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Begining to Dev. Need sugestions

Hey guys. I cam to the epic hopeing to see more roms and more exciting things. Instead, I saw a not really supported device. So I am going to begin to port other 2.1 roms so it could fill the gaps we have between getting froyo. So I need some start suggestions. My first port is going to be the Droid X rom 2.1. So if you guys want me to port other 2.1 roms, you would have to send me a ROM dump please.

Port Cyanogenmod.
Or make your own.
Do you have any idea what your doing?

xjman said:
Port Cyanogenmod.
Or make your own.
Do you have any idea what your doing?
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you are so getting sigged for this.. by far my fav post of the day

shabbypenguin said:
you are so getting sigged for this.. by far my fav post of the day
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He could call it im14andHAVEnothingTOdoMOD

smoothtaste said:
He could call it im14andHAVEnothingTOdoMOD
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lmfao
10char

I sure as hell would never flash it. You have no idea what you're doing kid.
Here are some examples of your ****ty spelling:
Ohh belive me it is. So how come we don't have any. People repliesing?
Belife me this is legit check this out.

rufflez2010 said:
I sure as hell would never flash it. You have no idea what you're doing kid.
Here are some examples of your ****ty spelling:
Ohh belive me it is. So how come we don't have any. People repliesing?
Belife me this is legit check this out.
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And this one makes my sig!

Why don't you start by porting the gingerbread dump you linked that seems like a good start.

rufflez2010 said:
I sure as hell would never flash it. You have no idea what you're doing kid.
Here are some examples of your ****ty spelling:
Ohh belive me it is. So how come we don't have any. People repliesing?
Belife me this is legit check this out.
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Not everyone speaks English as his or her first language,...
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*** Dameon87 sets mode: +m
Dameon87: Learn to code.
Dameon87: Now.
Dameon87: Bye
Dameon87: ....
*** Dameon87 sets mode: -m

wow some of you are unreal..... instead of judging the guy from his spelling how about giving him some idea's, the epic needs more devs...
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sryans2004 said:
wow some of you are unreal..... instead of judging the guy from his spelling how about giving him some idea's, the epic needs more devs...
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Dude he obviously has no idea wtf he is doing. He thought we could port the I9200 leak to the epic in a few minutes.... rofl.

Misspelling words are kinda key when developing. You don't want to misspell something and have it ruin your day with a device. He honestly doesn't know what he's doing. My only reason for the comment was due to the Gingerbread he wanted ported in 20 minutes. Go read that thread and you may agree with me then.

Chalup said:
Not everyone speaks English as his or her first language,...
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I realize that. I speak 2 languages myself. But I don't want him touching anything when commands need to be SPELLED CORRECTLY. He obviously struggles with simple words.

Ok... but maybe he is a fast learner, maybe he could help out the community.... you never know, so why not try helping him instead of putting him down?
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Maybe he's using his phone and the keys get stuck like mine do and doesn't care to fix it since it is just a post. It seems as if you guys are judging him when you really don't know what he's capable of....
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sryans2004 said:
Maybe he's using his phone and the keys get stuck like mine do and doesn't care to fix it since it is just a post. It seems as if you guys are judging him when you really don't know what he's capable of....
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqJH8ie4QIs
Again, not someone I would trust with my phone.

sryans2004 said:
Maybe he's using his phone and the keys get stuck like mine do and doesn't care to fix it since it is just a post. It seems as if you guys are judging him when you really don't know what he's capable of....
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again tho, if he had come in and said hey my dad works for google i can get a leak of gingerbread for yall can someone help me, we woulda laughed but tried anyways.
instead a few weeks ago he joined heroc channel on fossnet and started pretending he was darchstar (one of our best devs) and he had a leak he was gunna work on with cm team to port it over. since then its spiraled into him being banned on fossnet and him evading it. now he is on the forum in another thread claiming there is a leak for gingerbread and demands that it is ported over, when i bust on him for being a fake he come in here and says he is gunna port a whole lot of roms for us we just need to supply the dumps....
again if he came here asking for tips on learning on how to start rom developing im sure he would have gottena lot of useful tips, instead he came in here like a fool and as such.... this is not an attack on him because of his age.. bubby323 has one rom out and is working on a sense port and he is under 18 (if he chooses to disclose his real age thats on him) but a matter of the mindset.

shabbypenguin said:
again tho, if he had come in and said hey my dad works for google i can get a leak of gingerbread for yall can someone help me, we woulda laughed but tried anyways.
instead a few weeks ago he joined heroc channel on fossnet and started pretending he was darchstar (one of our best devs) and he had a leak he was gunna work on with cm team to port it over. since then its spiraled into him being banned on fossnet and him evading it. now he is on the forum in another thread claiming there is a leak for gingerbread and demands that it is ported over, when i bust on him for being a fake he come in here and says he is gunna port a whole lot of roms for us we just need to supply the dumps....
again if he came here asking for tips on learning on how to start rom developing im sure he would have gottena lot of useful tips, instead he came in here like a fool and as such.... this is not an attack on him because of his age.. bubby323 has one rom out and is working on a sense port and he is under 18 (if he chooses to disclose his real age thats on him) but a matter of the mindset.
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I'm 14. Oh, and I have 2 ROMs out.

Ok listen up. Frst of all, I am typing straight from my epic, give me a break on spelling. Secound, I am not going to be developing on my own, as you may all know about IncredibleDoes in the incredible forum, well he was nice enough to offer to help me step by step on my first rom port (Droid X). I am still waiting on a reply from him so give me some time. And third of al, all of you ar telling me to port this that are not 2.1 roms when in the thread I said specificly 2.1! So calm down guys. I'm only trying to help.

[Q] Any Devs?

Do we have any devs supporting the Infuse? I would like to know who the devs are! Thank you

Hare4 said:
I would like to know who the devs are! Thank you
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Hah, And likewise I'm sure the dev's will stay nice and quiet until they have something worth showing/releasing. They don't want to be harassed by the 100's-1000's of recent Infuse users who have nothing to contribute.

crawlgsx said:
Hah, And likewise I'm sure the dev's will stay nice and quiet until they have something worth showing/releasing. They don't want to be harassed by the 100's-1000's of recent Infuse users who have nothing to contribute.
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Makes total sense. I should of thought of that one.

Anyway i'm gonna go ahead and say thanks to the devs and anyone else who is going to contribute.

Anyone know how difficult it would be to port a Captivate Rom to th Infuse? They do have similar hardware.

If I may chime in, the quickest way I've seen to get dev's developing for your phone is to start a multi donation page where you amas funds (some may give 20 bucks each donator,etc) and then buy a couple of the devs the device and ship it to them. This is how the Nook got CM7 as well as many other devices.

pceasar said:
If I may chime in, the quickest way I've seen to get dev's developing for your phone is to start a multi donation page where you amas funds (some may give 20 bucks each donator,etc) and then buy a couple of the devs the device and ship it to them. This is how the Nook got CM7 as well as many other devices.
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That don't sound like a bad idea....

justanothernoob said:
That don't sound like a bad idea....
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I'll chip in and donate to a dev that already has rep.

I am willing to donate so long as team Phoenix gets the phone.
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shadow65781 said:
I am willing to donate so long as team Phoenix gets the phone.
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Same here xtremekilla09 is prob my favorite of the team phoenix developers over on the captivate
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I'd gladly donate to someone who will take on Porting MIUI.

I've had the phone for about three weeks now, and I've been working on trying to get something going -
Unfortunately my Hernia surgery has caused some slight impedance, but I may try to contact other devs and see whats going on.

ChadHughes said:
I've had the phone for about three weeks now, and I've been working on trying to get something going -
Unfortunately my Hernia surgery has caused some slight impedance, but I may try to contact other devs and see whats going on.
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*doh* best of luck on a quick recovery, thats no fun.

di11igaf has indicated he would be willing to work on a ROM if a device was donated. Here's a link to his Captivate and Inspire ROMs to give you an idea of his work.
Captivate kernel
GingerBeast for Inspire

EGBTMagus said:
Anyone know how difficult it would be to port a Captivate Rom to th Infuse? They do have similar hardware.
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please this is not true. assuming thing are easy to port from sgs is not a good way to go. there is a similar processor. and that's about all you can confirm. this phone has more ram, mhl hdmi support, new gps hardware, maybe a new radio, though it may be the same as in sgs4g which in it's self is hard enough to port anything beyond the apks and maybe the rom, new camera, a flash, new screen type, and posibly an new audio chip as some samsungs such as the galaxy player and sgs2 are using yamaha audio componants while the sgs line is wolfson.
you dont see ports to and from captivate to fascinate, or to sgs4g, or to the droid charge and those phones are more similar to the captivate than this is. this may have more in common with the galaxy tab than the captivate.
these are not minor differences but it may be posible to maybe port the framework over and apk's. it may be posible to use the whole rom but not the kernel. ports will be projects and maybe not a great idea other than maybe an aosp gingerbread or icecream sandwhich project.

I just got this phone as well and awaiting some development

Since I don't know Cyanogen, we'd need to talk to someone like "rhcp0112345" or "EugeneKay" to reach out to them....same for MIUI devs.
If we can get more people showing an interest to donate we can get this going.
See the below thread as a successful instance of this, I know it happened also for the captivate with cognition I think.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=868868

HushH said:
di11igaf has indicated he would be willing to work on a ROM if a device was donated.
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I believe Designgears would do the same but, I don't believe we'll be able to sway Mikey into another AT&T branded phone....?

Ok I guess we've done enough talking i guess I'll start another thread later today to start accumulating a list of those who'd be willing to donate. If the list gets substantial, we'll reach out to the devs.

to be honest id rather it stay small. i would like 3-4 roms more than a couple dozen. and id like there to be better comunication between devs, intermediate users, and newbe's rather than the cluster [email protected] seen in some forums. when there are too many parties involved it gets to a point that lower level users stop learning and advanced users suddenly take on expectations from the comunity. id rather it stay small. we can get help when we need it but most of the stuff in the sgs forums that we wont see are not that significant in my oppinion. i got rid of the captivate and got this because i thought id know enough about it to get it like i want it and not be sucked into the rom frenzy while also being a contributing member of the board. im not saying im against bounties for your favorite devs to come over but id rather put up a bounty for a second phone for the devs that actually wanted to buy this phone.

Now that the Vibrant has an ICS ROM

Now that the Vibrant has an ICS ROM currently under development, and since I have read Vibrant ROM's can be ported to the Samsung Galaxy S 4G, does anyone know how feasible this would be? From my understanding the storage is a bit different (partitioning?) but the hardware in these devices appears very similar.
I've read the post about porting Vibrant ROM's but I've also read a few people haven't had much luck. Since I am on leave this coming week I've decided I'll tinker a bit with the concept, I'm also curious if anyone else has.
No doubt, I wish I had the capability to use the source to begin work on a ROM compiled directly towards the SGS4G, but alas I do not
Any ideas or inputs would be greatly appreciated. I am disappointed in the lack of development for this phone, but I do understand why.

Probably won't happen. We don't even have an aosp kernel compiled that I am aware of. Someone was trying to get the KJ6 kernel edited like drhonks and even that didn't turn out.
The couple devs we have left around here are just doing little tweaks and theaming the stock rom lately.... no real new developing afaik.
Kinda sucks... but this phone is pretty much dead in the water.
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Yea we are struggling to get a dated cm7 so what makes you think we can get something newer than that.
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@camalus But you do have the kernel released for GB by Samsung as of recent, which from what I've seen others are doing to get ICS working on their devices.
@daxecutioner24 If you can't find it, make it.

@EjLIFE Not going krazy over cm7,ill be fine withput it
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People, cm kernel is made, just being tweaked, according to krylon. Lets wait patiently, maybe we'll get cm7, then someone will have enough courage to build ICS
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I'd agree, CM7 would be great to have on this device. And hopefully their development of CM7 could make moving from CM7 to CM9 much more easier. I just know this device should run ICS just as well as the Vibrant, and I've seen people port Vibrant ROM's to the SGS4G so I was curious if one thought their was a faster possibility.

If you are so needy for new ROMs and development then you should do it yourself or be patiently waiting for WIPs the "few" but great developers have announced and not flooding the forum with wine and cheese... Just my two cents... Im just saying...

chris31jct said:
If you are so needy for new ROMs and development then you should do it yourself or be patiently waiting for WIPs the "few" but great developers have announced and not flooding the forum with wine and cheese... Just my two cents... Im just saying...
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Why do people always respond like this.
He's not whining or demanding anything. Just a thread of some questions and inquiries he was having. No need to semi slam him.
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I know, the devs are great and i feel bad for them for having to put up with alot of crap from other members , but sometimes the devs are assholes too.

Actually, my inquiry was related to the idea of porting the ROM from the Vibrant to this device myself, and asking if anyone with knowledge of doing so if it was even a worthy attempt.
I'm also going to say I have noticed the Samsung side of XDA seems to have only a few developers with knowledge and insight and TONs of people waiting for a chance to flame others. Here is a hint: your post is entirely unconstructive. It isn't your job to protect the developers and when you hop into a thread to shoot your two cents of flame it only details. You are also potentially pushing away the progress others might make by being a douche.
Thanks.

eJLIFe said:
Actually, my inquiry was related to the idea of porting the ROM from the Vibrant to this device myself, and asking if anyone with knowledge of doing so if it was even a worthy attempt.
I'm also going to say I have noticed the Samsung side of XDA seems to have only a few developers with knowledge and insight and TONs of people waiting for a chance to flame others. Here is a hint: your post is entirely unconstructive. It isn't your job to protect the developers and when you hop into a thread to shoot your two cents of flame it only details. You are also potentially pushing away the progress others might make by being a douche.
Thanks.
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Agreed,people believe too much on these devs.like fanboys.respect them and thats it..no need to defend them every chance you get
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People devs are those who just are better at handling java better then you are. Java = android, not coffee. Anyone can be a dev. I used to suck at all this.

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Yes. I get all your comments about how no good is to flame. I dont really care. Just to begin with. I only posted that because people only do is ask and complain about the "few" devs that only do theme-ing and/or their little so called development. Thats flameful and disrespectful itself because if you want some ICS, you can enjoy Ravers Octane. It may not be ICS but you get my idea. This is an old phone, everybody knows that and we just got GB source a few weeks ago. Its not going to be rainning ROMs instantly. Also, GB is older than the phone itself. The Vibrant has been around for maybe 2 years and many people jumped in the first round of Galaxys, probably skipped this Vibrant Plus so then we dont get many users or devs, therefore why so little development. ICS just got out and is available on like three phones whereas the GB have been around and phones now even come with it while we had to start from froyo...
Bah this is pointless debating. Im just sick of these threads talking sh!+ about development here. Everyone should be grateful of what we have. Again, you want something made then do it yourself. Like it or not, its simple like that.
I wont be visiting this so much contributive thread with my so much non contributive posts. And dont mind critizing my typos, English is not my first language.

All of you should call down.
Op, i remember seeing a thread on how to port any vibrant ROM to the sgs4g. It was pretty detailed and very good. Try looking into that to see if you could get a working ics from the vibrant
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Same thing, since our phone is so different, wouldn't we need an ICS bootloader and or kernel source for ICS for it to work. CM7 may be here in a month, but ICS won't be here until a year after CM9 comes out, if at all. So, just wait for your 2 year tmo contract to end and switch to sprint and get the galaxy nexus 2(possibly 2012).

David1239 said:
I know, the devs are great and i feel bad for them for having to put up with alot of crap from other members , but sometimes the devs are assholes too.
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Can't we all just get along?

airfluip1 said:
Same thing, since our phone is so different, wouldn't we need an ICS bootloader and or kernel source for ICS for it to work. CM7 may be here in a month, but ICS won't be here until a year after CM9 comes out, if at all. So, just wait for your 2 year tmo contract to end and switch to sprint and get the galaxy nexus 2(possibly 2012).
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I was looking into this and i thought that the port was able to use the gb bootloaders. I'm not sure about it, though.
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[Q] Why can't we get ics?

I am just wondering, the sgs4g is a very amazing device, but it has almost no recognition, and for some reason, i have searched for hours, and there are no ways to get ics on this device, even though it is very capable of doing so. Also what is the nearest thing we can get to ics?

Put on your flak jacket bud. Your about to take heavy fire. Spend a little time using the search function and you will find your answer. Good Luck

I am not going to flame you, but you need to do some research before posting a thread.
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hechoen said:
Put on your flak jacket bud. Your about to take heavy fire. Spend a little time using the search function and you will find your answer. Good Luck
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Lol... More like body armor brother!
To the noob that posted this, it is in the world as we speak... Just be patient... Hopefully we can have a version out soon... It's hard to build a ROM without the proper stuff ie source code...
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thomas.raines said:
Lol... More like body armor brother!
To the noob that posted this, it is in the world as we speak... Just be patient... Hopefully we can have a version out soon... It's hard to build a ROM without the proper stuff ie source code...
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Lol he's going to have to call the fire department haha.
And OP i want an ice cream sandwich now thanks for opening my appetite
if you ain't first you're last

I guess, it's way too hot of a day(a joke) and we all need our ice cream, but it may be coming soon. After Bhundven finishes CM7. Raver is gonna pass the project to the rest of team acid who actually have a GS4G.

yes i have a build of ics for the sgs4g built from google source. It does boot but has some issues i no longer have the device so bug testing it for me is pretty much not going to happen. Once bryan and fb and m4x get done with cm7 i will give them access to my source and build environment so they can help me complete it. Unless someone wants to part with a sgs4g for a bit so i can finish it lol . You would get your device back .

RaverX3X said:
yes i have a build of ics for the sgs4g built from google source. It does boot but has some issues i no longer have the device so bug testing it for me is pretty much not going to happen. Once bryan and fb and m4x get done with cm7 i will give them access to my source and build environment so they can help me complete it. Unless someone wants to part with a sgs4g for a bit so i can finish it lol . You would get your device back .
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If i was living in the USA, i wold give you my 4G for developing, but i am oceans away from you.

I am just a little uncomfortable with sending my phone half way across the USA.
sorry.

im also building it atm so fb or someone can flash it. Yes there will be bugs. I am not looking for someone that is omg this dont work it broken yes i know stuff is broken i need someone that can do comprehensive log-cats and send them to me with detailed description of what they did etc.

RaverX3X said:
im also building it atm so fb or someone can flash it. Yes there will be bugs. I am not looking for someone that is omg this dont work it broken yes i know stuff is broken i need someone that can do comprehensive log-cats and send them to me with detailed description of what they did etc.
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Me me me me lol thx raver
if you ain't first you're last

Hey Raver, i dont mind sending you my 4g. I just dont have a back up phone.. maybe we can swap? Hehe any old phone would do.
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7TimesCursed said:
Hey Raver, i dont mind sending you my 4g. I just dont have a back up phone.. maybe we can swap? Hehe any old phone would do.
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Why has no one replied to this guy?

All The Recent Bounty Threads

Seriously guys, no offence but we have to stop putting up all these bounty threads. Bounties are only meant for things that no one has access to or kept in secret or something that is extremely complex or involves a vast amount of steps to create. Bounties are not for stuff like creating a ROM or modding something. If you need that, just place a simple request thread tagged with [REQ], since there are many developers out there already that can already create it for you. Please respect what bounties mean for this community or eventually the most important bounties will get lost in all the mess. Not looking to offend, but there were already several comments about this so consider this just a friendly PSA and reminder.

Agreed, im sick of the bounty threads. I vote we have a bounty for no more bounty threads and sticky it.

People just think that cause we don't have a Rom or feature that it is because developers didn't get money. When in fact they just don't have the device....
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Agree I regret donating to joelz has had phone for over 2 months going on and nothing bit ridiculous
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Thinking of making a bounty thread for a mod to stop allowing bounty threads lol
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mikeew83 said:
Agree I regret donating to joelz has had phone for over 2 months going on and nothing bit ridiculous
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DID NOT mean to thank you. Joel will put out an awesome ROM and you will be glad that you did! He will not release something unless it is perfect, no alpha or betas with bugs in them.
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mikeew83 said:
Agree I regret donating to joelz has had phone for over 2 months going on and nothing bit ridiculous
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Dem da breaks. He did say he was working on a bunch of bugs though.
HHF2 said:
DID NOT mean to thank you. Joel will put out an awesome ROM and you will be glad that you did! He will not release something unless it is perfect, no alpha or betas with bugs in them.
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Dunno about that though. Coming from the Rez.
But I agree with the OP, people are basically trying to hire devs now lol.
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blestsol said:
Dem da breaks. He did say he was working on a bunch of bugs though.
Dunno about that though. Coming from the Rez.
But I agree with the OP, people are basically trying to hire devs now lol.
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I have a prediction that just like the fascinate, we had a very rough start, than once things go more popular things started getting ported. I remember when ICS was first really released, it was CNA, Gummy android, and AOKP, all were ports from the Nexus S I believe.

mikeew83 said:
Agree I regret donating to joelz has had phone for over 2 months going on and nothing bit ridiculous
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Dude just because you donated does not mean joelz owes you a ****in thing! I donated to joelz and have never used his work before. If he does indeed release bamf great, if not oh well! I just like to support recognized devs to show appreciation.

droidstyle said:
Dude just because you donated does not mean joelz owes you a ****in thing! I donated to joelz and have never used his work before. If he does indeed release bamf great, if not oh well! I just like to support recognized devs to show appreciation.
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While I do agree with you but I don't agree with the "if he does indeed release bamf great, if not oh well!". People who donated did it so they could have the ROM on the phone. If I donated n he never released the rom, I'd be pretty upset because thats the when reason the donation thread was made. It was made to bring his ROM to the S3 not just so he could have a free phone. But bamf was never known to pump out that many releases. They usually only releases stuff every once in a while since they aren't really buggy. I'm just surprised its taking this long. But then again I know nothing about ROM making
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xXJay_RXx said:
While I do agree with you but I don't agree with the "if he does indeed release bamf great, if not oh well!". People who donated did it so they could have the ROM on the phone. If I donated n he never released the rom, I'd be pretty upset because thats the when reason the donation thread was made. It was made to bring his ROM to the S3 not just so he could have a free phone. But bamf was never known to pump out that many releases. They usually only releases stuff every once in a while since they aren't really buggy. I'm just surprised its taking this long. But then again I know nothing about ROM making
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Cant argue that... No doubt it would be pretty shady on joelz part if he didnt release a rom for the s3. Part of the reason to my previous post is that I most likely will be moving on to the note2. So there is a good chance that I wont get to use his rom even tho I donted to him.

BAMF has a build made. They don't release BETA's... They put out solid, daily drivers.. Trust me, it's worth the wait.

droidstyle said:
Cant argue that... No doubt it would be pretty shady on joelz part if he didnt release a rom for the s3. Part of the reason to my previous post is that I most likely will be moving on to the note2. So there is a good chance that I wont get to use his rom even tho I donted to him.
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I feel you. I probably won't get to try it neither since I too will move to the Note 2 on release day. I used Joelz ROM on the Rezound n it was a great ROM
See you in the Note 2 forums in the future lol
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droidstyle said:
Dude just because you donated does not mean joelz owes you a ****in thing! I donated to joelz and have never used his work before. If he does indeed release bamf great, if not oh well! I just like to support recognized devs to show appreciation.
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He kinda does owe his donators something. He was given the money to do a certain job per say. I think this guy probably just isn't familiar with how bamf/joelz works and sees everyone else pumping out release after release and thought joelz would do the same instead of pushing a quality release. Prime example is eclipse, that bounty was started and achieved well after joelz's and the release has been out for a week or more, granted half the stuff didnt/doesnt work at first tho.
All I'm sayin is I can see both sides of the coin, for someone who doesn't know joelz's work/habits and sees all the other ROMs being released one after another it's understandable to have thought he would have released one by now. Also it's understandable that he's taking his time and releasing something that is going to work 99.9% right off the bat instead of having umptine issues with it.
droidstyle said:
Cant argue that... No doubt it would be pretty shady on joelz part if he didnt release a rom for the s3. Part of the reason to my previous post is that I most likely will be moving on to the note2. So there is a good chance that I wont get to use his rom even tho I donted to him.
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xXJay_RXx said:
I feel you. I probably won't get to try it neither since I too will move to the Note 2 on release day. I used Joelz ROM on the Rezound n it was a great ROM
See you in the Note 2 forums in the future lol
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That's your own guys' faults for not stickin with the s3 lol.

droidstyle said:
Dude just because you donated does not mean joelz owes you a ****in thing! I donated to joelz and have never used his work before. If he does indeed release bamf great, if not oh well! I just like to support recognized devs to show appreciation.
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I must disagree with this statement as well. While most people donate once they try a rom they should not expect anything more once they donated for this.
I think when purchasing a device for someone is a different story. You are accepting the device as something you will develop on. The device is not being purchased to say thank you for your prior work. You have an unwritten obligation that you will develop something if you are going to accept the device. If you will not or cannot produce something you should be willing to send it to someone that will for the good of the community.
I know Joel has done some great stuff in the past and do not think he is trying to get over on anyone. I do believe he will produce something. It might leave a bad taste in some people's mouths though. Although once he releases a rom everyone seems to forget the past anyway. Lol
Bottom line is the only people who really have the right to complain are the people that donated for the device. All others can just watch and learn and it might help you in deciding what to do in the future.

Kind of reminds me of punk.kaos with the fascinate. Did he actually help out behind the scenes or what? Never saw anything pit out by him except a half working froyo and a leaked version.
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mikeew83 said:
Agree I regret donating to joelz has had phone for over 2 months going on and nothing bit ridiculous
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It is how he was on the rezound. He released ROMs extremely slowly, they had terrible bugs, and then he'd just say he was working on it.
I hate saying it, but I have been watching and waiting, and hell say he almost has it done, then issues come up, and you wait again.
I liked his pokemon rom on the rezound, but for me audio never worked right, and he knew it was an issue, and it was near three months before it was maybe fixed even tho he said he found the issue and fixed it two days after release, he just never actually released the fix. I had the S3 by the time he released another ROM.
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Quit bashing Joelz. He is working on Paradigm. The bamf team won't let him release any builds publicly until the rom is running extremely well. He spends a huge percentage of his free time making these roms. If you think you can release the rom faster, go ahead and try yourself. FFS CM10 and AOKP JB still have a decent amount of bugs and there are teams of people working on them.

You can ask werdna and con i have been working on it you can also ask Doug Piston and Shane and reid and really the whole BAMF Team.....I honestly am all cool about releasing Beta's if its my rom however its the team rom and also why release 100 betas if they suck as i get older i realize that it's better to release one stable rom then 100 unstable ones its a lesson i've learned over the past 2 years in android. Anyways that's all i have to say, it'll be released when I believe it is ready to be released. And the reason it takes me long is because i can't spend my whole day on my computer I have extreme amounts of homework, i know some will say why not just work on it after homework, well by the time im done with my homework its around 2am.......if i worked on it everyday i would get no sleep and my grades would go to crap...That's all I really have to say. I do appreciate you guys donating the device to me really, and I will release the rom but when it's ready, thanks to all those who understand..By the way im in high school....soooooooooooo if i let my grades go to crap then I wouldn't get into a good college etc etc etc...i already let my grades go to crap in 9th and 10th grade etc etc because of android........so im doing things right this time....Anyways 4.1.2 delayed release since we are trying to merge it into our d2-common branch...also theres a battery issue an issue in mobile data settings and again Teams of people working on cm10 and aokp...while im really the only one working on this device for Paradigm..

I hate bounty threads! Agreed. They're popping up like a virus.
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