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So I got my infuse yesterday and I love it. I have a unlimited data plan from my iPhone. I haven't actually had an iPhone since the 4 came out last summer. I had a desire z and then a desire HD. I had no issues with them and my data plan once the apn had been set.
Since those phones are not '4g' I wasn't bothered by att. Now that I'm on the infuse and it uses 4g, I got a text a few hours after using it saying I need a 4g plan. I'm not willing to give up my unlimited data for a restricted 4g plan. Even if I don't need that much data. So do I have any alternatives?
Thanks in advance

I didn't want to make a new thread, but after using my infuse for an hour non stop with wifi on and browsing the web, my battery temp is 41c. And the battery drained from 100 to 65. That seems extremely hot to me...

@eatjello
Same exact thing I'm having, so hot, and charging is so slow I'm hating this phone a little, and continuous use last me just 4hrs wifi turned off and gps off. Charging takes 4 hrs +
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eatjello said:
I didn't want to make a new thread, but after using my infuse for an hour non stop with wifi on and browsing the web, my battery temp is 41c. And the battery drained from 100 to 65. That seems extremely hot to me...
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I had the same issue, go and trade the phone. Either the battery of the phone is bad.
Someone suggested to turn airplane mode on and back off and it might fix it (dont know how).
Also you do not need to loose your unlimited. There's no 4G plan, best buy did the calling but there's a unlimited plan for the infuse, it's called SmartPhone Personal.
Here's a text from ATT on how to get it.
Data Plan for SmartPhones. Unlimited domestic data usage. Only available for upgrades. Requires customers to be on a "Gold List" SmartPhone Plan prior to upgrade to 4G device.

I get the same messages in my email & text from AT&T. I also have the iPhone unlimited data plan. I wonder if not having the right plan doesn't allow me to utilize the full speed of hspa+. I get like 3mbps down & 1.26mbps up. I'm also using my iPhone 4 microsim in my Infuse.

Papi4baby said:
I had the same issue, go and trade the phone. Either the battery of the phone is bad.
Someone suggested to turn airplane mode on and back off and it might fix it (dont know how).
Also you do not need to loose your unlimited. There's no 4G plan, best buy did the calling but there's a unlimited plan for the infuse, it's called SmartPhone Personal.
Here's a text from ATT on how to get it.
Data Plan for SmartPhones. Unlimited domestic data usage. Only available for upgrades. Requires customers to be on a "Gold List" SmartPhone Plan prior to upgrade to 4G device.
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If i bought this phone off of someone else who bought it from ATT, can i still trade it in for a new one?

I'm a Rep with at&t and you don't have to give up that unlimited plan. We still have the ability to grandfather even the 4G plan. Trust me...I deal with poor customers all day who receive invalid info from dumbass reps who can't read outside our training manuals. Call our CARE and tell them you need to switch your data plan to HSPA+ unlimited. Even if it means calling back ten times, don't stop until you get it!
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bullet358 said:
I'm a Rep with at&t and you don't have to give up that unlimited plan. We still have the ability to grandfather even the 4G plan. Trust me...I deal with poor customers all day who receive invalid info from dumbass reps who can't read outside our training manuals. Call our CARE and tell them you need to switch your data plan to HSPA+ unlimited. Even if it means calling back ten times, don't stop until you get it!
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i can confirm this is true. i just did what bullet told me to, i'm now on the 4G plan with unlimited data still. It's still annoying having a micro sim. but i guess it means i can go to the new iphone if i decide to
now to address the heat issue...

bullet358 said:
I'm a Rep with at&t and you don't have to give up that unlimited plan. We still have the ability to grandfather even the 4G plan. Trust me...I deal with poor customers all day who receive invalid info from dumbass reps who can't read outside our training manuals. Call our CARE and tell them you need to switch your data plan to HSPA+ unlimited. Even if it means calling back ten times, don't stop until you get it!
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Do you have to sign a new contract to change your data plan like that?

sidepocket said:
Do you have to sign a new contract to change your data plan like that?
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no you do not

just call in and tell them you have a new phoen and that you need to get switched over to your new data plan Smartphone personal 4G.
idk if there is a difference but the lady who did my change told me that since it was a 4G phone they give us a plan that has the advantage to access 4G when available idk if thats true but thats what i was told

eatjello said:
So I got my infuse yesterday and I love it. I have a unlimited data plan from my iPhone. I haven't actually had an iPhone since the 4 came out last summer. I had a desire z and then a desire HD. I had no issues with them and my data plan once the apn had been set.
Since those phones are not '4g' I wasn't bothered by att. Now that I'm on the infuse and it uses 4g, I got a text a few hours after using it saying I need a 4g plan. I'm not willing to give up my unlimited data for a restricted 4g plan. Even if I don't need that much data. So do I have any alternatives?
Thanks in advance
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You just have to call cs, it is free unlimited data plan for 4g phones, i was offered the same with my inspire and i am presently on it.
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Free unlimited data? Not sure what you mean by that. If you already had a data plan, it was free to switch it over to the unlimited 4G. but you can't get the data free.
I had my unlimited iphone grandfathered over to the 4G unlimited data. but my "4G" speeds suck. they barely hit 2mps. no faster than my 3G plan was.

At&t 4g vs. 3g and grandfathering in

I upgraded to an Inspire. I had 3g on my account, so I called ATT to get it changed to 4g. The associate I spoke to said he couldn't give me unlimited 4g, even though I was grandfathered in with 3g unlimited by the resolutions department. Is there any real reason to switch to 4g, if it comes at the cost of having a 2gb usage cap?

Guess it all depends on the rep you get, but I can assure you that its still active. Just did it a couple weeks ago. I would recommend going to an att corporate store, not a vendor. Whatever you do, dont ditch the unlimited. Good luck

volumnus said:
I upgraded to an Inspire. I had 3g on my account, so I called ATT to get it changed to 4g. The associate I spoke to said he couldn't give me unlimited 4g, even though I was grandfathered in with 3g unlimited by the resolutions department. Is there any real reason to switch to 4g, if it comes at the cost of having a 2gb usage cap?
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1. Stick to unlimited 3G
2. Root ur phone and turn ENG S-OFF
3. Install custom ROM and get "H" (AT&T's equivalent of 4G) speeds

I have rooted it.
diablo009 said:
1. Stick to unlimited 3G
2. Root ur phone and turn ENG S-OFF
3. Install custom ROM and get "H" (AT&T's equivalent of 4G) speeds
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I do have an H+ icon in the top right corner of the phone's screen. Someone I know used to do the old imei switcharoo to nonsmartphone data plan, but that doesn't work on Android phones like it did on the tilt2 (according to a good friend of mine.) Does Eng Off have anything to do with that? He said it worked fine on the nonsmartphone plan for a couple of days, and then when he downloaded his first app from the market. *****smacked. Got an mms saying he'd been switched to a suitable smartphone data plan. Misses the tilt2 to the tune of about 30 bucks a month.

volumnus said:
I upgraded to an Inspire. I had 3g on my account, so I called ATT to get it changed to 4g. The associate I spoke to said he couldn't give me unlimited 4g, even though I was grandfathered in with 3g unlimited by the resolutions department. Is there any real reason to switch to 4g, if it comes at the cost of having a 2gb usage cap?
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You might as well get this issue resolved now, because in the future when all the true 4g LTE phones come out, your 3g plan might not get you LTE speeds. Currently a 3g plan is enough to get you "4g" speeds, because AT&T is calling HSPA+ "4g" (my old iPhone 4 is a "3g" phone but I get "4g" HSPA speeds on it). There is no way of knowing if a 3g plan will get you true LTE speeds in the future, and you'll wish you had grandfathered yourself into the unlimited 4G plan now. I would take stickbo's suggestion and go in person to an AT&T store and make them grandfather you into the unlimited 4g plan.

you can keep it if you are grandfathered and have 4g unlimited. i got the text when i got my inspire. called and verified it would remain grandfathered, and it does show unlimited online. i have a premier account, but i doubt it makes a difference

HSPA+ =\= HSPA. Get your account provisioned right, even if you have to call another agent or go to the store to get it done. Remember, carriers can limit which tech you are able to connect to. If you are limited to HSPA only you may never get the max out of this phone, let alone future ones.
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Sorry for my ignorance but AFAIK there is no 4G card and/or plan or special provisioning at ATT at current time.
You (we?) should be good with a "3G" SIM to fetch 4G speeds where they are available (roll-out from ATT is rather slow). 4G LTE IS indeed another story.
Regarding grandfathering in, ATT tried the same thing with me and others to "downgrade" the plan (PDA personal 30 bucks a month unlimited data) to 2GB/month. A single call to ATT solved this problem because they have to grandfather you in if you are willing to pay 30 bucks for unlimited instead of 25 for 2 GB capped. With new plans it's a different story, they will be capped to 2 GB unless you do the iPhone 2G trick (search the forum).
Just my $ 0.02

I am on a medianet plan and my phone says I have hspa+. How can I confirm this? Medianet apns have been working fine but when I called about having unsigned apps activated ota they said my 4G might not work so great. Seems ok although hspa+ not 4g or anywhere near it.

I got unlimited 4g when I got my Inspire 1 month ago. I just called ATT support and they verified that you can get unlimited with 4g anywhere in the US. Talk to another agent. Most of them are stupid. When I got my inspire I was told that I couldnt even get 4g without a new simcard lol.

volumnus said:
I upgraded to an Inspire. I had 3g on my account, so I called ATT to get it changed to 4g. The associate I spoke to said he couldn't give me unlimited 4g, even though I was grandfathered in with 3g unlimited by the resolutions department. Is there any real reason to switch to 4g, if it comes at the cost of having a 2gb usage cap?
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Call them up. Threaten to leave because they wont grandfather you in. I assure you they will. I just switched from a grandfathered unlimited iphone plan that I got grandfathered from a medianet unlimited plan(They grandfathered me from medianet unlimited because i told them the tos doesn't say you have to have unlimited smartphone data to get grandfathered it just says unlimited data. They ended up putting in the unlimited iphone data plan for users that dont have required data plan). I had no issues what so ever if the rep refuses ask to speak with a manager. They can change it.

[email protected] said:
I got unlimited 4g when I got my Inspire 1 month ago. I just called ATT support and they verified that you can get unlimited with 4g anywhere in the US. Talk to another agent. Most of them are stupid. When I got my inspire I was told that I couldnt even get 4g without a new simcard lol.
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There is no unlimited 4G as well as there is no true indication of 4G. There is limited or unlimited DATA, period.
Thought this would be clear. The little + doesn't tell you anything beside that you have "at least" a 3G connection and that you're not running on edge!
You either need a good GSM test tool - even this may tell you only UMTS or WCDMA or simply speed test. 3G should be capped at about 3.5 mbps down, 4G/HSPA+ will run between 4 and 8 mbps down, the latter in good areas.
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tyguy said:
There is no unlimited 4G as well as there is no true indication of 4G. There is limited or unlimited DATA, period.
Thought this would be clear. The little + doesn't tell you anything beside that you have "at least" a 3G connection and that you're not running on edge!
You either need a good GSM test tool - even this may tell you only UMTS or WCDMA or simply speed test. 3G should be capped at about 3.5 mbps down, 4G/HSPA+ will run between 4 and 8 mbps down, the latter in good areas.
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Your only technically right. Try running your service without the "4g" data plan (your data speeds wont change i know i ran the 3g data plan then switched to the "4g" data plan). Att will constantly txt and email about needing the correct data plan and then change it themselves like they do for the iphone. And you may not get grandfathered over. The op is only asking a question about what he is being told by att and also looking for some advice to keep his unlimited data.

Carlrobling said:
Call them up. Threaten to leave because they wont grandfather you in. I assure you they will. I just switched from a grandfathered unlimited iphone plan that I got grandfathered from a medianet unlimited plan.
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That's similar to how my upgrade worked too. Originally an unlimited MediaNet plan (with an Ericsson clamshell), upgraded into an unlimited 3G plan (AT&T Tilt 1), upgraded again into their unlimited "4G*" plan with the Inspire.

thesuffering said:
you can keep it if you are grandfathered and have 4g unlimited. i got the text when i got my inspire. called and verified it would remain grandfathered, and it does show unlimited online. i have a premier account, but i doubt it makes a difference
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Premier account DOES make a difference. I can get any smartphone (exception of iphone) without the otherwise mandatory data plan. And sometimes when I choose early upgrades I get the price between the regular upgrade and regular early upgrade (e.g., instead of paying 399 for Atrix under early upgrade, I got it for 275).

Carlrobling said:
Your only technically right. Try running your service without the "4g" data plan (your data speeds wont change i know i ran the 3g data plan then switched to the "4g" data plan). Att will constantly txt and email about needing the correct data plan and then change it themselves like they do for the iphone. And you may not get grandfathered over. The op is only asking a question about what he is being told by att and also looking for some advice to keep his unlimited data.
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I changed phones (Fuze to Inspire and had PDA unlimited since my Tilt/Kaiser), they tried to pull the 2 gig cap stunt on me - complaint - got unlimited. Never got any emails or other notifications that I require a 4G plan (which IMO doesn't exist anyway) and can get up to 8.5 mbps download in good areas - so I must have INDEED 4G 'cuz 3G wont support these speeds.

it's 3.5 g
tyguy said:
I changed phones (Fuze to Inspire and had PDA unlimited since my Tilt/Kaiser), they tried to pull the 2 gig cap stunt on me - complaint - got unlimited. Never got any emails or other notifications that I require a 4G plan (which IMO doesn't exist anyway) and can get up to 8.5 mbps download in good areas - so I must have INDEED 4G 'cuz 3G wont support these speeds.
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Look at my sig photo

I didn't think that the inspire had an lte radio, did I miss something?
As I remember I thought it only had an hspda+ capable of 14. 4 Mb/sec. Am I completely off? Not making a statement truly asking.
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The Inspire "4G" does not have an LTE chipset
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I didn't think that the inspire had an lte radio, did I miss something?
As I remember I thought it only had an hspda+ capable of 14. 4 Mb/sec. Am I completely off? Not making a statement truly asking.
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AT&T speak, if you read carefully, says they are working on providing "4G speed", with essentially some network tricks with 3G technology. That said...I'm happy when I get off my 12 hour shift at 5AM and hit 7.6 down :-=p. Hee hee finally Star Trek (TOS) shyte I grew up watching is possible on my effin phone!

tyguy said:
I changed phones (Fuze to Inspire and had PDA unlimited since my Tilt/Kaiser), they tried to pull the 2 gig cap stunt on me - complaint - got unlimited. Never got any emails or other notifications that I require a 4G plan (which IMO doesn't exist anyway) and can get up to 8.5 mbps download in good areas - so I must have INDEED 4G 'cuz 3G wont support these speeds.
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You keep saying the 4g plan doesn't exist, but it does. It doesn't make a difference in speeds, and it might just be a technicality, but there are separate plans. This is how they are worded in my family account under "manage features" (I've got 1 Inspire and 3 iPhones in my family account):
-SmartPhone Personal (Unlimited) <<this is the grandfathered 4g unlimited plan
-DataPro 2GB for 4G Smartphones
-DataPlus 200MB for 4G Smartphones
iPhone plans have a different name:
Data Plan for iPhone (Unlimited)
DataPro 2 GB for iPhone
DataPlus 200 MB for iPhone
There may come a day when having a 4g plan DOES make a difference in your speeds. That is why I was telling the OP to try to grandfather into the unlimited 4g plan NOW, because these unlimited plans are going the way of the dinosaur. Once you lose that grandfathered connection, it is gone forever.

Did anyone try the new 200MB unlimited data for $9.99? for US t-mobile

is anyone using it??? for APN internet2 bypass throttle data speed.
does this method work?

It used to. Tmo fixed it. There is no workaround for the throttle.
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"200mb Unlimited".....
Hahahahaha..... Oh cell corporations.....you make me laugh.
And cry.....

lol sorry, i wouldn't waste $10 on 200mb. even if this phone was rooted, there is no way around the throttle, they blocked it. it worked on my mt4g and g2x and then it stopped.

Oxymoron much? xD
EmceeGeek said:
lol sorry, i wouldn't waste $10 on 200mb. even if this phone was rooted, there is no way around the throttle, they blocked it. it worked on my mt4g and g2x and then it stopped.
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Prob for people only websurf and youtube?

how about internationa version?? not the T-mobile version?

I have the $10 plan (2 actually.. family plan) and think its great. We are light data users and love not being forced in to more expensive data plans (vs. any other carrier) and the fact that we still get data even after the 200MB.. it just might be slower. Perfect for us. Its *THE* reason we are TMo customers. At $30 dataplans, my corporate discount would be much better on Verizon.

I'm using the 200mb plan - honestly I'm on WiFi all day at work and home. Last month I used 5 mg...I feel like I need to set aside time to actually use it.

200mb wouldn't last me 2 days... perhaps not even 1 lol!
anyway, you guys do know about the prefered android unlimited plan right?
5gb cap, $20 a month.

so does international version of Sensation can do that bypass?

I use 200MB in 1 day. pff

That is the plan I am on now. I'm trying to bust pass the limit to see just how slow the restriction is. Right now I am using 2g and I find that fine, so I am going to wait and see.
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I have the grandfathered android data plan. Got a text that I was being throttled. I was still hitting 4g speeds and managed to get up to 7gb by the end of the month
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I'm really interested in seeing how slow the throttled speeds are. Like, are they slower than EDGE? I think I can deal with it. I got the 200mb data.

When I bought my phone there was a frequent questions pamplet on the reps counter that mentioned reduced speed was 2g or edge (or 2g edge I can't remember exactly). At the time I just thought it was nice for them to specify. Sorry I can't remember exactly, my memory kinda sucks
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2gb for $20
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Flippy125 said:
I have the grandfathered android data plan. Got a text that I was being throttled. I was still hitting 4g speeds and managed to get up to 7gb by the end of the month
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I also have the old "unlimited data" plan. When I upgraded phones. They tried to switch me. For years I've been able to keep my data plan. When I got the sensation. I had the rep repeat to me what plans I had. It was over the phone and conversation was recorded. I had him repeat to me my plans and he said "looks like you have unlimited data" and i told him "I have what?" and he said "Unlimited data" I said Thank you and to please note it on the account.
I got a text for throttled down connection. Called back in. Spoke with rep, tech, than supervisor. Had him repeat my plan. "Unlimited data"
I ended the conversation saying no where does "Unlimited data" says you can limit my speed or anything for that fact. Supervisor agreed and took off throttle. everything is back to normal and have no noticed any data issues or speed issues.

mykoe817 said:
I also have the old "unlimited data" plan. When I upgraded phones. They tried to switch me. For years I've been able to keep my data plan. When I got the sensation. I had the rep repeat to me what plans I had. It was over the phone and conversation was recorded. I had him repeat to me my plans and he said "looks like you have unlimited data" and i told him "I have what?" and he said "Unlimited data" I said Thank you and to please note it on the account.
I got a text for throttled down connection. Called back in. Spoke with rep, tech, than supervisor. Had him repeat my plan. "Unlimited data"
I ended the conversation saying no where does "Unlimited data" says you can limit my speed or anything for that fact. Supervisor agreed and took off throttle. everything is back to normal and have no noticed any data issues or speed issues.
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No offense, but I have to call BS... I have heard hundreds of reports from reps and end-users alike that there is no switch to turn off throttling. Moreover, it's clear as day in the terms of service that they will throttle as soon as you hit your data limit. Additionally, you have truly unlimited data, the first 200mb, 2gb, 5gb, or 10gb at full speed, and then the remainder of the month at dial-up speeds. All plans are unlimited, you are just paying for how much full speed service you want before you get throttled.
If you were right, we could just pay $10 for 200mb and then complain about the throttle when it kicks in and have full 4g speed all month for $10. Would be nice, but you're dreaming.
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Nope. no BS. when you get a "200mb plan" that's your plan. 200mb. Unlimited is just that. Unlimited. They've changed data plans around and have put in many tiers. None of which are "Unlimited"
Just glad I get to keep my old plan. this was from like sidekick 2 or whatever it was. I know I can't tether however. That is an add on apparently. some how they know...

Mainspring said:
200mb wouldn't last me 2 days... perhaps not even 1 lol!
anyway, you guys do know about the prefered android unlimited plan right?
5gb cap, $20 a month.
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I love that plan! I have it for me and the Mrs. It's what keeps us with TMobile.

Stop data throttling

Does anyone know a way to stop the data throttling that actually works?
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One can only wish.

Method that works...
The only method that I know that works is not to exceed your data allocation. Certainly would be nice if we could get around that. But I'll bet any exploit someone could come up with would quickly be foiled by TMO.

RiverCity.45 said:
The only method that I know that works is not to exceed your data allocation. Certainly would be nice if we could get around that. But I'll bet any exploit someone could come up with would quickly be foiled by TMO.
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That is not really a way around throttling. It just suggests you deal with the data limitations of tmo, Verizon and att. Well...I disagree!
Now, the answer to your original question is, in fact, that you cannot stop tmo's throttling. However, a possible solution to this problem (at least here in the states) is to exercise some of your consumer power and leave these companies. The only major US provider not capping data is SPRINT! Or, you can deal with it by augmenting some of your data usage by using wifi more often. In reality though this is only a problem for the extreme power user. I've never had the issue myself and I use data heavy apps and tasks but I also use wifi a lot (on 5GB cap).

Well I am not willing to go to sprint because all they do is rip people off so I guess I just have to deal with the 5 gig limit.
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chadrick.7 said:
Well I am not willing to go to sprint because all they do is rip people off so I guess I just have to deal with the 5 gig limit.
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5 gig
Man, you are a heavy user...!!
The throttling is done by the hardware at each provider - so you would need to hack their systems... Nothing you can do on your phone - really, nothing!!
- mwie -

I called tmo and talked very polite to the retention lady and she put me on the prefered android unlimited data for $20 a month which has no cap I use around 6-7 gb (mostly work) and have never been throttled back
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after review... I need to call retention.. lol

From what I read over in the other thread, calling retention would help you get the $20 android preferred plan. Only problem is they still cap it after 5GB. No big deal for me since I was paying $20 for 2GB.

I already have the android preferred plan it is still throttled at 5 gigs.
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5 Gb ??
I am managing just fine with 500 Mb (Orange UK). At home and at work I am on wireless.
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chadrick.7 said:
I already have the android preferred plan it is still throttled at 5 gigs.
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I called and spoke to a rep and got a full-on description of this whole deal.
First, they're not going to acknowledge the plan exists most often then not because it technically "doesn't exist". I have seen screen shots that say otherwise but it is something they can put on but it still contains a 5gb cap.
IN FACT, and he offered to send me documentation to suffice, the old plans that claimed to be 100% unlimited were also capped... the thing is, no one hardly went over 5gb. I also do not know the parameters on what or how they catch the overage, but he said they were once more liberal with the soft cap then they use to be because they indeed advertised as "unlimited".
Recently they changed their language and they changed how their plans appeared to be more transparent on what their plans actually offered... most data plans were filtered into the 2gb cap territory and some ole faithfuls got "transferred" to a 5gb soft cap "unlimited" plan...
Again, the 5gb cap has always existed...
He did however tell me we could do some changes on my plan, reconfigure it and I could get a 10gb cap for the same price I'm paying now... however, it's on my lunch... and I didn't feel like dealing with it at the moment.
However, I think I'm still verizon bound in November... I'll only have to pay one ETF. To think that my loyalty all this time was based on "wording" of "unlimited everything" was complete popycock.

I've been throttled 2 out of the past 3 months. It's never happened before and I haven't changed my usage habits. It seems unlikely that I would hit 5GB without tethering or using the phone as a hotspot. I call shenanigans!

Wow, I thought we had it bad here....
I am on voda TR, I pay 5 usd a month for unlimited data.... (well technically it is unlimited). First 100mb on hspa+ (thats your 4g in the us) then it is down to 90kbs well the system usually lets 120-130 through.

Been a tmobile customer for 5 years.....would be nice if there retention team was more consistent. Seems some customers get great hookups and some dont. Guess it depends on who you are speaking with and the mood there in

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16118758
Try this....
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I already have this plan it is still trottled at 5 gigs.
Enzopreme said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16118758
Try this....
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mr2324jgf said:
I called and spoke to a rep and got a full-on description of this whole deal.
First, they're not going to acknowledge the plan exists most often then not because it technically "doesn't exist". I have seen screen shots that say otherwise but it is something they can put on but it still contains a 5gb cap.
IN FACT, and he offered to send me documentation to suffice, the old plans that claimed to be 100% unlimited were also capped... the thing is, no one hardly went over 5gb. I also do not know the parameters on what or how they catch the overage, but he said they were once more liberal with the soft cap then they use to be because they indeed advertised as "unlimited".
Recently they changed their language and they changed how their plans appeared to be more transparent on what their plans actually offered... most data plans were filtered into the 2gb cap territory and some ole faithfuls got "transferred" to a 5gb soft cap "unlimited" plan...
Again, the 5gb cap has always existed...
He did however tell me we could do some changes on my plan, reconfigure it and I could get a 10gb cap for the same price I'm paying now... however, it's on my lunch... and I didn't feel like dealing with it at the moment.
However, I think I'm still verizon bound in November... I'll only have to pay one ETF. To think that my loyalty all this time was based on "wording" of "unlimited everything" was complete popycock.
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i happen to work for tmobile and there is a plan that have a cap on it at one point we never had a capped i currently as a rep have a cap myself and as quoted earlier its all in who you talk too and when lately some loyalty reps are willing too help you and some aren't but no data plan absolutely does exist

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i happen to work for tmobile and there is a plan that have a cap on it at one point we never had a capped i currently as a rep have a cap myself and as quoted earlier its all in who you talk too and when lately some loyalty reps are willing too help you and some aren't but no data plan absolutely does exist
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We have a Tmobile call center here in wichita... meaning lots of employees... I decided to break a rule of mine and quiz some of my tmo/friends including 2 leads, a retention rep and a supervisor, and all data plans on Tmobile have been capped to some degree, even while "unlimited".
The preferred android plan can be attached but it will serve no purpose as it's a capped plan as well. Take or leave it... I have no reason to lie to anyone. Sprint is officially the only carrier with a truely unlimited data package.

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We have a Tmobile call center here in wichita... meaning lots of employees... I decided to break a rule of mine and quiz some of my tmo/friends including 2 leads, a retention rep and a supervisor, and all data plans on Tmobile have been capped to some degree, even while "unlimited".
The preferred android plan can be attached but it will serve no purpose as it's a capped plan as well. Take or leave it... I have no reason to lie to anyone. Sprint is officially the only carrier with a truely unlimited data package.
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Keeping in mind that sprint DOES cap their 3g usage at 5gb.
Only their 4g is truly unlimited, which doesn't exist in my area.
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New info on throttling by AT&T

Looks like 3gb cap for 3g and 5gb for LTE
http://www.att.com/esupport/datausage.jsp?source=IZDUel1160000000U
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I'm OK with this cap, I use 2-3gb every month and that's using 2 full batteries a day on my SR for Facebook, XDA, Reddit, and YouTube videos
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So, the big question is
Do we get seperate caps or is it 5GB if we have an LTE device?
I know there are times I am not on LTE(depending on the area) Does the HSPA+ count towards the LTE limit?
Now I never get close to 3GB but still would like to know.

nest75068 said:
So, the big question is
Do we get seperate caps or is it 5GB if we have an LTE device?
I know there are times I am not on LTE(depending on the area) Does the HSPA+ count towards the LTE limit?
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Doesn't seem like it. It just says 4g lte smartphone, so if your not in a LTE area, but have a LTE phone you would have a 5gb cap
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Bummer. I couldn't deal with the throttle any longer so I switched to a tiered plan last month.
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I think for an LTE imei registered smartphone it's 5gb. I can live with this, pretty much like the other carriers. If you don't have an lte, you're more likely going to get one in the future anyways. Now, let's see that data sharing policy in place ;-)
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Finally, and I can live with 5gb. I just wonder now what the throttle speeds are. I wonder if att knew they where going to start getting sued LOL. Also I would like to think when we move to "5G" and such out data limits will increase. I think att knew they couldn't do this so they where super aggressive to make people drop their plans and only the diehards are left. Now that they reached a breaking point they are now being more fair. Yay for that Guy who sued them lol
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When they say they will throttle us LTE users at 5GB, does that mean they are going back to the 2G edge speeds for the rest of the billing cycle, making our phones once again unusable, or is it going to be more of a Verizon type of throttling where it's only if it's during a certain peak-usage time on a congested tower, and even then it's down to 3G speeds?
If it's the latter, I am pleased. 5GB of LTE and then HSPA+ for anything over is fine by me. I must point out that non of the APN bypass things work for me at all anymore, so if after 5GB I'm on HSPA+, well, HSPA+ is still plenty fast for me.
If it's the former, however, then I'll still be just as disappointed. Actually pissed and outraged. Going from 2GB to 5GB to start throttling really is not much of an improvement to me, since if I wanted to, at these insane LTE speeds they are giving me in San Francisco (maxed out around 50Mbs down), I could download 5GB in about 15 minutes on LTE speeds. So hypothetically once my billing cycle reset, if after 15 minutes of heavy LTE usage I was then throttled to EDGE speeds for the rest of the month, I'll be pissed.
So yeah, anyone know? Are they still going to throttle at EDGE speeds for the remainder of the month regardless of peak times/congested towers/etc? If so, then this new 5GB LTE cap is still complete and utter bull****, just like 2GB was. But if it's NOT EDGE speeds, and not necessarily all the time until the next billing cycle, then it's welcomed.

nest75068 said:
So, the big question is
Do we get seperate caps or is it 5GB if we have an LTE device?
I know there are times I am not on LTE(depending on the area) Does the HSPA+ count towards the LTE limit?
Now I never get close to 3GB but still would like to know.
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It is based on you data plan regardless of you are getting LTE is the way I read it. You might travel to an LTE area. If you have a LTE data plan it will be 5GB.

Straight from the web site.
Looks like you will remain throttled for the remainder of the billing cycle.
I understand the throttle speeds are supposed to be more usable and not the 56k modem speed crap they've been doing.
If you have a smartphone that works on our 3G or 4G network and still have an unlimited data plan,
You'll receive a text message when your usage approaches 3GB in one billing cycle.
Each time you use 3GB or more in a billing cycle, your data speeds will be reduced for the rest of that billing cycle and then go back to normal.
The next time you exceed that usage level, your speeds will be reduced without another text message reminder.
If you have a 4G LTE smartphone and still have an unlimited data plan, the same process applies at 5GB of data usage, instead of 3GB.
You'll still be able to use as much data as you want. That won't change. Only your data throughput speed will change if you use 3GB or more in one billing cycle on a 3G or 4G smartphone or 5GB or more on a 4G LTE smartphone.
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Emil9727 said:
Finally, and I can live with 5gb. I just wonder now what the throttle speeds are. I wonder if att knew they where going to start getting sued LOL. Also I would like to think when we move to "5G" and such out data limits will increase. I think att knew they couldn't do this so they where super aggressive to make people drop their plans and only the diehards are left. Now that they reached a breaking point they are now being more fair. Yay for that Guy who sued them lol
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Well the fact that that iPhone user sued over not getting true unlimited and won probably influenced them a bit, not to mention I'm sure they were tired of getting reports from their CSRs of angry customers calling in to ***** about using 2.1 GB and being throttled and threatening to cancel unless they got some perk in response.
I also can live with 5GB. The only time I used excessive data was when I had to stream my SiriusXM all day at work. Now that I figured out how to get a signal with my regular radio I can safely stay below or around 2GB. The fact that I get up to 5GB because I have an LTE phone (although no LTE coverage, boo) and I'm paying $30 instead of $50 AND I just get slow speeds as opposed to $10 charge for going over has me satisfied.

im happy with 5GB.. its not "unlimited" but i think its manageable
the 2GB was BS which is why in my protest i was hitting 80GB a month but my avg is 3.5-4gb so im happy
no more protesting for me =)

rjohnstone said:
Straight from the web site.
Looks like you will remain throttled for the remainder of the billing cycle.
I understand the throttle speeds are supposed to be more usable and not the 56k modem speed crap they've been doing.
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Well what is "more usable"? 3G speeds? Somewhere between EDGE and 3G?

I'm totally satisfied with this, as I never go over 5GB monthly, but I do go over 2GB.
We have won the battle.... but not the war my unlimited data friends. LOLOL
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