Did think it was that easy.... had the tablet for 6 months and didn't bother unlocking or rooting cause it looked annoying, can't believe I didn't do it earlier now. I wouldn't say its a completely new tab experience, but I can say Im not thinking about getting s nexus 10 anymore. So if you feel your infinity isnt on par... unlock and root. It's worth it.
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Did think it was that easy.... had the tablet for 6 months and didn't bother unlocking or rooting cause it looked annoying, can't believe I didn't do it earlier now. I wouldn't say its a completely new tab experience, but I can say Im not thinking about getting s nexus 10 anymore. So if you feel your infinity isnt on par... unlock and root. It's worth it.
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I couldn't agree more. Actually I was in the same position and state of mind... You know, all about "what about my warranty etc.".
By the end, I got pissed not using the TF700 just because it was laggy and not as expected. The basic thought was just that I bought a device for 700€, I just need to use it at it's utmost, or at least as I would like to use it.
I took the risk to root, on CM10.1 Nightly. Well, that was quite fast and now it's a new tablet. As Jojo said it definitively worth the switch to a custom rom.
For those who are afraid, as I was, please note that "custom rom" can no more be related to "unstable and testing". There is really reliables and stables release from highly qualified programmers (CM10,AOKP/AOSP, CROMI....).
Unless you only use the tablette to listen music without touching I really recommend to jump on a CRom.
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Did think it was that easy.... had the tablet for 6 months and didn't bother unlocking or rooting cause it looked annoying, can't believe I didn't do it earlier now. I wouldn't say its a completely new tab experience, but I can say Im not thinking about getting s nexus 10 anymore. So if you feel your infinity isnt on par... unlock and root. It's worth it.
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Anyone who thinks that the nexus 10 is a good replacement for the infinity is nuts. I work in a tech store and have access to the nexus 10 and the ipad 4 (or ipad retina), the infinity dances circles around them and is way more productive. The infinity can replace laptops, unless you need high end software to edit videos, pictures, or data (stats software). The development on the infinity also rivals any other device out there. If you install CROMI you will understand, it has better support and updates than any other ROM out there. It also squashes them in terms of performance. At this point no software on my infinty is stock other than apps, and i couldnt be happier. Not many devices have a custom bootloader, kernel, governors, scheduler, ROM, theme, and UI mods that work to create a comprehensive and kickass system.
Agreed
I am with you, I only had my tablet for a month or two before not being able to stand it. But once I put CleanRom on it, it flies. Makes it worth it all the more, and those who have not done it yet, are missing out. However, before doing anything make sure you spend lots and lots of time looking up on how to do so!!!
Tylor
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I am with you, I only had my tablet for a month or two before not being able to stand it. But once I put CleanRom on it, it flies. Makes it worth it all the more, and those who have not done it yet, are missing out. However, before doing anything make sure you spend lots and lots of time looking up on how to do so!!!
Tylor
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Agreed.
I lasted 6 weeks and got pissed off with the constant native browser crashes..several sites that I frequent have Flash and only the native browser supports it properly. Didn't care about the warranty really, it is only for a year and it looks like I've got a decent device.
After I got over the "scared to break something", it was quite easy. Now just to keep up with the CROMI updates. It doesn't take long to patch at least.
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Agreed.
I lasted 6 weeks and got pissed off with the constant native browser crashes..several sites that I frequent have Flash and only the native browser supports it properly. Didn't care about the warranty really, it is only for a year and it looks like I've got a decent device.
After I got over the "scared to break something", it was quite easy. Now just to keep up with the CROMI updates. It doesn't take long to patch at least.
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Lol... Yeah you'll get used to my updates
That'll be it for another week hopefully
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Lol... Yeah you'll get used to my updates
That'll be it for another week hopefully
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Apparently!
I noticed that you went from 3.4.2 to 3.4.4 this afternoon!
Great work!
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Apparently!
I noticed that you went from 3.4.2 to 3.4.4 this afternoon!
Great work!
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Splitz300 said:
Agreed.
I lasted 6 weeks and got pissed off with the constant native browser crashes..several sites that I frequent have Flash and only the native browser supports it properly. Didn't care about the warranty really, it is only for a year and it looks like I've got a decent device.
After I got over the "scared to break something", it was quite easy. Now just to keep up with the CROMI updates. It doesn't take long to patch at least.
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So I am in the same boat, 99% ready to root for the same reasons.....Can I ask which method/instructions you ended up using?
CJ
p.s. I am running JB 4.1.1 - 10.4.4.25-20121228
ccjbird said:
So I am in the same boat, 99% ready to root for the same reasons.....Can I ask which method/instructions you ended up using?
CJ
p.s. I am running JB 4.1.1 - 10.4.4.25-20121228
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This thread has it all Also, refer to Post 2 in that same thread for additional stuff.
I think by the time I gathered everything, read as much as possible, it took about 2 hours from start to finish.
There's also a youTube video in that thread. The software that he used was much easier in my opinion.
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several sites that I frequent have Flash and only the native browser supports it properly.
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If you're having Flash issues, try Boat Browser. Flash works perfectly. It's nice to watch a CNN stream nice and smooth in Flash on this big screen.
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Have my Xoom WiFi pre-ordered and delivery is supposed to be next week. I am coming from a Viewsonic G-Tablet (will still have two of them, just I won't be using) where the ONLY way to make use of them is by rooting and installing a third-party ROM.
With the Xoom, it seems like rooting it is more of an intellectual exercise than something that would make a big difference in day to day use. Is there something I'm missing?
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Have my Xoom WiFi pre-ordered and delivery is supposed to be next week. I am coming from a Viewsonic G-Tablet (will still have two of them, just I won't be using) where the ONLY way to make use of them is by rooting and installing a third-party ROM.
With the Xoom, it seems like rooting it is more of an intellectual exercise than something that would make a big difference in day to day use. Is there something I'm missing?
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1) Delete the crap you don't want
2) Overclock
3) Titanium backup
4) Usb Hosting
5) One day custom roms
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1) Delete the crap you don't want
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Anything in particular you are thinking of?
2) Overclock
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Unless that helps video playback, I doubt I want to run my battery down or possibly overheat the tablet.
3) Titanium backup
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I use that on my G-Tablet because I can't be sure the market will be stable from one refresh to the next. But is there a real need for it on the Xoom?
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Nothing that ES File Manager and a Network drive won't take care of, but point taken
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Given Google's announcement about the HC stuff not being released anytime soon, I wouldn't be holding my breath on that.
So basically, the same reasons I might want to do it on my Nexus One. But it's not like the G-Tablet where I'm going to go from hardly acceptable to Notebook replacement is what I'm hearing.
True...as far as deleting apps I delete a ton. The browser, the games, and quick office is just a few. I backup my evo files and bring them over to the xoom (like games).
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True...as far as deleting apps I delete a ton. The browser, the games, and quick office is just a few. I backup my evo files and bring them over to the xoom (like games).
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woa! you deleted the browser? i use opera mostly, but i would sooo not be comfortable doing that. just raised an eyebrow, i'm sure you have your reasons, just never heard of someone doing that. and i've been using/tweaking android for years now.
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woa! you deleted the browser? i use opera mostly, but i would sooo not be comfortable doing that. just raised an eyebrow, i'm sure you have your reasons, just never heard of someone doing that. and i've been using/tweaking android for years now.
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I use dolphin so i delete it from all my devices Don't need programs that i don't use taking up space i need.
I don't recommend deleting the stock browser, and here is why;
I have a rooted Droid running UD 7.0. It's set up with Sweeter Home, etc,just the way I like it.
When Google Gesture Search came out, I spent days trying to figure out why I couldn't get it to work. I found out by trial & error (and a LOT of restoring ROMs!) that it was because I had deleted the stock browser in favor of Dolphin.
-Prob'ly nuttin, but because of all the unknowns, I expect I'll keep the stock basics until I can do a systematic, controlled delete. Just my 2 sense, err, cents.
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I use dolphin so i delete it from all my devices Don't need programs that i don't use taking up space i need.
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dude, on the xoom, how much space do you need? the browser is what 8meg, max? i use other browsers too, just would never delete the stock browser, to each their own.
diaa08 said:
dude, on the xoom, how much space do you need? the browser is what 8meg, max? i use other browsers too, just would never delete the stock browser, to each their own.
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I NEED IT ALL
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I NEED IT ALL
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Agreed.
Not to mention its worth it for the overclock alone. I have not noticed a change in battery life, and in terms of heat the dual core runs around 90 tops under heavy use.
These threads are useless, this Guy has a rooted device and knows what functions root already does. Why is he asking us what we will do with it when he already knows. Someone says removed crapware, then he gives an argument. Someone says overclock or custom then he gives another argument. C'mon man you already know what root brings, just determine if you need it or not because everyone's needs and wants are different.
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These threads are useless, this Guy has a rooted device and knows what functions root already does. Why is he asking us what we will do with it when he already knows. Someone says removed crapware, then he gives an argument. Someone says overclock or custom then he gives another argument. C'mon man you already know what root brings, just determine if you need it or not because everyone's needs and wants are different.
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Just to clarify, I have a couple of rooted Viewsonic G-Tablets. I haven't rooted my Xoom yet because:
A) I haven't got it yet (3/29 according to UPS)
B) It looks like it's a more complicated procedure at this point since there isn't native SD Card support
So I was trying to decide whether rooting was necessary (which it very much is on the G-Tablets), or just something desirable. And in the latter case, if there's something that would let me do that I would really miss.
At this point it sounds like there are three things I give up by not rooting, and the only one of those I don't have an acceptable workaround for is the overclocking. But I didn't want to hijack my own thread by starting a discussion on that, and so have been following the thread about OC instead.
FWIW...
Only reason I rooted my xoom was for the ability to play movies stutter free directly from my net shares...other than that no other reason...doesn't need to be overclocked and not really in to the custom rom game.
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myv6mustang said:
Only reason I rooted my xoom was for the ability to play movies stutter free directly from my net shares...other than that no other reason...doesn't need to be overclocked and not really in to the custom rom game.
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What player are you using? I assume you needed the CIFS support for this?
yes Cifs from the market. Using rockplayer until vplayer releases support for the Xoom.
I had a Viewsonic on Saturday (returning it monday) and i tried all the custom roms, but the main issue is the terrible display, i found not only do you need hold it in front of you, it still wasnt perfect until you held it on a weird angle. Even for 339.00 it's not worth it. I liked the USB port on it but it's ready to go back to the store tommorow. The Xoom screen is much much better (I had them both next to each other all day trying to justify). Heck, i might bring both back and just keep my Nook Color.. Time will tell... Battery life with the Tiamat kernal was about 9 hours but i started it at 72%.
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Just to clarify, I have a couple of rooted Viewsonic G-Tablets. I haven't rooted my Xoom yet because:
A) I haven't got it yet (3/29 according to UPS)
B) It looks like it's a more complicated procedure at this point since there isn't native SD Card support
So I was trying to decide whether rooting was necessary (which it very much is on the G-Tablets), or just something desirable. And in the latter case, if there's something that would let me do that I would really miss.
At this point it sounds like there are three things I give up by not rooting, and the only one of those I don't have an acceptable workaround for is the overclocking. But I didn't want to hijack my own thread by starting a discussion on that, and so have been following the thread about OC instead.
FWIW...
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I am having the same thoughts myself.
I jailbroke all my iphones, I've rooted all my android devices, but, for some reason, I am not anxious to root the xoom
I think once sd card support comes, and, when there are MORE rom/kernel choices, it might be more desirable to do it.
for trouble free viewing of hd videos, just rip with handbrake, or a similar program and watch them with Vital player..
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I use dolphin so i delete it from all my devices Don't need programs that i don't use taking up space i need.
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U do know that is system space and you cant access it, right? thats not good and can cause the system to become unstable. Its space you will never see or be able to use so leave it. Get an app that hides apps from your tray and your problem solved ina safe manner..but hey, to each his own.
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I am having the same thoughts myself.
I jailbroke all my iphones, I've rooted all my android devices, but, for some reason, I am not anxious to root the xoom
I think once sd card support comes, and, when there are MORE rom/kernel choices, it might be more desirable to do it.
for trouble free viewing of hd videos, just rip with handbrake, or a similar program and watch them with Vital player..
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I couldnt agree more. I use handbrake for ripping also and I also don't see any current use in rooting a Xoom. Movies play crystal clear..Battery life is 9hours..
I just think some people are never satisfied..lol..like we're spoiled brats.
Im interested in the process but people are tweaking and reaching like this beast of a tablet isnt dual core and on the lastest version of android.
This is a Xoom and not a G1..lol...Not yelling..just made a point that we are never content until we brake some ****.
Google doesnt want the OEM using and skinning their **** anymore..atleast without that licensing/kiss our Google,rich ass Fee..so they probably wont release Honeycomb until 2012 I hear anyway.
So in theory u guys are holding your breath for a Dragons fart.
Ad blocking.
Alright...I have been waiting and waiting for a good android tablet...and right now...the Xoom is the best thing out... I know we have a few more options coming down the road...but it is just bugging the hell out of me that I don't have one yet. I just want to know from those that have a Xoom...was it worth it? Do you plan on selling it, returning it, or trading it in for another HC Tablet like the new Galaxy Tabs(sexy),G Slate...HTC whatever....or any others coming down the pipeline? Are the bugs too much to deal with....is the SD card slot not working...that irritating ...does no USB hosting make you want to throw it out the window...Do you get way too many FC's....are you really sick and tired of being shown Mobile Versions of web sites???? I guess my real question is....Are you happy?
Oh...I plan on surfing the web, watching some movies on an upcoming flight, playing some games, checking emails...ummm...facebook...twitter....normal stuff....if that helps at all
It's been one week now and l'm happy with it so far.
mh333 said:
It's been one week now and l'm happy with it so far.
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Anything that just totally pisses you off sometimes?
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Are the bugs too much to deal with....
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It's pushing it.
is the SD card slot not working...that irritating ...
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It's irritating that what I paid for is not what I got.
does no USB hosting make you want to throw it out the window...
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Personally, no. But I could easily see how it could.
Do you get way too many FC's....
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YouTube and the Browser constantly FC. It's ****ing annoying.
are you really sick and tired of being shown Mobile Versions of web sites????
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The browser is nothing short of crap. And other browsers I've tried are even worse... usually in terms of a horrid UI.
I guess my real question is....Are you happy?
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The jury's still out. If I get to day 85 of my 90 day Costco return policy and nothing has changed, it's going back. If Motorola/Google can iron out all the bugs, and I see a steady stream of high quality tablet apps, then I'm keeping it.
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Anything that just totally pisses you off sometimes?
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It's totally impossible to watch a YouTube video while browsing. If you click on YouTube it takes me like 5+ random clicks on anything to hopefully open the YouTube app... and then I pray that it doesn't force close... and if it does open I have to pray it doesn't freeze midway.
I'm with MikeyMike01, but also include the cold ghosting. I posted a question if anyone else noticed it, but only received a single reply saying they didn't notice it. I find it hard to imagine only my unit has the issue though.
I've also had issues with it taking sometimes 20-30 seconds for the screen to turn on after hitting the unlock button on the back.
I initially really liked it, but am now considering getting an ipad2.
I'm contemplating whether the 15% restocking fee is worth it (I got mine at Amazon)
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Get it from costco (wifi version) they have a 90 days return policy, anything better comes out during the 3 months am taking it back.
techniq35 said:
I initially really liked it, but am now considering getting an ipad2.
I'm contemplating whether the 15% restocking fee is worth it (I got mine at Amazon)
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My exact thoughts... sans restocking fee, since I got it at Costco.
kindiboy said:
Get it from costco (wifi version) they have a 90 days return policy, anything better comes out during the 3 months am taking it back.
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This man speaks the truth.
I am glad that costco gave me a 3 year warranty... however I'm sure I'll upgrade within the first year lol.
Anyways, I love this tablet, I'm very happy I got it, and like he said costco gives you 3 MONTHS to decide if you like it or not! That's ridiculous! They accept returns no questions asked . I've returned the xoom twice and I didn't get asked a single thing. (unlucky with dead pixels)
edit: and costco gives you a free gel case!
At first I was going to buy the galaxy tab 10.1 (original version), but when I did see wifi only Xoom in stock at B&H I couldn't resist and ordered it. I just couldn't wait any longer.
After 3 days with it, I can say I'm happy with it.
Yesterday I started having hangs on the stock browser, I could scroll and zoom, but I couldn't click on any links. Only restart helped. So I removed the apps I installed yesterday and it seems the problem went away. So it seems the browser problems are somehow related to some apps that cause problems.
I haven't had any other problems.
bought it at Costco as well. Actually I'm replying this message on it.
I don't have any major issue with it and I love it! Don't care much about the motor gel case though.
damn thanks guys. Real honest answers....I couldn't wait...well I could but I got really aggravated at the end of the day from general life BS...so I ran out and picked one up to make up for it....Plus youngotta see for yourself. Any ways right? I had a boat load of Best buy reward zone certificates so I picked one up there...I figure I will play with it for a week and return it if I dont like it... but I feel like if I have any issues it will be more with honeycomb than the Xoom...and hopefully Google and Motorola will address them in the future. So far I'm liking it....I'm on it now.....here's hoping for a good experience or decent experience
my biggest complain so far is the screen. It just so washed out compare to my ipad. Heck, my Gtablet screen actually looks better (at the right angle of course). I love honeycomb though. It's a bit confusing at first, but now I don't think I can enjoy using a tablet with a different OS.
I got mine at costco also, so I'm not too worried about new tablets coming out. right now I'm very interested with the transformer. especially with its IPS screen. I just hope that it's built well like the xoom.
Shoudl I root??? I want to but I'm not to sure if its the right decision. Since the day I got this phone I've seen thread after thread of problems only seen after rooting. I've gone about 4 months without doing anything to my One S and have had no issues, but now I want to move to T-Mobiles unlimited plan but I still want tethering and from what I understand, that's the only way to keep it. I've been looking for some sort of deciding factor in it all but can't find one. Please help me decide?
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shoudl i root??? I want to but i'm not to sure if its the right decision. Since the day i got this phone i've seen thread after thread of problems only seen after rooting. I've gone about 4 months without doing anything to my one s and have had no issues, but now i want to move to t-mobiles unlimited plan but i still want tethering and from what i understand, that's the only way to keep it. I've been looking for some sort of deciding factor in it all but can't find one. Please help me decide?
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whoa guys, not all at once!!!
No.
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Absolutely not.
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No.
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Even if that wasn't sincere, thanks for saying something haha
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No.
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Absolutely not.
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Ok ok I'm gathering that I should NOT root but what is the reason behind the answer?
Rooting is easy, but takes some research and knowledge. If you can't even learn why you should root yourself, you probably aren't ready to do it either.
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Rooting is easy, but takes some research and knowledge. If you can't even learn why you should root yourself, you probably aren't ready to do it either.
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Don't get me wrong I know the ease of rooting thanks to the wonderful members of xda. I've rooted my previous phones and reaped the benefits but with this phone I've seen more problems than anything throughout the forums. I know I know, everyone runs into issues sometimes but I'm not sure if rooting this phone runs more of a risk
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Don't get me wrong I know the ease of rooting thanks to the wonderful members of xda. I've rooted my previous phones and reaped the benefits but with this phone I've seen more problems than anything throughout the forums. I know I know, everyone runs into issues sometimes but I'm not sure if rooting this phone runs more of a risk
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Rooting and running CM made this phone faster, more reliable, easier to use and customize and better looking. Only loss is the camera.
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Rooting and running CM made this phone faster, more reliable, easier to use and customize and better looking. Only loss is the camera.
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Wait so if you root there will be no more camera?
You say rooting has issues? I am rooted and have no issues at all.
The only risk you partake is that you may void your warranty for unlocking the bootloader.
Rooting is nothing but super user. It could set there and do nothing just like unrooted.
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Doughh said:
Wait so if you root there will be no more camera?
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Sorry...you lose the fast Sense camera and get the slightly less fast, less featured AOSP camera. You can make up much of the difference with Market apps.
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Sorry...you lose the fast Sense camera and get the slightly less fast, less featured AOSP camera. You can make up much of the difference with Market apps.
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To clarify, you don't lose the sense camera by rooting! You lose the sense camera by installing a Rom that is not sense based: any aosp rom like cyanogen mod. Any Rom that is based on sense like viper, or trick droid, you will have a fully functioning sense camera.
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To answer your question directly, rooting this phone is easy and no negatives if you read a lot and understand wty may be voided and if you screw up, chance of losing a phone. But, you already know that from the other rooting you mentioned you did.
Most people that have issues don't wait long enough to learn phone and don't study the process enough. Reading just one root thread is not enough. I spent weeks reading everything I could before rooting my N1.
Benefits outweigh risks. I would root just to get Nandroids and Titanium Backup.
To me this is a hobby as at the end of the day, it is still a phone with email/internet.
Sorry, that wasn't a direct answer. But, no more risks rooting this phone than any other. Just know if you are S3 or S4 and what hboot you have before flashing roms.
Also, if you can't find a strong reason to root, I wouldn't--this phone can stand on its own--
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To answer your question directly, rooting this phone is easy and no negatives if you read a lot and understand wty may be voided and if you screw up, chance of losing a phone. But, you already know that from the other rooting you mentioned you did.
Most people that have issues don't wait long enough to learn phone and don't study the process enough. Reading just one root thread is not enough. I spent weeks reading everything I could before rooting my N1.
Benefits outweigh risks. I would root just to get Nandroids and Titanium Backup.
To me this is a hobby as at the end of the day, it is still a phone with email/internet.
Sorry, that wasn't a direct answer. But, no more risks rooting this phone than any other. Just know if you are S3 or S4 and what hboot you have before flashing roms.
Also, if you can't find a strong reason to root, I wouldn't--this phone can stand on its own--
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Thank you very much for your input, I appreciate it. I agree with everything you said especially the part about the phone being able to stand on its own, I've had it for months and its great. I will be making my decision by the end of the night haha. (Jeez, you'd think I wouldn't have to put so much importance on a phone :/)
Jeez, you'd think I wouldn't have to put so much importance on a phone :/)
You are not the only one--
Good Luck on whatever you do--
I will add one more thought--I have been doing this for several years back to early Cyanogen/Modaco on my N1 on the Nexus One Forum. Hundreds of flashes and can say I am getting a little tapped out. I may not root myself when I get my next phone. They have come so far from those early days-- hear tell the next generation phones will have my coffee ready when I get up--
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Jeez, you'd think I wouldn't have to put so much importance on a phone :/)
You are not the only one--
Good Luck on whatever you do--
I will add one more thought--I have been doing this for several years back to early Cyanogen/Modaco on my N1 on the Nexus One Forum. Hundreds of flashes and can say I am getting a little tapped out. I may not root myself when I get my next phone. They have come so far from those early days-- hear tell the next generation phones will have my coffee ready when I get up--
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That's what I thought about this one, but every time my finger accidentally hit some idiotic bloat app or I couldn't launch a YouTube link with the app, it pissed me off. With the exception of the iPhone, all modern smartphones really need to be rooted to pry the carrier's fingers out of the deep crevices of your $600 pocket computer.
yes, excellent points on the bloat. that's why odds are I would still root for the features I mentioned above and maybe skip the continuous flashing of custom roms--
however, with more memory and speed coming the bloat may not be a factor. and, I think we can kinda freeze some of these apps now. haven't paid much attention to that feature as I rooted same day i got phone--
I waited a few weeks, then waited a few more weeks after rooting and debloating, but the allure of CM was too strong. I just cant stand the disjointed look of Sense.
CM10 is running pretty good--flashing nightlies
Guess we're getting of topic, or may entice OP to root--
I love CyanogenMod, but i've never spent any time messing around with kernels for any of my devices, I've left them all stock. What are the advantages to using a custom kernel with CM10? also, will i need to root to flash CM10, or am i safe just unlocking? and lastly, (this may be the wrong place to ask, but its worth a shot) Will CM10's ota updater work with TWRP?
sorry if any of that is noobish, i've flashed plenty of roms before (and even killed a captivate!) but i've never messed around with much more than that. Thanks!!
You can overclock with different kernel
How much does overclocking affect battery life?
toshi95 said:
How much does overclocking affect battery life?
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More power i.e. more overclocking you give your device the more juice it uses! Hard to really put numbers on it as it all depends on what you do and how you use your device. But for certain it will drain your battery life more and may make your device warm.
I don't think its necessary as its a bloody quad core in it already with an extra core for simple tasks. Unless you are playing some totally intense game (which I don't do) you might need to do it.
Okay, sounds reasonable. I really want to put CM10 on it, but i dont want to lose the ability to get OTA updates if i decide to go back to stock :/
toshi95 said:
Okay, sounds reasonable. I really want to put CM10 on it, but i dont want to lose the ability to get OTA updates if i decide to go back to stock :/
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Yeah, I kinda struggled with the fact that I would void my warranty and not be able to get OTA updates too. I struggled with it for about 30 minutes, then flashed TWRP. lol The thing to remember is that most of these guys building the custom ROMs will add the updates when they get the chance. Really, the only thing you're going to miss out on is the warranty.
I'm running the Paranoid Android ROM which is a CM10 hybrid. I'm also running the Untermensch kernel which allows me to overclock up to 1.7GHz. I usually run it at 1.5 and am very pleased with the overall look and performance.
Here it is if you would like to read up on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1971806
wetbiker7 said:
Yeah, I kinda struggled with the fact that I would void my warranty and not be able to get OTA updates too. I struggled with it for about 30 minutes, then flashed TWRP. lol The thing to remember is that most of these guys building the custom ROMs will add the updates when they get the chance. Really, the only thing you're going to miss out on is the warranty.
I'm running the Paranoid Android ROM which is a CM10 hybrid. I'm also running the Untermensch kernel which allows me to overclock up to 1.7GHz. I usually run it at 1.5 and am very pleased with the overall look and performance.
Here it is if you would like to read up on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1971806
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Thanks man, that helps a lot! i'll check out that rom!
Is the difference between Gorrilla Glass and the TF300 enough to keep me worried about the warranty? I have faith that Cyanogenmod will stay updated long after Asus drops support, so all im really worried about now is the screen.
EDIT: also, how do i find the untermensch kernel? i find many posts/threads referencing it but im not entirely certain as to what im looking for (i want to run plain ol' official CM10 with the untermensch kernel)
toshi95 said:
Thanks man, that helps a lot! i'll check out that rom!
Is the difference between Gorrilla Glass and the TF300 enough to keep me worried about the warranty? I have faith that Cyanogenmod will stay updated long after Asus drops support, so all im really worried about now is the screen.
EDIT: also, how do i find the untermensch kernel? i find many posts/threads referencing it but im not entirely certain as to what im looking for (i want to run plain ol' official CM10 with the untermensch kernel)
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According to Asus, the tablet has hardened glass. I really don't know how that compares to Gorilla glass though. I've read where several people have dropped theirs and the glass didn't break. Still, I wouldn't push it. Lol
The Untermensch kernel for Paranoid Android is in the OP for the ROM. You will need to use the one in that thread because it has been modified to work with Paranoid Android.
There is also a kernel directory in the development section. It has a list of most of the kernels.
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I just wanted to add that the keyboard works great with Paranoid Android. I just bought mine the other day and it really nice. There are a few of the custom ROMs in here that the dock/keyboard will not work properly with.
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wetbiker7 said:
According to Asus, the tablet has hardened glass. I really don't know how that compares to Gorilla glass though. I've read where several people have dropped theirs and the glass didn't break. Still, I wouldn't push it. Lol
The Untermensch kernel for Paranoid Android is in the OP for the ROM. You will need to use the one in that thread because it has been modified to work with Paranoid Android.
There is also a kernel directory in the development section. It has a list of most of the kernels.
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I just wanted to add that the keyboard works great with Paranoid Android. I just bought mine the other day and it really nice. There are a few of the custom ROMs in here that the dock/keyboard will not work properly with.
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Very informative, thank you!! I've been debating on whether or not to get the keyboard, are there any real advantages aside from the facts that it extends the battery and has a hardware keyboard, or do those alone justify it? Sorry I have so many questions haha
toshi95 said:
Very informative, thank you!! I've been debating on whether or not to get the keyboard, are there any real advantages aside from the facts that it extends the battery and has a hardware keyboard, or do those alone justify it? Sorry I have so many questions haha
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The keyboard not only extends the battery, it also has a USB port and full size sd card slot. The touchpad really comes in handy too. Oh don't let me forget about all the short-cuts on the keyboard. It has a back key (back screen), bluetooth, lock, volume, brightness, media player, wifi and quite a few others. It also comes in handy when you want to watch a movie. No prop needed.Just open it up and it sits there like a mini laptop with touch screen features!!! I'm very happy with it so far.
I really got a good deal on mine I think.
I went to Office depot and asked them if they would match the Wal-mart online price which was $119. I actually just threw the question out there with little hope of them accepting it. I told them that I was wanting a black one and asked if that's what they had. The manager said no, all he had was blue. I told him I would take it if he would match the price. To my surprise, the manager looked it up on the computer, said YES and I ended up walking out of Office Depot with a blue dock/keyboard for $119. They usually sell them for $149.
wetbiker7 said:
The keyboard not only extends the battery, it also has a USB port and full size sd card slot. The touchpad really comes in handy too. Oh don't let me forget about all the short-cuts on the keyboard. It has a back key (back screen), bluetooth, lock, volume, brightness, media player, wifi and quite a few others. It also comes in handy when you want to watch a movie. No prop needed.Just open it up and it sits there like a mini laptop with touch screen features!!! I'm very happy with it so far.
I really got a good deal on mine I think.
I went to Office depot and asked them if they would match the Wal-mart online price which was $119. I actually just threw the question out there with little hope of them accepting it. I told them that I was wanting a black one and asked if that's what they had. The manager said no, all he had was blue. I told him I would take it if he would match the price. To my surprise, the manager looked it up on the computer, said YES and I ended up walking out of Office Depot with a blue dock/keyboard for $119. They usually sell them for $149.
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Damn, that's a good deal! If Walmart still has em for that, I'll have to get one! I came so close to getting a Nexus 7, and even though the Tf300 is a lot more expensive, i think I made the right choice!
toshi95 said:
Damn, that's a good deal! If Walmart still has em for that, I'll have to get one! I came so close to getting a Nexus 7, and even though the Tf300 is a lot more expensive, i think I made the right choice!
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I agree. I seriously considered buying an N7 but decided to go with the TF300T 32 gb for quite a few reasons. The 10 inch screen, internal storage, micro sd card, dock, performance, development and a few others reasons. Right now I've got the $418 invested in the tab and dock plus a Sandisk 32gb class 10 card i caught on sale from the Best Buy website for $17 (great deal). I can honestly say that for what I've got invested, I'm very happy with the TF300T and accessories. If I had to do it all over again knowing what I know now, I would make the same choices.
The docks that Wal-mart had were out of stock the last time I checked. If they are carrying them for $119 when they restock, that would be a good deal. I lucked up when the manager at Office Depot matched the on-line price. Retailers usually won't do that for items on-line.
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I agree. I seriously considered buying an N7 but decided to go with the TF300T 32 gb for quite a few reasons. The 10 inch screen, internal storage, micro sd card, dock, performance, development and a few others reasons. Right now I've got the $418 invested in the tab and dock plus a Sandisk 32gb class 10 card i caught on sale from the Best Buy website for $17 (great deal). I can honestly say that for what I've got invested, I'm very happy with the TF300T and accessories. If I had to do it all over again knowing what I know now, I would make the same choices.
The docks that Wal-mart had were out of stock the last time I checked. If they are carrying them for $119 when they restock, that would be a good deal. I lucked up when the manager at Office Depot matched the on-line price. Retailers usually won't do that for items on-line.
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Yeah, that's crazy haha. I couldn't find any on Wal-mart that low, but a quick google search brought me a whole bunch of results under $150, so im not too disappointed :laugh:
toshi95 said:
Yeah, that's crazy haha. I couldn't find any on Wal-mart that low, but a quick google search brought me a whole bunch of results under $150, so im not too disappointed :laugh:
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Really? I just Googled Walmart Asus tf300t dock. One of the links took me straight to the page with the dock for $119. As for others out there for less money, there are quite a few selling it for around $125.
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Really? I just Googled Walmart Asus tf300t dock. One of the links took me straight to the page with the dock for $119. As for others out there for less money, there are quite a few selling it for around $125.
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must be a local thing, i just tried the same thing and the only one i found was $127 and out of stock. Found one on Newegg though, refurbished (which isnt a big deal for me, as long as it works) for $90
toshi95 said:
I love CyanogenMod, but i've never spent any time messing around with kernels for any of my devices, I've left them all stock. What are the advantages to using a custom kernel with CM10? also, will i need to root to flash CM10, or am i safe just unlocking? and lastly, (this may be the wrong place to ask, but its worth a shot) Will CM10's ota updater work with TWRP?
sorry if any of that is noobish, i've flashed plenty of roms before (and even killed a captivate!) but i've never messed around with much more than that. Thanks!!
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I just checked on the Walmart site and they've gone up to $127. I guess I got lucky when doing my search and seeing it at $119. The manager at Office Depot did a search on the Walmart site to make sure he was matching their price and saw the $119 price too. They must have changed it right after I bought mine.
Oh Yeeahh
MaGeNTa is still the best!
I want to ask, I've been planning to buy N5 for quite some time. For people who own the device for quite some time now, how is it fairing especially after 4.4.2 update? Thanks for your insights.
ickoicko said:
I want to ask, I've been planning to buy N5 for quite some time. For people who own the device for quite some time now, how is it fairing especially after 4.4.2 update? Thanks for your insights.
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You're going to get a different answer from everyone who responds. I'm really happy with it for the most part, except that Google + and Chrome will randomly start running really aggressively in the background and killing my battery. It doesn't happen often, and a reboot seems to fix it, but it's definitely a problem I've noticed.
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You're going to get a different answer from everyone who responds. I'm really happy with it for the most part, except that Google + and Chrome will randomly start running really aggressively in the background and killing my battery. It doesn't happen often, and a reboot seems to fix it, but it's definitely a problem I've noticed.
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Yeah, at least get a birds' eye view of owners who has experience. Did your problem occur after 4.4.2 update? and is it on a custom rom? I don't wanna venture into another fiasco wherein I didn't do my research properly and get a lot of problems with the phone. At least getting some insights from other people will solidify my stand whether or not I will get it.
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Yeah, at least get a birds' eye view of owners who has experience. Did your problem occur after 4.4.2 update? and is it on a custom rom? I don't wanna venture into another fiasco wherein I didn't do my research properly and get a lot of problems with the phone. At least getting some insights from other people will solidify my stand whether or not I will get it.
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I've only noticed it since the 4.4.2 update, and I'm just running stock rooted. Maybe it's just me though because I haven't seen anyone else mention this specific issue. In any case, it doesn't detract from my enjoyment of the phone. It's still the best device I've ever owned.
I personally think 4.4.2 ruined the battery
Team Nexus 5 sucks
^really bad? Like S3 rooted battery problem bad?
Never owned an s3 but this battery life is bad because I rely on it in my business. I literally have to carry a backup phone since the nexus 5 's battery is non removable
Team Nexus 5 sucks
They'll release a fix soon though, this problem won't be overlooked by Google by the looks of it. A lot of people are complaining on Product forums at Google.
They will but it's taking so long. I've had problems with this phone since early November
Yeah, can I get away with it by NOT installing 4.4.2 and just install 4.4.1? since 4.4.2 has problems?
I think you'll find the majority of users are happy with their N5s. I find the phone to be a superb device. I'm stock unrooted 4.4.2 and have no issues whatsoever. Battery life is perfectly acceptable, I regularly go 2 days with 3½ hours SOT a charge, obviously more SOT if using the device more heavily in a shorter time frame.
If you read available threads you should be able to find all the info you want, and you'll see dicecuber is always complaining about how the N5 sucks and how much better Galaxy devices are. Most of us still can't figure out why he kept the N5.
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Great phone, well worth the $350. No lag whatsoever and just buttery smooth. If u like pure android without laggy touch wiz or sense, then this is the phone for u. Camera is very decent, not the best but very acceptable. Battery life seems a little worse on 4.4.2 but still able to get a days use out of it. I have a screenshot of my n5 going 5 days and 6 hrs off the charger, with light usage of course.
Overall its a great phone. For that price, it can't be beat.
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Half the fun of owning a phone these days is complaining about short battery life on xda. The other half is trying to fix it. You can install all sorts of utility apps, flash custom roms and kernels, tweak this and that, and then go on one of the dedicated threads and talk all about it. It becomes like a hobby.
That being said, I agree that there will be better battery life on the next KitKat. In the meantime, get an N5 and join in the fun! The phone is awesome.
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Great phone all around. Battery consistently makes it through 2 days and 1 night with normal usage for me.
The chrome and google plus issues are quite easy to fix to be honest.. just disable them
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Well according to Gizmodo the Nexus 5 is the best android phone you can get for the price. http://gizmodo.com/every-android-phone-ranked-1468382693
According to me- the only android phone that I will ever need.
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The chrome and google plus issues are quite easy to fix to be honest.. just disable them
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That's a perfect fix if you don't use either of those apps. If you do, not so much. I'm looking into options to ditch Chrome, and after finding Dolphin to be really fast but crash-tastic as ever, Firefox seems to be working out pretty well. It might be a decent Chrome replacement.
As far as Google+, I'd rather not disable it because I use the Photos app quite a bit. If worse comes to worse, I might have to do it though.
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That's a perfect fix if you don't use either of those apps. If you do, not so much. I'm looking into options to ditch Chrome, and after finding Dolphin to be really fast but crash-tastic as ever, Firefox seems to be working out pretty well. It might be a decent Chrome replacement.
As far as Google+, I'd rather not disable it because I use the Photos app quite a bit. If worse comes to worse, I might have to do it though.
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Could you link me to the google forums thread? Google needs to fix this...fast.
aooga said:
Could you link me to the google forums thread? Google needs to fix this...fast.
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I'm not sure what you're referring to. I'm not involved in any Google forums thread.
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I'm not sure what you're referring to. I'm not involved in any Google forums thread.
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Yeah I know you're not, but I keep hearing people talk about the official google thread on http://productforums.google.com/forum/
Thanks anyway.