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No more custom ROMs on HTC devices: HTC will secure the bootloader for future phones.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/24/htc-locks-down-incredible-s-against-custom-roms-too-starts-a-fi/
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/73423/htc-beveiligt-bootloader-nieuwe-android-toestellen.html
Why???
You have just been added next to Sony on my "Don't buy"-list.
Which phone will be the next HD2? LG?
***Update***:
Sony-Ericsson makes a tool to load custom roms onto their devices (http://tweakers.net/nieuws/73521/so...t-custom-roms-op-android-phones-mogelijk.html)
This is good news!

How much more secured is this than the traditional S-ON/S-OFF? I guess I don't really understand to what extent this new security changes over the old.
Also, it's already cracked on the Thunderbolt so likey can be repeated on the Incredible S. If it's crackable, isn't that all that matters?

This was an interesting argument, to me: NOT that the phones aren't still crackable, but rather that HTC is giving into intimidation by Verizon.. and by doing so, it's signaling that they will bow down to carriers, yet even moreso, over end users who BUY THEIR PHONES and are their actual customers.
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You may not agree, but the "rebel" in me likes that argument at least....
When you combine this with HTC America's not honoring warranties, they are not making the best moves given their fractional market share and the massive competition getting stronger and stronger from Motorola and Samsung every day ---- though I love HTC's phones and have never cheated on them once!
But keep in mind HTC *owned* the entire turf of touchscreen devices during the mighty reign of Windows Mobile... Now? Today? They are practically an asterisk. And Motorola? They were gonners. People thought there were out of the game having fallen so far behind after nothing new since the RAZR. Then the new CEO came in, targeted Android as his platform for choice, they targeted the DROID as their re-entry vehicle, and they slammed into the touchscreen market and overtook HTC like a steamroller.
When you are playing on THAT kind of playing field, you're going to go messing with your most loyal customer base -- and kiss ass with a carrier? I think HTC is blundering all over the place -- all the while they continue to make fantastic phones. But fact remains, they cannot afford to even SIGHTLY ANNOY a loyal customer these days. Once someone goes Samsung or Motorola, I don't see a big love affair where they're going to comer back to HTC. So, they better watch it, from where I sit. It's not just as simple a matter as "but we can crack anything". That's missing the point entirely.

Is HTC dual mode? Are they just doing it in the US or all over. That's why I've never liked Verizon. Started years ago over ringtones and BitPim.

What gives that person the impression that Verizon had anything to do with it? They're using the same security in the Incredible S, which from the specs on HTC's website, is a GSM phone so if this additional layer of security were a specific demand from VZW, there'd be no reason to add it to the Incredible S.
I doubt increasing security will hurt HTC sales at all. I'm thinking the majority of HTC phone users do NOT root their phones or hack them. Sure, XDA members do, but the average Joe? I don't think so. The percentage of people who buy HTC just because it's hackable is probably a pretty miniscule amount compared to the big picture.
I could be wrong, but I think the more likely answer for increasing security is to reduce warranty claims and support calls from would-be phone hackers accidentally bricking them.

GnatGoSplat said:
I could be wrong, but I think the more likely answer for increasing security is to reduce warranty claims and support calls from would-be phone hackers accidentally bricking them.
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I'm with this. Go to any Android phone dev section and you see tons of people returning phones for replacement because they goof up flashing it.

I didn't realize this was posted already, I had just posted this in another section, I had said a week ago that it might be the end of an era with HTC locking down their phones, this sucks.
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I wouldn't be at all surprised if this is just pressure from the carriers rather than HTC itself.
Regardless, i am disappoint!

I hope they dont do this, we need customization!

it does suck, theyll be another motorola now, except sense still owns blur lol

No no no no no. :'( this sucks. I love htc and the OPENNESS of android. Why I DIDN'T go with Motorola for an android device.
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we need to apeal to htc to please not do this!!

GnatGoSplat said:
What gives that person the impression that Verizon had anything to do with it? They're using the same security in the Incredible S...
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Exactly.
Even if HTC were to start locking the bootloader at the behest of one particular network (and frankly, I find the notion that any one network would have enough clout to try and impose such measures questionable, to say the least), there'd be no reason for HTC to do this to all their handsets.
This is a decision HTC have made themselves.
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I doubt increasing security will hurt HTC sales at all. I'm thinking the majority of HTC phone users do NOT root their phones or hack them. Sure, XDA members do, but the average Joe? I don't think so. The percentage of people who buy HTC just because it's hackable is probably a pretty miniscule amount compared to the big picture.
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Also true - XDA may be big but it doesn't compare to the number of phones being sold.
Heck, there are more than 3 times as many Galaxy S handsets have been sold as XDA-devs' entire membership and that's just one of a miscellany of handsets this place caters for.

man i hope somebody talks some sense into them

This is bonkers what are they doing this for?

GnatGoSplat said:
How much more secured is this than the traditional S-ON/S-OFF? I guess I don't really understand to what extent this new security changes over the old.
Also, it's already cracked on the Thunderbolt so likey can be repeated on the Incredible S. If it's crackable, isn't that all that matters?
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Well I don't know for sure, but when you hook up you phone to your computer and flash it, your computer and phone will communicate with each other, and the computer will tell the phone what the new rom will be. Now, the people here at xda only have to figure out how to tell the phone what the new rom is.
But with this new security, not only do will we have to figure out how to tell it, we also have to answer the phones question to the computer, what the password is to flash it. This password is only known to HTC.

Step666 said:
Heck, there are more than 3 times as many Galaxy S handsets have been sold as XDA-devs' entire membership and that's just one of a miscellany of handsets this place caters for.
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I was thinking the same thing. The new devices with be unlocked and made available to the people who'll use them.

If HTC locked the phones like Motorola does, then there will be no further HTC gadgets for me.
I didn't buy Motorola because of the same reason.

Every time they make a "secure lock" it takes all of a week to open and rewrite
IF they did make it uncrackable, according to the Supreme court decision it would violate ownership rights.
This is phase and as such, will pass

oka1 said:
IF they did make it uncrackable, according to the Supreme court decision it would violate ownership rights.
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I think you need to re-read that.
The Supreme Court said it wasn't illegal to hack/tweak/modify software such as rooting/jail-breaking but that doesn't magically give you a right to do so.
If end-users have the right to modify their handsets, how do Motorola get away with their encrypted bootloader?

Sensation to be unlocked in aug - htc fb

AMAZING NEWS TODAY GUYS... this is from HTC page on FB posted an hour ago.
**UPDATE 7/10**
We wanted to provide an update on HTC’s progress with bringing bootloader unlocking to our newest phones. We know how excited some of you are for this capability, and we’ve put significant resources behind making this change as soon as possible. While we wish we could flip a simple switch and unlock all bootloaders across our device portfolio, this is actually a complex challenge that requires a new software build and extensive testing to deliver the best possible customer experience.
We’re thrilled to announce today that software updates to support bootloader unlocking will begin rolling out in August for the global HTC Sensation, followed by the HTC Sensation 4G on T-Mobile USA and the HTC EVO 3D on Sprint. We’re in the testing phase for the unlocking capability now, and we expect it to be fully operational by early September for devices that have received the software updates. We'll continue rolling out the unlocking capability over time to other devices as part of maintenance releases and new shipments.
HTC continues its commitment to unlocking bootloaders and supporting the developer community. Because of the importance of this community to us, please expect an update on this about every few weeks as we make progress toward launch. Thank you for your patience and continued support!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163267

sorry guys....Already posted...MODS please delete
Sheer excitement...

diosys said:
sorry guys....Already posted...MODS please delete
Sheer excitement...
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Yep,hehe, you should search it before posing

diosys said:
AMAZING NEWS TODAY GUYS... this is from HTC page on FB posted an hour ago.
**UPDATE 7/10**
We wanted to provide an update on HTC’s progress with bringing bootloader unlocking to our newest phones. We know how excited some of you are for this capability, and we’ve put significant resources behind making this change as soon as possible. While we wish we could flip a simple switch and unlock all bootloaders across our device portfolio, this is actually a complex challenge that requires a new software build and extensive testing to deliver the best possible customer experience.
We’re thrilled to announce today that software updates to support bootloader unlocking will begin rolling out in August for the global HTC Sensation, followed by the HTC Sensation 4G on T-Mobile USA and the HTC EVO 3D on Sprint. We’re in the testing phase for the unlocking capability now, and we expect it to be fully operational by early September for devices that have received the software updates. We'll continue rolling out the unlocking capability over time to other devices as part of maintenance releases and new shipments.
HTC continues its commitment to unlocking bootloaders and supporting the developer community. Because of the importance of this community to us, please expect an update on this about every few weeks as we make progress toward launch. Thank you for your patience and continued support!
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You should get your unlock here: Root & Unlock HTC Sensation

Cheering! about time.

crazy cat said:
You should get your unlock here: Root & Unlock HTC Sensation
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I'm assuming you linked to that video because of his inability to search, rather than him posting the news...

forget searching, a brief glance on any of the relevent threads will show many of these posts

crazy cat said:
You should get your unlock here: Root & Unlock HTC Sensation
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you simply need to move on a**hole

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hahaha lol !

Moved to correct area,
Closed as this is already posted and being talked about.

HTC - STOP False advertising petition...

Firstly, let me say that this is not a class action type petition.
This is a discussion and petition asking the Manufacturer HTC to honor it's advertised position, made by CEO Peter Chou on May 26th, promising to ship all future devices with unlocked bootloaders.
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You can see the statement yourself at: http://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/10150307320018084
I don't want to add to the legal troubles of my favorite manufacturer, I just want them to correct their mistake, unlock the bootloaders as promised & apologize for what I am sure was an inadvertent oversight that will be corrected in a few hours or a day or two.
You simply can't make advertisement directed toward increasing sales off new devices to developers & power users (the folks that review and fix bugs for you freely in many cases) and then break that bond, that trust built over the last decade.
Also, don't even try to say that you aren't using these social media outlets to market and advertise. I have been getting your posts and tweets, advertising your devices all week.
While your actions are certainly in violation of numerous trade regulations and laws, I don't care at this point. I don't want to make a name litigating over these issues, I just want the manufacturer that I support, to keep their word and market/advertise their devices in a fair and ethical manner. I am not participating in the boycott thread & I'm not asking people to stop buying HTC products. Just the opposite in fact. I want you to be successful. But I also want you to honor our relationship and keep your promises.
Please, take notice and make this right.
I ask all XDA members to support HTC in doing the right thing & pledge your support by joining this discussion and adding your name to this petition.
We, the members engaged in discussion in this forum thread ask HTC to comply with their advertised & promised claim of May 26th, that all future devices would have unlocked bootloaders.
We appreciate your timely rectification of this issue HTC.
Sincerely,
The above & below named participants.
EDIT: Please also sign the petition here: http://www.groubal.com/htc-vivid-has-locked-bootloader-contrary-to-statements-by-the-company/
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I agree with all the above. Tired of this crap, didn't expect it from HTC. HTC phones have always had the greatest development, but that won't carry on if they continue to lie and do this.

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slapshot30 said:
I agree with all the above. Tired of this crap, didn't expect it from HTC. HTC phones have always had the greatest development, but that won't carry on if they continue to lie and do this.
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Lying about S-LCD displays is another reason I avoid HTC phones. HTC used to be acceptably decent. Now they seem to lie their rears off.

Although I am a die hard Samsung user, I do support your cause for HTC to have unlocked bootloaders now and in the future. What they do could affect how other manufacturers treat their devices. I wouldn't want to see the same thing happen to Samsung phones either. Plus this also stifles development by the independent community as well.

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I would like my bootloader unlocked plus an ice cream sandwich for the wait. Thanks.

HTC, please stop lying to us

I'm not an HTC guy but i agree this is damaging for the entire community and i'm sure there are HTC guys on here so they can't play dumb

i am a HTC fan.
i agree with OP
LYING MAKE ME MAD, HULK SMASH!

Agree with OP..
Thats the only reason why i never bought VIVID...

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Wouldn't mind getting htc products. This I why I don't.
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I posted on Twitter and Facebook. Returning my Vivid and never buying HTC ever again if unlock doesn't come this week :-(
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Add me to the ranks who support this. I also posted this to a thread I started 2wks ago on the htc forums.
http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/182/t/14430.aspx
Posted to FB and G+ as well as Public w/ request to reshare!

I fully support that HTC should honor their promise, and unlock HTC bootloader. See my posts on the HTC Vivid forums.

I fully support this petition.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using xda premium

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I've always went with HTC phones, and I was considering going with another manufacturer until HTC made the bootloader statement. Now that I see they are not true to their own words, and I can't even trust a statement made by the CEO, how can I continue to trust your devices or quality.
I personally make decisions in my company regarding the devices we use in the field, and have mostly chosen HTC phones to meet our needs. If you continue this line of blame-shifting back and forth between it's AT&T's fault and AT&T says it's your problem, (we all know better considering other devices from other manufacturers are unlocked or unlockable on AT&T) you are going to loose a large contract, as I will have to find another manufacturer, and possibly another service provider.

adelmundo said:
Although I am a die hard Samsung user, I do support your cause for HTC to have unlocked bootloaders now and in the future. What they do could affect how other manufacturers treat their devices. I wouldn't want to see the same thing happen to Samsung phones either. Plus this also stifles development by the independent community as well.
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Hav to agree with you htc shouldn't be lying cauz i don't want them to be an example for Samsung.

+100 im shocked the evo 3d owners got them to unlock the bootloader. And they posted that statement when we all told them how angry we were they locked our bootloader. I cant believe tuey flat out lied about unlocking future devices tisk tisk.

It is not HTC that is locking the bootloaders. It is the carriers. They lock them because people brick their phone and claim them under warranty which costs the carrier a fortune. There is a legal battle over this currently.
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This is why HTC doesn't like us rooting our phones

A colleague of mine here needs to return his Sensation as he has dust under the screen. It's totally stock.
He queried the "illegal software ... chargeable" clause from HTC when he got the reply. This is their response.
Thank you for your email regarding my email stating the terms and conditions of the repair process.
Please do not worry about the 'illegal software' clause - this relates to people who 'root' their phones so they can install unlicensed software which would normally be chargeable on to their phones.
This is not relevant to any application you may have downloaded from the android market or third party applications, such as premium navigation software which you may have bought a licence for and installed.
I hope this has put your mind at rest.
I hope that this information meets with your requirements, should you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact me again.
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Really HTC? Piracy is the reason you lock your phones down? Give me a break.
Anyway, just thought some of you might find it interesting. It's certainly opened my eyes a bit.
[Edit] I'm actually quite tempted to ask them if they directly support piracy by providing a bootloader unlocking service...

Catnap said:
[Edit] I'm actually quite tempted to ask them if they directly support piracy by providing a bootloader unlocking service...
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LOL!!!!
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Very interesting
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4g with Beats

That's too funny, good job HTC. I rooted my phone for the exact opposite reason, to remove all the bloat **** they put on it.

Wait.. what?
Nice HTC.

Lol, I rooted my phone to use a better rom then stock

there is android "warez" out there, and i'm sure some people root just for that.

I thought it was because of the amount of fraud people commit when they brick their phones. You can install pirated apps without rooting ...

aNYthing24 said:
I thought it was because of the amount of fraud people commit when they brick their phones. You can install pirated apps without rooting ...
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^ same... I don't understand this thread. Someone enlighten me! You can get pirated apps regardless of whether or not you root... so I don't get why:
a) your friend asekd that question
b) HTC would give such a response
I thought HTC would refer to applications that could somehow break your phone, not pirated apps. The rep who did the response screwed that up! Can't blame all of HTC, it's not all too fair ( gotta back them up a bit )
I'm just totally confused.. I thought HTC (like anything24 said) would worry about the amount of fraud when they eff up their phones as opposed to "pirated apps." Unfortunately, as of right now.. those will always exist!

HTC falled to realize that you don't need to root your phone in other to run pirated apps. OMG grow up HTC
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KAwAtA said:
^ same... I don't understand this thread. Someone enlighten me! You can get pirated apps regardless of whether or not you root... so I don't get why:
a) your friend asekd that question
b) HTC would give such a response
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Because of this bit:
Should our engineers determine that the fault you are experiencing is caused by physical damage, wear and tear or illegal software, it will not be covered by warranty. The repair will be chargeable and we will send you a quote. Should you not wish to pay that quote, there will be an approximate £25 diagnosis, shipping & handling fee to have the device returned to you and not repaired.
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... which are the standard warranty claim terms. He asked out of curiosity (and because I thought it'd be interesting to find out what "illegal software" means), and their response is in the first post.

ok this is ridiculous, HTC...
on a side note, the OP's avatar really suits this post LOL

inspiron2 said:
ok this is ridiculous, HTC...
on a side note, the OP's avatar really suits this post LOL
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This one fits pretty well too =)
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Why would you need rooted phone to install pirate (cracked) apps?
You can download any cracked apk and simple install it from any file explorer on any phone since ever..HTC is just full of bull**** sometimes..

ivicask said:
Why would you need rooted phone to install pirate (cracked) apps?
You can download any cracked apk and simple install it from any file explorer on any phone since ever..HTC is just full of bull**** sometimes..
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Yep. It annoys/amuses me that the frontline people at customer support won't know the ins-and-outs of anything more than installing apps or performing a reset on the phone, so they're told by someone more senior that "this is why rooting = bad". Well, that's my reasoning anyway, as this stance on rooting makes zero sense to me.

KAwAtA said:
^ same... I don't understand this thread. Someone enlighten me! You can get pirated apps regardless of whether or not you root... so I don't get why:
a) your friend asekd that question
b) HTC would give such a response
I thought HTC would refer to applications that could somehow break your phone, not pirated apps. The rep who did the response screwed that up! Can't blame all of HTC, it's not all too fair ( gotta back them up a bit )
I'm just totally confused.. I thought HTC (like anything24 said) would worry about the amount of fraud when they eff up their phones as opposed to "pirated apps." Unfortunately, as of right now.. those will always exist!
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What Htc is trying to say is Root your phone all you want but dont come crying back to us when all goes south!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kinda odd statement fro HTC considering that anyone can install "pirated" apps rooted or not,I used to have on my HTC Desire (not rooted) 2 pirated apps and the reason was that paid apps weren't available in my country nearly 1.5 years ago .today on my sensation I have 49 paid apps that I bought from the market and 4 free apps afterall the amount of money somebody has to pay for an app its very small and very affordable.
If they want really to protect the customers they should stop using malware such as CIQ . Everything else is rubbish the people they don't want to pay for apps they will never do and HTC can't do nothing about it.
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like said before, that was a statement from one of their reps. i work in the insurance business, and half of those reps can't agree on the same thing most of the time. I call back, get a different person, and get a tottally different answer.

i better not get dust under my screen lol

I sent back a rooted phone for repair (desire) and they didn't say anything about it, however it was on standard rom
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STRAIGHT FACTS about the bootloader unlock from moto

Please sticky this if you want so people actually understand.
So, Go drink a beer and celebrate (but not by posting stupid stuff in the forum) Motorola has finally released their Bootloader unlock tool.
This is very similar to what HTC did a while back. Basically you get a code from your phone, submit it to moto, they void your warranty, they give you an unlock code, you unlock your bootloader.
Now, the bad news: Currently it only supports the new photon Q
Why you say, well I can actually answer that for you: In order to get the needed info from your phone you must run oem get_unlock_data in fastboot. This IS NOT supported on the bootloader of any previous phones, which means it will not work.
Now, Motorola has said they will be adding more devices soon, which seems to me to imply that they mean older devices, not just new ones as they come out.
HTC had the same issue. They fixed it by releasing an update to the phones that just flashed a new bootloader that allowed the oem stuff.
So bottom line is we are not yet supported and may never get an unlock, but hopefully moto will enable us to unlock our phones soon.
Just the fact that they have given us this tool in the first place is a huge leap.
Link to the tool: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a

*conspiracy theory implying that the delayed soak/OTA for ICS for our phone is the result of them adding this feature to it last minute*

Silas0220 said:
*conspiracy theory implying that the delayed soak/OTA for ICS for our phone is the result of them adding this feature to it last minute*
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Wishful thinking

Silas0220 said:
*conspiracy theory implying that the delayed soak/OTA for ICS for our phone is the result of them adding this feature to it last minute*
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Amen to that!
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Seeing as how I thought moto was going to unlock the bl's last year,I won't be holding my breath
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Motorola lied and I'm still locked mb865

mtnlion said:
Seeing as how I thought moto was going to unlock the bl's last year,I won't be holding my breath
Motorola lied and I'm still locked mb865
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Asked support...
I sent customer support a short message asking when and if the Atrix 2 would be supported with that tool. This is the reply:
Dear [REDACTED],
Thanks for reaching out to Motorola. We have reviewed your e-mail and we are ready to help.
Regarding your concern, Motorola's primary focus is the security of our end users and protection of their data, while also meeting carrier, partner and legal requirements. The Atrix 2 and a majority of Android consumer devices on the market today have a secured bootloader.
The technology is not loaded with the purpose of preventing a consumer device from functioning, but rather ensuring for the user that the device only runs on updated and tested versions of software. If a device attempts to boot with unapproved software, it will go into recovery mode, and can re-boot once approved software is re-installed. Checking for a valid software configuration is a common practice within the industry to protect the user against potential malicious software threats. Motorola has been a long time advocate of open platforms and provides a number of resources to developers to foster the ecosystem including tools and access to devices for developers via MOTODEV at
[REDACTED because links].
For the link that you have provided, it only supports the Motorola Photon Q and additional devices launching in the future. Each device that ships with an unlockable bootloader requires not only internal development work but also agreements and testing with carriers; thus, the option of having an unlockable bootloader will require consideration on a case-by-case basis for each device and each region.
We hope that you find this information useful and we look forward to assisting you in the future.
For information about Motorola products and services, please visit us at [REDACTED because links]
Thank you for contacting Motorola e-mail support.
Best Regards,
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This is open to interpretation, but it doesn't seem like the Atrix 2 is on their agenda.

Recombobulator said:
I sent customer support a short message asking when and if the Atrix 2 would be supported with that tool. This is the reply:
This is open to interpretation, but it doesn't seem like the Atrix 2 is on their agenda.
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that is the same thing they always send regarding bootloaders, never changes

Silas0220 said:
*conspiracy theory implying that the delayed soak/OTA for ICS for our phone is the result of them adding this feature to it last minute*
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actually a moto support person sort of said so. When I asked when they would put in the ability to run oem fastboot commands they said it was being added to a future upgrade. I asked if that meant the ICS OTA and they said "they cannot share that information"

lkrasner said:
actually a moto support person sort of said so. When I asked when they would put in the ability to run oem fastboot commands they said it was being added to a future upgrade. I asked if that meant the ICS OTA and they said "they cannot share that information"
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Could this possibly explain the ns bootloader in the leak?
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Scottyfer said:
Could this possibly explain the ns bootloader in the leak?
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sort of, but not really, that one is unlocked, not just capable of having the commands run

lkrasner said:
sort of, but not really, that one is unlocked, not just capable of having the commands run
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Oh. I thought the ns was just capable of being unlocked not pre unlocked.
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Tweet from Motorola says unlocking older models "not currently in the plan"
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Twee...lder-models-not-currently-in-the-plan_id33589

techsavvy.jaz said:
Tweet from Motorola says unlocking older models "not currently in the plan"
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Twee...lder-models-not-currently-in-the-plan_id33589
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Oh that game plan may make me buy a new phone,however it wont be motorola. If they unlock this one I MIGHT buy another moto but it's doubtful. Too much of that bridge has been burned.

mtnlion said:
Oh that game plan may make me buy a new phone,however it wont be motorola. If they unlock this one I MIGHT buy another moto but it's doubtful. Too much of that bridge has been burned.
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+1