Had the chance to mess around a little bit with several phones: HTC Sensation, Samsung Infuse and Sony Xperia Play. The best of them, in my opinion, is the Sensation, but the Xperia was a very nice phone. It felt well-crafted, solid and sleek. Elegant also. I couldn't play very much with it, but I did try to play a game. The first game I saw was Asphalt 6 and I found that apparently only Sony Playstation specific games will use the slide-out controls. I saw Crash Bandicoot but didn't have enough time to load it and play. But just from what I did wit it, I would love to own an Xperia.
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I wanted to compare, on a stock, untouched ROM, the performance of FPSE and Sony's official emulator rendering the same game. I chose Everybody's Golf 2 (Hot Shots Golf 2), paid for it on the Market and downloaded a backup to use with FPSE. One could imagine that, since the game, the emulated console and the official emulator are made by the same company, the official emulator would win hands down.
One would be wrong.
The paid-for game stutters sometimes while executing a stroke, and the input lag was noticeable. Moreover, the game slowed to a crawl in the animations after finishing a hole, and when several keys were pressed in a short time. The game was of course playable, but it wasn't 100% fluid, which is an unacceptable outcome given the price of the game.
On the other hand, FPSE's rendition was flawless. No stutters, no input lag, no post-hole slowness, and I could smash the buttons as much as I wanted without any slowness.
I am appalled by this outcome. Certainly I like good golf games, like HSG2, which is vastly superior to GameLift's Let's Golf 2 e.g. However, I want a proper user experience, which a lagging game doesn't deliver. I'm not going to buy any nore PSX titles.
Sony official emulator? where do i get this?!
killa92 said:
Sony official emulator? where do i get this?!
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It's built into the Xperia Play.
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Thanks for the observations Logseman.
I'm sure this won't be the case with every game, but nevertheless, it is troubling.
I think it points to the limitations of the Play's hardware, the officiall Sony Emu on PSP is flawless for everything I have tried. Can't help but feel they should have made the Play just a 'little' bit more powerful.
Hardware-wise, the Xperia Play has technology at least 5 years younger than the PSP one, not to mention the boost in processing speed and RAM memory. Plus, FPSE runs in the same hardware flawlessly. I would say it's a matter of implementation.
Very interesting, I'll try this with destruction derby tonight, I just assumed it was a mixture of things running in the background that was making it juddery!
Destruction Derby runs really, really fast for me in FPSE.
If you put smoothing on it works perfect and looks amazing.
It's the only game I've really been able to play with smoothing on though, which is a shame because it really cleans up the jaggies.
Where is smoothing?
I think he means screen filtering
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sony.playstation.NCEA02146_0
Logseman i dont really have any of the issue that you have brought up, if i get a txt while im playing the game, i get 10-15 seconds of slowdown after, but it seems to sort itself out
After beating Samurai II in the hardest level like a breeze, and after a similarly boringly easy experience with Asphalt 6, I would like to ask you people if you share that feeling, that the Play controls make the optimised games too easy to beat, since they allow much more precision than a touch screen, and those games were designed with touch screens in mind.
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After beating Samurai II in the hardest level like a breeze, and after a similarly boringly easy experience with Asphalt 6, I would like to ask you people if you share that feeling, that the Play controls make the optimised games too easy to beat, since they allow much more precision than a touch screen, and those games were designed with touch screens in mind.
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I think its the other way, that touchscreen games are too hard. The controls are just not intuitive, and in some cases downright maddening.
I agree. I have clocked Samurai II in its hardest setting in a about a week playing an hour to two each day. But my friend who has Samurai II on his LG Optimus 2x has been playing it for well over a month and he still cannot beat the final boss lol, even on the easiest setting (maybe he just sucks).
I also prefer using the gyroscope or w/e it uses to control the car on Ashphalt 6. Its way to easy to drive with the controls. Its alot more challenging without. I guess we are gonna be stuck with touch screen games being optimised for use with the controls.
I like the way how the pad allows me to win every game of rainbow six online.
Hell, wasn't the gamepad making things easier for you to win against others online even part of SE's marketing for the Play?
I'm still not used to the pads but I do love the buttons.
The controls far improve any game that I have also played on the touch screen. Controlling the game shouldn't be part of the challenge.
aros2k said:
The controls far improve any game that I have also played on the touch screen. Controlling the game shouldn't be part of the challenge.
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Exactly my feeling, and why I wasn't much of a phone gamer until this came out.
Logseman said:
After beating Samurai II in the hardest level like a breeze, and after a similarly boringly easy experience with Asphalt 6, I would like to ask you people if you share that feeling, that the Play controls make the optimised games too easy to beat, since they allow much more precision than a touch screen, and those games were designed with touch screens in mind.
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I found Asphault 6 impossible to complete and unlock all the cars because of the bullcrap requirements. Getting some of the required stars was damn near impossible, after a while i just gave up and Uninstalled the game out of sheer frustration.
Please tell me your joking? your complaining because we have a PROPER gamepad to play GAMES?! There was me thinking gamepads were how games were meant to be played, wow......
Also, Asphalt 6 is honestly the only racing game I play on the Play, I've tried many others but none of them make me want to go back and play again and again like Asphalt 6 does, it is also certainly a very good looking game!
Where have I complained, pray tell?
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I found Asphault 6 impossible to complete and unlock all the cars because of the bullcrap requirements. Getting some of the required stars was damn near impossible, after a while i just gave up and Uninstalled the game out of sheer frustration.
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It was tough but definitely nowhere near impossible. I have all stars on most of the game, just took a conscious effort to do them. Usually its just making sure you give every turn a good drift and smash as many opponents as possible.
Well, I just can't get used to touchpads. I've NEVER played touchscreen games a lot (only one was Angry Birds on my old X8) and I find it much easier to play BC2 on screen than on touchpads. Movements are too fast, because the small touchpad is allocated to the whole screen.
I dont like the touchpad either, but I think the problem is the way they are programed to work. They do not really work like a joystick. Im used to playing shooters on my Xbox360
Most games I have played on the pad you have to move your finger back to the middle and slide to the edge of the joystick to move the camera that direction, rather than just pressing the edge of the pad like on the left pad when moving your character position.
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Hell, wasn't the gamepad making things easier for you to win against others online even part of SE's marketing for the Play?
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Ah... that takes me back to the first time I tried to play an FPS on a touch-screen phone. It felt like using a PS2 controller made out of jell-o while submerged in molasses. The touch-pads are a godsend... when they are used right.
Every developer making a shooting game that requires any level of precision shouldn't be allowed to call their game "Xperia PLAY Optimized" until they've played Dead Space or the latest version of Brothers in Arms 2... and made the aiming work on that level.
So if you don't know already, KEMCO has been non-stop dropping awesome RPGs on Android. If I recall correctly, these are the same people behind a lot of awesome classics like Shadowgate, Deja Vu, the Sword of Hope series and Dragon View.
Their first Android hit, however, was Symphony of the Eternity, which is currently at a near-perfect rating of 9/10.
Just by having some general keyboard compatibility, you could already control movement and NPC interaction with the Xperia gamepad, but it was imperfect because you'd still have to use the touch screen for almost everything menu related... but as of this latest release (1.0.8) it's completely Xperia PLAY Optmized! Menu control, quick map, and even the game launcher... everything works with the Xperia PLAY controls now!
It's a fantastic throwback - but has a deep enough class/technique system so that it doesn't feel outdated or RPG-Maker-ish. I beat it already, but I think this just made me happy enough to beat it one more time and master all skills with all characters!
Only $2.99, CHECK IT OUT!
I'm hoping Alphadia's up next. Put some Xperia PLAY controls on that and I'll keep the tradition going of me buying every KEMCO RPG.
Certainly now I will try it again. I bought it for the SGS, didn't beat it because it was too hard to use the touch controls, and I've been hoping to use the Play's ones. The ridiculous dialogs will not disappear though...
Seems like a pretty solid RPG in good old retro style. How I loved Shadowgate when I was little! In fact I played through it again just a month ago.
This one reminds me a fair lot of Lufia 2 for the SNES. The battle system that is. They must have taken inspiration from it. Thanks for your youtube vids! How long did it take for you to finish this game? I'm on my second Chrono Trigger playthrough at the moment and don't want to start another time consuming game before I finish it. Now I'm off to bring Crono back on Death Peak!
Looks like a game made with an old version of RPG Maker... :/
Zenonia 1, 2 and 3 are much better.
This one is a JRPG Old School game and it is fantastic in its plot and gameplay!
I love Zenonia Series, but these two are completely different in genre so you just can't compare them together.
I managed to beat it since the very first xperia play optimize released, at the time when you have to use both touch screen and d-pad on xperia game pad. The control was kinda annoyed but its story and gameplay drove me to the end of the game.
Recommended for any JRPG lovers. This one is full of twists!
Wow, the new update adds voices and makes special attacks more dramatic.
Sounds like a small thing, but the game feels a lot more "defined" now. It actually feels like it's own thing instead of just a FF clone.
Dont know if this is new or old, came across this just moments ago.
http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/Xperia+Play/Super+Monkey+Ball+2+(iPhone)/news.asp?c=37964
I love first person/third person shooters and play a bunch on my pc. From TF2 to Mount and Musket I love these types of games.
I bought max payne mobile,Doom GLES, and Shadow Gun. After playing them all for about 3 hours I was really frustrated. The way the default controls of one finger on the left moves, and one on the right looks seemed really bad for shooters. I mean i have to stop moving or looking in order to shoot. It felt clumsy and my thumb sometimes slipped and didnt hit the "Shoot" button perfectly. Max Payne has a nice auto aim feature where the game does most of the precise aiming for you but still i was a bit frustrated. It seems the 3 games I used all had the same control system.
Do you like first person action based games on your phone and/or tablet? If so does the tablets bigger screen help? Do you change the way the controls work to better suit your needs? Do you play different games that control differently?
I want to like mobile games, but so far I am a bit unsure of the ones people play or that have good controls. Or maybe this genre isnt for the phone.
I am currently using a Motorola Droid Razr with 4.0.4
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same problem with me dude....
if u had money just buy PS3 controller or Wiimote and u can used it
Play modern combat 3
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