I love CyanogenMod, but i've never spent any time messing around with kernels for any of my devices, I've left them all stock. What are the advantages to using a custom kernel with CM10? also, will i need to root to flash CM10, or am i safe just unlocking? and lastly, (this may be the wrong place to ask, but its worth a shot) Will CM10's ota updater work with TWRP?
sorry if any of that is noobish, i've flashed plenty of roms before (and even killed a captivate!) but i've never messed around with much more than that. Thanks!!
You can overclock with different kernel
How much does overclocking affect battery life?
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How much does overclocking affect battery life?
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More power i.e. more overclocking you give your device the more juice it uses! Hard to really put numbers on it as it all depends on what you do and how you use your device. But for certain it will drain your battery life more and may make your device warm.
I don't think its necessary as its a bloody quad core in it already with an extra core for simple tasks. Unless you are playing some totally intense game (which I don't do) you might need to do it.
Okay, sounds reasonable. I really want to put CM10 on it, but i dont want to lose the ability to get OTA updates if i decide to go back to stock :/
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Okay, sounds reasonable. I really want to put CM10 on it, but i dont want to lose the ability to get OTA updates if i decide to go back to stock :/
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Yeah, I kinda struggled with the fact that I would void my warranty and not be able to get OTA updates too. I struggled with it for about 30 minutes, then flashed TWRP. lol The thing to remember is that most of these guys building the custom ROMs will add the updates when they get the chance. Really, the only thing you're going to miss out on is the warranty.
I'm running the Paranoid Android ROM which is a CM10 hybrid. I'm also running the Untermensch kernel which allows me to overclock up to 1.7GHz. I usually run it at 1.5 and am very pleased with the overall look and performance.
Here it is if you would like to read up on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1971806
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Yeah, I kinda struggled with the fact that I would void my warranty and not be able to get OTA updates too. I struggled with it for about 30 minutes, then flashed TWRP. lol The thing to remember is that most of these guys building the custom ROMs will add the updates when they get the chance. Really, the only thing you're going to miss out on is the warranty.
I'm running the Paranoid Android ROM which is a CM10 hybrid. I'm also running the Untermensch kernel which allows me to overclock up to 1.7GHz. I usually run it at 1.5 and am very pleased with the overall look and performance.
Here it is if you would like to read up on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1971806
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Thanks man, that helps a lot! i'll check out that rom!
Is the difference between Gorrilla Glass and the TF300 enough to keep me worried about the warranty? I have faith that Cyanogenmod will stay updated long after Asus drops support, so all im really worried about now is the screen.
EDIT: also, how do i find the untermensch kernel? i find many posts/threads referencing it but im not entirely certain as to what im looking for (i want to run plain ol' official CM10 with the untermensch kernel)
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Thanks man, that helps a lot! i'll check out that rom!
Is the difference between Gorrilla Glass and the TF300 enough to keep me worried about the warranty? I have faith that Cyanogenmod will stay updated long after Asus drops support, so all im really worried about now is the screen.
EDIT: also, how do i find the untermensch kernel? i find many posts/threads referencing it but im not entirely certain as to what im looking for (i want to run plain ol' official CM10 with the untermensch kernel)
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According to Asus, the tablet has hardened glass. I really don't know how that compares to Gorilla glass though. I've read where several people have dropped theirs and the glass didn't break. Still, I wouldn't push it. Lol
The Untermensch kernel for Paranoid Android is in the OP for the ROM. You will need to use the one in that thread because it has been modified to work with Paranoid Android.
There is also a kernel directory in the development section. It has a list of most of the kernels.
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I just wanted to add that the keyboard works great with Paranoid Android. I just bought mine the other day and it really nice. There are a few of the custom ROMs in here that the dock/keyboard will not work properly with.
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According to Asus, the tablet has hardened glass. I really don't know how that compares to Gorilla glass though. I've read where several people have dropped theirs and the glass didn't break. Still, I wouldn't push it. Lol
The Untermensch kernel for Paranoid Android is in the OP for the ROM. You will need to use the one in that thread because it has been modified to work with Paranoid Android.
There is also a kernel directory in the development section. It has a list of most of the kernels.
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I just wanted to add that the keyboard works great with Paranoid Android. I just bought mine the other day and it really nice. There are a few of the custom ROMs in here that the dock/keyboard will not work properly with.
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Very informative, thank you!! I've been debating on whether or not to get the keyboard, are there any real advantages aside from the facts that it extends the battery and has a hardware keyboard, or do those alone justify it? Sorry I have so many questions haha
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Very informative, thank you!! I've been debating on whether or not to get the keyboard, are there any real advantages aside from the facts that it extends the battery and has a hardware keyboard, or do those alone justify it? Sorry I have so many questions haha
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The keyboard not only extends the battery, it also has a USB port and full size sd card slot. The touchpad really comes in handy too. Oh don't let me forget about all the short-cuts on the keyboard. It has a back key (back screen), bluetooth, lock, volume, brightness, media player, wifi and quite a few others. It also comes in handy when you want to watch a movie. No prop needed.Just open it up and it sits there like a mini laptop with touch screen features!!! I'm very happy with it so far.
I really got a good deal on mine I think.
I went to Office depot and asked them if they would match the Wal-mart online price which was $119. I actually just threw the question out there with little hope of them accepting it. I told them that I was wanting a black one and asked if that's what they had. The manager said no, all he had was blue. I told him I would take it if he would match the price. To my surprise, the manager looked it up on the computer, said YES and I ended up walking out of Office Depot with a blue dock/keyboard for $119. They usually sell them for $149.
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The keyboard not only extends the battery, it also has a USB port and full size sd card slot. The touchpad really comes in handy too. Oh don't let me forget about all the short-cuts on the keyboard. It has a back key (back screen), bluetooth, lock, volume, brightness, media player, wifi and quite a few others. It also comes in handy when you want to watch a movie. No prop needed.Just open it up and it sits there like a mini laptop with touch screen features!!! I'm very happy with it so far.
I really got a good deal on mine I think.
I went to Office depot and asked them if they would match the Wal-mart online price which was $119. I actually just threw the question out there with little hope of them accepting it. I told them that I was wanting a black one and asked if that's what they had. The manager said no, all he had was blue. I told him I would take it if he would match the price. To my surprise, the manager looked it up on the computer, said YES and I ended up walking out of Office Depot with a blue dock/keyboard for $119. They usually sell them for $149.
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Damn, that's a good deal! If Walmart still has em for that, I'll have to get one! I came so close to getting a Nexus 7, and even though the Tf300 is a lot more expensive, i think I made the right choice!
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Damn, that's a good deal! If Walmart still has em for that, I'll have to get one! I came so close to getting a Nexus 7, and even though the Tf300 is a lot more expensive, i think I made the right choice!
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I agree. I seriously considered buying an N7 but decided to go with the TF300T 32 gb for quite a few reasons. The 10 inch screen, internal storage, micro sd card, dock, performance, development and a few others reasons. Right now I've got the $418 invested in the tab and dock plus a Sandisk 32gb class 10 card i caught on sale from the Best Buy website for $17 (great deal). I can honestly say that for what I've got invested, I'm very happy with the TF300T and accessories. If I had to do it all over again knowing what I know now, I would make the same choices.
The docks that Wal-mart had were out of stock the last time I checked. If they are carrying them for $119 when they restock, that would be a good deal. I lucked up when the manager at Office Depot matched the on-line price. Retailers usually won't do that for items on-line.
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I agree. I seriously considered buying an N7 but decided to go with the TF300T 32 gb for quite a few reasons. The 10 inch screen, internal storage, micro sd card, dock, performance, development and a few others reasons. Right now I've got the $418 invested in the tab and dock plus a Sandisk 32gb class 10 card i caught on sale from the Best Buy website for $17 (great deal). I can honestly say that for what I've got invested, I'm very happy with the TF300T and accessories. If I had to do it all over again knowing what I know now, I would make the same choices.
The docks that Wal-mart had were out of stock the last time I checked. If they are carrying them for $119 when they restock, that would be a good deal. I lucked up when the manager at Office Depot matched the on-line price. Retailers usually won't do that for items on-line.
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Yeah, that's crazy haha. I couldn't find any on Wal-mart that low, but a quick google search brought me a whole bunch of results under $150, so im not too disappointed :laugh:
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Yeah, that's crazy haha. I couldn't find any on Wal-mart that low, but a quick google search brought me a whole bunch of results under $150, so im not too disappointed :laugh:
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Really? I just Googled Walmart Asus tf300t dock. One of the links took me straight to the page with the dock for $119. As for others out there for less money, there are quite a few selling it for around $125.
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Really? I just Googled Walmart Asus tf300t dock. One of the links took me straight to the page with the dock for $119. As for others out there for less money, there are quite a few selling it for around $125.
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must be a local thing, i just tried the same thing and the only one i found was $127 and out of stock. Found one on Newegg though, refurbished (which isnt a big deal for me, as long as it works) for $90
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I love CyanogenMod, but i've never spent any time messing around with kernels for any of my devices, I've left them all stock. What are the advantages to using a custom kernel with CM10? also, will i need to root to flash CM10, or am i safe just unlocking? and lastly, (this may be the wrong place to ask, but its worth a shot) Will CM10's ota updater work with TWRP?
sorry if any of that is noobish, i've flashed plenty of roms before (and even killed a captivate!) but i've never messed around with much more than that. Thanks!!
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UPDATE
UPDATE:
I just checked on the Walmart site and they've gone up to $127. I guess I got lucky when doing my search and seeing it at $119. The manager at Office Depot did a search on the Walmart site to make sure he was matching their price and saw the $119 price too. They must have changed it right after I bought mine.
Oh Yeeahh
MaGeNTa is still the best!
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Alright...I have been waiting and waiting for a good android tablet...and right now...the Xoom is the best thing out... I know we have a few more options coming down the road...but it is just bugging the hell out of me that I don't have one yet. I just want to know from those that have a Xoom...was it worth it? Do you plan on selling it, returning it, or trading it in for another HC Tablet like the new Galaxy Tabs(sexy),G Slate...HTC whatever....or any others coming down the pipeline? Are the bugs too much to deal with....is the SD card slot not working...that irritating ...does no USB hosting make you want to throw it out the window...Do you get way too many FC's....are you really sick and tired of being shown Mobile Versions of web sites???? I guess my real question is....Are you happy?
Oh...I plan on surfing the web, watching some movies on an upcoming flight, playing some games, checking emails...ummm...facebook...twitter....normal stuff....if that helps at all
It's been one week now and l'm happy with it so far.
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It's been one week now and l'm happy with it so far.
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Anything that just totally pisses you off sometimes?
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Are the bugs too much to deal with....
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It's pushing it.
is the SD card slot not working...that irritating ...
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It's irritating that what I paid for is not what I got.
does no USB hosting make you want to throw it out the window...
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Personally, no. But I could easily see how it could.
Do you get way too many FC's....
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YouTube and the Browser constantly FC. It's ****ing annoying.
are you really sick and tired of being shown Mobile Versions of web sites????
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The browser is nothing short of crap. And other browsers I've tried are even worse... usually in terms of a horrid UI.
I guess my real question is....Are you happy?
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The jury's still out. If I get to day 85 of my 90 day Costco return policy and nothing has changed, it's going back. If Motorola/Google can iron out all the bugs, and I see a steady stream of high quality tablet apps, then I'm keeping it.
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Anything that just totally pisses you off sometimes?
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It's totally impossible to watch a YouTube video while browsing. If you click on YouTube it takes me like 5+ random clicks on anything to hopefully open the YouTube app... and then I pray that it doesn't force close... and if it does open I have to pray it doesn't freeze midway.
I'm with MikeyMike01, but also include the cold ghosting. I posted a question if anyone else noticed it, but only received a single reply saying they didn't notice it. I find it hard to imagine only my unit has the issue though.
I've also had issues with it taking sometimes 20-30 seconds for the screen to turn on after hitting the unlock button on the back.
I initially really liked it, but am now considering getting an ipad2.
I'm contemplating whether the 15% restocking fee is worth it (I got mine at Amazon)
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Get it from costco (wifi version) they have a 90 days return policy, anything better comes out during the 3 months am taking it back.
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I initially really liked it, but am now considering getting an ipad2.
I'm contemplating whether the 15% restocking fee is worth it (I got mine at Amazon)
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My exact thoughts... sans restocking fee, since I got it at Costco.
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Get it from costco (wifi version) they have a 90 days return policy, anything better comes out during the 3 months am taking it back.
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This man speaks the truth.
I am glad that costco gave me a 3 year warranty... however I'm sure I'll upgrade within the first year lol.
Anyways, I love this tablet, I'm very happy I got it, and like he said costco gives you 3 MONTHS to decide if you like it or not! That's ridiculous! They accept returns no questions asked . I've returned the xoom twice and I didn't get asked a single thing. (unlucky with dead pixels)
edit: and costco gives you a free gel case!
At first I was going to buy the galaxy tab 10.1 (original version), but when I did see wifi only Xoom in stock at B&H I couldn't resist and ordered it. I just couldn't wait any longer.
After 3 days with it, I can say I'm happy with it.
Yesterday I started having hangs on the stock browser, I could scroll and zoom, but I couldn't click on any links. Only restart helped. So I removed the apps I installed yesterday and it seems the problem went away. So it seems the browser problems are somehow related to some apps that cause problems.
I haven't had any other problems.
bought it at Costco as well. Actually I'm replying this message on it.
I don't have any major issue with it and I love it! Don't care much about the motor gel case though.
damn thanks guys. Real honest answers....I couldn't wait...well I could but I got really aggravated at the end of the day from general life BS...so I ran out and picked one up to make up for it....Plus youngotta see for yourself. Any ways right? I had a boat load of Best buy reward zone certificates so I picked one up there...I figure I will play with it for a week and return it if I dont like it... but I feel like if I have any issues it will be more with honeycomb than the Xoom...and hopefully Google and Motorola will address them in the future. So far I'm liking it....I'm on it now.....here's hoping for a good experience or decent experience
my biggest complain so far is the screen. It just so washed out compare to my ipad. Heck, my Gtablet screen actually looks better (at the right angle of course). I love honeycomb though. It's a bit confusing at first, but now I don't think I can enjoy using a tablet with a different OS.
I got mine at costco also, so I'm not too worried about new tablets coming out. right now I'm very interested with the transformer. especially with its IPS screen. I just hope that it's built well like the xoom.
Well...
Unfortunately today as i was sending a text message to a friend using the new 4.2 keyboard with flow, a girl came running down the hallway and managed to knock my phone out my hand with her book bag...the end result was not pretty. The phone fell about 5 feet straight face down unto the screen. My otterbox commuter did very little to shelter the phone...and the screen has cracked pretty much everywhere on the right side. The digitizer is completely fine, but the glass is terrible. So...instead of fixing it, or waiting six months for my upgrade eligibility to get a new iPhone 5, (i have an iPad and a MBP, so it would be logical to connect all three, to keep me more organized in school), i called AT&T and they have let me get a new SGSIII for the regular price with an early upgrade...so as Jim did, i seized the opportunity. Just wanted to say thanks to all the great developers we have here, its been a great pleasure, and they've worked their asses off to do some pretty amazing things with this phone. Ill still be around checking stuff out, and if anyone wants anything tested, im willing to use my MB865 AT&T as a guinea pig. My S3 wont be here till Friday or Monday, so after that if any of the developers want anything tested, im willing to run it.
Thanks for everything guys!
-Sent from my Cracked MB865 running CM10
Ive listed mine too, but im getting the Atrix HD... couldnt imagine my life without my lapdock anymore...
So what did the girl say, after she killed your little precious ?
She didn't even notice and kept running..
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Ive listed mine too, but im getting the Atrix HD... couldnt imagine my life without my lapdock anymore...
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I don't think the Atrix HD supports Webtop/Tablet mode, so your lapdock won't get much benefit from it...
I'm leaving for the Nexus 4 soon too,
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I don't think the Atrix HD supports Webtop/Tablet mode, so your lapdock won't get much benefit from it...
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It does, just no tablet mode... ive researched it properly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31959597&postcount=16
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It does, just no tablet mode... ive researched it properly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31959597&postcount=16
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Meaning it will just mirror your phone's display on the larger screen, without changing resolution or utilizing available optimizations like tabbed web pages in the browser, split screen view in email etc.
Good to know it at least still functions somewhat compatibly I suppose.
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Meaning it will just mirror your phone's display on the larger screen, without changing resolution or utilizing available optimizations like tabbed web pages in the browser, split screen view in email etc.
Good to know it at least still functions somewhat compatibly I suppose.
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I know, and thats just what I need
Hey folks, I've got a chance to buy a 16 gig blue version for $220, without a dock. With all your user experience and knowledge of this device, as well as what's currently on the market, is it worth purchasing?
I guess I'm just a little on the fence since I already have a nexus 7 but have been looking for something with a larger screen and have been trying to decide as to whether I should wait and see what the tegra 4 products will look like in the next few months.
* How far along do you think this product is concerning its life cycle? Meaning, will this hold up for another year or so or be obsolete and not get a klp update?
* Are you happy with it now that you've had it for some time or would you have gotten something different?
Thanks in advance for all your advice and suggestions!!!
Get it :good:
I'm on a custom rom, so it'll last me another while and I can flash whatever I like which gives me freedom. I suggest that you take unlocking/ rooting your device into consideration.
If you are goingt to wait for the newest hardware, you will wait forever: there is always something newer coming up
Thanks for the feedback. You're right about chasing new technology as there's always something newer and better around the corner. So long as there's continued support and development for this, I think i'll jump in for one.
Get it!
I love this bad boy! And for the price it's totally worth it!
Life previous post stated. Custom ROM and kernel. This thing is perfect!
I have nothing negative to say about this tablet!
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So did you end up getting it?
I did get it, thanks to all of your recommendations. I'm pleased so far with it but I definitely want to get my hands dirty with it and really get to flashing and tweaking. I only bought the tablet and it came with the usb/30 pin cable so I do need to get a wall wart for it.
Wish me luck and thanks again!!!
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Get it :good:
I'm on a custom rom, so it'll last me another while and I can flash whatever I like which gives me freedom. I suggest that you take unlocking/ rooting your device into consideration.
If you are goingt to wait for the newest hardware, you will wait forever: there is always something newer coming up
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absolutely true, but a thing is to pine for the newest hardware, another thing is to blindly suggest an EOL platform.
tf300 is a sweet tablet but asus is phasing it out, this mean that on one side yo get some nice offers, on other hand you wont get any more official updates (probabily 4.2 but its not sure) and even xda developers will be jumping ship when they'll buy newer stuff in time.
I think that one should get a whole picture before buying it.
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I did get it, thanks to all of your recommendations. I'm pleased so far with it but I definitely want to get my hands dirty with it and really get to flashing and tweaking. I only bought the tablet and it came with the usb/30 pin cable so I do need to get a wall wart for it.
Wish me luck and thanks again!!!
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Have fun!
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absolutely true, but a thing is to pine for the newest hardware, another thing is to blindly suggest an EOL platform.
tf300 is a sweet tablet but asus is phasing it out, this mean that on one side yo get some nice offers, on other hand you wont get any more official updates (probabily 4.2 but its not sure) and even xda developers will be jumping ship when they'll buy newer stuff in time.
I think that one should get a whole picture before buying it.
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Absolutely true, but that is also the case with The Latest The Greatest. As long as there is plenty development (which there is for this platform with blokes as sbdags, surdu_petru & xplowild) one can have some fun for quite some time.
For example: with CM one can enjoy 4.2.2 already now
Did think it was that easy.... had the tablet for 6 months and didn't bother unlocking or rooting cause it looked annoying, can't believe I didn't do it earlier now. I wouldn't say its a completely new tab experience, but I can say Im not thinking about getting s nexus 10 anymore. So if you feel your infinity isnt on par... unlock and root. It's worth it.
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Did think it was that easy.... had the tablet for 6 months and didn't bother unlocking or rooting cause it looked annoying, can't believe I didn't do it earlier now. I wouldn't say its a completely new tab experience, but I can say Im not thinking about getting s nexus 10 anymore. So if you feel your infinity isnt on par... unlock and root. It's worth it.
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I couldn't agree more. Actually I was in the same position and state of mind... You know, all about "what about my warranty etc.".
By the end, I got pissed not using the TF700 just because it was laggy and not as expected. The basic thought was just that I bought a device for 700€, I just need to use it at it's utmost, or at least as I would like to use it.
I took the risk to root, on CM10.1 Nightly. Well, that was quite fast and now it's a new tablet. As Jojo said it definitively worth the switch to a custom rom.
For those who are afraid, as I was, please note that "custom rom" can no more be related to "unstable and testing". There is really reliables and stables release from highly qualified programmers (CM10,AOKP/AOSP, CROMI....).
Unless you only use the tablette to listen music without touching I really recommend to jump on a CRom.
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Did think it was that easy.... had the tablet for 6 months and didn't bother unlocking or rooting cause it looked annoying, can't believe I didn't do it earlier now. I wouldn't say its a completely new tab experience, but I can say Im not thinking about getting s nexus 10 anymore. So if you feel your infinity isnt on par... unlock and root. It's worth it.
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Anyone who thinks that the nexus 10 is a good replacement for the infinity is nuts. I work in a tech store and have access to the nexus 10 and the ipad 4 (or ipad retina), the infinity dances circles around them and is way more productive. The infinity can replace laptops, unless you need high end software to edit videos, pictures, or data (stats software). The development on the infinity also rivals any other device out there. If you install CROMI you will understand, it has better support and updates than any other ROM out there. It also squashes them in terms of performance. At this point no software on my infinty is stock other than apps, and i couldnt be happier. Not many devices have a custom bootloader, kernel, governors, scheduler, ROM, theme, and UI mods that work to create a comprehensive and kickass system.
Agreed
I am with you, I only had my tablet for a month or two before not being able to stand it. But once I put CleanRom on it, it flies. Makes it worth it all the more, and those who have not done it yet, are missing out. However, before doing anything make sure you spend lots and lots of time looking up on how to do so!!!
Tylor
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I am with you, I only had my tablet for a month or two before not being able to stand it. But once I put CleanRom on it, it flies. Makes it worth it all the more, and those who have not done it yet, are missing out. However, before doing anything make sure you spend lots and lots of time looking up on how to do so!!!
Tylor
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Agreed.
I lasted 6 weeks and got pissed off with the constant native browser crashes..several sites that I frequent have Flash and only the native browser supports it properly. Didn't care about the warranty really, it is only for a year and it looks like I've got a decent device.
After I got over the "scared to break something", it was quite easy. Now just to keep up with the CROMI updates. It doesn't take long to patch at least.
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Agreed.
I lasted 6 weeks and got pissed off with the constant native browser crashes..several sites that I frequent have Flash and only the native browser supports it properly. Didn't care about the warranty really, it is only for a year and it looks like I've got a decent device.
After I got over the "scared to break something", it was quite easy. Now just to keep up with the CROMI updates. It doesn't take long to patch at least.
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Lol... Yeah you'll get used to my updates
That'll be it for another week hopefully
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Lol... Yeah you'll get used to my updates
That'll be it for another week hopefully
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Apparently!
I noticed that you went from 3.4.2 to 3.4.4 this afternoon!
Great work!
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Apparently!
I noticed that you went from 3.4.2 to 3.4.4 this afternoon!
Great work!
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:silly::victory:
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Agreed.
I lasted 6 weeks and got pissed off with the constant native browser crashes..several sites that I frequent have Flash and only the native browser supports it properly. Didn't care about the warranty really, it is only for a year and it looks like I've got a decent device.
After I got over the "scared to break something", it was quite easy. Now just to keep up with the CROMI updates. It doesn't take long to patch at least.
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So I am in the same boat, 99% ready to root for the same reasons.....Can I ask which method/instructions you ended up using?
CJ
p.s. I am running JB 4.1.1 - 10.4.4.25-20121228
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So I am in the same boat, 99% ready to root for the same reasons.....Can I ask which method/instructions you ended up using?
CJ
p.s. I am running JB 4.1.1 - 10.4.4.25-20121228
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This thread has it all Also, refer to Post 2 in that same thread for additional stuff.
I think by the time I gathered everything, read as much as possible, it took about 2 hours from start to finish.
There's also a youTube video in that thread. The software that he used was much easier in my opinion.
Splitz300 said:
several sites that I frequent have Flash and only the native browser supports it properly.
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If you're having Flash issues, try Boat Browser. Flash works perfectly. It's nice to watch a CNN stream nice and smooth in Flash on this big screen.
I received the email this morning to finalize my order.
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Same here. Finalized my order, now just have to wait for a shipping notification.
I just can't bring myself to do it. How are you guys spending 700$ to purchase something you know absolutely nothing about?
I'm confused... Did they retract all the specifications and pictures? ~
Based on the specs and the person at the helm, what else is there to know... It's just like buying the latest flagship from [Insert Phone Maker Here].
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I just can't bring myself to do it. How are you guys spending 700$ to purchase something you know absolutely nothing about?
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daijizai said:
I'm confused... Did they retract all the specifications and pictures? ~
Based on the specs and the person at the helm, what else is there to know... It's just like buying the latest flagship from [Insert Phone Maker Here].
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The key difference is that we usually have reviews (or at least hastily done hands-on previews) in hand before forking over money for other flagships. Nobody has a review on this yet.
Sure, reviews aren't perfect but they answer a LOT of the questions that we all have about this thing. Face it, Essential's communication has been pretty poor leading up to right now. And specs aren't everything.
Example: If Essential says "Our phone runs Android well and it's buttery smooth", would you trust that as much as if any other reputable reviewer said the same thing?
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I'm confused... Did they retract all the specifications and pictures? ~
Based on the specs and the person at the helm, what else is there to know... It's just like buying the latest flagship from [Insert Phone Maker Here].
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You're saying every flagship phone is exactly the same. Pick something with an 835 chip and everything else is identical; picture quality, battery life, screen quality, warranty support.... list goes on.
Nobody other than Essential employees know how the camera performs. You're putting a lot of weight into Andy Rubin's name being involved and he really has done nothing to earn that weight, in my opinion.
I'm not getting rid of my Pixel XL just yet. If the Essential sucks (I really don't think it will), it just goes on Swappa, I keep using the XL and wait for the new one to come out. I can honestly say that I haven't been as excited about a phone release as I am about the Essential in a long, long, time. The screen real estate is absolutely beautiful.
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I just can't bring myself to do it. How are you guys spending 700$ to purchase something you know absolutely nothing about?
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True! i don't even know the full specs of this phone.. Lol
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I'm not getting rid of my Pixel XL just yet. If the Essential sucks (I really don't think it will), it just goes on Swappa, I keep using the XL and wait for the new one to come out. I can honestly say that I haven't been as excited about a phone release as I am about the Essential in a long, long, time. The screen real estate is absolutely beautiful.
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They have a 15 day return policy if you buy from Essential in the US. I'm probably gonna buy but only because of the 100% money back (and free return shipping) policy.
I forked over the money.. Looking forward to something new!
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I forked over the money.. Looking forward to something new!
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Same here. Been with HTC since the M8 and Samsung before that. Was going for the Pixel 2 this year until this came out.
Willing to give them a try.
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I just can't bring myself to do it. How are you guys spending 700$ to purchase something you know absolutely nothing about?
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15 day return policy
I'm all in. As other's noted, 15-day return policy. If it sucks, it goes back.
Hardware wise I think it will perform, and I think android will operate fine. Just my belief based on who's doing this thing.
My only hesitation before pulling the trigger was how long it will take to have developers putting a rom together that I can abandoned all tings Google. I'm currently on a Nexus 6p with no GApps, running a secured kernel and ROM, FDroid, Amazon, and side loading for apps. I want to get to the same place on this sucker. I'm not developer enough to make my own ROM. Though the idea of building from source seems like a fun challenge.
I think my biggest hesitation is in how they worded the return policy. "Disabling security features" warrants denied return. I wonder if this means the device will be permanently altered by unlocking the bootloader - eg.. Sony with wiping the TA partition permanently degrading photo quality, or Samsung and the knox crap.
Obviously I wouldn't unlock the bootloader in the 15 day return window - but I want to be able to unlock the bootloader at SOME point with the option to put it back to stock without marring the device.
So many questions, so few answers..
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You're putting a lot of weight into Andy Rubin's name being involved and he really has done nothing to earn that weight, in my opinion.
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He's done nothing? He only co-founded the biggest cellular phone operating system ever. Besides that, also co-founded another couple of million/billion dollar companies. I would put a little weight, maybe more than a little into something he has touched. Just my opinion.
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You used Android under his ownership?
And the sub-companies under playground global are not exactly super successful.
I wouldn't say his name brings a whole lot to the table
Bought mine today. Ships within a week w/ 2-3 day Fedex; i'm hoping for delivery by Fri 25th, but i haven't gotten that email yet. No cases for it... hmm. I think they might be taking the durability factor a little far for there to be no cases available at launch. But I for one think Rubin's name brings a lot to the table and will be very surprised if the phone he's essentially (ha) staking his career on is a flop.
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You used Android under his ownership?
And the sub-companies under playground global are not exactly super successful.
I wouldn't say his name brings a whole lot to the table
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We get it, you're skeptical. You're more of a wait and see type of guy. Smart move.
Yeah I broke down and confirmed my reserved pre-order. If I hate it, I'll return it. A good 7-10 days of steady use should determine if it's a keeper. I think selling on swappa is not the way to go as I believe initial resale value will be low unless reviews are overwhelmingly positive. Time will tell!
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Does anyone know if this camera has portrait mode. May seem silly but I don't won't to lose that feature I have with my op5
Anyone know if the Sprint version is unlocked?