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Hello guys!
AFAIK Sensation has 1 gb of internal storage memory and 768 mbytes of RAM. I hear people say that of that RAM, only ~170 mbytes are available to the user.
Do you experience problems with memory like when applications start to stutter when you start a few of them simultaneously and do you have to delete other apps to make room for new ones (because of ridiculously small internal storage)?
There are no ram issues with the sensation. I'm coming from a g2x which only had 512 and I always had free ram even when I had open everything I normally had open. I constantly had about 95 MB free. With the sensation I constantly have around 150 free with everything open. Someone once said here on the forums. If you constantly have a lot of free then its pretty much wasted ram. And there is 558 or something like that available. The rest is reserved for the gpu. That's the case on many phones and tablets now. They reserve some of the ram for the graphics processor.
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The only ram issues I ran into is after closing Firefox sense would reboot. I'm almost positive its a Firefox issue though. Because that is the only time I had that issue.
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Thanks! But what about the internal storage? Is 1gb enough or will I have to make compromises and delete rarely used apps to make room for new ones?
I haven't had any issues with internal storage yet either. You can alway just move apps to the sd card if you feel like you are losing space.
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komora said:
Thanks! But what about the internal storage? Is 1gb enough or will I have to make compromises and delete rarely used apps to make room for new ones?
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I don't use as many apps as others but I have about 30-40 apps installed and still have 910Mb of free space. Unless you install over 300 apps I think you'll be fine.
As far as the ram goes if I use a launcher other than sense I can get over 200mb free, compared to just over 100 with sense. I like sense alright, but the ram usage does make me a bit worried. Also I had the sense reboot quite a bit when moving between aps and even when waking up the phone, which I think may be a ram issue (though I certainly don't know it could be something else but I don't have to put up with a 5+ second load with other launchers) .
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ury2ok2000 said:
As far as the ram goes if I use a launcher other than sense I can get over 200mb free, compared to just over 100 with sense. I like sense alright, but the ram usage does make me a bit worried. Also I had the sense reboot quite a bit when moving between aps and even when waking up the phone, which I think may be a ram issue (though I certainly don't know it could be something else but I don't have to put up with a 5+ second load with other launchers) .
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Welcome to XDA. Is Sense still running in the background?
galaxys said:
Welcome to XDA. Is Sense still running in the background?
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Thanks.
I really can't imagine that it wouldn't be running in the background in some compacity as the lockscreen and contacts etc are all from htc. Only kinda negative thing is you loose the htc widgets. Also I somehow lost the ability to longtap on the homescreen to edit widgets, but I'm sure that is from me doing something wrong; I just haven't google foo'd the right answer yet.
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ury2ok2000 said:
Thanks.
I really can't imagine that it wouldn't be running in the background in some compacity as the lockscreen and contacts etc are all from htc. Only kinda negative thing is you loose the htc widgets. Also I somehow lost the ability to longtap on the homescreen to edit widgets, but I'm sure that is from me doing something wrong; I just haven't google foo'd the right answer yet.
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Even if you use a launcher sense will still be running in the background. At least that's how it use to be. I think you might be able to kill it at start up with a app like android assistant or something.
I'm waiting for unlocked bootloader so I can hopefully get rid of sense and tmo bloatware. Hopefully the wait won't be too long.
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ury2ok2000 said:
I'm waiting for unlocked bootloader so I can hopefully get rid of sense and tmo bloatware. Hopefully the wait won't be too long.
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+1 Although I dont have the bloat since I have an unbranded sensation
OK i rooted my sensation today and Disabled alot of the bloat including rosie (sense launcher) . so i went and installed launcher pro the launcher i usually use.. and it... is slow. Especially when opening the app draw. So i tried adw, even worse. Then i tried zeam, Geez zeam runs absolutely terrible. (they all run "ok" on the homescreens but the app draws no no no) so then i try the gingerbread launcher. and it runs ok but is starting to lag after i filled the screens with stuff.
Im really thinking of going back to rosie. What launchers are you guys/gals running
This phone desperately needs a custom rom
I'm running launcher pro with rosie disabled. Its pretty smooth for me. I only have beautifulwidget as my only widget running, perhaps you have some widgets slowing you down?
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I'm running launcher pro with rosie disabled. Its pretty smooth for me. I only have beautifulwidget as my only widget running, perhaps you have some widgets slowing you down?
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with no widgets its still a little laggy for me especially when opening or closing the app draw. i decided to just leave every htc app disabled expect the launcher and now the launcher is super smooth 1 light flick at it spins
I use either adw ex or he launcher. Either are good and fast.
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+1 for launcherpro & a question
I am using Launcher pro. It is faster and much more customizable than Sense - by far. However, I noticed something that I believe plays a part in how much faster launcherpro can potentially be.
I have a 16 gig card. When I open up all my gallery it takes the sensation a few seconds to load the preview folders. Then when I open up a folder that has 100 pics its kind of choppy displaying all the thumbnails.
I am using the multi-live wallpaper with launcherpro and I have 7 screens. All 7 windows have different pics from different folders on my memory card. When I used one of the HTC wallpapers (that are housed on the internal memory) There was a noticeable speed difference. When I went back to 7 different screens with 7 different pics the slight lag showed up.
Does anyone know where, in the internal memory, I can paste wallpapers or pics so that launcher pro is faster?
LauncherPro is much faster and smoother.. but I always end up going back to the Sense launcher because I miss the widgets... that clock widget is awesome with the flipping action, and the weather and music ones are beautiful. None of the alternatives come close.
I have used all of them and never had problems. Try force closing sense in settings.
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Don't laugh at this, but I literally own them all and the best one for now is spb shell. I almost can't believe it myself because I was disappointed in it for what I paid, but it just works well with this phone.
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Go ex with iPhone icons. No hiccups
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naw adw launcher works just fine on mine
I switched to Launcher Pro Plus due to Sense reloading whenever I back out of a game. I play heavy games and LPP hasn't given me any issues in the past few days since installing it.
simply_rell said:
naw adw launcher works just fine on mine
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+1........
Thank God for 3rd party launchers. I can't stand Sense and I have given it every chance as well. Apart from the extremely annoying frequent Sense reboots the phone lags and things feel slower than on my old Incredible. Just switching from Sense to LauncherPro without changing anything else I get back over 50MB of RAM. That's ridiculous, talk about bloat.
I still haven't s-off my phone yet but I'm starting to consider it. Especially when we get stable builds from Cyanogen.
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Are you crazy you don't like sense3.0 it runs smooth as glass on my inspire but if you don't use the widgets I can see why you would go for launcher pro. But your nuts if you don't root. I would have had that puppy rooted the minute it came out.
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Are you crazy you don't like sense3.0 it runs smooth as glass on my inspire but if you don't use the widgets I can see why you would go for launcher pro. But your nuts if you don't root. I would have had that puppy rooted the minute it came out.
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Inspire Sense 3.0 and Sensation Sense 3.0 (Stock) are two completely different beasts. The stock build for Sensation has some issues.
mobilehavoc said:
Thank God for 3rd party launchers. I can't stand Sense and I have given it every chance as well. Apart from the extremely annoying frequent Sense reboots the phone lags and things feel slower than on my old Incredible. Just switching from Sense to LauncherPro without changing anything else I get back over 50MB of RAM. That's ridiculous, talk about bloat.
I still haven't s-off my phone yet but I'm starting to consider it. Especially when we get stable builds from Cyanogen.
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Pretty funny. Buy an htc phone knowing it comes with sense. How about next time pass on a htc phone so you don't have to deal with bloat as you call it
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What about if you buy a phome for hardware... People do that with computers and dual boot linux etc because they are not a fan of windows
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I really like Sense 3.0, I just wish it was more optimized out of the gate.
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Pretty funny. Buy an htc phone knowing it comes with sense. How about next time pass on a htc phone so you don't have to deal with bloat as you call it
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I knew it came with Sense. My Incredible came with Sense and it was lightning fast. As much as I like it its too slow and buggy. Once they update it and hopefully improve things I might give it another shot.
Oh and this phone hardware is reason enough to buy the phone.
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im s-off but i dont want a custom rom i like what i have just want to theme my stock rom a little other than that it runs smooth as a babys ass lol......... maybe its those dump **** apps your installing
LauncherPro locks up my Sensation something fierce.
jam34 said:
Pretty funny. Buy an htc phone knowing it comes with sense. How about next time pass on a htc phone so you don't have to deal with bloat as you call it
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Personally, I like HTC's hardware. It's Sense I can always do without. I mean, c'mon! This is a forum for phone modding, not for keeping your phone like stock.
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If I can't install the apps I want then the phone is useless. Enjoy limiting what you install on your phone to keep running how you want.
I have been using ADW on it since I got it. I hate Sense and always have. To much eye candy for no apparent reason. Ill take function over form any day of the week.
By the way, I just switched everyone from the other thread regarding this same topic over to ADW from LP and gave them my settings. The 5 that did all agree that ADW is faster than LP with the correct settings. Also, the free version of ADW will not be as fast due to it not having a lot of the settings. You have to purchase ADW EX in order to feel the speed.
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Sense 3 is acceptable to me
But I prefer Google's original launch app
But LaunchPro and ADW are something makes wanna throw the phone right to the wall
Sense is just trash, period. Can't wait to get my CM7!
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I can't figure it out but my phone hates Sense. Even after I uninstalled the Good for Enterprise app which I thought was causing the issues Sense starts slowing down and then craps out after a little while. It literally restarts Sense after every app install or update or even uninstall. I don't think its a memory issue only because there's plenty free but it doesn't happen right after a reboot either. I can't figure it out but it definitely seems like something is leaking memory or corrupting Sense.
When is T-Mobile releasing our update? I'm good using LP for now but it'd be nice to have a proper functioning stock launcher as an option as well.
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I was running ADW EX for a few days. It was fast as ****, but I missed the Sense 3.0. Widgets and interface. My phone has no lag at all and works perfect with Sense as well. If it was laggy, I would definitely drop it for ADW. My brother uses Launcher Pro and is a big fan. To each his own.
Totally agree, to each his own.
For me ... this phone is totally usable with Sense...
Each launcher has it's pluses and minuses. There are quite a few alternatives to Sense widgets but none has completely done it for me. Same goes for HTC's apps, especially People/Phone and Email apps.
The major problem with Sense 3 was the many frequent Launcher restarts, which is almost solved now with the custom rom I'm using (CrystalPyramid), been using it for 3 days and it's been as fast as can be for me. I really can't be happier with my Sensation now.
The only two things I really miss about other launchers are changing home number of rows and resizable widgets.
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I was running ADW EX for a few days. It was fast as ****, but I missed the Sense 3.0. Widgets and interface. My phone has no lag at all and works perfect with Sense as well. If it was laggy, I would definitely drop it for ADW. My brother uses Launcher Pro and is a big fan. To each his own.
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I definitely have an app or something that is messing with Sense. It starts out well enough and then just craps its pants after a while. I would like to use it but can't if I want to maintain my sanity.
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kable said:
LauncherPro locks up my Sensation something fierce.
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Have you tried playing around with the Memory Usage and other options under LauncherPro's Preferences --> Advanced Settings menu?
I was already pretty happy with LP's performance on my phone, but a couple of experiments with those tweaks made it even better for me. Hopefully it'll make things a little rosier for you too? That is, if you're even interested in LP anymore
I would get the white screen with green HTC logo almost everytime I went out of an app so, started using Launcher Pro. Today just for the frell of it
I decided to download Go Launcher EX. I got say its 1, Free, 2, there are
loads of free themes and 3 customizable!
The guy at T-Mobile said that once this phone gets 2.3.4 and the HTC
update as well then Sense might not be so buggy.
Here's a link to view about the launcher above.
http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/productivity/go-launcher-ex_ragy.html
I currently have a Desire, considering getting a Sensation. The biggest problem with the Desire is the limited internal memory - only 512MB, which is also used by the OS itself. So there's very little memory for applications. There exist some solutions to move apps to SD, but they are not nice to set up and don't always perform best.
So my question is, is the 1GB memory on the Sensation enough for installing as many apps as you want? Has anyone hit the limit?
Thanks!
P.S. I'd also like to hear opinions from former Desire users that have already upgraded to Sensation. For example, the capacitive keys and the lack of a trackpad with an action button.
P.P.S. I just realized the topic should go to the Q&A section, but cannot delete this thread anymore...
I would say so! I have everything installed on my sensation that I had on my desire with A2SD and still have 529MB free space
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So my question is, is the 1GB memory on the Sensation enough for installing as many apps as you want? Has anyone hit the limit?
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the sensation actually has 2GGB of internal memory where 1GB is reserved for the system meaning you have appproximately 1GB for apps in practic. I find this more than sufficient
It ends up being 10x what the Desire had. Coming from the Nexus One, its definitely nice to not have to worry about space. If you put every app on the SD Card, you can fit about 1,000 apps. About 200 apps if you don't put any on the SD Card.
The trackball is missed a bit, but with it gone you realize how much space it was taking up. The touchscreen is better, and HTC has a little software snippit that's slows down the response rate so you can select text better.
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frederikh said:
the sensation actually has 2GGB of internal memory where 1GB is reserved for the system meaning you have appproximately 1GB for apps in practic. I find this more than sufficient
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Sensation has 4GB... 3gb are reserved.
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Hgaara said:
Sensation has 4GB... 3gb are reserved.
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Woah, that's a lot! Does it hint some possible bigger future updates (e.g. Ice Cream Sandwitch with Chocolate Topping and Caramel Almonds )
this question is mostly user preference, since it depends on how the user uses his cellphone. If a user is mostly a application geek or more like games then its not enough. And even if its not enough there is an APP2SD.
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Sensation has 4GB... 3gb are reserved.
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Look at the memory with an app like Titanium Backup. It's 1gig internal, 1gig external.
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frederikh said:
the sensation actually has 2GGB of internal memory where 1GB is reserved for the system meaning you have appproximately 1GB for apps in practic. I find this more than sufficient
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Yeah, a phone with more than 1gb worth of apps is like a closet with a bunch of **** in it you don't need. You can only use so many apps.
1GB with 3 in reserved? How do we get around this so we can use all 4GBs?
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1GB with 3 in reserved? How do we get around this so we can use all 4GBs?
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I'm sure the specs got bumped down to 2gigs (total). But with a ROM like CM7 or an AOSP build, which is much smaller than Sense, we should be able to reformat the internal memory and get 1.5gigs external, .5gigs internal.
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1GB is more than enough for me. I have 920mb left. I have lots of apps on the SD.
I used to have the desire. Correct me if i'm wrong but I remember only having 250mg for apps not 500! Since moving to my Desire hd and now the sensation I have no worries about running out of memory.
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I used to have the desire. Correct me if i'm wrong but I remember only having 250mg for apps not 500! Since moving to my Desire hd and now the sensation I have no worries about running out of memory.
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250? My wildfire only had 100 MB. Yes it seems ok for me and u can always use apps to sd
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My desire had only 100mb for apps. Sense gobbled up the vast chunk of the 512mb rom. Then there were the data and cache partitions as well.
By the way you cannot repartition the Sensation as the flash nand is emmc protected. I don't really understand the technical details but it boils down to the fact that the emmc security prevents it.
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Desire user here too, the storage alone was worth upgrading to the sensation, I haven't had the chance to use A2SD on the desire (I had the desire for 2 months), so talking stock, the difference is HUGE, I mean with desire I after installing just barely the basic stuff I use plus some games, I had 26mb or so free, with the sensation right now I have programs that I have no idea what they're for, many games, all while keeping firefox, opera, and several other programs on the internal storage for fast access, free MB : 767mb, so yeah HUGE difference
Thank you, guys! I'm almost convinced to upgrade now The last two questions whose answers will help me convince my wallet:
1) How was the feeling upgrading from Desire? Screen, performance, features?
2) Is it the right time now to upgrade? Is a much better device than the Sensation around the corner?
IMO, the Sensation is the best Android device that has ever come out. Samsung Galaxy S2 feels really bulky and plasticy (like all Samsung devices, including the Nexus S), and I hate their UI mods.
1. Deff. Yes
2. No every 3/6 month a better phone will come out..so buy your phone in the year 2020
Went from Desire to Desire HD to this. Desire HD has sane screen size as this but same resolution as Desire and I must say the screen on the DHD looks silly now. It just looks like it should fit more on the screen than it does.
Now on the Sensation I can use adw launcher with a 5x5 grid and it looks natural. On the last two phones it looked cramped and unpleasant.
The only issue is the handful of apps which can't deal with the higher resolution. I've got two right now which refuse to use any more than 3/4 of the screen. Hopefully the develops will get around to fixing them.
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Thanks, dr.m0x, that's a good point. I've also been wondering how apps deal with the qHD screen, as I had the fear that many of them would assume a 800x480 display.
Still, most (at least of the essential/popular) apps deal with the resolution, don't they? And how about games? Resolution seems more critical there, I guess...
Anybody else have this problem?
I absolutely love go launcher better than all the launchers I've tried, but for me it runs sluggish when I run it over Sense.
If you do have this problem, any way to work around it? Final question, how smooth is Go Launcher with senseless and cyanogenmod? Thanks!
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It lags terribly for me too
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I've run adw launcher & go launcher at the same time over sense . Smooth. No lag.
Maybe more free ram is needed? Try something like AMM ?
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No lag here. I am running it on InsertCoin 2.2.5 SSE ROM
smooth for me and i'm on stock.
Settings > applications > running services > menu > show cached processes
Look for sense. Sometimes it uses 90mb. Stop the service.
No problems so far.
Also, on sense, use a different scene and remove all the widgets.
Then use go launcher as default.
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smooth for me and i'm on stock.
Settings > applications > running services > menu > show cached processes
Look for sense. Sometimes it uses 90mb. Stop the service.
No problems so far.
Also, on sense, use a different scene and remove all the widgets.
Then use go launcher as default.
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Great suggestion. I'll try that out. Thanks!
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nicky041192 said:
smooth for me and i'm on stock.
Settings > applications > running services > menu > show cached processes
Look for sense. Sometimes it uses 90mb. Stop the service.
No problems so far.
Also, on sense, use a different scene and remove all the widgets.
Then use go launcher as default.
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Wow I've got so much useless crap that's in cached processes. How do I moderate that stuff?
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Search V6 SUPERCHARGER in xdadeveloper.The free ram keeps between 150~200mb in my phone after trying that .
I think that will help you a lot. ;-)
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I'm running GO Launcher EX with CM7 alpha 7. It runs much better then when I was running sense roms. With sense there just seems to be too much going on which just eats up the phone's processing power. I highly recommend CM7.
jayyo said:
I'm running GO Launcher EX with CM7 alpha 7. It runs much better then when I was running sense roms. With sense there just seems to be too much going on which just eats up the phone's processing power. I highly recommend CM7.
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Once CM7 releases a stable build, I'm all over it
It is stable. Just not quite complete, feature wise, that is.
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I agree.. CM7 with Go Launcher is really nice...
And no issues with CM7 as of yet. No lag and very stable and I love the fact of having so much free memory now. Sense has... since.... died for me...
It would be nice if the sensation came with 1gb of ram though instead of 768