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[Q] I can't take it anymore...Should I?

Alright...I have been waiting and waiting for a good android tablet...and right now...the Xoom is the best thing out... I know we have a few more options coming down the road...but it is just bugging the hell out of me that I don't have one yet. I just want to know from those that have a Xoom...was it worth it? Do you plan on selling it, returning it, or trading it in for another HC Tablet like the new Galaxy Tabs(sexy),G Slate...HTC whatever....or any others coming down the pipeline? Are the bugs too much to deal with....is the SD card slot not working...that irritating ...does no USB hosting make you want to throw it out the window...Do you get way too many FC's....are you really sick and tired of being shown Mobile Versions of web sites???? I guess my real question is....Are you happy?

Oh...I plan on surfing the web, watching some movies on an upcoming flight, playing some games, checking emails...ummm...facebook...twitter....normal stuff....if that helps at all

It's been one week now and l'm happy with it so far.

mh333 said:
It's been one week now and l'm happy with it so far.
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Anything that just totally pisses you off sometimes?

jlewis11 said:
Are the bugs too much to deal with....
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It's pushing it.
is the SD card slot not working...that irritating ...
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It's irritating that what I paid for is not what I got.
does no USB hosting make you want to throw it out the window...
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Personally, no. But I could easily see how it could.
Do you get way too many FC's....
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YouTube and the Browser constantly FC. It's ****ing annoying.
are you really sick and tired of being shown Mobile Versions of web sites????
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The browser is nothing short of crap. And other browsers I've tried are even worse... usually in terms of a horrid UI.
I guess my real question is....Are you happy?
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The jury's still out. If I get to day 85 of my 90 day Costco return policy and nothing has changed, it's going back. If Motorola/Google can iron out all the bugs, and I see a steady stream of high quality tablet apps, then I'm keeping it.
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Anything that just totally pisses you off sometimes?
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It's totally impossible to watch a YouTube video while browsing. If you click on YouTube it takes me like 5+ random clicks on anything to hopefully open the YouTube app... and then I pray that it doesn't force close... and if it does open I have to pray it doesn't freeze midway.

I'm with MikeyMike01, but also include the cold ghosting. I posted a question if anyone else noticed it, but only received a single reply saying they didn't notice it. I find it hard to imagine only my unit has the issue though.
I've also had issues with it taking sometimes 20-30 seconds for the screen to turn on after hitting the unlock button on the back.
I initially really liked it, but am now considering getting an ipad2.
I'm contemplating whether the 15% restocking fee is worth it (I got mine at Amazon)
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Get it from costco (wifi version) they have a 90 days return policy, anything better comes out during the 3 months am taking it back.

techniq35 said:
I initially really liked it, but am now considering getting an ipad2.
I'm contemplating whether the 15% restocking fee is worth it (I got mine at Amazon)
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My exact thoughts... sans restocking fee, since I got it at Costco.

kindiboy said:
Get it from costco (wifi version) they have a 90 days return policy, anything better comes out during the 3 months am taking it back.
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This man speaks the truth.
I am glad that costco gave me a 3 year warranty... however I'm sure I'll upgrade within the first year lol.
Anyways, I love this tablet, I'm very happy I got it, and like he said costco gives you 3 MONTHS to decide if you like it or not! That's ridiculous! They accept returns no questions asked . I've returned the xoom twice and I didn't get asked a single thing. (unlucky with dead pixels)
edit: and costco gives you a free gel case!

At first I was going to buy the galaxy tab 10.1 (original version), but when I did see wifi only Xoom in stock at B&H I couldn't resist and ordered it. I just couldn't wait any longer.
After 3 days with it, I can say I'm happy with it.
Yesterday I started having hangs on the stock browser, I could scroll and zoom, but I couldn't click on any links. Only restart helped. So I removed the apps I installed yesterday and it seems the problem went away. So it seems the browser problems are somehow related to some apps that cause problems.
I haven't had any other problems.

bought it at Costco as well. Actually I'm replying this message on it.
I don't have any major issue with it and I love it! Don't care much about the motor gel case though.

damn thanks guys. Real honest answers....I couldn't wait...well I could but I got really aggravated at the end of the day from general life BS...so I ran out and picked one up to make up for it....Plus youngotta see for yourself. Any ways right? I had a boat load of Best buy reward zone certificates so I picked one up there...I figure I will play with it for a week and return it if I dont like it... but I feel like if I have any issues it will be more with honeycomb than the Xoom...and hopefully Google and Motorola will address them in the future. So far I'm liking it....I'm on it now.....here's hoping for a good experience or decent experience

my biggest complain so far is the screen. It just so washed out compare to my ipad. Heck, my Gtablet screen actually looks better (at the right angle of course). I love honeycomb though. It's a bit confusing at first, but now I don't think I can enjoy using a tablet with a different OS.
I got mine at costco also, so I'm not too worried about new tablets coming out. right now I'm very interested with the transformer. especially with its IPS screen. I just hope that it's built well like the xoom.

Despite the issues with the g2x

Whether you have any issues or not, (me personally none I love this phone)
Are you keeping your g2x?

smashpunks said:
Whether you have any issues or not, (me personally none I love this phone)
Are you keeping your g2x?
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original pre ordered G2x problems: decent Bleeding/reboot every few days
2nd G2x: HORRIBLE how can i say this better ..... FUGLY BLEEDING
3rd device on its way: possible bleed maybe reboot issue/wifi problem....?
4th G2x:......... maybe if the third one sucks
5th G2x...... i hope not
but yes im keeping it/them even if i have to exchange it for the next two years
alot of support behind the phone and a great community!

bought it with my employee discount
no returns for us
luckily i still have 1 discount left which i'll use on the sensation or the GS2. then my discounts reset in october.

Definately keeping it. I guess I was one of the lucky ones. I have not experienced any of the reported issues. My screen does have a slight bleed, but not highly noticeable . I already rooted and flashed Eagles_blood rom. Its only a matter of time until more roms and custom kernels are realeased, then we will really see what this phone is capable of.
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I bought the phone yesterday knowing that I had 30 days to make my mind up on it. While I've only had the phone for a little over 48 hours, so far all is good. Yes the screen bleeds but its not as bad some peoples. Frankly I dont often watch video on my phone nor do I use dark wallpapers so the only time I ever even think of the bleeding is during boot and when I check this forum (lol). No reboots yet, OS is faster than any phone I've ever used, and contrary to my expectations HSPA+ actually does provide a noticeable boost. What I'm monitoring closest now is battery life. So far it seems to be at least on par with my Vibrant which is something I can live with. Loving stock Android also. If things keep up at this rate I wont be taking it back in 28 days.

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Frankly I dont often watch video on my phone nor do I use dark wallpapers
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Well gingerbread has a black notification bar, so if you have issues with the top corners like i did you might change your mind about the bleeding being ok.

tr.slate said:
Well gingerbread has a black notification bar, so if you have issues with the top corners like i did you might change your mind about the bleeding being ok.
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I've checked screenshots with black toolbars and it wont be an issue for me. I keep the tool bar hidden anyway so the only time its even visible is if I have an app open in which case im focused on the content of the app not the notification bar. I'm sure there will be tons of themes with light notification bars anyway.

I have a black notification bar right now and the bleeding isnt noticeable.
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today i returned mine, i miss it already but the battery life was unacceptable, been using it for 10 days and it got slightly better, not to forget the backlight bleeding and the various bugs here and there.
Im going to pick up SGS2 once it's available here, although i despise the touchwiz but thank god we LauncherPro

I unfortunately had to exchange my first one for a new one. My original would randomly think the wired headset was connected when it wasnt. This rendered the phone basically useless. Plus no one else in these forums talked about a similar situation. So I exchanged mine for a new one. So far its good. Fingers crossed!
I wish everyone that decides to pass on the G2X for the sgs2 or sensation the best of luck! Coming from Sammy's first real attempt at trying to run with the big dogs, the VIBRANT, I can honestly say that while its a decent device to get started with in android, it leaves much to be desired. At the time of its release the galaxy s line had the best hardware then too. But that didn't mean sqaut in real world performance. Those things laughed at us everytime we opened the app menu!
Look at all the time people like SUPERCURIO put into voodoo, just to make that thing be half the phone it could be. And dont even get me started on updates! Froyo? Froyo? Did you say Froyo? I had froyo before it was even a wet dream in TMO's eyes here. If it wasnt for some great DEV's pulling together on that thing and making it what it should have been in the first place, I, along with half the people that bought a vibrant probably woulda nailed our genitalia to the floor in a burning building.
So you guys get a super duper AMOLED screen phone that you still cant see in the sun! Talk about how AWESOME that screen is inside the house. Go ahead, take it in, love it, embrace it! Your little injection molded plastic-ey POS may sound like the next best thing, but this guy read the book and bought the t shirt! #SAMSUNGNEVERAGAIN!
Just wait, you'll see. And BTW good luck with that htc boot loader, sensation fans. I'll sit back and watch from the sidelines with my #CYANOGENMOD G2X!

hanged_man said:
today i returned mine, i miss it already but the battery life was unacceptable, been using it for 10 days and it got slightly better, not to forget the backlight bleeding and the various bugs here and there.
Im going to pick up SGS2 once it's available here, although i despise the touchwiz but thank god we LauncherPro
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Your going to love all the mods you're going to have to do to get rid of the iphone lookin, battery hogging, hope you know how to root, because it will still run in the background and control everything. So yes, they dont like to release kernel code either.
Please dont take my ramblings as the spoken word. Sammy might surprise us and throw us a bone. But remember if you get one update thats all you should expect.
And for the record, HELL YEAH! I still have a sour taste in my mouth from that fricken phone!

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jdkackley said:
Your going to love all the mods you're going to have to do to get rid of the iphone lookin, battery hogging, hope you know how to root, because it will still run in the background and control everything. So yes, they dont like to release kernel code either.
Please dont take my ramblings as the spoken word. Sammy might surprise us and throw us a bone. But remember if you get one update thats all you should expect.
And for the record, HELL YEAH! I still have a sour taste in my mouth from that fricken phone!
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My name's S0NiX, and I approve of this message.

I returned for now and will be getting it again in a few months, regardless of the upcoming Sensation/GS2.

ciscothek said:
I have a black notification bar right now and the bleeding isnt noticeable.
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Eaglesblood rom has black notification, and you barely see it. I see it a little in youtube, cwm and bootup. But only in complete darkness.
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Galaxy S 4G for free

T Mobile has a web only deal for a Samsung Galaxy S 4G for free ending today.
For those of you that have one, can you please let me know what you think of it ? I guess it ends today so they can clear stock for the HTC sensation, but I dont think I'll be able to afford one of those, so this seems like a sweet deal.
some honest opinions would be appreciated, good or bad.

grifforama said:
T Mobile has a web only deal for a Samsung Galaxy S 4G for free ending today.
For those of you that have one, can you please let me know what you think of it ? I guess it ends today so they can clear stock for the HTC sensation, but I dont think I'll be able to afford one of those, so this seems like a sweet deal.
some honest opinions would be appreciated, good or bad.
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I bet its the same deal they did with the g2, you have to make a new plan/new line of service with a web plan to get the special deal. They wouldn't even work with me on the phone over it.

grifforama said:
T Mobile has a web only deal for a Samsung Galaxy S 4G for free ending today.
For those of you that have one, can you please let me know what you think of it ? I guess it ends today so they can clear stock for the HTC sensation, but I dont think I'll be able to afford one of those, so this seems like a sweet deal.
some honest opinions would be appreciated, good or bad.
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Get this phone cause I'm telling you ya won't regret it. Ever since one of the devs(drhonk) got the phone to test on things are blowing up around here(I mean that in a good way ) we have cwm and a few roms and alot of Tweaks that are gonna make that sgs4g fly and all your friends are gonna be like "wtf, I wish my phone would perform like that". Lol. But yes I would definitely recommended it especially if its for free. I mean come on that's a deal.
**edit** if what flyinbird93 says is true then that sucks I thought it was free upgrade when trading in your existing phone
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Yes, it's an online only deal, but it seems pretty awesome.
I'm giving up on Verizon since my home area is a known trouble spot, and they're letting me out of my contract for free.
So come on, be honest, let me know all the pros and cons...battery life ? Camera good ? Is Video chat any good ? Is the 4G service good ?

wow. didn't last long. out of stock already

grifforama said:
wow. didn't last long. out of stock already
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Too bad. I scored two for free with a new contract over mothers day weekend. Do not regret it at all. Get on the back order list off you can.
On the moon our weekends are so advanced they encompass the entire week

I'm trying to get my friend to get one but they are out of stock! Sucks!

There is no better phone, even for the 150-300 some could pay for it. I doubled my original speeds in one day just by grabbing the latest updates here. Trying to get my g/f to snag me another s4g for free during this deal for my daughter, its gonna be a family phone here, lol.

Got the same deal
They had this deal about a month and a half back. This is how I ended up with the phone. I switched over from sprint and am loving every minute of it. Not too big on the unlimited data but only 2gb of high speed cap they have in place but its cool. There is a lot going on with this phone right now to make it really bad ass, hell it is a beast completely stock.

i've had the SGS4G for a little over a month and i love it, and its gotten better the past few weeks with all the roms and other dev stuff coming out for it. it's prob just as good as the HTC Sensation for the value since you'd be paying a lot more for the Sensation now. the specs are pretty equal i think, the only thing is that it doesnt have a notification LED and no camera flash/LED either, but thats not too big an issue so i dont mind as much now.

Liquid Smoke said:
i've had the SGS4G for a little over a month and i love it, and its gotten better the past few weeks with all the roms and other dev stuff coming out for it. it's prob just as good as the HTC Sensation for the value since you'd be paying a lot more for the Sensation now. the specs are pretty equal i think, the only thing is that it doesnt have a notification LED and no camera flash/LED either, but thats not too big an issue so i dont mind as much now.
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I have no complaints about the phone myself. I was sad about the internal storage but once you fota fix that problem is solved. As far as notification light - I use Bali kernel which has BLN support. My four buttons on the bottom light up whenever I have a notification. The ext4 mod makes my phone super snappy and responsive and I can't wait until we get voodoo on top of that.
My co-worker used the Sensation over the weekend and said it seems to have some odd connectivity issues when making phone calls/texts/using data. http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/HTC-SENSATION-4G/Sensation-4G-Data-Connectivity-Issues/td-p/875585 Every phone has it's flaws but I hope it isn't plagued by bugs like the G2X (which is an AWESOME phone but just needs a software update).
Don't get me wrong, The Sensation is a beast but I'm not a big fan of Sense UI. I prefer Go Launcher or Launcher Pro. Heck I'd even use the stock Gingerbread launcher over Sense. If you try to run an alternate launcher over Sense it seems to bog the phone down (at least on pre-dual core phones). This probably wont be a problem once they unlock the bootloader though.

Let the results speak for them selves I mean were literally blowing other phone out the water thanks to this community.
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matthenry87 said:
As far as notification light - I use Bali kernel which has BLN support. My four buttons on the bottom light up whenever I have a notification.
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Can you point me in the right direction for this mod? I have frost bionix running, and this mod would just be the icing on the cake. Thanks!
Also, I took advantage of this deal and now my dad will have one of these awesome phones just in time for fathers day. We got the 200 mb data free for a year too. If you take advantage of this deal, make sure to call and ask for free data/10.00 off your data (if you want more than 200 mb)
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Sure. The kernel that bionix comes with has bln support. You need to download the bln app from the market. To make it work you need to push a file to /system/lib/hw. You can find a link to the post that has this file on the bali kernel's thread. It's the fix by chadster I believe.
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Thanks for the info! I appreciate the quick response.
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What are your thoughts on ICS?

Pretty amazing, is what I got out of it. Any comments or thoughts? What couldve been done better? Overall thoughts?
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My thoughts are im glad I got my TBOLT out of contract so I can buy the Galaxy Nexus with a 2 year plan =D

I like the look of it and I am very excited for when it gets to the T-Bolt. My only complaint is I don't agree that the on screen buttons are more useful than the capacative buttons we have. I also just prey to god they release the AOSP code soon because I WANT MOAR!

I didn't get to watch the video because of class, but from what I read from engadget's live blog, I am excited. Honestly, I am a little surprised that I didn't see it running (from the pictures mind you) on a tablet. The NFC sharing app is heaven sent for me. I just wish people would adopt it more. Maybe with Google backing it more, other people *cough* will start implementing into their devices.

I enjoyed watching the stream even though it was low quality. Overall ICS looks great, opens up so many doors to what can be done and will come. SDK released tonight. Be nice when the full source is out so the Devs can start cooking..
I agree with muerteman about the buttons. I like the buttons on the bottom and not all on screen..
The people app reminded me of windows phone, and the swipe to remove items from the screen reminded me of webos. I really like the swipe feature on my touchpad, so that makes me happy to see it coming to ICS.

I can't wait for this device! My wife is probably taking my TBolt and I'm buying the Nexus off contract! ICS looks load nicer than GB that's for sure!

it was especially great that i was watching via my tbolt in my car dock while driving to work, and almost crashed when they I saw them going into "oh yes, facial recognition lockscreen"

Oh and P.S. I posted the Roboto font from ICS in the TBolt Themes & Apps section if you want it! It's quite nice!

Yea idk about the lockscreen thing. I'd be worried about what happened at the presentation. That for some reason my phone wouldnt recognize me. There better be some password backup (which I am sure google has thought of), or alot of people will be really mad. I want Tbolt ICS, im so giddy to try it out these next few weeks before the source drops will be torture. Atleast they confirmed they will open source this though, won't be anything like trying to get Honeycomb on the G-Tablet. Hmm, speaking of that I can't wait to see what this does with tablets. Hopefully I'll be running in on my tablet and my thunderbolt before the end of next month. Sorry for the long winded post, my mind is running while I lay in bed unable to fall asleep.

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Yea idk about the lockscreen thing. I'd be worried about what happened at the presentation. That for some reason my phone wouldnt recognize me. There better be some password backup (which I am sure google has thought of), or alot of people will be really mad. I want Tbolt ICS, im so giddy to try it out these next few weeks before the source drops will be torture. Atleast they confirmed they will open source this though, won't be anything like trying to get Honeycomb on the G-Tablet. Hmm, speaking of that I can't wait to see what this does with tablets. Hopefully I'll be running in on my tablet and my thunderbolt before the end of next month. Sorry for the long winded post, my mind is running while I lay in bed unable to fall asleep.
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agreed it does look to have its flaws, but it really makes me excited to see alot of the same actions i know and love from my tab 10.1 being done on a smaller faster and better scale

I LOOOOOOVED ICS and i cant wait to get it on my TBOLT!!!! and i cant wait to sell my TBOLT and buy myself that nexus!!!!

I watched the YouTube stream, and when it didn't recognize his face it switched to the pattern unlock before they cut away. So there IS a fall back. This is my next has a video up showing it, it looks great and seems very quick.

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agreed it does look to have its flaws, but it really makes me excited to see alot of the same actions i know and love from my tab 10.1 being done on a smaller faster and better scale
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Check Engadget they posted a video saying it actually works really well and extemely quickly. You also choose pin pattern or password as a backup =)
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What I worry about is how secure is it to have the notification drawer slide down when the phone is locked still. I don't remember if they said the phone stayed locked after tapping on a notification or not.
It would make sense that if the phone was locked and you slid open the drawer, tapped on a notification, and then hit back or home, it should bring you right back to the lock screen.

Shoot I have my TB all packed up and ready to ship once its sold on ebay. Nexus and ICS, here I come

does anyone here have a nexus 7?

First off, if I posted this in the wrong place, mods please remove. Thank you.
Okay well I finally ordered myself a nexus 7 and I just wanted to know if anyone here has one and your thoughts on it.
I posted here because I'm a sgs4g user and wanted to know if other sgs4g users had one.

gs_0523 said:
First off, if I posted this in the wrong place, mods please remove. Thank you.
Okay well I finally ordered myself a nexus 7 and I just wanted to know if anyone here has one and your thoughts on it.
I posted here because I'm a sgs4g user and wanted to know if other sgs4g users had one.
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I had the chance to use one for a week and in my experience it was fast as hell. Made my kindle fire look like a g1 lol. The only problem I had with it was the screen quality, which to me was pretty poor but for 200$ it shouldn't be expected to have top notch everything. Same thing with my Kindle. Looking to get the transformer prime with the HD screen.

Yes, I've read that the screen quality is not that great. But I do like the specs of it and I'm sure its worth it. Was the one you used rooted?

The screen quality is great... if you have the brightness set high enough. I still prefer the SGS4G's Super AMOLED screen.
The Nexus 7 is an incredible device though. It's absolutely the perfect size and weight for a tablet, and when paired with a keyboard and mouse, makes a very viable replacement for a laptop. Plus, it's ridiculously easy to root and flash ROMs on.

Nice, Thats sort of what i want to do with it because I dont want to carry my laptop everywhere i go. Ahh i can't wait to get my hands on mine. First thing I'm going to do is root it!

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Yes, I've read that the screen quality is not that great. But I do like the specs of it and I'm sure its worth it. Was the one you used rooted?
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No it was my cousins so I didn't want to root it. The screen was better at high brightness like stated above but I still found it lacking. But it handled everything I could throw at it without slowing down and while I was on Netflix it was good enough to catch up on my burn notice for the price you can't do any better. You'll love it, trust me

Ohh alright, thanks for the input guys. Sounds like I made a good investment.

I got one for my wife and she loves it. I've played with it a little and it is fast as hell. The screen is fine, especially with the brightness cranked up. It is bright enough that my wife has to dial it down when she is reading books on it. It is the perfect size and super portable. Build quality is very nice. I'm getting one for myself at Christmas.
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