I know many have said they are gonna flash to stock and stuff for the ota. Is this really necessary? I would need to stay unrooted, which would take restoring my apps out of the question. Won't we have an Odin file on Tuesday anyway? plus I'd hate to not get it on the 1st day.
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Never flash an ota while rooted wait for a rooted version usually comes the same day devs are very fast
if I helped in any way hit that thanks button!
Updating ota while rooted could permanently lose root brick phone etc be safe and hold off
if I helped in any way hit that thanks button!
I don't understand the rush to get the OTA. It's an EP4 build, which means is going to be pretty close to the leaks we have right now. If you're rooted, I'd just hold off and wait for someone to post the Odin.
Personally, I'm going to at least wait for the deodexed version and some themes.
Obviously the first 2 didn't read the op. I know you're not supposed to do that. That's why I'm asking, since i really need titanium backup.
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I understand that if you rooted and flashed a deferent kernel you shouldn't accept the OTA, however I just have root and several Bloatware apps frozen with Titanium Back up..... Can I accept the OTA as long as I unfreeze the apps? I have no custom Roms or themes...All I did was flash SU with oden... I don't even have CWR.
Thanks for the patience with the noob question.
if I remember correctly the OTA will not even go through if you're rooted or have any root apps/permissions as there is a script in the download that checks on boot
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if I remember correctly the OTA will not even go through if you're rooted or have any root apps/permissions as there is a script in the download that checks on boot
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I think it depends on the ROM. Some ROMs have the code in them to stop an OTA update but some don't. I've accepted an OTA while rooted before but I was on a stock rooted ROM and all that happened was I lost root. Not saying that the same will happen with this phone though.
We do not have an ODIN file for this build, and we won't unless someone leaks it.
So, if you want the OTA radio's you HAVE to accept the OTA, if you are satisfied w/ EP4P you don't need to do anything. After the OTA is out, someone will post a CWM flashable zip that will give you the ROM/Kernel and keep root.
But does anyone know what the version the OTA is going to be?
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But does anyone know what the version the OTA is going to be?
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EP4D, supposedly an older 2.3.5 build than what p3/TBH just released but according to them should be similar
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EP4D, supposedly an older 2.3.5 build than what p3/TBH just released but according to them should be similar
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It should be rethemed too.
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EP4D, supposedly an older 2.3.5 build than what p3/TBH just released but according to them should be similar
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The version of source code that was released is EP4D but all anyone knows about the OTA is that it is EP4. The source code that was released and the OTA that is coming are 2 different build versions.
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The version of source code that was released is EP4D but all anyone knows about the OTA is that it is EP4. The source code that was released and the OTA that is coming are 2 different build versions.
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That makes no sense!
Why release a ROM package yet have different source released?
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I just keep wondering if I should go ahead and upgrade my brother's phone now which is running GummyCharged GBE 2.1 which is based upon EP1W to the new EP4P ROM that was leaked or should I wait for a possible new version (newer that EP4P) and load that instead.
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That makes no sense!
Why release a ROM package yet have different source released?
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I just keep wondering if I should go ahead and upgrade my brother's phone now which is running GummyCharged GBE 2.1 which is based upon EP1W to the new EP4P ROM that was leaked or should I wait for a possible new version (newer that EP4P) and load that instead.
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In the words of imnuts, it makes perfect sense. Manufacturers like Samsung and such are constantly sending OTA updates to the Carriers. The Carrier chooses what build get's pushed out as the OTA update. It's quite possible that on older source code got released before an "acceptable" OTA get's pushed out.
Here's what I think happened.
Samsung probably had a stable build with EP4D, but there's always room for improvement so they also produced EP4P. Samsung released the source code for EP4D but Verizon decided not to accept the EP4D build and instead are releasing the EP4P build as the OTA (if in fact the OTA is the EP4P build, no one knows.)
Again, I want everyone reading this to know that this is just my opinion and I am in now way stating all this as fact. So remember that before you reply telling me that I'm wrong.
As to updating your brothers phone, it really wouldn't hurt. After the OTA is released you could always go back to stock then load the OTA. That's up to you and your brother though. Just saying if he ends up not liking the EP4P build or something, it's really not that hard to just change it to something else. (Just a little time consuming is all.)
OK, that sort of makes sense.
But... if you were in my position, spc_hicks09, would you upgrade from GummyCharged GBE 2.1 or would you wait? I've already got my Droid Charge running EP4P and it runs great.
So what do you think? Should I just bite the bullet and load EP4P on his phone?
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OK, that sort of makes sense.
But... if you were in my position, spc_hicks09, would you upgrade from GummyCharged GBE 2.1 or would you wait? I've already got my Droid Charge running EP4P and it runs great.
So what do you think? Should I just bite the bullet and load EP4P on his phone?
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Honestly, I would. However, that's just because I'm the type of person that has to always try to get the latest and greatest lol. I would go ahead an upgrade to the EP4P, if the OTA seems better, then you could always just go back down to stock EE4 then upgrade to the OTA.
I definitely hope the rooted version of the OTA comes out pretty quickly after the release of the regular OTA. I've been loving these other gingerbread releases
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I definitely hope the rooted version of the OTA comes out pretty quickly after the release of the regular OTA. I've been loving these other gingerbread releases
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Danalo said he will be updating Humble within the next week!
last I heard from p3droid that its the other way around, EP4D (2.3.5) is the update being pushed out and EP4P is the newest one that I guess they didn't want/approve or whatever
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Just got a Samsung Mesmerize for USCC and was told that Froyo will be pushing out soon. Should I root and update to leaked 2.2 or wait for official?
Also I was hearing that once Official Froyo is released Cyanogenmod ROM should become available? Is that correct and/or will more some become available once the Official update is released.
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Just got a Samsung Mesmerize for USCC and was told that Froyo will be pushing out soon. Should I root and update to leaked 2.2 or wait for official?
Also I was hearing that once Official Froyo is released Cyanogenmod ROM should become available? Is that correct and/or will more some become available once the Official update is released.
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It's a personal choice.
If you upgrade your phone at all (even if only doing custom 2.1 installs) you are going to most likely have to use Odin to go back to stock 2.1-update1 in order to install the official release (I'm pretty sure your phone will have to be as it was out of the box to install their update)
And no, cyanogen MOD just doesn't become available once the source is released, there still has to be people to work on building it - but it will be a lot easier to do once we have official source code - then you may see a team get together to build a supported version for the galaxy s model (which we could then port to mes). Also, once we have that we can also expect to see the kernel MOD's make it into 2.2 from 2.1.
My question is, why is everyone so concerned about getting the official drop, when i'ts going to be bloated to hell just like stock 2.1 is? Soon after it drops, you're going to see a custom deodexed and non bloated ROM and a new kernel - so you're most likely going to end up upgrading to that anyway. So in my opinion, upgrade now - then skip the official bloat release and upgrade to our customized version once i'ts complete (built off of the official 2.2 source).
What Version of 2.2 is the most up to date EC10? And it wont update when the official OTA is dropped correct? Its actually for a friend of mine I have a Dinc and only have experience in that.
On a side note. Why is this Odin thing so popular here and not Flashing with Clockwork like on the Dinc?
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So what do you recommend? Its actually for a friend of mine I have a Dinc and only have experience in that.
So if I just root it now (Z4root) will the the official update brake the root? If there is no stable 2.2 ROM yet then I will just wait. Really only need Wireless tether for now. Any and all help is appreciated.
On a side note. Why is this Odin thing so popular here and not Flashing with Clockwork like on the Dinc?
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He already told you what he recommends, get 2.2. The other questions are answered in various threads throughout these forums.
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akellar said:
He already told you what he recommends, get 2.2. The other questions are answered in various threads throughout these forums.
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What he said^
And btw, it isn't an OTA update - it would be downloaded on your PC and installed via Kies. (not sure of the details, but this is what I've heard many times)
2.2 is already at the stores as of yesterday, our tech was given permission to upgrade the Mesmerizes in stock and employee phones, so if you were to buy a new one it'd be running froyo..
I personally got my own i500 upgraded yesterday morning and got to spend the last 24 hours reinstalling all my apps.. USCC should make an announcement on Facebook very soon.
I'm interested in removing some of this bloatware, what would be the best way to do that running the offical 2.2?
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2.2 is already at the stores as of yesterday, our tech was given permission to upgrade the Mesmerizes in stock and employee phones, so if you were to buy a new one it'd be running froyo..
I personally got my own i500 upgraded yesterday morning and got to spend the last 24 hours reinstalling all my apps.. USCC should make an announcement on Facebook very soon.
I'm interested in removing some of this bloatware, what would be the best way to do that running the offical 2.2?
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Install the PnP.
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just use the ec10 pnp. and go with the voodoo kernel. you can always flash back to stock with odin. then you get your warrentee back
With all these leaked releases looking pretty functional, we must be getting a GB update pretty soon right? Anyone heard any good rumors?
Yes, P3Droid pretty much confirmed it. We should be getting GB soon(hopefully), within the next month.
I asked p3droid about any incoming leaks for the Charge last week. He said to keep my pail handy, so I'm optimistic.
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I asked p3droid about any incoming leaks for the Charge last week. He said to keep my pail handy, so I'm optimistic.
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And you should be its not off as far as some seem to think. That said the current file he talks about runs FABULOUS. And no I don't have it but was able to get mine flashed and found out it is the most current he's seen as well.
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I asked p3droid about any incoming leaks for the Charge last week. He said to keep my pail handy, so I'm optimistic.
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If we do get an official gb and source code.. How much would that help with some aosp love?
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ace5198 said:
If we do get an official gb and source code.. How much would that help with some aosp love?
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That's what the developers need now. The source code is needed for ALL AOSP roms.
They don't release the source code for Android itself though (which is under an Apache license), just the GPL components.
EP1Q has been working decent for me but I did get the static on some phone calls today for the first time. I have not been using BT either though.
I'm running an early copy of Gingerbread. Will I need to go back to Froyo to get the official release of GB? I hate to have to freeze and delete the bloatware from Samsung and Verizon twice
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I'm running an early copy of Gingerbread. Will I need to go back to Froyo to get the official release of GB? I hate to have to freeze and delete the bloatware from Samsung and Verizon twice
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That will depend on if we get a leak of the build w/ radios. Everything but the modems can be flashed in CWM after the devs get a hold of it and add root.
If we don't get a odin of the modems, you will have to go back to stock EE4 to recieve the update, I believe. There is always the chance that you will be prompted to update even though you are on GB. You will need to be on RFS file system and have stock recovery to apply the update.
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I'm running an early copy of Gingerbread. Will I need to go back to Froyo to get the official release of GB? I hate to have to freeze and delete the bloatware from Samsung and Verizon twice
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If you want the OFFICIAL GB update, you'll have to be on OFFICIAL EE4 in order to be prompted of the official GB update.
OTA is coming by end of month according to tech support.
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mmm ep4d wonder what is changed in that hopefully the modem issues.
a leak would be great
It appears to be an older build than what we have. It's apparently based on 2.3.5. not sure if this is the OTA and is more stable, or if this is just something that Samsung released on their own.
this means cm7...right?DDDD
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It might help improve the kernel, but I doubt it will get them any closer to the RIL, which is the real holdup.
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this means cm7...right?DDDD
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NO it means nothing except a possible tool to improve the GB release........If you want CM7 then build it yourself
On the cm7 problem. Is the RIL problem that they can't get lte working? Could it be fixed for just 3g maybe? I remember When it came out for the evo. It didn't have 4g or HDMI for a long time.
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NO it means nothing except a possible tool to improve the GB release........If you want CM7 then build it yourself
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I don't see the need to say it like that...chill. I just wanted to know if this source code would help with cm7...
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I still think 2.3.6 was better
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NO it means nothing except a possible tool to improve the GB release........If you want CM7 then build it yourself
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Summers eve?
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I don't see the need to say it like that...chill. I just wanted to know if this source code would help with cm7...
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Pretty sure those types cannot control themselves.
P3droid is gonna leak this or no? Source is out so I hope so.
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Summers eve?
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Lolololol.tu'che
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P3droid is gonna leak this or no? Source is out so I hope so.
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Its not really a leak now that the source code has been released to the public. This is a very strange situation, though, that it appears to be an earlier build than what was leaked weeks ago.
p3 tweeted me that their leak is newer - also, it is the ver. being pushed OTA by VZW today (i created a thread)
ED4 must be the kernel, EP4 must be refined in some other fashion.
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Its not really a leak now that the source code has been released to the public. This is a very strange situation, though, that it appears to be an earlier build than what was leaked weeks ago.
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The latest ep4p leak is 2.3.6 and the OTA ep4d is 2.3.5. It's not really that strange at all considering they build iterative builds with constant changes, bug fixes, etc. And a later build can easily have changes that introduced a new bug from a previous build. With iterative agile development this is not strange at all, in fact I fully expect it, as well as fully expect there are even later builds than ep4p.
That makes no sense. The ROM and kernel versions usually match. This is leaving me scratching my head.
My brother's phone is still running an old version of EP1W and I have to wonder if it would be a good idea to upgrade to EP4P or wait. I'm not sure what to do.
To upgrade or not to upgrade, that is the question.
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The latest ep4p leak is 2.3.6 and the OTA ep4d is 2.3.5. It's not really that strange at all considering they build iterative builds with constant changes, bug fixes, etc. And a later build can easily have changes that introduced a new bug from a previous build. With iterative agile development this is not strange at all, in fact I fully expect it, as well as fully expect there are even later builds than ep4p.
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Thank you for the lesson on software development. Could you explain source control to me too?
Any devs that want it can download it from my post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360144
I have it as a whole download, just the kernel, or just the platform.
Hey can you help me I am a noob yesterday with some help I flashed clockwork mod then imoseyon 4.0.0 Today being still unhappy found and flashed eg2 Gingerbread stock debloated only to find out its outdated could you at least post the link to flash the latest ep4d?
Not sure if I am missing it, or what - But I am looking for a Gummy version (since I like the look and features they provide) of the most recent ROM update. Where/when can I find that?
I am using Gummy 1.9.something right now, IIRC.
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Not sure if I am missing it, or what - But I am looking for a Gummy version (since I like the look and features they provide) of the most recent ROM update. Where/when can I find that?
I am using Gummy 1.9.something right now, IIRC.
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You have to check rootzwiki. Not here
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You have to check rootzwiki. Not here
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...Which is found where?
I understand your trying to be helpful, but incomplete descriptions do not help - its more of a tease.
There is no GummyCharged ROM based on the newest ROM. The only GummyCharged ROM that is available is based upon a very, very, old release known as EP1W that has proven to be quite unstable according to the new EP4D ROM that was released recently.
Until the third-party ROM developers (this goes for both Infinity, Humble, and Liberty/GummyCharged) get their new ROMs out that are based upon EP4D, I'd stay away from them and load EP4D instead. EP4D is very stable and very fast.
Danalo1979 is close to getting a new EP4D-based ROM out right now and I figure that he'll have one available probably within the next two weeks. As for the other developers, it's hard to say when they will release.
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There is no GummyCharged ROM based on the newest ROM. The only GummyCharged ROM that is available is based upon a very, very, old release known as EP1W that has proven to be quite unstable according to the new EP4D ROM that was released recently.
Until the third-party ROM developers (this goes for both Infinity, Humble, and Liberty/GummyCharged) get their new ROMs out that are based upon EP4D, I'd stay away from them and load EP4D instead. EP4D is very stable and very fast.
Danalo1979 is close to getting a new EP4D-based ROM out right now and I figure that he'll have one available probably within the next two weeks. As for the other developers, it's hard to say when they will release.
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Thank you Sir!
chevybythesea said:
...Which is found where?
I understand your trying to be helpful, but incomplete descriptions do not help - its more of a tease.
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Google "rootzwiki"
n00b
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trparky said:
There is no GummyCharged ROM based on the newest ROM. The only GummyCharged ROM that is available is based upon a very, very, old release known as EP1W that has proven to be quite unstable according to the new EP4D ROM that was released recently.
Until the third-party ROM developers (this goes for both Infinity, Humble, and Liberty/GummyCharged) get their new ROMs out that are based upon EP4D, I'd stay away from them and load EP4D instead. EP4D is very stable and very fast.
Danalo1979 is close to getting a new EP4D-based ROM out right now and I figure that he'll have one available probably within the next two weeks. As for the other developers, it's hard to say when they will release.
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This is the move though. At this point, wait for devs to get at the new update
CONFIRMED!
The ZIP file that people have been getting from Verizon's OTA update matches that of which has been leaked. Thanks Bozz5384 over on AndroidForums.com, the MD5 signature you posted confirmed everything we needed to know.
What does this mean? Simple... those people who are unlucky enough to not get the OTA update (yet) can skip getting the OTA update and download the update.zip file that we have, put it on your SDCard, and manually start the update!
This is good news for all of us here!
You can download the update.zip file here (no annoying ads) or here.
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CONFIRMED!
The ZIP file that people have been getting from Verizon's OTA update matches that of which has been leaked. Thanks Bozz5384 over on AndroidForums.com, the MD5 signature you posted confirmed everything we needed to know.
What does this mean? Simple... those people who are unlucky enough to not get the OTA update (yet) can skip getting the OTA update and download the update.zip file that we have, put it on your SDCard, and manually start the update!
This is good news for all of us here!
You can download the update.zip file here (no annoying ads) or here.
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Yes! I was just trying to confirm that.
OMG I had to do this!
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=rootzwiki
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OMG I had to do this!
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=rootzwiki
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You so funny. hahahah. Yeah right!
I've been rooted for a long time using thunderstick full blown on 0.01.78.0906w_2 with imoseyon-6.1.0GBS+
Was just wondering when the most recent OTA occurred and how much better the performance might be over this rooted ROM. I'm getting a galaxy s iii in a few weeks but was just wondering what was going on with this phone, officially from HTC.
Thanks
d1ez3 said:
I've been rooted for a long time using thunderstick full blown on 0.01.78.0906w_2 with imoseyon-6.1.0GBS+
Was just wondering when the most recent OTA occurred and how much better the performance might be over this rooted ROM. I'm getting a galaxy s iii in a few weeks but was just wondering what was going on with this phone, officially from HTC.
Thanks
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In my opinion you're on the most stable radios, some of the mr4 radios do pretty good if you want I'll post a link for both as they are not a package. As i am going to the big boy S3 i wouldn't worry about it too much, bout one more week
M.yA.nD.roid
I've not paid attention to OTA since rooting mine a long time ago as well, and am also wondering what the latest OTA is? (GB, ICS? Version? etc.)
The most recent stock OTA is Gingerbread version 2.11.605.19 710RD. More information on specific changes are at link below:
http://m.androidcentral.com/htc-thunderbolt-software-update-v21160519-710rd-now-available-ota
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quickdraw86 said:
The most recent stock OTA is Gingerbread version 2.11.605.19 710RD.
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Much appreciated. :victory: I skimmed through a few pages but didn't see it stand out, do you also know offhand which Android version? (i.e. 2.3.7?)
Thanks
GeekDrop said:
Much appreciated. :victory: I skimmed through a few pages but didn't see it stand out, do you also know offhand which Android version? (i.e. 2.3.7?)
Thanks
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Android 2.3.4
* Thunderbolt 4G *