rooting, and the only one of those I don't have an acceptable workaround for is the overclocking. But I didn't want to hijack my own thread by starting a discussion on that, and so have been following the thread about OC instead.
FWIW...
Only reason I rooted my xoom was for the ability to play movies stutter free directly from my net shares...other than that no other reason...doesn't need to be overclocked and not really in to the custom rom game.
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Only reason I rooted my xoom was for the ability to play movies stutter free directly from my net shares...other than that no other reason...doesn't need to be overclocked and not really in to the custom rom game.
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What player are you using? I assume you needed the CIFS support for this?
yes Cifs from the market. Using rockplayer until vplayer releases support for the Xoom.
I had a Viewsonic on Saturday (returning it monday) and i tried all the custom roms, but the main issue is the terrible display, i found not only do you need hold it in front of you, it still wasnt perfect until you held it on a weird angle. Even for 339.00 it's not worth it. I liked the USB port on it but it's ready to go back to the store tommorow. The Xoom screen is much much better (I had them both next to each other all day trying to justify). Heck, i might bring both back and just keep my Nook Color.. Time will tell... Battery life with the Tiamat kernal was about 9 hours but i started it at 72%.
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Just to clarify, I have a couple of rooted Viewsonic G-Tablets. I haven't rooted my Xoom yet because:
A) I haven't got it yet (3/29 according to UPS)
B) It looks like it's a more complicated procedure at this point since there isn't native SD Card support
So I was trying to decide whether rooting was necessary (which it very much is on the G-Tablets), or just something desirable. And in the latter case, if there's something that would let me do that I would really miss.
At this point it sounds like there are three things I give up by not rooting, and the only one of those I don't have an acceptable workaround for is the overclocking. But I didn't want to hijack my own thread by starting a discussion on that, and so have been following the thread about OC instead.
FWIW...
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I am having the same thoughts myself.
I jailbroke all my iphones, I've rooted all my android devices, but, for some reason, I am not anxious to root the xoom
I think once sd card support comes, and, when there are MORE rom/kernel choices, it might be more desirable to do it.
for trouble free viewing of hd videos, just rip with handbrake, or a similar program and watch them with Vital player..
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I use dolphin so i delete it from all my devices Don't need programs that i don't use taking up space i need.
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U do know that is system space and you cant access it, right? thats not good and can cause the system to become unstable. Its space you will never see or be able to use so leave it. Get an app that hides apps from your tray and your problem solved ina safe manner..but hey, to each his own.
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I am having the same thoughts myself.
I jailbroke all my iphones, I've rooted all my android devices, but, for some reason, I am not anxious to root the xoom
I think once sd card support comes, and, when there are MORE rom/kernel choices, it might be more desirable to do it.
for trouble free viewing of hd videos, just rip with handbrake, or a similar program and watch them with Vital player..
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I couldnt agree more. I use handbrake for ripping also and I also don't see any current use in rooting a Xoom. Movies play crystal clear..Battery life is 9hours..
I just think some people are never satisfied..lol..like we're spoiled brats.
Im interested in the process but people are tweaking and reaching like this beast of a tablet isnt dual core and on the lastest version of android.
This is a Xoom and not a G1..lol...Not yelling..just made a point that we are never content until we brake some ****.
Google doesnt want the OEM using and skinning their **** anymore..atleast without that licensing/kiss our Google,rich ass Fee..so they probably wont release Honeycomb until 2012 I hear anyway.
So in theory u guys are holding your breath for a Dragons fart.
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About to buy one and I just wanna know
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Pure vanilla Android.
There's a bunch of stuff preinstalled on it, but it's all Google stuff; I don't think there's any third-party apps.
It's not plain android, there's a bunch of Google bloatware.
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It's not plain android, there's a bunch of Google bloatware.
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I'm curious as to what you consider Google bloatware, because the Nexus S is about as plain as you can get. Most of the time bloatware is stuff added by OEMs, such as the preinstalled demo games on the MT4G. Mind elaborating?
I can't speak for JC, but in my mind, anything that comes preinstalled on a device which I neither want nor need is bloatware. This, of course, makes the entire concept subjective, but in general with things like Android, I think less is more, since you can download nearly all of these things from the Market anyway. The consumer-side justification of "bloatware" (revenue for the provider, of course, being the primary, producer-side justification) is to present the user with access to a service they might otherwise not know to look for. ("Oh, hey, my phone can play TV/can display YouTube/has internet radio/whatever!"). For most of us though, particularly anyone savvy enough to be on XDA in the first place, most of it ends up falling into one of three categories:
-Don't care about
-Use a different app for
-Would have downloaded if it wasn't included.
In any case, I've observed that what most people have the biggest issue with isn't that stuff may come preinstalled on their phone, it's that you can't get rid of it, and if you do, you may well open yourself to a world of trouble should you ever wish to install an OTA update.
I would consider it plain android, as the "bloatware" on it is really only google apps, which come with all android phones. It doesn't have bloatware from a third party though like some of the other android phones. Either way, bloatware can be removed off any rooted phone with titanium backup
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I can't speak for JC, but in my mind, anything that comes preinstalled on a device which I neither want nor need is bloatware. This, of course, makes the entire concept subjective, but in general with things like Android, I think less is more, since you can download nearly all of these things from the Market anyway. The consumer-side justification of "bloatware" (revenue for the provider, of course, being the primary, producer-side justification) is to present the user with access to a service they might otherwise not know to look for. ("Oh, hey, my phone can play TV/can display YouTube/has internet radio/whatever!"). For most of us though, particularly anyone savvy enough to be on XDA in the first place, most of it ends up falling into one of three categories:
-Don't care about
-Use a different app for
-Would have downloaded if it wasn't included.
In any case, I've observed that what most people have the biggest issue with isn't that stuff may come preinstalled on their phone, it's that you can't get rid of it, and if you do, you may well open yourself to a world of trouble should you ever wish to install an OTA update.
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Fair enough points.
Unfortunately, we still run into that last issue even on the Nexus S. Folks were unable to update via the stock 2.3.1 OTA if they had modified system files, such replacing the stock Mms.apk or Gmail.apk with the black/custom ones from the Themes & Apps section or deleting any of their relevant .odexs. Even placing the missing files back on the system partition didn't seem to work, at least for me. It was a very curious update.
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Fair enough points.
Unfortunately, we still run into that last issue even on the Nexus S. Folks were unable to update via the stock 2.3.1 OTA if they had modified system files, such replacing the stock Mms.apk or Gmail.apk with the black/custom ones from the Themes & Apps section or deleting any of their relevant .odexs. Even placing the missing files back on the system partition didn't seem to work, at least for me. It was a very curious update.
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Yeah, I soft-bricked my Vibrant trying to grab T-Mobile's OTA after I took it upon myself to delete all the extraneous crapware that came with it. They can be very touchy indeed. It's a steep learning curve for newbies. x_x
Next question,how is t mobiles 4G .I live in knox tn. Anyone know?
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So it doesn't have the useless Amazon mp3 app anymore like the nexus one?
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Next question,how is t mobiles 4G .I live in knox tn. Anyone know?
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No HSPA+ (it's not 4G!) on the Nexus S. Don't ask me why, it boggles my mind too.
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So it doesn't have the useless Amazon mp3 app anymore like the nexus one?
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No Amazon MP3 app installed. Just made me look at my app drawer to confirm, lol.
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So it doesn't have the useless Amazon mp3 app anymore like the nexus one?
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Nope, they put google earth in its place.
There is also that office app that is NOT a google product...so yea, there is a bit of bloat, but pretty much it is vanilla.
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No HSPA+ (it's not 4G!) on the Nexus S. Don't ask me why, it boggles my mind too.
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True, but it does still support up to 7.2Mbps down which you'll only get in a t-mobile 4g area.
I was just in Orlando and i was getting around 5-6Mbps on my N1 and in a Nexus S i was testing at best buy and it was pretty damn fast. puts my DSL connection at home to shame.
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There is also that office app that is NOT a google product...so yea, there is a bit of bloat, but pretty much it is vanilla.
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I don't think Google has an office app for Android. Every device has launched with some kind of partnered 3rd party, either ThinkFree, or Quickoffice. At least, I think those are the two they've used.
If they didn't, you wouldn't be able to read any kind of text document on your phone and that's just kind of a silly thing to not be able to do, imo.
EDIT: And on that note, Google should probably make a office app! lol
Who really cares whats installed or not, EVERYTHING can be uninstalled.
after using ThinkFREE for a while on the Galaxy S, i can say it's really good
way better than the Docs To Go and/or QuickOffice which i'm using on the XT720
but truth is... you don't need any of those with Google Office online, it's so much easier to keep things and work with documents using Google Office Online
Has anyone heard any new news on the possibility of a Netflix app that streams video on Android? I don't know about you guys but I really really want it! Are there still issues with security and whatnot?
Just curious if anyone has heard anything. They need to get this done!
Still just hearing more about security crap..
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Theres an apk out there, streaming doesn't work tho.
Thunderbolt «» das BAMF Remix
corenojoe said:
Has anyone heard any new news on the possibility of a Netflix app that streams video on Android? I don't know about you guys but I really really want it! Are there still issues with security and whatnot?
Just curious if anyone has heard anything. They need to get this done!
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Yup, Can't wait for this.
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Yup, Can't wait for this.
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Ya, started watching Scrubs from the beginning last night and it'd be awesome if I could pick up where I left off and watch it on breaks and lunch on my phone while I'm at work. Could kill like a season a day lol
I'm assuming this will be a super noob question as no one ever asks but going to ask anyway.
Why is the Hulu fix/hack/edit any diff than this? So long as we can fool a browser into think it's a full desktop, why couldn't we stream through that instead of depending on an app to do it? #flamejacketon
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I'm assuming this will be a super noob question as no one ever asks but going to ask anyway.
Why is the Hulu fix/hack/edit any diff than this? So long as we can fool a browser into think it's a full desktop, why couldn't we stream through that instead of depending on an app to do it? #flamejacketon
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I can't give a definite answer but I would assume that any content would run smoother/better through the app then a hacked browser.
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IIRC, I believe it's because Netflix streams over the web via Silverlight not Flash. It's easy to hack flash and fool it, but Silverlight is a different story.
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this.
Besides, this same thread has been posted countless times, a simple search would've shown that. We are waiting for it to be released by Netflix, as our processor has the necessary security needed for the app to be released.
I do believe though, that we will have to wait until the LG Revolution is released to the public before we can get the app, as I suspect LG and Netflix have an exclusivity deal going, so LG can sell some phones.
Then again, I may be and have been wrong.
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this.
Besides, this same thread has been posted countless times, a simple search would've shown that. We are waiting for it to be released by Netflix, as our processor has the necessary security needed for the app to be released.
I do believe though, that we will have to wait until the LG Revolution is released to the public before we can get the app, as I suspect LG and Netflix have an exclusivity deal going, so LG can sell some phones.
Then again, I may be and have been wrong.
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Come on LG!
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IIRC, I believe it's because Netflix streams over the web via Silverlight not Flash. It's easy to hack flash and fool it, but Silverlight is a different story.
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I had noticed the last flick I streamed on my laptop used Silverlight, (as far as I knew that was new) but definitely makes sense. Flash is hackable, SL is not.. Got it, thanks.
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I had noticed the last flick I streamed on my laptop used Silverlight, (as far as I knew that was new) but definitely makes sense. Flash is hackable, SL is not.. Got it, thanks.
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Netflix on android won't be using silverlight though. It could use Moonlight http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight, but support for that on linux is far worse than flash and would probably be even more of a battery killer, so I'm guessing they will port whatever they use for iOS on the iphone/ipad to android.
There's no way the iphone version of netflix (which has been out for a while) uses silverlight (jobs would never allow that), so I am guessing they will probably just use the same libraries for android that they have for iOS and create a wrapper around that with java to create an executable.
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I had noticed the last flick I streamed on my laptop used Silverlight, (as far as I knew that was new) but definitely makes sense. Flash is hackable, SL is not.. Got it, thanks.
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Netflix has always used silverlight, at least as far as I have known. And yareally
is probably right about how they are going to go about it.
The main reason why Winmo 7 had/has so fast netflix is because of silverlight and the native ability (I believe) for it to run on winmo.
I received my Transformer about 3 1/2 hours ago. So far I think it is just great!! I do have a question I bought a 16 gb micro sd card and there are no instructions I can find in manual and I have been unable to install the card. I push it in and it just pops right back out. Any and all info on this or tips in general about the device are greatly and warmly appreciated
You just keep pushing until it locks in unless your device is defective. I had to use my thumbnail to push it in. It's pretty standard.
Just push it all the way in. It should click into place and should be flush with the casing
Also. Make sure the "words-letters" on the micro SD card are facing the screen. Use your nail or maybe to push it in
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Just push it all the way in. It should click into place and should be flush with the casing
Also. Make sure the "words-letters" on the micro SD card are facing the screen. Use your nail or maybe to push it in
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Finally got it in. never have had to push that hard with sd cards in the past. So far I really really like this device. I have tried the Xoom and the Acer Iconia and they do not compare at all to what I have experienced so far with the TRansformer. Thought about rooting it but right after turning it on I got notification of an update so I let it do its thing ad it turned out it was for 3.01 not 3.1 I guess the 3.1 update is to be pushed out tomorrow, so I believe I will wait. Any one way easier than another as far as rooting and applying cwm recovery? I notice there are a couple posted in dev section. Thanks for all of the help.
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Finally got it in. never have had to push that hard with sd cards in the past. So far I really really like this device. I have tried the Xoom and the Acer Iconia and they do not compare at all to what I have experienced so far with the TRansformer. Thought about rooting it but right after turning it on I got notification of an update so I let it do its thing ad it turned out it was for 3.01 not 3.1 I guess the 3.1 update is to be pushed out tomorrow, so I believe I will wait. Any one way easier than another as far as rooting and applying cwm recovery? I notice there are a couple posted in dev section. Thanks for all of the help.
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Easiest way is downgrade to .9 and use BLOB_V5 following this guide http://androidroot.mobi/asus-eee-pad-transformer-tf101-root-cwm-recovery/
I suggest flashing 3.1 primeordial after rooting.
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Easiest way is downgrade to .9 and use BLOB_V5 following this guide http://androidroot.mobi/asus-eee-pad-transformer-tf101-root-cwm-recovery/
I suggest flashing 3.1 primeordial after rooting.
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ok thanks!! I am not sure what I will do yet. Going to wait a day or two to see if I will be keeping it. Can we not send text messages with this device? I thought with wifi it would be possible. Anyone know???
tenbeau said:
ok thanks!! I am not sure what I will do yet. Going to wait a day or two to see if I will be keeping it. Can we not send text messages with this device? I thought with wifi it would be possible. Anyone know???
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Sync SMS works in conjunction with dropbox.
market.android.com/details?id=com.d0lph1nk1ng.syncsms&feature=search_result
not sure if there are any free alternatives.
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Sync SMS works in conjunction with dropbox.
market.android.com/details?id=com.d0lph1nk1ng.syncsms&feature=search_result
not sure if there are any free alternatives.
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Thanks i will be getting that app and adding dropbox.
not to piggy back on this topic but....Does Google voice work with honeycomb?
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not to piggy back on this topic but....Does Google voice work with honeycomb?
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i miss this the most.
google voice has telephony dependencies which means in it's current state it will not work on a tablet without voice functions.... but the google team says they're working on it.
hmmm, i did some more looking and found a modded apk that might work. forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=537977&d=1299700727
edit 2: newer version: forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13545805&postcount=172
edit 3: i installed it and it works fine.
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I suggest flashing 3.1 primeordial after rooting.
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What makes this ROM any better than the stock?
Digiguest said:
What makes this ROM any better than the stock?
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Optimized SD card speed, BusyBox, CIFS, Tun (OpenVPN) preloaded and root access. You can use SetCPU to downclock when you have your screen off, saves more battery. Titanium Backup is also a good one that lets you backup just about anything and disable any preloaded software.
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Optimized SD card speed, BusyBox, CIFS, Tun (OpenVPN) preloaded and root access. You can use SetCPU to downclock when you have your screen off, saves more battery. Titanium Backup is also a good one that lets you backup just about anything and disable any preloaded software.
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To be honest, on phones I don't mind rooting / ROM'ing (if that's a term), but with my TF I'm way too protective. I'm beginning to realize that when you root / tinker things can definitely start to go wrong and often times bugs are introduced / performance can actually degrade over time at least. Then again, I don't have issues with battery life/speed at all or need any of the extra features provided by new kernels / ROMs. The only thing I do really miss is removing the bloat, but personally I'd rather know that the OS is coming directly from ASUS/Google and hasn't been toyed with at all
I know most people, especially on these forums will disagree though
Did think it was that easy.... had the tablet for 6 months and didn't bother unlocking or rooting cause it looked annoying, can't believe I didn't do it earlier now. I wouldn't say its a completely new tab experience, but I can say Im not thinking about getting s nexus 10 anymore. So if you feel your infinity isnt on par... unlock and root. It's worth it.
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Did think it was that easy.... had the tablet for 6 months and didn't bother unlocking or rooting cause it looked annoying, can't believe I didn't do it earlier now. I wouldn't say its a completely new tab experience, but I can say Im not thinking about getting s nexus 10 anymore. So if you feel your infinity isnt on par... unlock and root. It's worth it.
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I couldn't agree more. Actually I was in the same position and state of mind... You know, all about "what about my warranty etc.".
By the end, I got pissed not using the TF700 just because it was laggy and not as expected. The basic thought was just that I bought a device for 700€, I just need to use it at it's utmost, or at least as I would like to use it.
I took the risk to root, on CM10.1 Nightly. Well, that was quite fast and now it's a new tablet. As Jojo said it definitively worth the switch to a custom rom.
For those who are afraid, as I was, please note that "custom rom" can no more be related to "unstable and testing". There is really reliables and stables release from highly qualified programmers (CM10,AOKP/AOSP, CROMI....).
Unless you only use the tablette to listen music without touching I really recommend to jump on a CRom.
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Did think it was that easy.... had the tablet for 6 months and didn't bother unlocking or rooting cause it looked annoying, can't believe I didn't do it earlier now. I wouldn't say its a completely new tab experience, but I can say Im not thinking about getting s nexus 10 anymore. So if you feel your infinity isnt on par... unlock and root. It's worth it.
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Anyone who thinks that the nexus 10 is a good replacement for the infinity is nuts. I work in a tech store and have access to the nexus 10 and the ipad 4 (or ipad retina), the infinity dances circles around them and is way more productive. The infinity can replace laptops, unless you need high end software to edit videos, pictures, or data (stats software). The development on the infinity also rivals any other device out there. If you install CROMI you will understand, it has better support and updates than any other ROM out there. It also squashes them in terms of performance. At this point no software on my infinty is stock other than apps, and i couldnt be happier. Not many devices have a custom bootloader, kernel, governors, scheduler, ROM, theme, and UI mods that work to create a comprehensive and kickass system.
Agreed
I am with you, I only had my tablet for a month or two before not being able to stand it. But once I put CleanRom on it, it flies. Makes it worth it all the more, and those who have not done it yet, are missing out. However, before doing anything make sure you spend lots and lots of time looking up on how to do so!!!
Tylor
Tylorw1 said:
I am with you, I only had my tablet for a month or two before not being able to stand it. But once I put CleanRom on it, it flies. Makes it worth it all the more, and those who have not done it yet, are missing out. However, before doing anything make sure you spend lots and lots of time looking up on how to do so!!!
Tylor
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Agreed.
I lasted 6 weeks and got pissed off with the constant native browser crashes..several sites that I frequent have Flash and only the native browser supports it properly. Didn't care about the warranty really, it is only for a year and it looks like I've got a decent device.
After I got over the "scared to break something", it was quite easy. Now just to keep up with the CROMI updates. It doesn't take long to patch at least.
Splitz300 said:
Agreed.
I lasted 6 weeks and got pissed off with the constant native browser crashes..several sites that I frequent have Flash and only the native browser supports it properly. Didn't care about the warranty really, it is only for a year and it looks like I've got a decent device.
After I got over the "scared to break something", it was quite easy. Now just to keep up with the CROMI updates. It doesn't take long to patch at least.
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Lol... Yeah you'll get used to my updates
That'll be it for another week hopefully
sbdags said:
Lol... Yeah you'll get used to my updates
That'll be it for another week hopefully
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Apparently!
I noticed that you went from 3.4.2 to 3.4.4 this afternoon!
Great work!
Splitz300 said:
Apparently!
I noticed that you went from 3.4.2 to 3.4.4 this afternoon!
Great work!
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Splitz300 said:
Agreed.
I lasted 6 weeks and got pissed off with the constant native browser crashes..several sites that I frequent have Flash and only the native browser supports it properly. Didn't care about the warranty really, it is only for a year and it looks like I've got a decent device.
After I got over the "scared to break something", it was quite easy. Now just to keep up with the CROMI updates. It doesn't take long to patch at least.
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So I am in the same boat, 99% ready to root for the same reasons.....Can I ask which method/instructions you ended up using?
CJ
p.s. I am running JB 4.1.1 - 10.4.4.25-20121228
ccjbird said:
So I am in the same boat, 99% ready to root for the same reasons.....Can I ask which method/instructions you ended up using?
CJ
p.s. I am running JB 4.1.1 - 10.4.4.25-20121228
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This thread has it all Also, refer to Post 2 in that same thread for additional stuff.
I think by the time I gathered everything, read as much as possible, it took about 2 hours from start to finish.
There's also a youTube video in that thread. The software that he used was much easier in my opinion.
Splitz300 said:
several sites that I frequent have Flash and only the native browser supports it properly.
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If you're having Flash issues, try Boat Browser. Flash works perfectly. It's nice to watch a CNN stream nice and smooth in Flash on this big screen.
I don't want to get into a whole debate about root but I am coming from the G3 and previously had the G2. I had both of these rooted with excellent Cloudy stock Roms.
It is my goal to live without root on this phone. It seems to run great, has enough ram and battery to handle lost background apps with little to almost zero lag. I am just kinda tired of the TWRP, ROOT, TB, Flashing lifestyle... Lol. Been doin it since the HD2.
However I did not discover until yesterday while using the phone unrooted that Dual Window is only limited to a handful of apps. I guess with the rooted Roms the mod for other apps was already in place so I never noticed. I honestly gotta say that's pretty terrible. I don't understand the thought process behind why LG would limit such a strong multitasking feature. I personally used it to balance my checkbook beside my bank app. SUPER EASY! Now this kind of sucks. It might be enough to make me root it. I am trying the ad block thing I found in another post but this dual window thing is a FAIL without root IMHO.
Otherwise this is a bad ass phone. I am loving it.
jcnbama said:
I don't want to get into a whole debate about root but I am coming from the G3 and previously had the G2. I had both of these rooted with excellent Cloudy stock Roms.
It is my goal to live without root on this phone. It seems to run great, has enough ram and battery to handle lost background apps with little to almost zero lag. I am just kinda tired of the TWRP, ROOT, TB, Flashing lifestyle... Lol. Been doin it since the HD2.
However I did not discover until yesterday while using the phone unrooted that Dual Window is only limited to a handful of apps. I guess with the rooted Roms the mod for other apps was already in place so I never noticed. I honestly gotta say that's pretty terrible. I don't understand the thought process behind why LG would limit such a strong multitasking feature. I personally used it to balance my checkbook beside my bank app. SUPER EASY! Now this kind of sucks. It might be enough to make me root it. I am trying the ad block thing I found in another post but this dual window thing is a FAIL without root IMHO.
Otherwise this is a bad ass phone. I am loving it.
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There is always that TINY reason to root lol
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mgbotoe said:
There is always that TINY reason to root lol
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Yep
Yep... And this is the first phone I tried to go without Titanium Backup... How do people live like this?!?! Lol... I guess we'll see.... What I'd like to see is the manufacturers just do stuff like that on their own.....
Samsung, the creators of multi-window, have a restrictive list too. I never bypassed it though. Kind of annoying. They've had it for years too.
But...umm..you can add any app you want to dual window without root
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3pw4oq/how_to_add_dual_window_support_to_any_app_no_root/
Bootup said:
But...umm..you can add any app you want to dual window without root
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3pw4oq/how_to_add_dual_window_support_to_any_app_no_root/
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Might try once I get home what app you suggest?
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Bootup said:
But...umm..you can add any app you want to dual window without root
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3pw4oq/how_to_add_dual_window_support_to_any_app_no_root/
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Hooooly crap that's alot of work to have something as simple as dual window support. What happens when the app updates? Does that change anything?
Again this just goes back to manufacturers just taking care of their customer base. This should be a non-issue.... Maybe I'll fool around with this at some point but honestly just rooting will probably be easier and provide more overall benefits once it is accomplished (which I would imagine would be sooner rather than later.) I'm always willing to donate for developers hard work. Definitely worth it.
Thanks for sharing this friend!
It's not as bad as it looks tbh. Once you become familiar it's a fairly quick process.
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Bootup said:
But...umm..you can add any app you want to dual window without root
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3pw4oq/how_to_add_dual_window_support_to_any_app_no_root/
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I've used this on a few apps and it works great. Took a little bit of time to figure it out the first app (I have zero experience with this type of thing), but after that it went pretty quick.
I just verified it with some apps I edited for my G3 that it works fine on the fancy new V10.
Triavius said:
I've used this on a few apps and it works great. Took a little bit of time to figure it out the first app (I have zero experience with this type of thing), but after that it went pretty quick.
I just verified it with some apps I edited for my G3 that it works fine on the fancy new V10.
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Maybe I will give it a try. It seems intimidating but perhaps it's not. What happens if an app updates via the Play store? Does it overwrite your changes?
jcnbama said:
Maybe I will give it a try. It seems intimidating but perhaps it's not. What happens if an app updates via the Play store? Does it overwrite your changes?
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Hah, I've got no idea honestly. That reddit thread that was posted isn't too old; I haven't had any of the apps I messed with updated yet.
Hi,everybody .I try to sign FM Cube to dual window and it is work great but when I try to do the same with Waze it show me error when I try to build apk back.
Can anybody help me with that ? And also I did a Google Map but can not install on my phone because the original one is a system app.