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Another Sprint TP2 WM6.5 Upgrade Rumor

Take it for what it's worth... I emailed the Sprint account rep that handles our corporate account and told him I needed a release date on WM6.5 for the TP2 or I was going to send my oders to Verizon. Within 10 minutes I had responses from 3 other individuals at Sprint. The first said it was do out within the next few days. The second said it was supposed to be March 12, but that date had been pushed back. The third said it had been pushed from the 12th to the 19th. My rep promised to "stay on top of it" and let me know if that date changes. We'll see.
EDIT: I guess I can't edit my subject, but it should've said "WM6.5" oops.

helirob said:
Take it for what it's worth... I emailed the Sprint account rep that handles our corporate account and told him I needed a release date on WM6.5 for the TP2 or I was going to send my oders to Verizon. Within 10 minutes I had responses from 3 other individuals at Sprint. The first said it was do out within the next few days. The second said it was supposed to be March 12, but that date had been pushed back. The third said it had been pushed from the 12th to the 19th. My rep promised to "stay on top of it" and let me know if that date changes. We'll see.
EDIT: I guess I can't edit my subject, but it should've said "WM6.5" oops.
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lets hope you have a reliable source, cause if you dont be prepared for some big flames

So his sources all have different dates. So it seems his information is completely unreliable.

As all the other threads posted within the past week or so claiming WM65 update was coming out on March 10th, 12th, 15th, 17th, 19th lol...
I'll believe it when I see it..

Sprint's promisses...
I design and manage applications for a company that has 500 Rhodium devices with Sprint and have spoken numerous times to many folks with various levels of technical expertise about their release date and a list of features they are backing into their "offficial ROM". Every time I get a different answer and some date in the near future...the dates have come and gone like messianic profecies.
I have tested compatibility of our apps with many of the of XDA cooked ROMs and know they will work well. Unfortunately, not all end users want to use custom ROMs for fear of bricking their devices (and creating me more work! I have brought so many bricked devices back I do not even recomend it anymore! They never read properly!)
So...Do not put your faith in Sprint or any other carrier, we are numbers to them. So until our numbers increase and we go elsewhere we do not have power to dictate or demand. Thus, we wait... or break free and flash away the pain.

I guess that was my point with this thread. 3 replies from Sprint, 3 different answers. Even though one of them gave a date, the other two responses make it seem questionable. I pushed the issue a little further, telling them they're losing business because of this, but they still couldn't come up with specific answers. Now I think that the problem is not that they don't care about the customers, but that they just might be that screwed up and no one really does know what's going on.

There does seem to be some confirmation of this over at PPCGeeks.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=114284

Well PPCGeeks appears to have heard the same thing.
http://www.ppcgeeks.com/2010/03/16/official-sprint-wm6-5-update-for-tp2-coming-this-month/
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Of course scheduled and actual release are two very different things.

Why is this here? I mean honestly, WHY? Isn't it enough all the other sites are quoting rumors as "fact"? Do we have to do it as well?
This thread should be closed.

AMEN! Close this! So many rumors. Either it's going to happen or not.

I'm going camping this weekend and I'm praying for my upgrade before I lose service or I'm going to be going through "upgrade-withdrawal" all weekend.

Just got the word from my Sprint Business rep.
My business rep just confirmed! He sent me this from his internal memo.
FYI:
Start: 3.19.10
Details: A software update is available for the HTC Touch Pro 2 on 03/19/10.
Fixes, Feature Updates and Enhancements
The software upgrade provides several key enhancements for your HTC Touch Pro2:
Upgraded OS to Windows Mobile 6.5
Added HTC Sense UI enhancements
Improved Social Networking integration
Includes a variety of minor bug fixes
Enjoy the updates on the 19th.

The WP6.5 ROM for the Sprint Touch Pro 2 is out!!!
I am downloading it now....
Go to:
htc.com/us/support/touch-pro2-sprint/downloads

Does anyone have this mirrored yet? I'm getting 11kb/sec from HTC

helirob said:
Does anyone have this mirrored yet? I'm getting 11kb/sec from HTC
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From :
http://www.ppcgeeks.com
ftp://up.ppcgeeks.com/Touch Pro 2/S...RS_2.32WF_NV_SPCS_2.20_0224_PRL60660_Ship.exe
many more mirrors there....

Htc unlocked!

"There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC
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Props to HTC!

H!T!C! H!T!C!

now thats good news!

glad to hear that~~

Excellent...let the games begin! Will this include the Sensation?

According to engadget;
The homebrew community may mourn HTC's Thunderbolt, Incredible S, Sensation and EVO 3D, but the company's controversial policy of locking bootloaders is no more.
So guess that means sensation is still a jail cell.

Kailkti said:
According to engadget;
The homebrew community may mourn HTC's Thunderbolt, Incredible S, Sensation and EVO 3D, but the company's controversial policy of locking bootloaders is no more.
So guess that means sensation is still a jail cell.
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I really think they're going to do the sensation as well its there other flagship dual why would they not ?
virus kingdom port b112

Hell yeah!!!!
galaxys said:
Let the games begin!! HTC still rocks!!
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The best phone manufacturer on the market just got better.
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Source:
http://www.facebook.com/HTC
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Hell yeah!!!!
Source:
http://www.facebook.com/HTC
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...should at least credit me for my screenshot lol.

Let's hope Motorola follows suit.
Now if HTC allows you to disable Sense, I will be impressed.

HTC unlocks a new journey!
Our Voices were heard, this is truly a great company with "US" in mind. Thank you HTC now we can continue our journey together and make HTC better. Looking forward to purchasing the HTC Evo 3D!! From a developers point of and consumers we TRULY appreciate it Mr. Chou and HTC for giving us the ability to innovate with you side by side.

This is fantastic news! Thank you HTC for listening to us.

Desire S MIGHT have its bootloader unlocked by HTC

I have been talking to some HTC guy on the live chat support. I asked whether the Desire S will be unlocked alongside the Sensation, and he said:
"HTC intends to provide a method to unlock all the phones that were shipped with a locked bootloader."
Take this as a grain of salt, as this guy could be wrong
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Why wait? AlpharevX works fine.

My phone has a different HBOOT version, and that'll mean downgrading. Instead of going through all that, I may as well wait for it to be officially supported. Plus there aren't any good ROMS for the DS at the moment. Hopefully CM7 gets developed for the DS.

spagmuff said:
My phone has a different HBOOT version, and that'll mean downgrading. Instead of going through all that, I may as well wait for it to be officially supported. Plus there aren't any good ROMS for the DS at the moment. Hopefully CM7 gets developed for the DS.
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Ah, gutted.
Must admit, I'm wandering if there's a ROM worth upgrading too. Sense 3.0 would be nice, but I'm quite happy with stock + Super User rights. I only really use it for Ad Blocking!

Dude should've got some more info. Like when and how exactly were they gonna implement this would it be via FOTA or PC. How will it affect warranty issues e.t.c

othis is last post on fb from htc about bootloader
**UPDATE 7/10**
We wanted to provide an update on HTC’s progress with bringing bootloader unlocking to our newest phones. We know how excited some of you are for this capability, and we’ve put significant resources behind making this change as soon as possible. While we wish we could flip a simple switch and unlock all bootloaders across our device portfolio, this is actually a complex challenge that requires a new software build and extensive testing to deliver the best possible customer experience.
We’re thrilled to announce today that software updates to support bootloader unlocking will begin rolling out in August for the global HTC Sensation, followed by the HTC Sensation 4G on T-Mobile USA and the HTC EVO 3D on Sprint. We’re in the testing phase for the unlocking capability now, and we expect it to be fully operational by early September for devices that have received the software updates. We'll continue rolling out the unlocking capability over time to other devices as part of maintenance releases and new shipments.
HTC continues its commitment to unlocking bootloaders and supporting the developer community. Because of the importance of this community to us, please expect an update on this about every few weeks as we make progress toward launch. Thank you for your patience and continued support!

My support issue with HTC
Q1: When will (as announced on Facebook, http://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/10150307320018084) the bootloader for the "HTC Desire S" be unlocked?
A1 (HTC): Thank you for contacting HTC regarding your mobile phone HTC Desire S.
I understand that you wish to know when the bootloader will be unlocked.
Regarding your query our last official communicates says: We are currently developing new bootloader unlocked software for your phone. HTC is still committed to allowing our customers to unlock the bootloaders if they wish, however we are still implementing the policy and many updates were already finalized prior to our change in policy. We apologize for the inconvenience, but be assured that we are working on a solution for our customers and our commitment has not changed. Please stay tuned to our official channels for ongoing updates on how we will be implementing this policy. Thank you for your patience.
Q2: What is the ETA? Are we talking weeks, months or years until the bootloader can be unlocked. Can you say that the "Desire S" will receive a unlocked bootloader 100%?
A2 (HTC): Thank you for contacting us again. Unfortunately there isn't further information regarding which phones and when is going to be done. For fresher news on this I suggest to check often our page in Facebook. I hope that this information meets with your requirements, should you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact us again. If this response has resolved your query, and you have no further questions please close this ticket by following the link below.
Q3: Hi, is it possible to get any kind of commitment from you if and when your phones will get the unlocked bootloaders. As for now the whole hype is just a marketing activity as there is not a single HTC model with unlocked bootloader available. Look at SonyEricsson for example, they not just announced the unlocked bootloaders, they also published a seperate webpage where you can get the necessary software/downloads: http://unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com/. Hope that HTC is able to show the same commitement to their announcements!
A3 (HTC): Thank you for contacting HTC regarding Desire S.
HTC is a forward thinking company and appreciates any feedback received from its customers; your comments have been passed to the appropriate department for consideration.
Should you have any further feedback, please do not hesitate to contact us again.
Thank you for contacting HTC Support
I myself unlocked with AlpharevX and i am now a happy Virtuous Unity user

I have again spoken to another guy on chat. He said the following:
"At the moment it is only the Sensation and the Desire S"
I really hope this is true. I also have an ass service provider (Vodafone) which will probably block the update from coming through.

mikeyd85 said:
Ah, gutted.
Must admit, I'm wandering if there's a ROM worth upgrading too. Sense 3.0 would be nice, but I'm quite happy with stock + Super User rights. I only really use it for Ad Blocking!
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Hi
Do you mean rooted, but with stock? I thought superuser was for rooted only?

al89nut said:
Hi
Do you mean rooted, but with stock? I thought superuser was for rooted only?
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You can have superuser with stock.

The superuser app in the Market says not so -quote "This app requires that you already have root"

spagmuff said:
I have again spoken to another guy on chat. He said the following:
"At the moment it is only the Sensation and the Desire S"
I really hope this is true. I also have an ass service provider (Vodafone) which will probably block the update from coming through.
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I believe that sensation and evo 3d the flag ship devices will get the boot loader un lock first and before the DS
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA Premium App

alexander.kilian said:
A3 (HTC): Thank you for contacting HTC regarding Desire S.
HTC is a forward thinking company and appreciates any feedback received from its customers; your comments have been passed to the appropriate department for consideration.
Should you have any further feedback, please do not hesitate to contact us again.
Thank you for contacting HTC Support
I myself unlocked with AlpharevX and i am now a happy Virtuous Unity user
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Haha, classic piece of corporate bull****
They may do it, indeed looks very likely, but thinks alex has the right way of thinking - alpharevx
Peace

ben_pyett said:
I believe that sensation and evo 3d the flag ship devices will get the boot loader un lock first and before the DS
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA Premium App
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True, He didn't mention the EVO 3D, as this was in the UK. We don't have it (unfortunately) Maybe they are planning to unlock the flagships, then the "S" series, as these are relatively new and popular.

By the time HTC unlock the phone i think almost everyone unlock using alpharevx

alpharevx rules! who is waiting for HTC to act?

+1 I am satisfied with it as is for nw...

I've got a 0.98.2000 bootloader so i'll wait for Alpharevx to unlock these to....

jepe63 said:
I've got a 0.98.2000 bootloader so i'll wait for Alpharevx to unlock these to....
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me too.
unless htc unlocks it first.
it's so frustrating. i only want root so that i can remove the bloatware from my telco.
i'm quite happy with the rom otherwise.

Yep , same here , except to remove vodafone sh**t
(and maybe flash rom but not decided yet )

HTC - STOP False advertising petition...

Firstly, let me say that this is not a class action type petition.
This is a discussion and petition asking the Manufacturer HTC to honor it's advertised position, made by CEO Peter Chou on May 26th, promising to ship all future devices with unlocked bootloaders.
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You can see the statement yourself at: http://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/10150307320018084
I don't want to add to the legal troubles of my favorite manufacturer, I just want them to correct their mistake, unlock the bootloaders as promised & apologize for what I am sure was an inadvertent oversight that will be corrected in a few hours or a day or two.
You simply can't make advertisement directed toward increasing sales off new devices to developers & power users (the folks that review and fix bugs for you freely in many cases) and then break that bond, that trust built over the last decade.
Also, don't even try to say that you aren't using these social media outlets to market and advertise. I have been getting your posts and tweets, advertising your devices all week.
While your actions are certainly in violation of numerous trade regulations and laws, I don't care at this point. I don't want to make a name litigating over these issues, I just want the manufacturer that I support, to keep their word and market/advertise their devices in a fair and ethical manner. I am not participating in the boycott thread & I'm not asking people to stop buying HTC products. Just the opposite in fact. I want you to be successful. But I also want you to honor our relationship and keep your promises.
Please, take notice and make this right.
I ask all XDA members to support HTC in doing the right thing & pledge your support by joining this discussion and adding your name to this petition.
We, the members engaged in discussion in this forum thread ask HTC to comply with their advertised & promised claim of May 26th, that all future devices would have unlocked bootloaders.
We appreciate your timely rectification of this issue HTC.
Sincerely,
The above & below named participants.
EDIT: Please also sign the petition here: http://www.groubal.com/htc-vivid-has-locked-bootloader-contrary-to-statements-by-the-company/
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I agree with all the above. Tired of this crap, didn't expect it from HTC. HTC phones have always had the greatest development, but that won't carry on if they continue to lie and do this.

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slapshot30 said:
I agree with all the above. Tired of this crap, didn't expect it from HTC. HTC phones have always had the greatest development, but that won't carry on if they continue to lie and do this.
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Lying about S-LCD displays is another reason I avoid HTC phones. HTC used to be acceptably decent. Now they seem to lie their rears off.

Although I am a die hard Samsung user, I do support your cause for HTC to have unlocked bootloaders now and in the future. What they do could affect how other manufacturers treat their devices. I wouldn't want to see the same thing happen to Samsung phones either. Plus this also stifles development by the independent community as well.

+1
I would like my bootloader unlocked plus an ice cream sandwich for the wait. Thanks.

HTC, please stop lying to us

I'm not an HTC guy but i agree this is damaging for the entire community and i'm sure there are HTC guys on here so they can't play dumb

i am a HTC fan.
i agree with OP
LYING MAKE ME MAD, HULK SMASH!

Agree with OP..
Thats the only reason why i never bought VIVID...

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Wouldn't mind getting htc products. This I why I don't.
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+1
I posted on Twitter and Facebook. Returning my Vivid and never buying HTC ever again if unlock doesn't come this week :-(
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using xda premium

Add me to the ranks who support this. I also posted this to a thread I started 2wks ago on the htc forums.
http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/182/t/14430.aspx
Posted to FB and G+ as well as Public w/ request to reshare!

I fully support that HTC should honor their promise, and unlock HTC bootloader. See my posts on the HTC Vivid forums.

I fully support this petition.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using xda premium

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I've always went with HTC phones, and I was considering going with another manufacturer until HTC made the bootloader statement. Now that I see they are not true to their own words, and I can't even trust a statement made by the CEO, how can I continue to trust your devices or quality.
I personally make decisions in my company regarding the devices we use in the field, and have mostly chosen HTC phones to meet our needs. If you continue this line of blame-shifting back and forth between it's AT&T's fault and AT&T says it's your problem, (we all know better considering other devices from other manufacturers are unlocked or unlockable on AT&T) you are going to loose a large contract, as I will have to find another manufacturer, and possibly another service provider.

adelmundo said:
Although I am a die hard Samsung user, I do support your cause for HTC to have unlocked bootloaders now and in the future. What they do could affect how other manufacturers treat their devices. I wouldn't want to see the same thing happen to Samsung phones either. Plus this also stifles development by the independent community as well.
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Hav to agree with you htc shouldn't be lying cauz i don't want them to be an example for Samsung.

+100 im shocked the evo 3d owners got them to unlock the bootloader. And they posted that statement when we all told them how angry we were they locked our bootloader. I cant believe tuey flat out lied about unlocking future devices tisk tisk.

It is not HTC that is locking the bootloaders. It is the carriers. They lock them because people brick their phone and claim them under warranty which costs the carrier a fortune. There is a legal battle over this currently.
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Small rant to Motorola for not keeping their word

Update:
Funny enough, I posted my rant a day before Motorola decided to provide an update on this.
http://phandroid.com/2017/04/10/moto-z-focrce-play-motorola-power-pack-mod-delayed/
I'm still disappointed on how "March" became "Spring".
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This rant is specifically due to the Moto power pack that needed to be available in March 2017, and Motorola didn't keep their word.
If you don't care about moto mods, nevermind this thread for you, please be respectful to my opinion.
One of the reasons I bought this phone is for the Moto mods and the open development (with incentives) they promised for new moto mods.
When Motorola walked in the stage and announced all of the 2017 moto mods updates, and tagged the new power pack to be available in March, I was sold on it and probably to the Z2.
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Sadly, it is April 8th and still nothing about the mods, and specifically nothing about this new power pack "available in March", I am very understanding of companies not being able to meet their goals but the lack of communication is unacceptable.
I've tweeted them twice about this but they didn't care to respond.
If they walk to Mobile World Congress and promise something to an specific month, they should at least care to provide updates on the topic, if they can't execute on a single battery mod, I here warn people interested on this phone, that they wait to the Moto mods they want to be available before buying a Z-family phone. Just logic thinking, based on facts.
We can't allow companies to just talk out of their butt and then walk off like nothing happened, we paid a LOT of money, directly or indirectly, for this phone.
This is the problem with the industry overall, OEMs do whatever they want and we allow them to, these companies care less and less about commiting to customers and more about pleasing their directors and CEOs.
No wonder why Apple is such a big success, they too talk out of their butt sometimes, but I have to give them credit for their commitment to customers, and say that this is one of the obvious reasons of why Motorola is just a joke sub-company of Lenovo.
You walk in with an in-warranty, truly malfunctioning iPhone 7 to an Apple store, get the phone troubleshooting on site, and walk out with a new iPhone.
You try to exchange an in-warranty, truly malfunctioning Moto Z, and good freaking luck with that. I am serious, good luck, you might get a replacement in 3 days if you need to, hopefully.
http://www.droid-life.com/2016/04/15/motorola-warranty-customer-service-disaster/
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/cell_phones/motorola.html
They really need to get their crap together...

Motorola support has gone downhill ever since the Lenovo takeover.
Though from what I've heard, it's also pretty bad before they were Googli-fied.

D13H4RD2L1V3 said:
Motorola support has gone downhill ever since the Lenovo takeover.
Though from what I've heard, it's also pretty bad before they were Googli-fied.
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I was gonna say the same thing.
Also they voided my warranty when I unlocked my device. This never happened with LG or HTC. I've claimed my warranty even are rooting the device multiple times.