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Just got a Samsung Mesmerize for USCC and was told that Froyo will be pushing out soon. Should I root and update to leaked 2.2 or wait for official?
Also I was hearing that once Official Froyo is released Cyanogenmod ROM should become available? Is that correct and/or will more some become available once the Official update is released.
Phillip Fry said:
Just got a Samsung Mesmerize for USCC and was told that Froyo will be pushing out soon. Should I root and update to leaked 2.2 or wait for official?
Also I was hearing that once Official Froyo is released Cyanogenmod ROM should become available? Is that correct and/or will more some become available once the Official update is released.
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It's a personal choice.
If you upgrade your phone at all (even if only doing custom 2.1 installs) you are going to most likely have to use Odin to go back to stock 2.1-update1 in order to install the official release (I'm pretty sure your phone will have to be as it was out of the box to install their update)
And no, cyanogen MOD just doesn't become available once the source is released, there still has to be people to work on building it - but it will be a lot easier to do once we have official source code - then you may see a team get together to build a supported version for the galaxy s model (which we could then port to mes). Also, once we have that we can also expect to see the kernel MOD's make it into 2.2 from 2.1.
My question is, why is everyone so concerned about getting the official drop, when i'ts going to be bloated to hell just like stock 2.1 is? Soon after it drops, you're going to see a custom deodexed and non bloated ROM and a new kernel - so you're most likely going to end up upgrading to that anyway. So in my opinion, upgrade now - then skip the official bloat release and upgrade to our customized version once i'ts complete (built off of the official 2.2 source).
What Version of 2.2 is the most up to date EC10? And it wont update when the official OTA is dropped correct? Its actually for a friend of mine I have a Dinc and only have experience in that.
On a side note. Why is this Odin thing so popular here and not Flashing with Clockwork like on the Dinc?
Phillip Fry said:
So what do you recommend? Its actually for a friend of mine I have a Dinc and only have experience in that.
So if I just root it now (Z4root) will the the official update brake the root? If there is no stable 2.2 ROM yet then I will just wait. Really only need Wireless tether for now. Any and all help is appreciated.
On a side note. Why is this Odin thing so popular here and not Flashing with Clockwork like on the Dinc?
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He already told you what he recommends, get 2.2. The other questions are answered in various threads throughout these forums.
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akellar said:
He already told you what he recommends, get 2.2. The other questions are answered in various threads throughout these forums.
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What he said^
And btw, it isn't an OTA update - it would be downloaded on your PC and installed via Kies. (not sure of the details, but this is what I've heard many times)
2.2 is already at the stores as of yesterday, our tech was given permission to upgrade the Mesmerizes in stock and employee phones, so if you were to buy a new one it'd be running froyo..
I personally got my own i500 upgraded yesterday morning and got to spend the last 24 hours reinstalling all my apps.. USCC should make an announcement on Facebook very soon.
I'm interested in removing some of this bloatware, what would be the best way to do that running the offical 2.2?
MrWright said:
2.2 is already at the stores as of yesterday, our tech was given permission to upgrade the Mesmerizes in stock and employee phones, so if you were to buy a new one it'd be running froyo..
I personally got my own i500 upgraded yesterday morning and got to spend the last 24 hours reinstalling all my apps.. USCC should make an announcement on Facebook very soon.
I'm interested in removing some of this bloatware, what would be the best way to do that running the offical 2.2?
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Install the PnP.
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just use the ec10 pnp. and go with the voodoo kernel. you can always flash back to stock with odin. then you get your warrentee back
Hi guys most of you might find this question silly but there are some of us newcomers who are still getting into this!
So, I rooted my phone, have ROM Manager and CWM Recovery, version 3 and my question is how we're going to update to official GB when it becomes available? Will we do it through official T-Mobile update, or will some of you guys make it available for us?
Thank you all!
Yes...
you should be about to get it either way. If you get the official update you will probably lose root... If you wait a few there will be a rooted version posted by one of the many xda members...
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BobbyDukes707 said:
Yes...
you should be about to get it either way. If you get the official update you will probably lose root... If you wait a few there will be a rooted version posted by one of the many xda members...
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One more dumb question: Why is everybody so excited about the official GB update, when we have right now a few GB leaked versions with some custom ROMs (Bionix from TeamWhiskey, etc... ) available, for which as I hear, many say are excellent? Is this official one gonna be better in any significant way than these custom already out? Thanks! )
krekabl said:
One more dumb question: Why is everybody so excited about the official GB update, when we have right now a few GB leaked versions with some custom ROMs (Bionix from TeamWhiskey, etc... ) available, for which as I hear, many say are excellent? Is this official one gonna be better in any significant way than these custom already out? Thanks! )
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It will come with an official GB kernel and hopefully updated battery drivers and A2DP functionality...Amongst other LG fixes (again, hopefully).
sryan1983 said:
It will come with an official GB kernel and hopefully updated battery drivers and A2DP functionality...Amongst other LG fixes (again, hopefully).
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OK, I get it... So, all these unofficial GBs are sort of limited because they lack these LG stuff they're (hopefully) putting into the official one. That's why it's smart to wait a bit more.
Hopefully it will fix most or all the problems.
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krekabl said:
OK, I get it... So, all these unofficial GBs are sort of limited because they lack these LG stuff they're (hopefully) putting into the official one. That's why it's smart to wait a bit more.
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Yes, that's the case. The leak has issues (which makes sense, it's not a finished build), and almost all Gingerbread mods are based on the leak so they have the same issues. I know CM7 is using the Gingerbread source instead and has fixed a lot of the issues, but not all of them.
The official update is not only going to be completely stable (hopefully) but will come bundled with better drivers/kernel support which will fix most of the common issues with the phone (hopefully).
I've gone through an Over The Air update to Android before, and if it's like what I experienced, you're going to get a pop-up that asks if you want to update now or later. Choose later if you want to keep root, someone here will have the official build rooted probably within the hour but definitely within the first couple of days.
In the mean time though, don't be scared of trying out one of the ROMs that are available. I swear by CM7, but I've heard wonderful things about EagleBlood and Ultimate too.
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Yes, that's the case. The leak has issues (which makes sense, it's not a finished build), and almost all Gingerbread mods are based on the leak so they have the same issues. I know CM7 is using the Gingerbread source instead and has fixed a lot of the issues, but not all of them.
The official update is not only going to be completely stable (hopefully) but will come bundled with better drivers/kernel support which will fix most of the common issues with the phone (hopefully).
I've gone through an Over The Air update to Android before, and if it's like what I experienced, you're going to get a pop-up that asks if you want to update now or later. Choose later if you want to keep root, someone here will have the official build rooted probably within the hour but definitely within the first couple of days.
In the mean time though, don't be scared of trying out one of the ROMs that are available. I swear by CM7, but I've heard wonderful things about EagleBlood and Ultimate too.
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I have heard that official updating the rooted phone could actually brick it? And when a mod is nightly version, does it mean it it not completely stable? I am interested in CM7, but I could not find a stable version on their site.
Thanks!
i have question also since it's related to thread title. i'm running stock right now but rooted. once i update to gingerbread cm7, will i have to install all apps and settings all over? and will call log and stuff like that disappear also?
dn3g3l said:
i have question also since it's related to thread title. i'm running stock right now but rooted. once i update to gingerbread cm7, will i have to install all apps and settings all over? and will call log and stuff like that disappear also?
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You should be able to get all of that stuff after startup my hitting the square boxes in the initial setup. Worked for me yesterday with the Eagleblood 2.3.4 ROM, when someone recommended it to me rather than Titaniumbackup which screwed up my phone a lot because I went from Froyo to GB
dn3g3l said:
i have question also since it's related to thread title. i'm running stock right now but rooted. once i update to gingerbread cm7, will i have to install all apps and settings all over? and will call log and stuff like that disappear also?
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When I did an OTA update, it kept all of my apps and settings. I can't remember if it preserved call log.
I have heard that official updating the rooted phone could actually brick it? And when a mod is nightly version, does it mean it it not completely stable? I am interested in CM7, but I could not find a stable version on their site.
Thanks!
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I don't know if it will brick or not, my OTA was not rooted. And CM7 nightlies are NOT completely stable, but they're on build 58 by now and the ROM works perfectly fine. The only issue I can see with the phone is the top bar they added to the notifications menu that has toggle-able settings like WIFI, GPS, etc sometimes doesn't show up and in the camera, it calls both cameras "back" instead of one being "front".
But if you're concerned with stability that much, use the leak or EagleBlood.
Will I have to manually DL the GB update when it comes out? I'm guessing yes. The other option, I would guess, would be to revert back to stock.
To download manually would be only if somone post a Nandroid of their GB and then you can do a restore. Otherwise stay stock and whenever the update is ready just dowload it via OTA (over the air)
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ok
thanks. I'll revert when the OTA is out.
no need...im almost positive that official gb release will b available on xda before the ota ever hits your phone...plus it'll be pre-rooted and everything...i recommend stayn rooted and just wait for it...in the meantime cm7-rc1 should be out any day now...the latest nightly is extremely stable with the only problems I know of is ad2p is still broke (waiting for lg to fix) and gps is still a little slow to lock...other then that is a very solid build
I personally went back to stock and unrooted. Stock has been the most reliable for me and I want to receive the update ota versus an image someone else made, just a personal preference.
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What do you mean, the Nexus S and the Nexus One both officially have 2.3.4
I think you are referring to 2.4 (Ice Cream Sandwich)
As of right now, only Honeycomb (3.0) supports dual cores (fully) which is why tablets run it. Nexus S was the first to run Gingerbread and, like all Nexus's, ran up to a stable version (2.3.3) which was then officially released to the Nexus One as a stable build. 2.3.4 was recently announced but I think the only benefit of that is Google Talk's Video Chat and other minor tweaks. I guarantee the Nexus S will get 2.4 officially pushed OTA and probably even the Nexus One (as they aren't so different). Although I suspect LG will be the next manufacture to produce the next (and first) Nexus phone running on 2.4 later this year.
2.4 is the upcoming version which will be the first steps into uniting the tablet version of Android (HoneyComb) with the existing OS running on phones so that they can merge and focus on one OS instead of 2 again.
As far as updates, I don't know how LG does it. Coming from a Nexus One, GOOGLE pushed updates to use OverTheAir, but Samsungs and others give you a manual download link anyway. Plus I wouldn't return to stock when there is no date in sight. For all we know, you could return to stock for 2 months only to get a manual update anyway. Plus any rom based off the stock (Eaglesblood and a few others) will get the OTA update notification. Only AOSP roms such as Cyanogen and CM based roms won't. I think it is a feature they physically turn off.
Best bet is to hold onto your panties, run whatever works best right now. In the event that the OTA and released, you THEN return to stock and grab the update. Be warned that we may not be able to root the GB update right away thus you'd be stuck with it.
CM7 is newer anyway.
2.4 is an upcoming update which will still be called Gingerbread, it will allow dual-core apps to run on single-core phones. It's more of a legacy thing than anything else.
Ice Cream Sandwich will be 3.1, and Google will probably release a new Nexus phone that runs it natively.
I know many have said they are gonna flash to stock and stuff for the ota. Is this really necessary? I would need to stay unrooted, which would take restoring my apps out of the question. Won't we have an Odin file on Tuesday anyway? plus I'd hate to not get it on the 1st day.
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Never flash an ota while rooted wait for a rooted version usually comes the same day devs are very fast
if I helped in any way hit that thanks button!
Updating ota while rooted could permanently lose root brick phone etc be safe and hold off
if I helped in any way hit that thanks button!
I don't understand the rush to get the OTA. It's an EP4 build, which means is going to be pretty close to the leaks we have right now. If you're rooted, I'd just hold off and wait for someone to post the Odin.
Personally, I'm going to at least wait for the deodexed version and some themes.
Obviously the first 2 didn't read the op. I know you're not supposed to do that. That's why I'm asking, since i really need titanium backup.
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I understand that if you rooted and flashed a deferent kernel you shouldn't accept the OTA, however I just have root and several Bloatware apps frozen with Titanium Back up..... Can I accept the OTA as long as I unfreeze the apps? I have no custom Roms or themes...All I did was flash SU with oden... I don't even have CWR.
Thanks for the patience with the noob question.
if I remember correctly the OTA will not even go through if you're rooted or have any root apps/permissions as there is a script in the download that checks on boot
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anoninja118 said:
if I remember correctly the OTA will not even go through if you're rooted or have any root apps/permissions as there is a script in the download that checks on boot
blazing through on my 4G Droid Charge
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I think it depends on the ROM. Some ROMs have the code in them to stop an OTA update but some don't. I've accepted an OTA while rooted before but I was on a stock rooted ROM and all that happened was I lost root. Not saying that the same will happen with this phone though.
We do not have an ODIN file for this build, and we won't unless someone leaks it.
So, if you want the OTA radio's you HAVE to accept the OTA, if you are satisfied w/ EP4P you don't need to do anything. After the OTA is out, someone will post a CWM flashable zip that will give you the ROM/Kernel and keep root.
But does anyone know what the version the OTA is going to be?
trparky said:
But does anyone know what the version the OTA is going to be?
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EP4D, supposedly an older 2.3.5 build than what p3/TBH just released but according to them should be similar
anoninja118 said:
EP4D, supposedly an older 2.3.5 build than what p3/TBH just released but according to them should be similar
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It should be rethemed too.
anoninja118 said:
EP4D, supposedly an older 2.3.5 build than what p3/TBH just released but according to them should be similar
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The version of source code that was released is EP4D but all anyone knows about the OTA is that it is EP4. The source code that was released and the OTA that is coming are 2 different build versions.
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The version of source code that was released is EP4D but all anyone knows about the OTA is that it is EP4. The source code that was released and the OTA that is coming are 2 different build versions.
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That makes no sense!
Why release a ROM package yet have different source released?
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I just keep wondering if I should go ahead and upgrade my brother's phone now which is running GummyCharged GBE 2.1 which is based upon EP1W to the new EP4P ROM that was leaked or should I wait for a possible new version (newer that EP4P) and load that instead.
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That makes no sense!
Why release a ROM package yet have different source released?
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I just keep wondering if I should go ahead and upgrade my brother's phone now which is running GummyCharged GBE 2.1 which is based upon EP1W to the new EP4P ROM that was leaked or should I wait for a possible new version (newer that EP4P) and load that instead.
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In the words of imnuts, it makes perfect sense. Manufacturers like Samsung and such are constantly sending OTA updates to the Carriers. The Carrier chooses what build get's pushed out as the OTA update. It's quite possible that on older source code got released before an "acceptable" OTA get's pushed out.
Here's what I think happened.
Samsung probably had a stable build with EP4D, but there's always room for improvement so they also produced EP4P. Samsung released the source code for EP4D but Verizon decided not to accept the EP4D build and instead are releasing the EP4P build as the OTA (if in fact the OTA is the EP4P build, no one knows.)
Again, I want everyone reading this to know that this is just my opinion and I am in now way stating all this as fact. So remember that before you reply telling me that I'm wrong.
As to updating your brothers phone, it really wouldn't hurt. After the OTA is released you could always go back to stock then load the OTA. That's up to you and your brother though. Just saying if he ends up not liking the EP4P build or something, it's really not that hard to just change it to something else. (Just a little time consuming is all.)
OK, that sort of makes sense.
But... if you were in my position, spc_hicks09, would you upgrade from GummyCharged GBE 2.1 or would you wait? I've already got my Droid Charge running EP4P and it runs great.
So what do you think? Should I just bite the bullet and load EP4P on his phone?
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OK, that sort of makes sense.
But... if you were in my position, spc_hicks09, would you upgrade from GummyCharged GBE 2.1 or would you wait? I've already got my Droid Charge running EP4P and it runs great.
So what do you think? Should I just bite the bullet and load EP4P on his phone?
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Honestly, I would. However, that's just because I'm the type of person that has to always try to get the latest and greatest lol. I would go ahead an upgrade to the EP4P, if the OTA seems better, then you could always just go back down to stock EE4 then upgrade to the OTA.
I definitely hope the rooted version of the OTA comes out pretty quickly after the release of the regular OTA. I've been loving these other gingerbread releases
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I definitely hope the rooted version of the OTA comes out pretty quickly after the release of the regular OTA. I've been loving these other gingerbread releases
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Danalo said he will be updating Humble within the next week!
last I heard from p3droid that its the other way around, EP4D (2.3.5) is the update being pushed out and EP4P is the newest one that I guess they didn't want/approve or whatever
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I keep seeing all these topics about OTA updates, and Verizon updates, and I feel like I am missing something by not going completely back to stock to update.
Am I?
Because as far as being rooted, I change the ROM I use, the Kernel, some root apps...I don't know.
Basically, is there ANY reason for me to go back to stock to update besides seeing how Official JB looks?
Thanks in advance.
Blutonic said:
I keep seeing all these topics about OTA updates, and Verizon updates, and I feel like I am missing something by not going completely back to stock to update.
Am I?
Because as far as being rooted, I change the ROM I use, the Kernel, some root apps...I don't know.
Basically, is there ANY reason for me to go back to stock to update besides seeing how Official JB looks?
Thanks in advance.
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Official JB (on Verizon) probably won't be out until like.. February of 2013. This update only matters if you have NO SIM problems when texting/calling.
When it comes to Verizon OTA's and being rooted, just wait a few days after its released for devs to re-base their roms on the latest update. If you want to certifiably maintain your root access/unlocked bootloader then it's better to wait and see when devs update their roms/kernels. Also, this is not a Jelly Bean OTA. We are months from a Verizon update to Jelly Bean. I'll be happy to be wrong about my 4.1.1 update estimate.
Here's what the new update entails:
http://support.verizonwireless.com/pdf/system_update/galaxy_s3.pdf
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When it comes to Verizon OTA's and being rooted, just wait a few days after its released for devs to re-base their roms on the latest update. If you want to certifiably maintain your root access/unlocked bootloader then it's better to wait and see when devs update their roms/kernels. Also, this is not a Jelly Bean OTA. We are months from a Verizon update to Jelly Bean. I'll be happy to be wrong about my 4.1.1 update estimate.
Here's what the new update entails:
http://support.verizonwireless.com/pdf/system_update/galaxy_s3.pdf
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Cool, thanks for the info/link.
None of those updates matter to me, so I'm good.
Sticking to custom roms/kernels then.
Blutonic said:
Cool, thanks for the info/link.
None of those updates matter to me, so I'm good.
Sticking to custom roms/kernels then.
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Not a problem at all. I'm just interested to see if it can be rooted using the existing exploits. Less headaches for all the new folks who accept the update.