I upgraded to an Inspire. I had 3g on my account, so I called ATT to get it changed to 4g. The associate I spoke to said he couldn't give me unlimited 4g, even though I was grandfathered in with 3g unlimited by the resolutions department. Is there any real reason to switch to 4g, if it comes at the cost of having a 2gb usage cap?
Guess it all depends on the rep you get, but I can assure you that its still active. Just did it a couple weeks ago. I would recommend going to an att corporate store, not a vendor. Whatever you do, dont ditch the unlimited. Good luck
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I upgraded to an Inspire. I had 3g on my account, so I called ATT to get it changed to 4g. The associate I spoke to said he couldn't give me unlimited 4g, even though I was grandfathered in with 3g unlimited by the resolutions department. Is there any real reason to switch to 4g, if it comes at the cost of having a 2gb usage cap?
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1. Stick to unlimited 3G
2. Root ur phone and turn ENG S-OFF
3. Install custom ROM and get "H" (AT&T's equivalent of 4G) speeds
I have rooted it.
diablo009 said:
1. Stick to unlimited 3G
2. Root ur phone and turn ENG S-OFF
3. Install custom ROM and get "H" (AT&T's equivalent of 4G) speeds
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I do have an H+ icon in the top right corner of the phone's screen. Someone I know used to do the old imei switcharoo to nonsmartphone data plan, but that doesn't work on Android phones like it did on the tilt2 (according to a good friend of mine.) Does Eng Off have anything to do with that? He said it worked fine on the nonsmartphone plan for a couple of days, and then when he downloaded his first app from the market. *****smacked. Got an mms saying he'd been switched to a suitable smartphone data plan. Misses the tilt2 to the tune of about 30 bucks a month.
volumnus said:
I upgraded to an Inspire. I had 3g on my account, so I called ATT to get it changed to 4g. The associate I spoke to said he couldn't give me unlimited 4g, even though I was grandfathered in with 3g unlimited by the resolutions department. Is there any real reason to switch to 4g, if it comes at the cost of having a 2gb usage cap?
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You might as well get this issue resolved now, because in the future when all the true 4g LTE phones come out, your 3g plan might not get you LTE speeds. Currently a 3g plan is enough to get you "4g" speeds, because AT&T is calling HSPA+ "4g" (my old iPhone 4 is a "3g" phone but I get "4g" HSPA speeds on it). There is no way of knowing if a 3g plan will get you true LTE speeds in the future, and you'll wish you had grandfathered yourself into the unlimited 4G plan now. I would take stickbo's suggestion and go in person to an AT&T store and make them grandfather you into the unlimited 4g plan.
you can keep it if you are grandfathered and have 4g unlimited. i got the text when i got my inspire. called and verified it would remain grandfathered, and it does show unlimited online. i have a premier account, but i doubt it makes a difference
HSPA+ =\= HSPA. Get your account provisioned right, even if you have to call another agent or go to the store to get it done. Remember, carriers can limit which tech you are able to connect to. If you are limited to HSPA only you may never get the max out of this phone, let alone future ones.
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Sorry for my ignorance but AFAIK there is no 4G card and/or plan or special provisioning at ATT at current time.
You (we?) should be good with a "3G" SIM to fetch 4G speeds where they are available (roll-out from ATT is rather slow). 4G LTE IS indeed another story.
Regarding grandfathering in, ATT tried the same thing with me and others to "downgrade" the plan (PDA personal 30 bucks a month unlimited data) to 2GB/month. A single call to ATT solved this problem because they have to grandfather you in if you are willing to pay 30 bucks for unlimited instead of 25 for 2 GB capped. With new plans it's a different story, they will be capped to 2 GB unless you do the iPhone 2G trick (search the forum).
Just my $ 0.02
I am on a medianet plan and my phone says I have hspa+. How can I confirm this? Medianet apns have been working fine but when I called about having unsigned apps activated ota they said my 4G might not work so great. Seems ok although hspa+ not 4g or anywhere near it.
I got unlimited 4g when I got my Inspire 1 month ago. I just called ATT support and they verified that you can get unlimited with 4g anywhere in the US. Talk to another agent. Most of them are stupid. When I got my inspire I was told that I couldnt even get 4g without a new simcard lol.
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I upgraded to an Inspire. I had 3g on my account, so I called ATT to get it changed to 4g. The associate I spoke to said he couldn't give me unlimited 4g, even though I was grandfathered in with 3g unlimited by the resolutions department. Is there any real reason to switch to 4g, if it comes at the cost of having a 2gb usage cap?
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Call them up. Threaten to leave because they wont grandfather you in. I assure you they will. I just switched from a grandfathered unlimited iphone plan that I got grandfathered from a medianet unlimited plan(They grandfathered me from medianet unlimited because i told them the tos doesn't say you have to have unlimited smartphone data to get grandfathered it just says unlimited data. They ended up putting in the unlimited iphone data plan for users that dont have required data plan). I had no issues what so ever if the rep refuses ask to speak with a manager. They can change it.
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I got unlimited 4g when I got my Inspire 1 month ago. I just called ATT support and they verified that you can get unlimited with 4g anywhere in the US. Talk to another agent. Most of them are stupid. When I got my inspire I was told that I couldnt even get 4g without a new simcard lol.
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There is no unlimited 4G as well as there is no true indication of 4G. There is limited or unlimited DATA, period.
Thought this would be clear. The little + doesn't tell you anything beside that you have "at least" a 3G connection and that you're not running on edge!
You either need a good GSM test tool - even this may tell you only UMTS or WCDMA or simply speed test. 3G should be capped at about 3.5 mbps down, 4G/HSPA+ will run between 4 and 8 mbps down, the latter in good areas.
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There is no unlimited 4G as well as there is no true indication of 4G. There is limited or unlimited DATA, period.
Thought this would be clear. The little + doesn't tell you anything beside that you have "at least" a 3G connection and that you're not running on edge!
You either need a good GSM test tool - even this may tell you only UMTS or WCDMA or simply speed test. 3G should be capped at about 3.5 mbps down, 4G/HSPA+ will run between 4 and 8 mbps down, the latter in good areas.
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Your only technically right. Try running your service without the "4g" data plan (your data speeds wont change i know i ran the 3g data plan then switched to the "4g" data plan). Att will constantly txt and email about needing the correct data plan and then change it themselves like they do for the iphone. And you may not get grandfathered over. The op is only asking a question about what he is being told by att and also looking for some advice to keep his unlimited data.
Carlrobling said:
Call them up. Threaten to leave because they wont grandfather you in. I assure you they will. I just switched from a grandfathered unlimited iphone plan that I got grandfathered from a medianet unlimited plan.
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That's similar to how my upgrade worked too. Originally an unlimited MediaNet plan (with an Ericsson clamshell), upgraded into an unlimited 3G plan (AT&T Tilt 1), upgraded again into their unlimited "4G*" plan with the Inspire.
thesuffering said:
you can keep it if you are grandfathered and have 4g unlimited. i got the text when i got my inspire. called and verified it would remain grandfathered, and it does show unlimited online. i have a premier account, but i doubt it makes a difference
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Premier account DOES make a difference. I can get any smartphone (exception of iphone) without the otherwise mandatory data plan. And sometimes when I choose early upgrades I get the price between the regular upgrade and regular early upgrade (e.g., instead of paying 399 for Atrix under early upgrade, I got it for 275).
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Your only technically right. Try running your service without the "4g" data plan (your data speeds wont change i know i ran the 3g data plan then switched to the "4g" data plan). Att will constantly txt and email about needing the correct data plan and then change it themselves like they do for the iphone. And you may not get grandfathered over. The op is only asking a question about what he is being told by att and also looking for some advice to keep his unlimited data.
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I changed phones (Fuze to Inspire and had PDA unlimited since my Tilt/Kaiser), they tried to pull the 2 gig cap stunt on me - complaint - got unlimited. Never got any emails or other notifications that I require a 4G plan (which IMO doesn't exist anyway) and can get up to 8.5 mbps download in good areas - so I must have INDEED 4G 'cuz 3G wont support these speeds.
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I changed phones (Fuze to Inspire and had PDA unlimited since my Tilt/Kaiser), they tried to pull the 2 gig cap stunt on me - complaint - got unlimited. Never got any emails or other notifications that I require a 4G plan (which IMO doesn't exist anyway) and can get up to 8.5 mbps download in good areas - so I must have INDEED 4G 'cuz 3G wont support these speeds.
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I didn't think that the inspire had an lte radio, did I miss something?
As I remember I thought it only had an hspda+ capable of 14. 4 Mb/sec. Am I completely off? Not making a statement truly asking.
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The Inspire "4G" does not have an LTE chipset
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I didn't think that the inspire had an lte radio, did I miss something?
As I remember I thought it only had an hspda+ capable of 14. 4 Mb/sec. Am I completely off? Not making a statement truly asking.
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AT&T speak, if you read carefully, says they are working on providing "4G speed", with essentially some network tricks with 3G technology. That said...I'm happy when I get off my 12 hour shift at 5AM and hit 7.6 down :-=p. Hee hee finally Star Trek (TOS) shyte I grew up watching is possible on my effin phone!
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I changed phones (Fuze to Inspire and had PDA unlimited since my Tilt/Kaiser), they tried to pull the 2 gig cap stunt on me - complaint - got unlimited. Never got any emails or other notifications that I require a 4G plan (which IMO doesn't exist anyway) and can get up to 8.5 mbps download in good areas - so I must have INDEED 4G 'cuz 3G wont support these speeds.
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You keep saying the 4g plan doesn't exist, but it does. It doesn't make a difference in speeds, and it might just be a technicality, but there are separate plans. This is how they are worded in my family account under "manage features" (I've got 1 Inspire and 3 iPhones in my family account):
-SmartPhone Personal (Unlimited) <<this is the grandfathered 4g unlimited plan
-DataPro 2GB for 4G Smartphones
-DataPlus 200MB for 4G Smartphones
iPhone plans have a different name:
Data Plan for iPhone (Unlimited)
DataPro 2 GB for iPhone
DataPlus 200 MB for iPhone
There may come a day when having a 4g plan DOES make a difference in your speeds. That is why I was telling the OP to try to grandfather into the unlimited 4g plan NOW, because these unlimited plans are going the way of the dinosaur. Once you lose that grandfathered connection, it is gone forever.
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I recently purchased an Inspire 4G off of Craigslist, and simply put in my iPhone 4 SIM card. Now - I still have the original $30/month unlimited data plan from my first iPhone 3G.
Tonight I received a text/email combo from AT&T letting me know that I should come in and upgrade my plan to a 4G plan. There was no threat of auto-updating my plan, but both the email and text said I needed to come in.
Has anyone else gotten this email? Will they upgrade/change my plan? Thanks!
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I recently purchased an Inspire 4G off of Craigslist, and simply put in my iPhone 4 SIM card. Now - I still have the original $30/month unlimited data plan from my first iPhone 3G.
Tonight I received a text/email combo from AT&T letting me know that I should come in and upgrade my plan to a 4G plan. There was no threat of auto-updating my plan, but both the email and text said I needed to come in.
Has anyone else gotten this email? Will they upgrade/change my plan? Thanks!
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There is an unlimited "4G" data plan available. You need to find the right rep that knows what they are doing in order to give you the proper unlimited plan for 4G. I had the 3GS with the unlimited data plan and it took a few tries till the got it right to put me under a 4G plan.
Well - I'm not even in a 4G area, so even if I had it - I wouldn't see any better speeds, correct? Also - how much more per month is it?
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Well - I'm not even in a 4G area, so even if I had it - I wouldn't see any better speeds, correct? Also - how much more per month is it?
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There really is no difference in speeds at the moment. As soon as att decides to complete the backhaul you will (hopefully) see a difference. Price is still the same. And stress it enough to them that you don't want to lose your unlimited plan. If they say that you have no other choice, then call back and speak to someone else. I had a few tell me that I will lose it, but i kept calling back and they did it without me losing the unlimited.
If its better for you, go to a corporate store and speak to an english speaking human lol.
I received an email saying that i need to get a 4g/hspa+ plan and looked online at my account, which shows the limited data plans as the 4g/hspa+ and unlimited isn't compatible. It also said i need to upgrade to a 4g/hspa+ sim card, but i am using a iphone 4 micro sim with the adapter to regular sim. My question is, has anyone else got this email and are people getting the 4g/hspa+ speeds without the limited plans? I hope this is just a gimmick to get people to jump plans but i am not going to be a happy camper if this is true, which this so called 4g/hspa+ is only 3g at the end of the day.
Call a rep I had to change from blackberry to 4G and still have unlimited data just call into customer service, they will have to get a manager to verify, and the new sim should come with the phone .
I'm currently on the smartphone unlimited data plan and came from the iphone 4 unlimited plan. The problem is if you look at your account there saying that unlimited plans aren't hspa+ compatible. I did use the sim card the came with my phone, which was just a 3g sim card and then i went back to my micro sim because i like being able to switch phones when i want too. I also went up to the store and the rep told me i need a 4g sim card then went to another store and they told me there is no difference in the sim card. This hole 4g/hspa+ crap is so confusing and miss leading. I love my inspire 4g but att is making my experience and living hell.
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I'm currently on the smartphone unlimited data plan and came from the iphone 4 unlimited plan. The problem is if you look at your account there saying that unlimited plans aren't hspa+ compatible. I did use the sim card the came with my phone, which was just a 3g sim card and then i went back to my micro sim because i like being able to switch phones when i want too. I also went up to the store and the rep told me i need a 4g sim card then went to another store and they told me there is no difference in the sim card. This hole 4g/hspa+ crap is so confusing and miss leading. I love my inspire 4g but att is making my experience and living hell.
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The 4G sim card is for lte they are just trying to make a buck. The hspa+ is 3G+ essentially. If you have unlimited data then your fine. As far as I am aware there is no unlimited 4G data plan because its still running off 3G, the only difference in data plans right now besides the tiered options is blackberry data, pda data, and smartphone data.
If you are worried about it, call customer service and have them switch your plan and make sure you keep unlimited. If they say you can't, hang up and call back until you get some one who will.
Thats what i thought about the sim card but i guess i have to wait to see if i get hspa+ with my phone with the unlimited smartphone plan, as there is no 4g/hspa+ unlimited plan only 2gb and 200mb plans. Not going to downgrade for just faster speeds.
Take mudknot's advice and call AT&T customer care. Tell them you are grandfathered into unlimited data and you want to migrate that feature over to the 4G data plan. You won't see an option for unlimited 4G data on the website because AT&T wants as many users as possible on the new tiered data plans.
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dyne2199 said:
Take mudknot's advice and call AT&T customer care. Tell them you are grandfathered into unlimited data and you want to migrate that feature over to the 4G data plan. You won't see an option for unlimited 4G data on the website because AT&T wants as many users as possible on the new tiered data plans.
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So there is a 4g unlimited? been a long day for me sorry. If so I'll call tomorrow.
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Yes there is a 4g unlimited plan, only for existing unlimited customers. It only will show up online as unlimited smartphone data. The sim card only is for lte which in not the inspire.
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I think the problem is the difference between the iPhone data plan (which utilises visual voicemail) and the android one. Just do what these guys say and call customer assistance and ask them to migrate your unlimited data into an android-capable plan, and they should do so without a hitch.
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I think the problem is the difference between the iPhone data plan (which utilises visual voicemail) and the android one. Just do what these guys say and call customer assistance and ask them to migrate your unlimited data into an android-capable plan, and they should do so without a hitch.
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I do have the smartphone unlimited plan but was making sure there wasn't if there was a 4g unlimited plan now.
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So are we ok on the "smartphone personal" unlimited plan then? They tried to get me to switch too. I was like Hell no lol.
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when i ordered my phone online I had to sign up for the new 2gb data plan.. I used to have the 5gb unlimited plan.. but he computer wouldnt let me leave things be. I know if i wouldve went to best buy i wouldve been able to keep the old plan.. I may call customer support. to see if they can fix it back
they took off my unlimited plan when i switched from my 3gs. but i really dont care, since wifi is where its at. its the only true 4g. (joking btw)
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The 4G sim card is for lte they are just trying to make a buck. The hspa+ is 3G+ essentially. If you have unlimited data then your fine. As far as I am aware there is no unlimited 4G data plan because its still running off 3G, the only difference in data plans right now besides the tiered options is blackberry data, pda data, and smartphone data.
If you are worried about it, call customer service and have them switch your plan and make sure you keep unlimited. If they say you can't, hang up and call back until you get some one who will.
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Yup, Correct and I agree...
I have 5 line family plan ALL with the unlimited data grandfathered plan.
I have an Inspire 4G with the unlimited data +4G. Even if you have it added to your account, your account will still say the same thing (unlimited), but you will get 4G unlimited as well.
My mother got and Infuse yesterday and i was over at her house playing with it with my sim in. after i was done i took my sim out and put it back in my fuze (shudder). this morning just as i was leaving the house for the day i got a text message from AT&T telling me that "An eligible data plan is required for your 4g Smartphone. We have added an appropriate data plan. Learn more at att.com/smartphoneplans."
so i disabled data and when i went into my acct on the web when i got home, sure enough the only data feature options i could choose were the new tiered data plans. i had to put my sim in my old ooooooold tmobile MDA for an hour or so until it updated the imei and then i could go back and choose the unlimited data option.
is this normal? if i upgrade to an infuse will that cancel my grandfather'd status? has anyone else grandfather'd updated and kept their data plan? if so how? and if i upgrade through best buy or amazon at the discounted price will i be allowed to keep it or do i have to go to an att store and pay the full upgrade price?
This has happened to a few people on the forums (lost the unlimited when it switched them to 4g) but it shouldn't. Call 611 or go into a store and they can fix it for you. You can have unlimited 4g with you grandfathered plan its just apparently sometimes putting people back to the 2gb.
I was able to keep my unlimited..
sent from Infuse but miss my captivate on cont. 5.5.... One day this can be as good...
They make it a hassle, but you can keep your unlimited data.
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I got the Inuse at Best Buy and they let me keep my unlimited data without any issues. Before that I had bought the Atrix at Best Buy and had no problems either. The rep just said he was going to switch me to unlimited 4G cause the 4G plan is a bit different.
thanks all of you
the issue that occured is that our at&t systems have different classification data plans.
ie: one for blackberries, one for general smartphones (android/palm/symbian/winmo ect), iphone, and hspa+ devices. the fuse is a general classification smartphone so the message was saying that when you put your sim card in the infuse as it is a hspa+ phone, your data might not work correctly, hence the text message to change your data plan. if you go into a cor store, any rep should be able to continue your grandfathered unlimited status.
No issues here, I still have my unlimited plan...
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If they try to do that, call customer care, let them know you have grandfathered unlimited data, they will file a case to change it back. They "accidentally" did that when they provisioned our sim cards for 4g when my wife and I got our Inspire's...
Hell yeah if they remove it I woukd transfer my four family plan to Sprint, now sprint has the same customer service as verizon up date according to recent survey.
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When you call ATT tell them it's called SmartPhone Personal.
Tell them you want to keep the unlimoted plan. Some reps may say you can't but you Can. Dont ttake no for an answer.
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I'm a Rep with att. Just shoot to a store and do it. We are MORE than happy to switch you to the unlimited HSPA+ PLAN because its more commission for us. I switch it all the time!
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Ok so i duno if im getting the rite plan now. Looked online and im getting Smart unlimited..$30 .. But under that u can choose something with 4g.. Also when i click on smart unlimited this windows pops up. Whats "gold list"
It was no hassle keeping my unlimited plan. She asked and I said I wanted to keep it. Done deal.
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I'm a Rep with att. Just shoot to a store and do it. We are MORE than happy to switch you to the unlimited HSPA+ PLAN because its more commission for us. I switch it all the time!
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It still possible to get an unlimited plan even if you weren't grandfather by iphone or something? I only had the option for 200mb for $15 or the 2gb for $25 and no option for unlimited.
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I'm a Rep with att. Just shoot to a store and do it. We are MORE than happy to switch you to the unlimited HSPA+ PLAN because its more commission for us. I switch it all the time!
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ok, i have a question for you, i'm planing on getting an infuse on upgrade, selling that and getting a gs2. if i go back to the $30 unlimited plan when i upgrade after getting the gs2 would i be able to switch back to the cheaper unrecognized imei data plan that i'm on now?
if YOU don't choose to change to another plan, you stay grandfathered. I am still unlimited. If you choose to go to another plan because its cheaper and later decide to use tons of data, you cant go back. If your plan was automatically changed, let CS know. they have the ability to override and re-authorize unlimited.
If they switch me to the H+ unlimited from regular old unlimited will I be able to still use my sim in my HD2? Thanks!
Also has anyone bought from Amazon. How did you go about keeping your unlimited? Just sign up for one of the available plans and then call and have it switched back?
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I have grandfathered $30 real unlimited on infuse - only thing changed is 4G addition to it. I understand that they need to classify plans somehow but i do not believe that 4G changes anything related to connection speed. I live in Portland,OR area and eventhough ATT coverage is good localy there are still no real 4G speeds. I tried Inspire, Atrix and now Infuse and none of them went over 2.5Mbps download and 0.5Mbps upload -EVER.
All their bogus stories about 4G cards and 4G dataplans are fairytales --- GSM phone needs provisioned (active) SIM Card of any type, proper APN setup, and reciever able to decode given 3G /4G frequency bands. With such combination you can connect to any GSM network (provided roaming is enabled too). So you can switch SIM cards from phone to phone regardless of data plan in their system.
I was landing on PDX airport in 2009 from Frankfurt, had my N95 with Vodafone prepaid SIM in it and as soon as I turned it on, it autoconfigured and locked to Tmobile 3G network as I still had some money on it to use data and calls. I was also using one ATT SIM card with same data plan (switching to and from ) Iphone3Gs, HTC Touch Pro2, Nokia N97 and unlocked Motorola Defy. Never had single issue...
On the other hand, after being AT&T, Cingular, at&t customer for 10+ years, I am starting to wonder is their service generally worth the money I pay every month.
My bill is for 4 phones;
unlimited family text,
1400min,
real unlimited data plan for Infuse,
real unlimited data plan for Iphone,
2 unlimited data for non smartphones for kids ($10 each)
Total: ~$220 every month....
I was recently looking into Virgin Mobile plans and they give $40 unlimited calls, messages and data. For $25 you get unlimited calls, messages and 20 megs of data (for kids...and my kids use barely any data)
Now that would cut my phone bill about ~$100/month ($1200/year)
Problem is that my dear wife would let go of the Iphone only from her dead cold hands...and she is using it like it is Apache server ~ 10Gig/month
I know I am going off topic but regardless grandfathered or not, my data plan on ATT costs only $10 less then all unlimited package on Virgin mobile.
I am aware that they do not have fancy phones as ATT but honestly ATT does not have a near selection of good phones as Verizon or T-mobile...and lesser data speeds too.
Now I wanted some opinions on my thoughts to switch carriers (and just to let you know I never used anything but GSM since i got my first cell phone in 1993 in Hamburg Germany where I am originally from)
So I got my infuse yesterday and I love it. I have a unlimited data plan from my iPhone. I haven't actually had an iPhone since the 4 came out last summer. I had a desire z and then a desire HD. I had no issues with them and my data plan once the apn had been set.
Since those phones are not '4g' I wasn't bothered by att. Now that I'm on the infuse and it uses 4g, I got a text a few hours after using it saying I need a 4g plan. I'm not willing to give up my unlimited data for a restricted 4g plan. Even if I don't need that much data. So do I have any alternatives?
Thanks in advance
I didn't want to make a new thread, but after using my infuse for an hour non stop with wifi on and browsing the web, my battery temp is 41c. And the battery drained from 100 to 65. That seems extremely hot to me...
@eatjello
Same exact thing I'm having, so hot, and charging is so slow I'm hating this phone a little, and continuous use last me just 4hrs wifi turned off and gps off. Charging takes 4 hrs +
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I didn't want to make a new thread, but after using my infuse for an hour non stop with wifi on and browsing the web, my battery temp is 41c. And the battery drained from 100 to 65. That seems extremely hot to me...
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I had the same issue, go and trade the phone. Either the battery of the phone is bad.
Someone suggested to turn airplane mode on and back off and it might fix it (dont know how).
Also you do not need to loose your unlimited. There's no 4G plan, best buy did the calling but there's a unlimited plan for the infuse, it's called SmartPhone Personal.
Here's a text from ATT on how to get it.
Data Plan for SmartPhones. Unlimited domestic data usage. Only available for upgrades. Requires customers to be on a "Gold List" SmartPhone Plan prior to upgrade to 4G device.
I get the same messages in my email & text from AT&T. I also have the iPhone unlimited data plan. I wonder if not having the right plan doesn't allow me to utilize the full speed of hspa+. I get like 3mbps down & 1.26mbps up. I'm also using my iPhone 4 microsim in my Infuse.
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I had the same issue, go and trade the phone. Either the battery of the phone is bad.
Someone suggested to turn airplane mode on and back off and it might fix it (dont know how).
Also you do not need to loose your unlimited. There's no 4G plan, best buy did the calling but there's a unlimited plan for the infuse, it's called SmartPhone Personal.
Here's a text from ATT on how to get it.
Data Plan for SmartPhones. Unlimited domestic data usage. Only available for upgrades. Requires customers to be on a "Gold List" SmartPhone Plan prior to upgrade to 4G device.
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If i bought this phone off of someone else who bought it from ATT, can i still trade it in for a new one?
I'm a Rep with at&t and you don't have to give up that unlimited plan. We still have the ability to grandfather even the 4G plan. Trust me...I deal with poor customers all day who receive invalid info from dumbass reps who can't read outside our training manuals. Call our CARE and tell them you need to switch your data plan to HSPA+ unlimited. Even if it means calling back ten times, don't stop until you get it!
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bullet358 said:
I'm a Rep with at&t and you don't have to give up that unlimited plan. We still have the ability to grandfather even the 4G plan. Trust me...I deal with poor customers all day who receive invalid info from dumbass reps who can't read outside our training manuals. Call our CARE and tell them you need to switch your data plan to HSPA+ unlimited. Even if it means calling back ten times, don't stop until you get it!
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i can confirm this is true. i just did what bullet told me to, i'm now on the 4G plan with unlimited data still. It's still annoying having a micro sim. but i guess it means i can go to the new iphone if i decide to
now to address the heat issue...
bullet358 said:
I'm a Rep with at&t and you don't have to give up that unlimited plan. We still have the ability to grandfather even the 4G plan. Trust me...I deal with poor customers all day who receive invalid info from dumbass reps who can't read outside our training manuals. Call our CARE and tell them you need to switch your data plan to HSPA+ unlimited. Even if it means calling back ten times, don't stop until you get it!
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Do you have to sign a new contract to change your data plan like that?
sidepocket said:
Do you have to sign a new contract to change your data plan like that?
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no you do not
just call in and tell them you have a new phoen and that you need to get switched over to your new data plan Smartphone personal 4G.
idk if there is a difference but the lady who did my change told me that since it was a 4G phone they give us a plan that has the advantage to access 4G when available idk if thats true but thats what i was told
eatjello said:
So I got my infuse yesterday and I love it. I have a unlimited data plan from my iPhone. I haven't actually had an iPhone since the 4 came out last summer. I had a desire z and then a desire HD. I had no issues with them and my data plan once the apn had been set.
Since those phones are not '4g' I wasn't bothered by att. Now that I'm on the infuse and it uses 4g, I got a text a few hours after using it saying I need a 4g plan. I'm not willing to give up my unlimited data for a restricted 4g plan. Even if I don't need that much data. So do I have any alternatives?
Thanks in advance
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You just have to call cs, it is free unlimited data plan for 4g phones, i was offered the same with my inspire and i am presently on it.
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Free unlimited data? Not sure what you mean by that. If you already had a data plan, it was free to switch it over to the unlimited 4G. but you can't get the data free.
I had my unlimited iphone grandfathered over to the 4G unlimited data. but my "4G" speeds suck. they barely hit 2mps. no faster than my 3G plan was.
I have an HTC Inspire and I have the 2gb plan from AT&T. It seems like every month I go over my data limit when most of the time I either don't have signal or I run my task killer to shut down background data. I live in the country so there's no WiFi that I could ease my usage. I've gotta do something to get unlimited data. I have 2 questions:
1. Will AT&T ever come out with a 4G unlimited data plan? (like maybe after the T-mobile merge)
And 2. Is there any way I can use a loophole to get unlimited data?
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Why yes, yes there is.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036871
Come join the club of those who got the unlimited data plan that ATT "no longer sells."
They can have my unlimited data when they pry it fromy cold, dead hands.
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The goofy thing is that my mother and brother have unlimited on their iPhones and barely use it :/
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They can have my unlimited data when they pry it fromy cold, dead hands.
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1. I doubt they will ever create an brand new official marketed truly unlimited data plan for new or existing customers.
2. I actually bought the truly unlimited data plan back when it existed like 5 years ago, and have never let go of it since, so I'm happily grandfathered in. When I changed from my last 3G phone and switched to the Inspire 4G, they "upgraded" my unlimited 3G data plan to 4G unlimited data plan, same price. So for $40 I get truly unlimited no data cap 4G data and unlimited texts. Oh except it's more like $35 a month for that after my Premier discount. I'm never changing my plan again. I'm keeping my unlimited data. Unless of course they offer to upgrade my 4G unlimited to 5G unlimited in a few years time
EDIT: Oh and I never have an Iphone at any point, ever, nor claimed/told ATT that I had one. All WinMo all the time until this Inspire, with hassle free unlimited the entire time.
Didn't the loophole close at the end of April? I was gonna try it with an iPhone 2g but they said something about iTunes agreement changing to close it up or something like that
Can anybody confirm that trick still working?
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dnaramore40 said:
I have an HTC Inspire and I have the 2gb plan from AT&T. It seems like every month I go over my data limit when most of the time I either don't have signal or I run my task killer to shut down background data. I live in the country so there's no WiFi that I could ease my usage. I've gotta do something to get unlimited data. I have 2 questions:
1. Will AT&T ever come out with a 4G unlimited data plan? (like maybe after the T-mobile merge)
And 2. Is there any way I can use a loophole to get unlimited data?
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1. There is/was... you had to be grandfathered in on an unlimited 3G plan to get unlimited 4G data which basically is nothing special. just uses the same "phone" apn that the iphone data plan uses instead of wap.cingular. The 4G unlimited data plan code is: HSDPPB but good luck getting it added if you don't have unlimited data already.
2. there is the itunes/iphone 2g trick which does work for some people if you start with a new fresh itunes account. i hear if the phone isnt kept active for a month or two they can go and change it manually to a 2gb plan if you switch to a different phone immediately... could be wrong but this is what i have heard.
Can you not set up a wifi router in your home to ease your usage load some?
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AEDan1977 said:
1. There is/was... you had to be grandfathered in on an unlimited 3G plan to get unlimited 4G data which basically is nothing special. just uses the same "phone" apn that the iphone data plan uses instead of wap.cingular. The 4G unlimited data plan code is: HSDPPB but good luck getting it added if you don't have unlimited data already.
2. there is the itunes/iphone 2g trick which does work for some people if you start with a new fresh itunes account. i hear if the phone isnt kept active for a month or two they can go and change it manually to a 2gb plan if you switch to a different phone immediately... could be wrong but this is what i have heard.
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If you had an Unlimited 2g plan, then you can go to a 3 or 4g smartphone and keep your unlimited data plan with no drama at all....well until August 31st when 2g customers get cancelled.
If you didnt have a 2G unlimited smartphone plan, youre screwed. Buy a router.
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If you had an Unlimited 2g plan, then you can go to a 3 or 4g smartphone and keep your unlimited data plan with no drama at all....well until August 31st when 2g customers get cancelled.
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Could you provide some more information on this? I searched for cancelled AT&T 2g with no luck
audiophan said:
Could you provide some more information on this? I searched for cancelled AT&T 2g with no luck
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I dont know if any info is available on the net.
It may only apply to people who were signed up before the Cingular buyout.
[/QUOTE] If you didnt have a 2G unlimited smartphone plan, youre screwed. Buy a router.[/QUOTE]
That's another problem, I have dial up at the house so I can't use a wireless router to ease the usage. I'm pretty well s.o.l. on that part
Get your hands on a 1st gen iPhail, hard reset it, put your sim in, sync to iTunes, purchase $20 unlimited data package, wait till your acct show that as your device and plan, go to att store and tell them you'd like to have your unlimited data grandfathered to your Inspire, they'll change it while you wait(about a 5minute process), leave store smiling.
Enjoy unlimited data.
This is what I did and now no more worries of going over. In fact, I was consuming 4-5 gigs a month prior but most was on wifi wherever it was available.
I have unlimited data right now.