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Some of you may or may not know ckisgen, the developer of the Royal Ginger rom for the glacier. If you don't know of him or his rom, head on over to the glacier forums and take a look at how popular him and his rom is. He is an unbelievable developer and would push the g2x to it's max. He has agreed to develop for the g2x if we can all get together to get him a g2x. So if everyone wants to see this phone reach it's full potential, lets get ckisgen a phone!
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You forgot to mention how much you have already donated.
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You forgot to mention how much you have already donated.
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Nothing has been donated yet. I want to start this thread to see if anyone is interested and then figure out how we would go about doing it. If everyone that is interested would say how much they are willing to donate, then we could figure out how to go about it. I have never done this before so I don't know if we just donate everything to him directly, or if there is someone highly trusted to gather all of the money for the phone and send it to ckisgen?
It's just a thought. He would be a great dev for this phone IMO. This thread is for everyones opinions and ideas about it.
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I have seen his work and I'm down!
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I have seen his work and I'm down!
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Count me in for $10
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In for $10
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I'm also in, but the amount will depend on how much money I have at the time.
I'm in also. Amount TBD
OUCH!! KFI=KANG BUREAU of INVESTIGATION
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I post here to expose all KANGs and calling them out. I have been a long time lurker of this forum. Currently they are too many KANG artists here on XDA diluting the quality of developers here. RoyalGinger, what kind of name is that? I've been following his KANG of CM7 for a while now. What has he innovated that wasn't already coded by Team Douche? People need to wake up to the fact that he simply re-compiles what Team Douche has already done. Now he's asking for donation so he can KANG Team Douche even more than what he's already done so with MyTouch 4G? Mark my word, he will NOT add any innovation to G2x forum if he "develops" for this phone. He will always "Kang" Team Douche's work again for G2x. If you guys want real innovation, donate to Team Douche instead of this "Kang" artist.
RoyalGinger, how cocky can one be by calling a CM7 kang as some kind of royalty. I would give him more respect if he calls it RoyalKang
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I'm sorry but you do not belong in this thread. And before you go talking bad about developers and falsely accusing them of kanging, maybe you should do some more research. I used both CM7 and Royal Ginger and my phone had much better performance and stability with Royal Ginger. How about you talk to ckisgen directly before trying to ruin his reputation for some reason that doesn't even exist.
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I'm sorry but you do not belong in this thread. And before you go talking bad about developers and falsely accusing them of kanging, maybe you should do some more research. I used both CM7 and Royal Ginger and my phone had much better performance and stability with Royal Ginger. How about you talk to ckisgen directly before trying to ruin his reputation for some reason that doesn't even exist.
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Haha, I love it when people claim how good the so call "kang artist" but without proof to back it up. He "optimized" CM7? What kind of "optimization" did he perform? Why do you need to optimize CM7 when it is already optimized? I am calling him out because so far he has not shown any proof he "wrote" code to optimize CM7 code. So show me what he did in the "code" to make RoyalKang better than CM7? Tweaking CM7 settings is not innovation. Now I throw the ball back to your court. Show me what he did to optimize Team Douche's work. This is open source correct? So your so call developer can show me his "code" that he optimized CM7 source code. Unless he shows people what he did to "optimize" Team Douche's code, I still stand by my claim. I love to be proved wrong, show me the code!
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Well KangExposer has a point. I never owned the G2 but looking at the Royal Ginger thread there is no source code. Isn't that a violation of XDA's GPL policy?
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Well KangExposer has a point. I never owned the G2 but looking at the Royal Ginger thread there is no source code. Isn't that a violation of XDA's GPL policy?
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This is a thread regarding the bringing over of a fantastic developer. All questions regarding a roms details should be directed to that roms developer.
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This is a thread regarding the bringing over of a fantastic developer. All questions regarding a roms details should be directed to that roms developer.
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This is a thread requesting *money* to support a dev who is making changes to the code made available freely and publicly by CM7, and then not publishing his 'optimizations' (that could theoretically be merged back into main CM7 if they're worth it)
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This is a thread requesting *money* to support a dev who is making changes to the code made available freely and publicly by CM7, and then not publishing his 'optimizations' (that could theoretically be merged back into main CM7 if they're worth it)
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+1.
Why not just directly contribute to CM7?
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This is a thread requesting *money* to support a dev who is making changes to the code made available freely and publicly by CM7, and then not publishing his 'optimizations' (that could theoretically be merged back into main CM7 if they're worth it)
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Can you tell me the name of a rom that isn't, or a dev that doesn't? Why doesn't everyone just donate to google then?
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What does "kang" mean?
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Kang basically means to steal someone's work and say it's your own.
I just wanted to let everyone know that this guy who thinks he knows everything, really knows nothing. He is someone who is unhappy with his life and is taking it out on these forums. First of all, if this was something that was true, CM would have taken him down a looong time ago! This guy has been trolling the forums talking down on the developers, and has absolutely no proof or facts to back up what he is saying. I was following his posts, and happened to see that ckisgen also saw one of his posts in a different forum saying RG is a kang of CM7.
Please read what ckisgen had to say, this alone is proof that this guy is talking out of his arse:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=109
Back on topic. We really need to get ckisgen over here! I have been rooting phones since the G1 and have NEVER used a rom on a phone that made it run as smooth and fast as Royal Ginger! And his kernels, unbelievable! He is an awesome developer. Not only does he make a great rom and kernel, he provides excellent support and really works hard to make everything perfect.
I love my new G2x, and cannot imagine it without Royal Ginger. This phone would become something nobody could ever imagine. Anything you would ever want in a vanilla Android rom, and from a developer.. ckisgen is the answer! I plan on having this phone for a while, and I'm sure a lot of you do as well. If when you bought your G2x and the T-Mobile rep or whoever you bought it from said for X amount of dollars extra we can make this phone a whole lot better and provide continuous updates and always be adding in the latest and greatest features, would you do it? I know I would.
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Well KangExposer has a point. I never owned the G2 but looking at the Royal Ginger thread there is no source code. Isn't that a violation of XDA's GPL policy?
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it is listed at the top of the OP and in his changelogs
vqt said:
it is listed at the top of the OP and in his changelogs
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still can't find it, but there is a lot in the OP
I jumped from the Vibrant to the Infuse, and I've noticed development here is a little on the anemic side. I've seen a few people discuss starting a bounty/reward for an Ice Cream Sandwich port and wanted to see if anyone else was down or interested.
If it's just me then I'll be quiet and mods can delete this thread.
Update: Please try to make reference to +1 or "Yes I'd contribute to an ICS Port" if you want this to happen. Finding developers is easy enough if we have the numbers and support from the community.
I will be content with an official GB at this point. ICS would be a great bonus but only if HDMI and Bluetooth work.
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i think this would be interesting to try out
You can't have your cake and eat it to....
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You can't have your cake and eat it to....
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On my birthday I did lol
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On my birthday I did lol
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On my birthday I did lol
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You can either have it or eat it. If you eat it you don't have it anymore.
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We did like a fundraiser to get devs phones. One didn't work with kernels, one did a **** ton of work but got bored with it, one posted sources on git hub but never showed up on the forum and one posted work that he did without a phone till he actually one and vanished.
If we put up,money the bounty is the way to go because we can put it up expecting only one piece of work and they can,get the money when it is complete.
I would like to see if someone can pm netarchy and razor950 and see if they still have the donated infuses, if they are interested, and if not, would they pass the phone along to someone who is.
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We did like a fundraiser to get devs phones. One didn't work with kernels, one did a **** ton of work but got bored with it, one posted sources on git hub but never showed up on the forum and one posted work that he did without a phone till he actually one and vanished.
If we put up,money the bounty is the way to go because we can put it up expecting only one piece of work and they can,get the money when it is complete.
I would like to see if someone can pm netarchy and razor950 and see if they still have the donated infuses, if they are interested, and if not, would they pass the phone along to someone who is.
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I'm game, zmattmanz, I guess you can test the waters and contact these devs to see if it's even possible. Then we can see who is willing to fork over some cash
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I'm game, zmattmanz, I guess you can test the waters and contact these devs to see if it's even possible. Then we can see who is willing to fork over some cash
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Pm.... I got razor950 #
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Pm.... I got razor950 #
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PMed. We need some folks to pipe up if they want this to happen though. I mean it's Ice Cream Sandwich, it's basically better than sex... right?
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PMed. We need some folks to pipe up if they want this to happen though. I mean it's Ice Cream Sandwich, it's basically better than sex... right?
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That would depend on the sex...
But yes ICS would be sweet!
I'm up to support a bounty.
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PMed. We need some folks to pipe up if they want this to happen though. I mean it's Ice Cream Sandwich, it's basically better than sex... right?
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I hate to break it to you but, ICS has been whored out to every phone BUT ours...it'd be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway
On a more serious note, I think once you get interest from the devs more ppl would jump on; if you dangle the possiblility of a confirmed ICS rom for our phones, we will get some fkn bounty money
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I hate to break it to you but, ICS has been whored out to every phone BUT ours...it'd be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway
On a more serious note, I think once you get interest from the devs more ppl would jump on; if you dangle the possiblility of a confirmed ICS rom for our phones, we will get some fkn bounty money
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Just pissed myself laughing at what you wrote. I sent one PM -- if anyone has any contact information start throwing it up or recommendations of people to contact.
I am working on building an ICS AOSP rom. It is slow going though as I've had other life issues going on. I bought a nexus 4g and just got ICS AOSP built and running on it yesterday as a first step just to help me with learning how everything fits together.
I'm just doing this for fun to learn how Android works, so I don't really expect fast progress. I do own two Infuses so I'm covered there. I do have to admit the possibility of a bounty would encourage me to move faster
I'll be spending a lot more time over the next few days working on ICS. I've got a kernel in the works, hopefully I can finish it in the next day or two and test it out.
That's good to hear fellas. Take your time, we Infuse owners know how to wait for something. (i.e. Official Gingerbread) Lol
If you need help ajerman ill be on irc later...been busy lately
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We did like a fundraiser to get devs phones. One didn't work with kernels, one did a **** ton of work but got bored with it, one posted sources on git hub but never showed up on the forum and one posted work that he did without a phone till he actually one and vanished.
If we put up,money the bounty is the way to go because we can put it up expecting only one piece of work and they can,get the money when it is complete.
I would like to see if someone can pm netarchy and razor950 and see if they still have the donated infuses, if they are interested, and if not, would they pass the phone along to someone who is.
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To netarchy's credit - he did talk on IRC with us, and saved me a TON of time in terms of Daily Driver development. He has never had a big forum presence - just look at the Ninphetamine thread, he was a major contributor to that kernel but only posted on the thread 11 times over its 2,900+ post life. Hacre (aka Ninpo) always did the release engineering portion of the work.
He got sick after QuakeCon which put him behind, and then real life stuff came up. It was disappointing, but at least we got some pretty good stuff out of his donated device even if it is not obvious to most users.
I'm going to try and shoot him a message (I don't think he checks XDA PMs any more, but I have other ways of getting in touch with him) to see if he is willing to give the device to a Cappy or Nexus kernel dev who wants to upgrade. (I would prefer if the device goes to someone with more time than I have to focus on it.)
razor950's device donation was unfortunate - he has a long history of saying "I'm helping you guys but don't have a device!" and then disappearing immediately after he receives it without a word. You have, IMO, no hope whatsoever of getting anything from him.
Ok guys So you own a SGS4g now what? Well lets just air out a few thing that get Devs absolutely fired up.
1) Requesting ROM features.
2) Ordering them to do something.
3) Repeatedly asking the same question.
4) Demanding
5) Complaining
6) Asking for a ETA on Alphas
7) Harassing
8) Threatening
I could keep going on about what makes them mad but there is already a thread about that. This thread is to Distract Noobs away from bugging the Devs by discussing ROMS with each other and answering each others questions that would normally bug Devs. Yes Devs are welcome here, but mainly this is thread to prevent Noobs from pestering the Devs about things that can be answered by other Noobs (or Google). Noobs feel free to ask, discuss, and converse away. Just remember flaming is bad so just don't do it. If you honestly don't understand the difference between positive criticism and negative then just don't criticise anyone. Better yet lets keep negativity to ourselves.
Lets get a few Questions out of the way.
Q) Does the SGS4g have an ICS ROM yet.
A) Yes There are several
Q) Who's fault is it if I brick my SGS4g?
A) YOURS, Obviously you failed to follow instructions.
Q) What's the difference between a soft brick and a hard brick.
A) One is ceramic and one is foam!! JK
DEFINITIONS you need know as a NOOB
NOOB A person only intent in serving on their own self interest.
Newb Person new to XDA
Member A person who has joined XDA
Dev Developer
RD recognised developer
MOD Modification/Moderator
ROM Read only memory
WIP work in progress
CWM Clock work mod recovery
Lol awesome and no offense but 8 threatening is worse than 1 lol just saying I'd rather have people request features than threatening me haha
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Lol awesome and no offense but 8 threatening is worse than 1 lol just saying I'd rather have people request features than threatening me haha
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True Enough LOL, Now only if people would use this thread. There Is something disturbing about a forum By noobs for noobs and first comment is from a DEV Oh well we will see if it works.
Who posted before me? I see no devs here lol just a couple of senior members
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Who posted before me? I see no devs here lol just a couple of senior members
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Fare Enough Lol.
Not a noob but... ICS for the 4g? OTA? Or a mod / port?
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Port. I wouldn't hold my breathe for Samsung to release it.
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Not a noob but... ICS for the 4g? OTA? Or a mod / port?
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Of course it will be a port dude ^^ and be patient and enjoy GB roms as I know team acid and kickass are doing perfect jobs on more even bigger things for us <3
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on OTA ICS well google, all the electronics companies, and the air carriers made an 18 month agreement to upgrade all devices made in the last 18 months that can be upgraded. As to whether or not they abide by the agreement is up in the air. We have to wait until they are ready to update our phone, aka when S2 sales fall, before we see an upgrade. Its all about keeping us from buying a competitors phone.
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on OTA ICS well google, all the electronics companies, and the air carriers made an 18 month agreement to upgrade all devices made in the last 18 months that can be upgraded. As to whether or not they abide by the agreement is up in the air. We have to wait until they are ready to update our phone, aka when S2 sales fall, before we see an upgrade. Its all about keeping us from buying a competitors phone.
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Motorola got around that by stating certain devices will not operate any better on ICS than GB. There is many ways to get around that agreement. If there wasnt none of them would have agreed to it.
Alright I'm starting to get weirded out by the misspelling in the thread title. OP, I'll hit the thanks button if you fix it.
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Alright I'm starting to get weirded out by the misspelling in the thread title. OP, I'll hit the thanks button if you fix it.
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Nice catch FB.
(off topic) I've been on IRC on and off all week and haven't found you FB lol.
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Alright I'm starting to get weirded out by the misspelling in the thread title. OP, I'll hit the thanks button if you fix it.
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I was going to say, it's kind of funny a guy starting a thread for "noobs" and he can't even spell discussion. Lol.
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There you go thanks. I tend to be a little sleep deprived when I can get a chance to steal the computer away from the kids.
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Motorola got around that by stating certain devices will not operate any better on ICS than GB. There is many ways to get around that agreement. If there wasn't none of them would have agreed to it.
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True but it's all about sales, if they feel that upgrading your phone will prevent you from buying the competitor, especially if the competitor releases a phone that is cheaper then their current market topper. It only makes perfect business sense if you can't sell them something new, prevent them from buying from someone else. If you have noticed that's why updates tend to always be released/leaked around the same time as a new competitors phone is released.
I would like to apologize to Lumin and fb I made and guide that was based off incorrect info, they stuck by there guns in correcting me. I was wrong as happens sometimes. The guide should be removed soon.
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No need to apologize. Just glad you finally listened
I am not about to let someone brick their phone. Just because I was stubborn.
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For those now on ICS
I have found an awesome new version of the XDA app, no I didn't develop it I found it.
It is an ICS themed blue XDA Developers APK Developed by Whiskey103.
It is the free version but if you are OCD and love colors to match then here you go.
Click here:laugh:
Scott had locked both of his threads thanks to a few xda members who had problems, and decided to take it out on him.
I think those people who blamed him should apologize, instead of being selfish and ruining for us all.
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Scott had locked both of his threads thanks to a few xda members who had problems, and decided to take it out on him.
I think those people who blamed him should apologize, instead of being selfish and ruining for us all.
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Yeah congratulations morons
*golfclaps*
I'm amazed at how some people can act like little children.
I never used any of Scott's work before but I've heard he turned out some pretty kickass stuff.
*sigh* People will never learn.
When people ignore mods telling them to knock it off, you know it's not going to end well.
Maybe a timeout for a day or two will let cooler heads prevail in the end.
I understand, if I was in Scott's position I would probably do the same. I just thinks it's funny how things clearly say what to do, and someone still messes it up.
I just sucks that people have to take it so far as to blame the dev for not doing something. When it for one flashing any thing has always been at your own risk, and two getting pissed off, and posting a nasty thread instead of just asking for help politely.
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Scott had locked both of his threads thanks to a few xda members who had problems, and decided to take it out on him.
I think those people who blamed him should apologize, instead of being selfish and ruining for us all.
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NOOOOOOOO! Cant we kust kick those retards off XDA, Scott please come back!
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NOOOOOOOO! Cant we kust kick those retards off XDA, Scott please come back!
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I'm pretty sure he is on his rom forums, maybe, just maybe if those people apologize, and we all ask nicely he may come back.
His work is great, I mean the s3 forums are donating to get him a phone. That alone should say something.
Now we are down to, we'll one sense rom that is kept up. And our aosp roms which can't progress much more without source.
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This totally blows. His roms were great and that's all I rocked since the very beginning. I can't blame him at all. Hopefully within time maybe he can return. There are plenty of people that are greatful for his time and work.
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I agree... Ban them, god I hope Scott comes back, one of the only reasons to keep this phone. I was worried and stated that this could happen, I saw it in the Vivid thread.
I hope he reads this and realizes that there are way more that appreciate his work more then complain about it. If he did leave I can't say I blame him, just hope it doesn't happen
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So I have a few choice words that I think this entire forum should read, but its mainly directed to whomever was talking crap about Scott. And I don't know who it was. And I apologize for the occasional profanity, but its stuff like this that really hits home for me.
As developers, we try to enhance the user experience of our phones for the good of the community. We don't get anything out of developing besides the occasional donation that someone gives us since they like our work. We aren't forced to do the work that we do. I can turn around right now and cease all development on the two ROMs I do (AOKP and Evervolv) for this phone. But I don't. Want to know why? Because of all the people in the threads saying "Wow, this ROM is awesome! Thanks Rohan!" and "This made my phone really awesome! Thanks!". If I didn't have those people then I wouldn't feel like updating the ROM. Even if you aren't using my ROMs and you drop in to say "This looks awesome, though I will wait for more stability!" That feels good too since you know someone still liked your work.
When you have someone calling you "selfish" and "annoying" it gets to you. When you put your work out, you want it to be the best. When it isn't the best, you try to make it the best. Thats why I and every other developer on XDA update and fix bugs. We want the ROM to be the best it can be. Thats why I stay up regularly till 2 AM looking up new Android features and the Platform Guide on the android developer site. I want to become a better developer for the community. Not for myself, but for the community. When you have someone degrading yourself, you feel like ****. And when you don't feel good about your work, you feel like the community is not enjoying your work. At that point it becomes a "why bother even updating this" sort of thing.
So when someone is being an asshat in the forums against you, it hurts. If you think that putting these ROMs out benefits us, the developers in any way besides the infrequent donation, you are sorely mistaken. We put these ROMs out for the community. I enjoy making ROMs for the community because I like to see all of the "Great job!" posts in my thread. It vindicates my work and proves me right that I can indeed make a ROM people like. Sure, the donations are an added plus and they help as well.
And now onto the "selfish" part of that statement. Are. you. effing. kidding. me. Seriously? You call us selfish. After staying up late hours to get a ROM out for YOU, you turn around and call us selfish? I dont even know what to say to that statement. We are not "selfish." You think putting our name onto a ROM is the best prize in the world? Why the flying f*** would we need that? So that people know my name? Are you effing kidding me?
So whomever it was, GTFO. The work that we do as developers benefits nobody but the people of these forums. We, the developers help make XDA how great it is. If you don't want to deal with developers, please, go back to stock. We don't need you to run our ROMs.
And to the rest of you, thank you for showing your support. Its a sad day when someone as nice as Scott is lost due to a few spoilt brats in the forums. And please, if you are using a custom ROM and you are enjoying it, tell your developer that you like it. Tell them that this phone became better because of their work. I promise you that we read the posts when we have time. And whenever we do it makes us feel a bit more warm and fuzzy inside.
/endrant
+1 for hoping Scott ignores the bullies and comes back. His work has made a good phone great for me!
-- Jon
Awesome post dude agree 100%
Also hint hint the DB is the one posting in your aokp thread.
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Son of a ......
This is why you can't have nice things. Fraking whiners.
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So the little whiney, self-entitled b!tches of xda strike again. Seriously, f*ck all of you little twerps that posted anything disrespectful to Scott. He's amazing, and makes an amazing ROM and you should all be ashamed of yourselves for driving him away. I swear to god, I hate what xda has become. there are only a select few that put in any hard work for the rest to reap the benefits of, and there are always a sh!t ton of brats who think that they paid for these ROMs when they paid for their phones. It doesn't work that way, you sniveling little d!ckheads. These devs don't work for the manufacturers, the carriers, or xda- they do it FOR FREE, FOR US, because they kick ass, and they deserve nothing but respect from ALL OF US. Seriously, I am issuing a blanket F*CK YOU to every douche on xda who ever talked sh!t to or about any dev here.
I am going to go through his threads and anyone I see talking any sh!t to or about Scott is from here on out permanently banned from receiving ANY of my case giveaways.
Gunny, kleeman, rohan, or any of the other forum regulars that I interact with on a regular basis, if you would be so kind as to help point out who the offenders are it would be greatly appreciated.
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Son of a ......
This is why you can't have nice things. Fraking whiners.
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+1.
This thread MAY or may not be related.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1761429
And MAY or may not be the 3rd poster.
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This thread MAY or may not be related.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1761429
And MAY or may not be the 3rd poster.
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Yeah, that was the first one that grabbed my attention in the CleanROM SE thread.
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Yeah, that was the first one that grabbed my attention in the CleanROM SE thread.
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Ah f it I'll just come out and say it. Yep that's the DB!
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Yeah, that was the first one that grabbed my attention in the CleanROM SE thread.
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Sad thing is like at least 4 people had the same issue, and it's all from lack of reading.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Scott state a long time ago like cleanrom 2.1 days that CWM caused issues? And Scott also said he loved CWM and hated to switch from it?
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kleeman7 said:
Sad thing is like at least 4 people had the same issue, and it's all from lack of reading.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Scott state a long time ago like cleanrom 2.1 days that CWM caused issues? And Scott also said he loved CWM and hated to switch from it?
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Yep, back when the SD card wiping issues first started happening he told everyone not to use CWM and to use TWRP instead. Buuuut people don't want to do any actual reading so it becomes Scott's fault for not showing up at their doorstep and holding their hand for them when they flash his ROMs, cross the street, take a piss, what have you. Bottom line is if you flash, you assume ALL risk. It's your own damn fault for not reading. Even if you're flashing an updated version of the ROM you've been running for months, ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS read the entire OP for changelog, flash instructions, etc. The moron in question said that it's because his xda app didn't put the warning in red but bottom line is it was still there. Had he READ THE ENTIRE OP, he would have seen the warning whether it was red, green, blue or purple with pink polka dots. His own damn fault, and at this point I'm glad his phone got eff'd up. Serves him right.
Seriously guys, no offence but we have to stop putting up all these bounty threads. Bounties are only meant for things that no one has access to or kept in secret or something that is extremely complex or involves a vast amount of steps to create. Bounties are not for stuff like creating a ROM or modding something. If you need that, just place a simple request thread tagged with [REQ], since there are many developers out there already that can already create it for you. Please respect what bounties mean for this community or eventually the most important bounties will get lost in all the mess. Not looking to offend, but there were already several comments about this so consider this just a friendly PSA and reminder.
Agreed, im sick of the bounty threads. I vote we have a bounty for no more bounty threads and sticky it.
People just think that cause we don't have a Rom or feature that it is because developers didn't get money. When in fact they just don't have the device....
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Agree I regret donating to joelz has had phone for over 2 months going on and nothing bit ridiculous
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Thinking of making a bounty thread for a mod to stop allowing bounty threads lol
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mikeew83 said:
Agree I regret donating to joelz has had phone for over 2 months going on and nothing bit ridiculous
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DID NOT mean to thank you. Joel will put out an awesome ROM and you will be glad that you did! He will not release something unless it is perfect, no alpha or betas with bugs in them.
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mikeew83 said:
Agree I regret donating to joelz has had phone for over 2 months going on and nothing bit ridiculous
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Dem da breaks. He did say he was working on a bunch of bugs though.
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DID NOT mean to thank you. Joel will put out an awesome ROM and you will be glad that you did! He will not release something unless it is perfect, no alpha or betas with bugs in them.
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Dunno about that though. Coming from the Rez.
But I agree with the OP, people are basically trying to hire devs now lol.
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blestsol said:
Dem da breaks. He did say he was working on a bunch of bugs though.
Dunno about that though. Coming from the Rez.
But I agree with the OP, people are basically trying to hire devs now lol.
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I have a prediction that just like the fascinate, we had a very rough start, than once things go more popular things started getting ported. I remember when ICS was first really released, it was CNA, Gummy android, and AOKP, all were ports from the Nexus S I believe.
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Agree I regret donating to joelz has had phone for over 2 months going on and nothing bit ridiculous
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Dude just because you donated does not mean joelz owes you a ****in thing! I donated to joelz and have never used his work before. If he does indeed release bamf great, if not oh well! I just like to support recognized devs to show appreciation.
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Dude just because you donated does not mean joelz owes you a ****in thing! I donated to joelz and have never used his work before. If he does indeed release bamf great, if not oh well! I just like to support recognized devs to show appreciation.
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While I do agree with you but I don't agree with the "if he does indeed release bamf great, if not oh well!". People who donated did it so they could have the ROM on the phone. If I donated n he never released the rom, I'd be pretty upset because thats the when reason the donation thread was made. It was made to bring his ROM to the S3 not just so he could have a free phone. But bamf was never known to pump out that many releases. They usually only releases stuff every once in a while since they aren't really buggy. I'm just surprised its taking this long. But then again I know nothing about ROM making
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While I do agree with you but I don't agree with the "if he does indeed release bamf great, if not oh well!". People who donated did it so they could have the ROM on the phone. If I donated n he never released the rom, I'd be pretty upset because thats the when reason the donation thread was made. It was made to bring his ROM to the S3 not just so he could have a free phone. But bamf was never known to pump out that many releases. They usually only releases stuff every once in a while since they aren't really buggy. I'm just surprised its taking this long. But then again I know nothing about ROM making
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Cant argue that... No doubt it would be pretty shady on joelz part if he didnt release a rom for the s3. Part of the reason to my previous post is that I most likely will be moving on to the note2. So there is a good chance that I wont get to use his rom even tho I donted to him.
BAMF has a build made. They don't release BETA's... They put out solid, daily drivers.. Trust me, it's worth the wait.
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Cant argue that... No doubt it would be pretty shady on joelz part if he didnt release a rom for the s3. Part of the reason to my previous post is that I most likely will be moving on to the note2. So there is a good chance that I wont get to use his rom even tho I donted to him.
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I feel you. I probably won't get to try it neither since I too will move to the Note 2 on release day. I used Joelz ROM on the Rezound n it was a great ROM
See you in the Note 2 forums in the future lol
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droidstyle said:
Dude just because you donated does not mean joelz owes you a ****in thing! I donated to joelz and have never used his work before. If he does indeed release bamf great, if not oh well! I just like to support recognized devs to show appreciation.
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He kinda does owe his donators something. He was given the money to do a certain job per say. I think this guy probably just isn't familiar with how bamf/joelz works and sees everyone else pumping out release after release and thought joelz would do the same instead of pushing a quality release. Prime example is eclipse, that bounty was started and achieved well after joelz's and the release has been out for a week or more, granted half the stuff didnt/doesnt work at first tho.
All I'm sayin is I can see both sides of the coin, for someone who doesn't know joelz's work/habits and sees all the other ROMs being released one after another it's understandable to have thought he would have released one by now. Also it's understandable that he's taking his time and releasing something that is going to work 99.9% right off the bat instead of having umptine issues with it.
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Cant argue that... No doubt it would be pretty shady on joelz part if he didnt release a rom for the s3. Part of the reason to my previous post is that I most likely will be moving on to the note2. So there is a good chance that I wont get to use his rom even tho I donted to him.
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I feel you. I probably won't get to try it neither since I too will move to the Note 2 on release day. I used Joelz ROM on the Rezound n it was a great ROM
See you in the Note 2 forums in the future lol
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That's your own guys' faults for not stickin with the s3 lol.
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Dude just because you donated does not mean joelz owes you a ****in thing! I donated to joelz and have never used his work before. If he does indeed release bamf great, if not oh well! I just like to support recognized devs to show appreciation.
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I must disagree with this statement as well. While most people donate once they try a rom they should not expect anything more once they donated for this.
I think when purchasing a device for someone is a different story. You are accepting the device as something you will develop on. The device is not being purchased to say thank you for your prior work. You have an unwritten obligation that you will develop something if you are going to accept the device. If you will not or cannot produce something you should be willing to send it to someone that will for the good of the community.
I know Joel has done some great stuff in the past and do not think he is trying to get over on anyone. I do believe he will produce something. It might leave a bad taste in some people's mouths though. Although once he releases a rom everyone seems to forget the past anyway. Lol
Bottom line is the only people who really have the right to complain are the people that donated for the device. All others can just watch and learn and it might help you in deciding what to do in the future.
Kind of reminds me of punk.kaos with the fascinate. Did he actually help out behind the scenes or what? Never saw anything pit out by him except a half working froyo and a leaked version.
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mikeew83 said:
Agree I regret donating to joelz has had phone for over 2 months going on and nothing bit ridiculous
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It is how he was on the rezound. He released ROMs extremely slowly, they had terrible bugs, and then he'd just say he was working on it.
I hate saying it, but I have been watching and waiting, and hell say he almost has it done, then issues come up, and you wait again.
I liked his pokemon rom on the rezound, but for me audio never worked right, and he knew it was an issue, and it was near three months before it was maybe fixed even tho he said he found the issue and fixed it two days after release, he just never actually released the fix. I had the S3 by the time he released another ROM.
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Quit bashing Joelz. He is working on Paradigm. The bamf team won't let him release any builds publicly until the rom is running extremely well. He spends a huge percentage of his free time making these roms. If you think you can release the rom faster, go ahead and try yourself. FFS CM10 and AOKP JB still have a decent amount of bugs and there are teams of people working on them.
You can ask werdna and con i have been working on it you can also ask Doug Piston and Shane and reid and really the whole BAMF Team.....I honestly am all cool about releasing Beta's if its my rom however its the team rom and also why release 100 betas if they suck as i get older i realize that it's better to release one stable rom then 100 unstable ones its a lesson i've learned over the past 2 years in android. Anyways that's all i have to say, it'll be released when I believe it is ready to be released. And the reason it takes me long is because i can't spend my whole day on my computer I have extreme amounts of homework, i know some will say why not just work on it after homework, well by the time im done with my homework its around 2am.......if i worked on it everyday i would get no sleep and my grades would go to crap...That's all I really have to say. I do appreciate you guys donating the device to me really, and I will release the rom but when it's ready, thanks to all those who understand..By the way im in high school....soooooooooooo if i let my grades go to crap then I wouldn't get into a good college etc etc etc...i already let my grades go to crap in 9th and 10th grade etc etc because of android........so im doing things right this time....Anyways 4.1.2 delayed release since we are trying to merge it into our d2-common branch...also theres a battery issue an issue in mobile data settings and again Teams of people working on cm10 and aokp...while im really the only one working on this device for Paradigm..
I hate bounty threads! Agreed. They're popping up like a virus.
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